Bro my thoughts. Bro next match Dran Buster 🆚 wise Tiger Battle bro please Bro ⚔️.bro CoBlet Drek attack the weis tiger jump the wies tiger But very cool match bro full support zankey bro.🤠💥
nah lol, the blade is bad doesn't matter the bit/ratchet in this case it is low tier we already tried and tested being OK in AVA doesn't boost it that high when it is terrible vs rod
@@zankye tested it a lot and it performed pretty decent against Rod in my experience. Is most definitely capable of KOing Rod on ball or bursting it like 40% of the time in my experience and if you watch other ppl testing it seems to be around the same range (tho obviously it’s not as good as the traditional counterpicks like Buster, Shark, or Tyranno but can still hold its own compare to other mid tiers that insta lose vs Rod). I think if being generous it’s in A tier since it can go positive or even against other A tiers like scythe, dagger, unicorn, etc and it consistently beats out stuff lower than A. If being a bit more pessimistic I still don’t see it being lower than B. There’s no way stuff like Hammer is better than it. Curious why you think the blade isn’t good? It’s got super solid weight (sits in the upper half out of the entire roster weight wise), nice mid power recoil that works very nicely for counter attack, and it’s very balanced when spinning. The only thing is it’s a bit top heavy so it can have some stamina issues as a result depending on the combo especially. It’s not top tier but yeah I think it’s quite good tho tbh surprised you place it in low tier
So thank you for your reply! To go over: 1. I tested with Dan and my mom for 2P we did not see anything good out of it. 2. Anytime I speak on tiering it means I recorded and in that hour or so of testings that is how I got to my personal conclusions. 3. Obviously word is not law just personal opinion I have somethings higher than JP players and other things lower just based on feeling of the meta. 4. My tier list is based on TWO factors, POWER LEVEL and CONSISTENCY which is in combination to ease of use being skill level required in Beyblade X . Power level is how strong across the rest of them and consistency in performance and skill use is the average blader trying to use it. For an example High Needle is solid for general defense use but I put it in C Tier because of the high skill ceiling required to be able to make it work consistently. I put Driger S in D Tier even though it can hit very hard the skill required to make it perform top tier is high and it is pretty weak against most competition. I am constantly trying to rework the tier list, which is personally why I don't like to do it until the end of the Season, with the exception of Hasbro BEYBLADE X, which will be updated per wave because people hyper fixate on rankings generally, so it is hard to explain every time in a tweet. "tested it a lot and it performed pretty decent against Rod in my experience. Is most definitely capable of KOing Rod on ball or bursting it like 40% of the time in my experience and if you watch other ppl testing it seems to be around the same range (tho obviously it’s not as good as the traditional counterpicks like Buster, Shark, or Tyranno but can still hold its own compare to other mid tiers that insta lose vs Rod)." Capable and consistently overall are not the same thing; it is possible for it to KO, but on average, how much can it do it. If it cannot do the same as Shark or the other blades that already diminishes big use for it at all. "I think if being generous it’s in A tier since it can go positive or even against other A tiers like scythe, dagger, unicorn, etc and it consistently beats out stuff lower than A. If being a bit more pessimistic I still don’t see it being lower than B. There’s no way stuff like Hammer is better than it. Curious why you think the blade isn’t good? " Be mindful, like I said, I do not update my tiers too frequently, and things can change over a period of time. I'm pretty sure I still have to shift a lot of things around just to compensate for meta right now. You can have 4 factors > Does it beat the options above it? / How consistently can it do so? > How consistently across the options is it to be used? > What is the skill use required? > What is the power level? "It’s got super solid weight (sits in the upper half out of the entire roster weight wise), nice mid power recoil that works very nicely for counter attack, and it’s very balanced when spinning. The only thing is it’s a bit top heavy so it can have some stamina issues as a result depending on the combo especially. It’s not top tier but yeah I think it’s quite good tho tbh surprised you place it in low tier" Be aware that this weight is TWO factors, the weight itself and WEIGHT DISTRIBUTION, which is how the metal is placed, the shape of the blade those are all factors. I simply feel it gets rag-dolled too much in AVA, it cannot be consistent, there will eventually be the testing video released but be mindful of this, my testings are not law and my opinion is not the "right" one, it is all subjective. I do testings, Dan, Fabel, Shindog, Nizuma, etc..... so we all reach different conclusions, there are a lot of factors that go into bey stuff like sometimes specific people can just make things work more than others. So I took the time to type this out of respect for your comment. Did take me like a few mins to type lol
@@zankye Ahh appreciate the reply! Understand your thought process more now and what criteria you use for tierlists. Ofc every blader has their own preferences and skills when it comes to launch strategies and power, ability, etc, so I can understand not believing in Tiger as much from your initial testing (stock has a lot of problems) since everyone’s experience will be different. My main point is, while I don’t think Tiger is meta changing, I think a low tier placement is very pessimistic. You’re right that if it can’t counter Rod as well as the ones I mentioned it won’t be used, which is totally a fair point about the actual competitive meta, but I was talking about where it should be placed in the grand scheme of things, which is why I think its still worth mentioning that it can perform well against Rod since if it can have a 40-50% WR by KO/Burst and the occasional spin finish, that’s still miles ahead of many of the mid/low tier blades that have like 10% WRs for example. It arguably goes even or positive against all the A tiers, so I think that should warrant a placement amongst them since it doesn’t make sense that a blade that can hang with stuff like scythe and unicorn should be placed in low tier with like the Shinobis. Like there’s no way that this blade is at Rhino or Shinobi levels. Put it on point and it does extremely well against a lot of stuff. But yeah I appreciate the response! Opinions will always be subjective when it comes to how different ppl test and compete and their preferences. That’s the beauty of the game and am just happy to have a pretty thriving community to discuss meta and explore with. Cheers brotha no bad vibes, was insightful to get your take on things!
Weiss I have in B-Tier I do not believe it is consistent enough for its performance to warrant being higher. "It arguably goes even or positive against all the A tiers, so I think that should warrant a placement amongst them since it doesn’t make sense that a blade that can hang with stuff like scythe and unicorn should be placed in low tier with like the Shinobis. Like there’s no way that this blade is at Rhino or Shinobi levels. Put it on point and it does extremely well against a lot of stuff." As said before be mindful that I do not like tiering because a lot of the times I have to constantly rework the entire tiring and some things might have to get bogged down and not completely accurate in the meta right now, so I'd have to know in the grand scheme of things how certain things are. I think Weiss is just average like does not do anything exceptionally well or bad, but the skill use required I feel the ceiling is a bit higher, that is a big factor in how I tier stuff. I will prob re work a better updated tier list some time eventually, it takes very long to make thoughts like properly concise on things like this because there are a lot of factors. Maybe my mind gets changed and any pre bias gets changed on perception
That Drake has been through some tough stuff.
used heavily
the amount of self KOs was insane lmao
i couldn't tech it
Bro my thoughts. Bro next match Dran Buster 🆚 wise Tiger Battle bro please Bro ⚔️.bro CoBlet Drek attack the weis tiger jump the wies tiger But very cool match bro full support zankey bro.🤠💥
That’s crazy how you almost reverse swept her
Drake wins for now
This vid made me remember just how light Weiss Tiger is.
it is very
Blink and You miss it... Weiss Tiger being Thanos'd by Cobalt Drake
The Tiger vs. the Dragon
2:22
Weiss pulls off a main character move to resist bit bursting
We got Dragoon vs Driger up here
Two minutes ago is CRAZYYY!!! 🙏
yes
I do recall that Cobalt Drake was originally named Cobalt Dragoon from Takara's announcement.
Made up
Cobalt Dragoon is the left spin evolution of Cobalt Drake coming out next month
Stock Tiger just not that good unfortunately cause of the stamina and self KO, but it goes crazy on 5-60/9-60 Point
nah lol, the blade is bad doesn't matter the bit/ratchet in this case it is low tier we already tried and tested being OK in AVA doesn't boost it that high when it is terrible vs rod
@@zankye tested it a lot and it performed pretty decent against Rod in my experience. Is most definitely capable of KOing Rod on ball or bursting it like 40% of the time in my experience and if you watch other ppl testing it seems to be around the same range (tho obviously it’s not as good as the traditional counterpicks like Buster, Shark, or Tyranno but can still hold its own compare to other mid tiers that insta lose vs Rod).
I think if being generous it’s in A tier since it can go positive or even against other A tiers like scythe, dagger, unicorn, etc and it consistently beats out stuff lower than A. If being a bit more pessimistic I still don’t see it being lower than B. There’s no way stuff like Hammer is better than it. Curious why you think the blade isn’t good?
It’s got super solid weight (sits in the upper half out of the entire roster weight wise), nice mid power recoil that works very nicely for counter attack, and it’s very balanced when spinning. The only thing is it’s a bit top heavy so it can have some stamina issues as a result depending on the combo especially. It’s not top tier but yeah I think it’s quite good tho tbh surprised you place it in low tier
So thank you for your reply! To go over:
1. I tested with Dan and my mom for 2P we did not see anything good out of it.
2. Anytime I speak on tiering it means I recorded and in that hour or so of testings that is how I got to my personal conclusions.
3. Obviously word is not law just personal opinion I have somethings higher than JP players and other things lower just based on feeling of the meta.
4. My tier list is based on TWO factors, POWER LEVEL and CONSISTENCY which is in combination to ease of use being skill level required in Beyblade X . Power level is how strong across the rest of them and consistency in performance and skill use is the average blader trying to use it.
For an example High Needle is solid for general defense use but I put it in C Tier because of the high skill ceiling required to be able to make it work consistently.
I put Driger S in D Tier even though it can hit very hard the skill required to make it perform top tier is high and it is pretty weak against most competition.
I am constantly trying to rework the tier list, which is personally why I don't like to do it until the end of the Season, with the exception of Hasbro BEYBLADE X, which will be updated per wave because people hyper fixate on rankings generally, so it is hard to explain every time in a tweet.
"tested it a lot and it performed pretty decent against Rod in my experience. Is most definitely capable of KOing Rod on ball or bursting it like 40% of the time in my experience and if you watch other ppl testing it seems to be around the same range (tho obviously it’s not as good as the traditional counterpicks like Buster, Shark, or Tyranno but can still hold its own compare to other mid tiers that insta lose vs Rod)."
Capable and consistently overall are not the same thing; it is possible for it to KO, but on average, how much can it do it. If it cannot do the same as Shark or the other blades that already diminishes big use for it at all.
"I think if being generous it’s in A tier since it can go positive or even against other A tiers like scythe, dagger, unicorn, etc and it consistently beats out stuff lower than A. If being a bit more pessimistic I still don’t see it being lower than B. There’s no way stuff like Hammer is better than it. Curious why you think the blade isn’t good? "
Be mindful, like I said, I do not update my tiers too frequently, and things can change over a period of time. I'm pretty sure I still have to shift a lot of things around just to compensate for meta right now.
You can have 4 factors
> Does it beat the options above it? / How consistently can it do so?
> How consistently across the options is it to be used?
> What is the skill use required?
> What is the power level?
"It’s got super solid weight (sits in the upper half out of the entire roster weight wise), nice mid power recoil that works very nicely for counter attack, and it’s very balanced when spinning. The only thing is it’s a bit top heavy so it can have some stamina issues as a result depending on the combo especially. It’s not top tier but yeah I think it’s quite good tho tbh surprised you place it in low tier"
Be aware that this weight is TWO factors, the weight itself and WEIGHT DISTRIBUTION, which is how the metal is placed, the shape of the blade those are all factors.
I simply feel it gets rag-dolled too much in AVA, it cannot be consistent, there will eventually be the testing video released but be mindful of this, my testings are not law and my opinion is not the "right" one, it is all subjective.
I do testings, Dan, Fabel, Shindog, Nizuma, etc..... so we all reach different conclusions, there are a lot of factors that go into bey stuff like sometimes specific people can just make things work more than others.
So I took the time to type this out of respect for your comment.
Did take me like a few mins to type lol
@@zankye Ahh appreciate the reply! Understand your thought process more now and what criteria you use for tierlists.
Ofc every blader has their own preferences and skills when it comes to launch strategies and power, ability, etc, so I can understand not believing in Tiger as much from your initial testing (stock has a lot of problems) since everyone’s experience will be different.
My main point is, while I don’t think Tiger is meta changing, I think a low tier placement is very pessimistic. You’re right that if it can’t counter Rod as well as the ones I mentioned it won’t be used, which is totally a fair point about the actual competitive meta, but I was talking about where it should be placed in the grand scheme of things, which is why I think its still worth mentioning that it can perform well against Rod since if it can have a 40-50% WR by KO/Burst and the occasional spin finish, that’s still miles ahead of many of the mid/low tier blades that have like 10% WRs for example. It arguably goes even or positive against all the A tiers, so I think that should warrant a placement amongst them since it doesn’t make sense that a blade that can hang with stuff like scythe and unicorn should be placed in low tier with like the Shinobis. Like there’s no way that this blade is at Rhino or Shinobi levels. Put it on point and it does extremely well against a lot of stuff.
But yeah I appreciate the response! Opinions will always be subjective when it comes to how different ppl test and compete and their preferences. That’s the beauty of the game and am just happy to have a pretty thriving community to discuss meta and explore with. Cheers brotha no bad vibes, was insightful to get your take on things!
Weiss I have in B-Tier I do not believe it is consistent enough for its performance to warrant being higher.
"It arguably goes even or positive against all the A tiers, so I think that should warrant a placement amongst them since it doesn’t make sense that a blade that can hang with stuff like scythe and unicorn should be placed in low tier with like the Shinobis. Like there’s no way that this blade is at Rhino or Shinobi levels. Put it on point and it does extremely well against a lot of stuff."
As said before be mindful that I do not like tiering because a lot of the times I have to constantly rework the entire tiring and some things might have to get bogged down and not completely accurate in the meta right now, so I'd have to know in the grand scheme of things how certain things are.
I think Weiss is just average like does not do anything exceptionally well or bad, but the skill use required I feel the ceiling is a bit higher, that is a big factor in how I tier stuff.
I will prob re work a better updated tier list some time eventually, it takes very long to make thoughts like properly concise on things like this because there are a lot of factors.
Maybe my mind gets changed and any pre bias gets changed on perception
0:14 KAMEN Z!!!!???
Why do i hear a cat meow at 3:30?
Weiss: *See ya chump*