*PLEASE READ THIS COMMENT BEFORE MAKING ONE YOURSELF- IT CONTAINS CONTEXT YOU MAY WANT TO KNOW* OK so to avoid anymore confusions- I will only be making vids on characters *IN* Star Wars. That is to say they aren't exclusive to comics (I also won't include points of pain that has occurred in comics) and have been confirmed canon (i.e. no legends). Thank you for your suggestions but unfortunately I do prefer to stick to the universe the character is in, as to make every character we compare much more comparable as they could experience the same thing. ALSO: BE SURE to check out the poll I just put up on my channel- This time YOU get to decide who I'll do for the next entry in this series! Edit 1: PLEASE just check the description for the link to the playlist of this series. I've already had five people make suggestions of characters I've already done at this time. Edit 2: I'm very thankful this has surpassed the first episode of this series in views- that episode was garbage. Edit 3: I've been told that the actual birth is more painful than pregnancy, which I put as "Considered maximum human endurance". I meant for the pregnancy point to include the birth, but also put the birth as a separate point because it really is enough on its own. It's my fault I didn't make that clear so MB. (No more edits from now on lol)
Unfortunately I don't do characters from outside the same universe (Or galaxy for Star Wars) as the "name a character". That way every point made is more comparable. I stated that in the pinned comment. @@Demoli1584
@@OodldoodlNoodlesocks I think the main premise of this meme is that Rey doesn't suffer or develop enough as a person to be considered a good protagonist. I mean look at Luke, once immature, impatient, hot-headed. Then we see MULTIPLE scenes of him training and failing, loses his mentor, foster parents and hand, and learns the truth of his father.
I think the saddest thing is that Padme died not knowing if Anakin was redeemed and her last memory of him was nearly killing her and himself (figuratively) in the process
“This was her Lego clone wars minifigure” I know the Lego clone wars minifigures had a reputation for looking awful but the Padme one has got to be one of the biggest crimes of the century 💀
Padme. The “strong independent woman” trope, but done right. Modern Disney characters: the opposite Edit: I learned the term for the bad kind. “Mary Sue.”
Strong? She’s weak as shit And independent? She relies on Anakin practically every time she gets into something The only “strong independent woman” we’ve seen is Ahsoka and even then she’s not THAT strong compared to many male characters But ay keep dick riding George Lucas when he honestly ain’t allat
shes not a strong independent woman trope, nor is she "independent. she was just made by people that understand strength does not mean masculinity, and you dont have to make your women more masculine to make them strong. people are strong in different ways, and its alright to rely on others even if you are strong.
I was gonna argue and ask "Pain? What kind of pain could she have possibly goen through?" And then I actually watched the video. Yeah, that's quite the list of pain to go through.
@@WafflzAndSyrup Wouldn't be worth it to edit all 15 seconds of footage. She lost her boyfriend who she spent a year of her life trying to kill, watched an old dude that she new for like an hour die in front of her, and thought she killed chewie for all of an hour. That's the most pain she suffered.
Yoda, lived for nearly 1000 years tending to the Jedi this entire time, spent the last 20 ish years of his life coming to term with the fact that his entire lifework and familly got slayed because of his own arrogance and inaction
A character who went through more pain: Luke. Every single achievement of his was suddenly retconned so that Rey could be the one who ACTUALLY achieved them. Luke defeated the Empire? No he didn't, there's a massive remnant big enough to create super weapons and threaten the entire Galaxy, but don't worry, Rey beats them and ACTUALLY brings Peace to the Galaxy. Luke defeated the Emperor? No he didn't, he was actually still alive and it was all part of this big plan, but don't worry, Rey beats him and ACTUALLY brings an end to the Sith. Luke reformed the Jedi Order from the ground up? No he didn't, all that crumbled away because of his failings of being a man, but don't worry, Rey is going to ACTUALLY reform the Jedi Order from the ground up.
@@blade7y156 I would like you to use stronger language to describe that f***ing trainwreck of a movie. My only request is it's not used in my comment section.
Not gonna defend that steaming pile of crap that is Rey but Luke in the EU did not defeat the Empire either because remnants are also a thing there but how the war ends actually makes sense. Palpatine did also return in Legends but that atleast had way better wrting than "Somehow Palpatine returned" but Luke did manage to beat him that time. Luke's Jedi Order in the EU and I'll assume that the EU will still have better writing than Rey's Jedi order.
I'd have said Obi-Wan. If you think about it. Obi-Wan was taken by the Jedi as a small child (Never knew his family), Has to leave behind his lover (Satine), Watches his Master die, has to put up with Anakin for 13 years, watches Dooku (probably someone Qui-Gon spoke with praise about) turn evil, he then has to fight a major war for 3 years where he's taken hostage multiple times, has to fake his own death, watch his rival kill his lover, nearly causes the death of Ahsoka, watches Anakin turn evil as he and Palpatine basically destroy everything Obi-Wan has ever known (The Jedi & Republic), Has to hide Anakin's secret marriage and then watch it fall apart (and even is blamed for it by Anakin), has to fight Anakin and then watch him burn knowing he did that, Then watches Padme die, spends 19 years as a fugitive, gets blamed by Owen for Anakin's "Death" & refused to train luke, Doesn't know that Ahsoka survived Order 66, Gets PTSD from the collapse of the Jedi, Gets Burned beaten up and buried alive by Vader when rescuing Anakin's daughter, has to kill his rival (Again), then dies, then has to try and make sure Luke remains on the right path to bring balance to the force.
Rey, let's see. She... had a lonely childhood scavenging for parts after her parents sold her off, and she lost her mentor. Aside from those two things every bit of hardship she goes through is immediately turned into a win. Get's kidnapped by Kylo Ren - Easily escapes within hours then beats him in a duel. Get's tortured by Snoke - Snoke dies five minutes later Even her whole Palpatine identity crisis was done within a few days. Her backstory aside, Rey's story amounts to a few bad weekends. Character's like Obi Wan have had to sit with the weight of their failure in exile for 19 years.
@@gameoverinsertcointocontin8102 Was talking more about Leia. I mean they have basically no screen time together, but we were told she spent two years teaching her which is supposed to be enough for us to feel something right?
@@bucketboi1724 I googled it. It's actually one year. Which is still kind of ridiculous, but at least a little less unbelievable than Rey becoming a match for Darth Sidious with only a month of training under her belt.
For the life of me I'm really struggling to remember what suffering Rey went through in the movies. Everything bad that happens to her other than her origin is resolved like fifteen minutes later in every movie.
Obi Wan went through a lot of pain too. He watched his master and father figure die in front of him. He had to become a mentor for Anakin when he’d just lost his own. He found out the dude they thought was helping them for years was the Sith they’d been looking for ages. Order 66 wiped out a lot of his fellow Jedi. His best friend and “brother” turned to the Dark Side and he had to feel responsible. His best friend’s wife died in front of him hours after watching his best friend turn. He had to watch his best friend’s son grow up and be reminded of him for years. He lived in solitude for years.
rey is the only character that got the easiest way, she didn't go through pain, it's just a slight ouch moment, so no wonder none likes her, she didn't do crap.
If you've the sanity and patience to do so, please let me know one thing Rey struggled with, and it took real training to overcame (Not a 30 second scene of her trying and failing)
@@WafflzAndSyrup i imagine it was quite easy to find something more difficult than what she faced, literally just had a few tiny scratches, while others have died or experienced death of their closest ally or even recieved deep scars (literally anything beats rey)
Obi Wan is actually a master of the low ground. When he was fighting Darth Maul, he defeated him by jumping up from below him and slicing him in half. When he fights Anakin, he only slices Anakin until he's already above him. "Jesse, what the hell are you talking about?"
I swear Kylo was really the only “good” character, Finn and Poe were okay in the first movie but Ben was the only one who actually experienced some kind of “heroes journey”
I low key feel sorry for Kylo. Not because of his "Tragic" backstory, but because none of the writers could decide on WTF to do with him. We've ALREADY HAD A REDEMPTION ARC thanks, give is something NEW.
Yeah, you notice his change when u watch the 2 fights he had with rey. In the first one he goes all attacking and having a short temper. In the second fight he first begins to just dodge her attacks because he’s become a little patient. He isn’t yelling all the time and is behaving like the leader of the first order he is.
Except for that he worshiped Darth Vader and asked him to show him the dark side even though Anakin literally left the dark side and “killed” (😭) Emperor Palpatine
@@Mistarpotato ultimately I'd say Rey. Daisy took the contract but it was the writers who shaped Rey. Actord are there for acting and writers are there for writing IG.
Bro, Anakin has gone through way more pain than anyone else. Imagine: being a slave, have to hide his romance, not granted the rank of Master, his padawan was framed for a bombing, his padawan left him, f*cking fooled by Palpatine, burnt to crisp, hands and legs cut off, and, damn bro I can’t even mention everything
Legends Grievous. Had his planet invaded, and once he had the invaders on the run his planet was hit with sanctions from the Republic, causing famine for his people. His partner was killed at the hands of the invaders he was fighting, and her body was washed out to sea, so he couldn’t even bury her. And finally, the comrades closest to him were killed in a crash that was orchestrated by Dooku to frame the Republic, where they added artificial injuries to him to further persuade him, and rebuilding him completely into a foreign body. It’s funny that not a whole lot of Star Wars fans know that Grievous is named, not only for what he causes, but for what he feels.
@@WafflzAndSyrup my bad, didn't know it came off as rude. I'm sorry too, but I just think it's important to consider those versions of the character, as that is how they were intended when they were created. nothing wrong with what you're doing, plus canon Grievous still far outstrips Rey in this aspect. I mean the point of your video is that basically every SW character has endured more than Rey lmao
This is something I like to call 'The Spider-Man Principle where the more pain and suffering a character endures, the better they are. (I only call it 'The Spider-Man Principle' since he's basically the mascot for this).
I'm still convinced(95% sure) that tweet that started all of these top tier memes was just trolling and knew that stance was going to be the easiest way to trigger a huge chuck of the Star Wars fan base. (5% chance it was posted by a Disney shill that never saw the the OG or Prequel trilogies)
Imagine being a stromtrooper and a random wizard with a sword utterly humiliates you,so much so you lose your job,dignity and the little respect everyone had for you.thats gotta be a traumatic experience.
You also could have added Padmé from the Darth Vader 2020 comic series (Basically Darth Vader and an mask that's possessed by an ancient Sith Lord build Vaders castle on Mustafar to open an Portal to the Dark side, Vader enters it, sees Obi Wan and Palpatine fighting and also fights the whole Jedi Council at once (and wins with an ease) just to talk to Padmé on an balcony where she says that the Man she loves is gone and then proceeds to jump off from the Balcony leaving an OP Anakin/Vader alone in that weird dimension, That comic series is dope asf)
@@WafflzAndSyrup Oh sorry, haven't seen your comment at all. I understand know why you didn't put it in there. -TH-cam basically hates me on so many different layers that i don't get at least notifications from TH-camrs which i subscribed and stuff-
Exiled from his home Had to earn their respect back through war Participated in some clone wars battles Became the politician who gave Palpatine what he needed to become the emperor Lost his job and went back home as an undesirable once again
Within the same trilogy Chewie lost Han, Luke, and Leia. You could see how much he was hurting when he found out Leia died. Seems like whoever posted this question didn't even watch the sequels.
@@frederickspeller8117 I got really fed up with everybody suggesting characters I wouldn't do and had been given an explanation for such. I did try and delete most of the comments after but I must have forgotten about this one. I'm sorry about that (another garbage apology from a TH-camr)
When it comes to experience, Rey is like Homelander: Somehow made stronger, better, and smarter than everyone around her because the writers wanted a British chick to be the main show. Oh, and it undid the entire point of the first six movies. The best scene in Star Wars since the Clone Wars episode where Anakin asserted dominance of the manifestations of the FORCE ITSELF was when that one badass Stormtrooper kicked Finn's ass.
I like to believe that rey isnt actually that powerfull and that everyone in the sequels has a massive skill issue, just think about it: Kylo used a lightsaber as a baseball bat The praetorian guards cant catch a baby and strugle to kill an almost unarmed mandalorian(paz visla) Palpatine literally killed himself out of stupidity and the list goes on
@@mobgabriel1767 Rose Tico nearly dooms the rebellion, and kills her and Finn when she crashes into him on that salt planet "Not fighting what we hate, sAvInG wHaT wE lOvE." Rose, take a look at every war ever.
Ik you done Anakin but here's more to add to him Born as a slave Slaved away ever since he was little The only person who loved him was his mother Mother still stuck as a slaver Anakin cant even see his mother or check up on her cause of the code The Jedi didn't even trust him at first The only father figure aka qui gon jinn dies (which could basically change the entire fate of the galaxy if he lived) trained by a guy who doesn't even respect him entirely acts more like a brother but he should act like a father figure Meets the only person who makes him happy (Padme) Mother dies because he didn't save her in time and had dreams of it Keep his secret of his marriage cause of the code Fear of losing the only other person who he loves Loses arm Has a padawan who feels like a sister then leaves because the council or the republic wouldn't trust her enough Is told to basically have no emotions after what he's been through Has dreams of the only person he loves dies and he knows if he doesn't stop it she will die The only person who respects him shows a way to save the person he loves NO RANK OF MASTER Has a choice of the person WHO DEINED THE RANK OF MASTER TO HIM AND WHO DOESNT TRUST HIM or the person who cares about him and knows how to save his wife feels like he cant come back to the Jedi after he cut master windu arm off so he might as well do the tasks so he can get to saving loved one. Loved one doesn't trust him Master makes him medium rare Pain through the suit Loved one died and kids died also ( allegedly kids died) Suffers with the thoughts what he did and how he could have had a better future instead of this one That was alot of stuff sooo thanks for reading
@@WafflzAndSyrup also i think you should do ahsoka next she got some points like the fact she was blamed by her best friend for a crime, made into a soldier ever since she was a padawan, and finds out the person who killed all her friends was her own master, ect
@@spookzthecreator what I'll do is get a bunch of suggested characters that are good, number then (ie 1-20), roll a dice, and the first five characters rolled will be put on the next poll so you can vote. For now we're doing Dooku because he was one of two I thought of off the top of my head.
I honestly can't think of a single time Rey went through any pain at all. Even when she was captured by Kylo the interrogation fails and she escapes shortly after, never being mentioned again. The character has literally no depth at all.
This is exactly the point of the meme, and it's actually fun to realise how much pain some characters, whom you may never have thought of to be associated with this meme, endure. Padme for example, didn't occur to me until I realised she gave birth to twins.
She died of sadness. The medical droid said that "medically, she is perfectly health. But for unknown reasons, we are losing her. She has lost the will to live."
Anakin last loads. 1. When he was 8 he lost his mother when the Jedi took him - without his mother - to the Jedi temple for training. 2. When Anakin was 19, he lost his mother when the Sandpeople kidnapped her. She died. 3. When he was 27, his padawan, Ahsoka, was prosecuted by the Jedi for a crime she did not commit. 4. His padawan left the Jedi order. 5. He dreamt his wife would die in childbirth, he was coerced into following his mentor down a path of his own destruction. 6 /7. He was defeated by his old Jedi master twice, he was unable to kill Obi-Wan, then when he was killed he felt he lost control of the Force - it was passed to another. 8. His padawan returned and almost defeated him, not once but three times. 9. His master, Darth Siddious, wanted his son to replace him as his apprentice, he thought he would loose his place in the galaxy to another. 10. At the end of the battle, when Siddious was striking his son with lightening, he feared he was losing his son to his evil master. Yes, he was redeemed, his path was one of falling downwards until he was covered by nothing but fear and the only path he saw was his doom, until his son showed him the light.
Thor, he lost his fellow viking friends, loki, his father odin, his mother, half of asgardian peoples, and his home. Peter parker, everybody forget who he is, he lost his aunt, his uncle, gwen, harry, etc. Peter suffered alot even the writers hate him.
Unfortunately I don't do characters from outside the same universe (Or galaxy for Star Wars) as the "name a character". That way every point made is more comparable. I stated that in the pinned comment.
So much more to the Anakin sith part. She basically found out her husband led what was pretty much a mass shooting involving men, women and children and to also find out he personally killed the youngest people there
@@dumbsow9420 I would pin this also but you can only pin one comment, and unfortunately I feel the need to keep my current pinned comment up so people stop making suggestions of characters I won't do.
Padmé: Everything listed in the video. Rey: Grew up alone. Force sensitive. Granddaughter of Palpatine, who somehow returned. Steals the Skywalker name because she's too much of a coward to admit her lineage.
I was like 11 when ROS came out. I was an idiot, and at that time just thought everything I watched was really good (I liked LAST JEDI, I CANNOT BELIEVE myself), anyways even I had a WTF moment when Palpatine came back.
I don't care that Dooku says that something is only impossible because you have deemed it so. This doesn't need anybody's verdict to be an impossible task.
Sidious himself, probably. He’s just a huge psychopath. Well done villain, sure, but no motives other than power. Either that or I’m severely uneducated.
@@SkitLegoIdeaTheory nah, Sidious got brought back and milked dry, as well as been forced to accept that Rey was his blood relative. Nobody deserves that :'(
Hell, Nute Gunray had a harder time than Rey. A cowardly trade baron manipulated by a Sith Lord into instigating a war against the Republic which was led by the same Sith Lord before ultimately being murdered at the behest of said Sith Lord. He was a disposable pawn who wanted security and look what it got him.
"Tell me a person who went through more pain than Rey" Even Jar Jar binks went through more pain than her What pain did she have? She's too perfect to feel any pain, at least according to whovever wrote her character
The biggest issue is one we all are already aware of. Rey isn't an actual character. She's meant to be an allegory for the metoo movement and the take over of Hollywood by women. The fact she is a complete Mary Sue is just phenomenally bad writing.
Ok Padme suffered a lot. But she also kinda had it coming? She married a guy who had already confessed to genocide, including the women and children. Someone who still suffered more was Leia. She lost her mother at birth and was essentially in hiding all growing up. She was tortured by Darth Vader, freaking sith, and then forced to watch the annihilation of the planet she was raised to feel responsibility for as a royal. A planet that her family was still on. And that's just in her first movie. She also had a broken marriage and her only child as far as we know, tried to tear down everything she believed in and spent her life sacrificing to build. And that same child murdered his father. Oh and her only brother decided the best way to deal with the trauma of his nephew turning into a monster was to vanish. Leias life was awful
Leia is on the potential list o characters that'll appear next poll. I'll explain how the character choosing thing works on every character poll I put out. Also, love is love IG. They needed some way of Anakin being the father of Luke and Leia.
@@WafflzAndSyrupProbably Padme and to be fair, I kinda get his point if it's that. Portman's performance was pretty wooden in that trilogy, the movies anyway.
Every other character had it worse than Ma-Rey Sue Ahsoka would be another great example in star wars Leia Asaij Ventress Merrin from the Nightsisters Satine the list is endless
The fact that they ruined his game with getting 5 bucks for 30 seconds worth of watching ads, and spamming ads in the first place, as well as continuously crashing and losing all progress is enough.
This is my problem with the Star Wars community. They hate the real winners. Jar Jar is a solid comedic character, and actually serves a purpose in the war. He means well, he’s just clumsy. I honestly feel terrible for Jar Jar’s actor because from what I’ve heard, he was harassed a LOT for… BEING Jar Jar. He eventually got a heroic role in Mandalorian season 3 THANK GOD. But y’all really gotta shut up about Jar Jar. I’m sick of it. I am SO sick of it.
Add onto that the fact the man who is ultimately responsible for everything was her trusted senator who used her to become the Supreme Chanceller which allowed him to ultimately become the Emperor.
Unfortunately I don't do characters in things like Legenads and games. I stated all of this in the pinned comment, but at least you didn't suggest another character from outside the Star Wars Galaxy.
Nah they won't. Recently that writer/head director person of the new and "exciting" Rey solo movie claimed herself to be the first female person to be in charge of a Star Wars story. Like Deborah Chow didn't exist (the Obi Wan series was garbage but it still serves as an example). Essentially my point is they have no idea WTF they're talking about, and will just forget about any other person (regardless of diversity) who made a significant contribution to a piece(s) of Star Wars media/Star Wars as a whole, to push their "force is female" agenda.
Unfortunately I don't do characters outside the universe (Or galaxy for Star Wars) they are set in. That way every point made is way more comparable than say a guy who fought in WW2 to The Doctor who fought in the biggest war ever, committed double genocide (One on his own race), watched half their companions die, and so so so much more. I stated that in the pinned comment.
@@Howlabunga Anakin was P1, Yoda was P2, and the rest of the people listed here are on the list of characters who may appear in the next poll (I explain how the voting works on every poll)
Can already tell before scrolling through these comics there will be one nerd that can name a character from some Star Wars comics or book series that got imprisoned to the end of time or some shit
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OK so to avoid anymore confusions- I will only be making vids on characters *IN* Star Wars. That is to say they aren't exclusive to comics (I also won't include points of pain that has occurred in comics) and have been confirmed canon (i.e. no legends). Thank you for your suggestions but unfortunately I do prefer to stick to the universe the character is in, as to make every character we compare much more comparable as they could experience the same thing.
ALSO: BE SURE to check out the poll I just put up on my channel- This time YOU get to decide who I'll do for the next entry in this series!
Edit 1: PLEASE just check the description for the link to the playlist of this series. I've already had five people make suggestions of characters I've already done at this time.
Edit 2: I'm very thankful this has surpassed the first episode of this series in views- that episode was garbage.
Edit 3: I've been told that the actual birth is more painful than pregnancy, which I put as "Considered maximum human endurance". I meant for the pregnancy point to include the birth, but also put the birth as a separate point because it really is enough on its own. It's my fault I didn't make that clear so MB. (No more edits from now on lol)
Litteral padme suffer more 😂
@@pktrainerpk5supersus459 what you on about?
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The geometry dash cube
Unfortunately I don't do characters from outside the same universe (Or galaxy for Star Wars) as the "name a character". That way every point made is more comparable. I stated that in the pinned comment. @@Demoli1584
Even in her own trilogy, literally any other character.
Eh, Rey had a crappy childhood I guess. Poe I can't actually recall having any struggles at all, unless you want to count dealing with Holdo.
That's why I put Finn on the list 💀
Some charakters probably did suffer less than her.
@@cameronjosephvideos5942 I'd count fighting a war against the first order.
@@OodldoodlNoodlesocks I think the main premise of this meme is that Rey doesn't suffer or develop enough as a person to be considered a good protagonist. I mean look at Luke, once immature, impatient, hot-headed. Then we see MULTIPLE scenes of him training and failing, loses his mentor, foster parents and hand, and learns the truth of his father.
I think the saddest thing is that Padme died not knowing if Anakin was redeemed and her last memory of him was nearly killing her and himself (figuratively) in the process
“This was her Lego clone wars minifigure”
I know the Lego clone wars minifigures had a reputation for looking awful but the Padme one has got to be one of the biggest crimes of the century 💀
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It was a violation
That sh*t was uglier than the swamp thing
She got disrespected
why her face looks like classic female Roblox's face
she has the same eyes and lips
Padme. The “strong independent woman” trope, but done right.
Modern Disney characters: the opposite
Edit: I learned the term for the bad kind. “Mary Sue.”
What about Ahsoka and Leia?
@@RWSfan2024 them too, but they are neither modern Disney nor the topic of the video.
Strong? She’s weak as shit
And independent? She relies on Anakin practically every time she gets into something
The only “strong independent woman” we’ve seen is Ahsoka and even then she’s not THAT strong compared to many male characters
But ay keep dick riding George Lucas when he honestly ain’t allat
@@RWSfan2024Leia and Ashoka were developed characters before Disney got their greasy BBQ-dipping-sauce-covered fingers all over starwars
shes not a strong independent woman trope, nor is she "independent. she was just made by people that understand strength does not mean masculinity, and you dont have to make your women more masculine to make them strong. people are strong in different ways, and its alright to rely on others even if you are strong.
I was gonna argue and ask "Pain? What kind of pain could she have possibly goen through?" And then I actually watched the video. Yeah, that's quite the list of pain to go through.
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I asked the same thing, but for Rey
@@pkmntrainerred4247 You're never gonna see a video on that, especially not from me lol.
@@WafflzAndSyrup Wouldn't be worth it to edit all 15 seconds of footage. She lost her boyfriend who she spent a year of her life trying to kill, watched an old dude that she new for like an hour die in front of her, and thought she killed chewie for all of an hour. That's the most pain she suffered.
Don't forget the part where her children make out with each other.
Yoda, lived for nearly 1000 years tending to the Jedi this entire time, spent the last 20 ish years of his life coming to term with the fact that his entire lifework and familly got slayed because of his own arrogance and inaction
I've already done Yoda for P2 of this series. Playlist in desccription.
A character who went through more pain:
Luke. Every single achievement of his was suddenly retconned so that Rey could be the one who ACTUALLY achieved them.
Luke defeated the Empire? No he didn't, there's a massive remnant big enough to create super weapons and threaten the entire Galaxy, but don't worry, Rey beats them and ACTUALLY brings Peace to the Galaxy.
Luke defeated the Emperor? No he didn't, he was actually still alive and it was all part of this big plan, but don't worry, Rey beats him and ACTUALLY brings an end to the Sith.
Luke reformed the Jedi Order from the ground up? No he didn't, all that crumbled away because of his failings of being a man, but don't worry, Rey is going to ACTUALLY reform the Jedi Order from the ground up.
I'll put him on the list of characters that might appear in each poll.
Star Wars 9 was such a pile of shit...
@@blade7y156 I would like you to use stronger language to describe that f***ing trainwreck of a movie. My only request is it's not used in my comment section.
When you started talking about the retcon thing in the start, I thought you were talking about the Lego Star Wars holiday special lol
Not gonna defend that steaming pile of crap that is Rey but Luke in the EU did not defeat the Empire either because remnants are also a thing there but how the war ends actually makes sense.
Palpatine did also return in Legends but that atleast had way better wrting than "Somehow Palpatine returned" but Luke did manage to beat him that time.
Luke's Jedi Order in the EU and I'll assume that the EU will still have better writing than Rey's Jedi order.
Your own lego figure looking bad is the worst pain you can possibly imagine.
If they made me into a LEGO figure I'd die quicker than the average battle droid.
I'd have said Obi-Wan. If you think about it. Obi-Wan was taken by the Jedi as a small child (Never knew his family), Has to leave behind his lover (Satine), Watches his Master die, has to put up with Anakin for 13 years, watches Dooku (probably someone Qui-Gon spoke with praise about) turn evil, he then has to fight a major war for 3 years where he's taken hostage multiple times, has to fake his own death, watch his rival kill his lover, nearly causes the death of Ahsoka, watches Anakin turn evil as he and Palpatine basically destroy everything Obi-Wan has ever known (The Jedi & Republic), Has to hide Anakin's secret marriage and then watch it fall apart (and even is blamed for it by Anakin), has to fight Anakin and then watch him burn knowing he did that, Then watches Padme die, spends 19 years as a fugitive, gets blamed by Owen for Anakin's "Death" & refused to train luke, Doesn't know that Ahsoka survived Order 66, Gets PTSD from the collapse of the Jedi, Gets Burned beaten up and buried alive by Vader when rescuing Anakin's daughter, has to kill his rival (Again), then dies, then has to try and make sure Luke remains on the right path to bring balance to the force.
I'll consider putting him on the next poll. After all he's never mentioned in the sequels
Worst part he got shafted in his own show by token black woman
@@shadowfury200tbf, he carried the prequels so hard he just emptied the backpack and watched what would happen if he stopped carrying
@@shadowfury200 who helped totally ruin the lightsaber
@@Freedmoon44 oh come one that's not fair it wasn't obi Wan that carried the prequels Palpatine as well
Rey, let's see. She... had a lonely childhood scavenging for parts after her parents sold her off, and she lost her mentor. Aside from those two things every bit of hardship she goes through is immediately turned into a win.
Get's kidnapped by Kylo Ren - Easily escapes within hours then beats him in a duel.
Get's tortured by Snoke - Snoke dies five minutes later
Even her whole Palpatine identity crisis was done within a few days.
Her backstory aside, Rey's story amounts to a few bad weekends. Character's like Obi Wan have had to sit with the weight of their failure in exile for 19 years.
Indeed
Her mentor Jake killed himself from exhaustion, after she learned that he got nothing to teach her.
@@gameoverinsertcointocontin8102 Was talking more about Leia. I mean they have basically no screen time together, but we were told she spent two years teaching her which is supposed to be enough for us to feel something right?
@@cameronjosephvideos5942 there was a gap of two years? I thought TRoS was like a month after TLJ?
@@bucketboi1724 I googled it. It's actually one year. Which is still kind of ridiculous, but at least a little less unbelievable than Rey becoming a match for Darth Sidious with only a month of training under her belt.
Honestly, with that Lego Minifigure, it's no wonder she lost the will to live
That's the most valid point.
The “this was her clone wars figure” one had me
I like to aknowledge that my comedy video is a comedy video, rather than only have serious points all throughout.
I know, I almost cried laughing! 😂
Lea. Alderaan. You could literally fill a whole video with just that.
I'll put her in the next pole, for now it seems like Dooku will win
Even having not watched much Clone Wars or Rebels, what she went through in the movies alone...
For the life of me I'm really struggling to remember what suffering Rey went through in the movies. Everything bad that happens to her other than her origin is resolved like fifteen minutes later in every movie.
Obi Wan went through a lot of pain too.
He watched his master and father figure die in front of him.
He had to become a mentor for Anakin when he’d just lost his own.
He found out the dude they thought was helping them for years was the Sith they’d been looking for ages.
Order 66 wiped out a lot of his fellow Jedi.
His best friend and “brother” turned to the Dark Side and he had to feel responsible.
His best friend’s wife died in front of him hours after watching his best friend turn.
He had to watch his best friend’s son grow up and be reminded of him for years.
He lived in solitude for years.
He'll be on the list of potential characters for the next poll.
I know someone mentioned it already, but Obi-Wan.
He got to the point where he accepted death gladly.
Her life was so shitty that even the force had beef with her just to make sure anakin stayed Vader
LOL
rey is the only character that got the easiest way, she didn't go through pain, it's just a slight ouch moment, so no wonder none likes her, she didn't do crap.
If you've the sanity and patience to do so, please let me know one thing Rey struggled with, and it took real training to overcame (Not a 30 second scene of her trying and failing)
@@WafflzAndSyrup i imagine it was quite easy to find something more difficult than what she faced, literally just had a few tiny scratches, while others have died or experienced death of their closest ally or even recieved deep scars (literally anything beats rey)
@@Diamon_sword1 exactly
@@WafflzAndSyrup It would be her own ego, except that's not seen as her flaw.
Oh yeah, Im pretty sure Niano Organa had it harder.
I mean, she had it rough. But she never had to learn the hard way about the importance of the high-ground.
Obi Wan is actually a master of the low ground. When he was fighting Darth Maul, he defeated him by jumping up from below him and slicing him in half. When he fights Anakin, he only slices Anakin until he's already above him.
"Jesse, what the hell are you talking about?"
I swear Kylo was really the only “good” character, Finn and Poe were okay in the first movie but Ben was the only one who actually experienced some kind of “heroes journey”
I low key feel sorry for Kylo. Not because of his "Tragic" backstory, but because none of the writers could decide on WTF to do with him. We've ALREADY HAD A REDEMPTION ARC thanks, give is something NEW.
Yeah, you notice his change when u watch the 2 fights he had with rey. In the first one he goes all attacking and having a short temper. In the second fight he first begins to just dodge her attacks because he’s become a little patient. He isn’t yelling all the time and is behaving like the leader of the first order he is.
Finn had so much potential as a Jedi, but they shafted him in favour of Rey just because he’s Black…
Except for that he worshiped Darth Vader and asked him to show him the dark side even though Anakin literally left the dark side and “killed” (😭) Emperor Palpatine
@@rioriorio17 I didn’t say he was an amazing character, he’s just by comparison alone the best character in the sequels
Random but sometimes the worst pain isn’t losing another, but losing yourself
And people mocked her because she died of sadness lol
I wasn't expecting even more after her death, that bit made me laugh.
I went into *depth* for this one
@@WafflzAndSyrup Hard to decide who's stank as hell more, Rey or Daisy.
@@Mistarpotato ultimately I'd say Rey. Daisy took the contract but it was the writers who shaped Rey. Actord are there for acting and writers are there for writing IG.
Never found Padmé more relatable.
Also her name has a little accented e like my mom’s, and I think that’s neat 😊
Bro, Anakin has gone through way more pain than anyone else. Imagine: being a slave, have to hide his romance, not granted the rank of Master, his padawan was framed for a bombing, his padawan left him, f*cking fooled by Palpatine, burnt to crisp, hands and legs cut off, and, damn bro I can’t even mention everything
I already did Anakin. I linked the playlist to this series in the description.
And Obi wan had to put up with all that + his training + 19 years exile + sad padawan life. OMG I cant this is pure saddnes.
Legends Grievous.
Had his planet invaded, and once he had the invaders on the run his planet was hit with sanctions from the Republic, causing famine for his people.
His partner was killed at the hands of the invaders he was fighting, and her body was washed out to sea, so he couldn’t even bury her.
And finally, the comrades closest to him were killed in a crash that was orchestrated by Dooku to frame the Republic, where they added artificial injuries to him to further persuade him, and rebuilding him completely into a foreign body.
It’s funny that not a whole lot of Star Wars fans know that Grievous is named, not only for what he causes, but for what he feels.
@@WafflzAndSyrup mhm, that's why I'm talking about legends and not you
@@ahumanoidtroodon1074 that was a very rude way of stating that I didn't do legends. I'm sorry about that.
@@WafflzAndSyrup my bad, didn't know it came off as rude. I'm sorry too, but I just think it's important to consider those versions of the character, as that is how they were intended when they were created. nothing wrong with what you're doing, plus canon Grievous still far outstrips Rey in this aspect. I mean the point of your video is that basically every SW character has endured more than Rey lmao
@@ahumanoidtroodon1074 "Name a character who went through more pain"
Me: *inhales*
One of my favorite scenes from the clone wars was when Clovis was forcing himself on padme and anakin proceeds to show up and beat the shit out of him
I've vowed to myself to watch that scene at least one a week.
This is something I like to call 'The Spider-Man Principle where the more pain and suffering a character endures, the better they are. (I only call it 'The Spider-Man Principle' since he's basically the mascot for this).
Good principle name
I'm still convinced(95% sure) that tweet that started all of these top tier memes was just trolling and knew that stance was going to be the easiest way to trigger a huge chuck of the Star Wars fan base. (5% chance it was posted by a Disney shill that never saw the the OG or Prequel trilogies)
Plot twist:he did it because he knew it would spawn good quality memes out of it
@@mobgabriel1767 if it is the former, then I would like to shake this persons hand
That clone who was crushed in half lol
Man what adds to hilarity is the guy who said that has Rick as his PFP. 🤣
Very funny. The LEGO Minifigure was here hardest trial in my opinion. Subscribing
Thanks bro. Stay tuned for P5 in a few months!
Imagine being a stromtrooper and a random wizard with a sword utterly humiliates you,so much so you lose your job,dignity and the little respect everyone had for you.thats gotta be a traumatic experience.
Don't forget your life.
@@WafflzAndSyrup yeah😂forgot about that one
You also could have added Padmé from the Darth Vader 2020 comic series
(Basically Darth Vader and an mask that's possessed by an ancient Sith Lord build Vaders castle on Mustafar to open an Portal to the Dark side, Vader enters it, sees Obi Wan and Palpatine fighting and also fights the whole Jedi Council at once (and wins with an ease) just to talk to Padmé on an balcony where she says that the Man she loves is gone and then proceeds to jump off from the Balcony leaving an OP Anakin/Vader alone in that weird dimension, That comic series is dope asf)
Please read the pinned comment, it provides all the information on what I do and don't include in these videos.
@@WafflzAndSyrup Oh sorry, haven't seen your comment at all. I understand know why you didn't put it in there.
-TH-cam basically hates me on so many different layers that i don't get at least notifications from TH-camrs which i subscribed and stuff-
that's unfortunate@@Cake2019_6
Even Jar Jar went through more pain than Rey 💀💀
Exiled from his home
Had to earn their respect back through war
Participated in some clone wars battles
Became the politician who gave Palpatine what he needed to become the emperor
Lost his job and went back home as an undesirable once again
@@noivern666 everyone thought he was a Sith Lord, and Ahmed Best IRL went through even worse.
The actor has a sadder backstory and an even better redemption than Rey
Litteraly, *everyone* sufferd more than Rey. Everyone, even a plant.
And even fking palpatine cuz he was abused by his father
Dude id say Ahsoka, she’s gone through so much. She lost everyone, twice. And she still kept going.
Ahsoka is on the list of characters that might appear in the next poll.
@@WafflzAndSyrup her and maul?
@@Evairel_2 I made a post asking what characters might appear. You can see the current full list there.
Oh nooooo, I was sad for a little while D:
That’s the peak of Rey’s “suffering”
Nah, the peak was the fact that she was the leading character in the sequel trilogy.
@@WafflzAndSyrup
No see that was US suffering.
She was living the high life
@@jakeeynick1369 fair point
Within the same trilogy Chewie lost Han, Luke, and Leia. You could see how much he was hurting when he found out Leia died. Seems like whoever posted this question didn't even watch the sequels.
@WafflzAndSyrup hey, that's real cool bro. Perhaps you could do a video on that some time.
@@frederickspeller8117 I got really fed up with everybody suggesting characters I wouldn't do and had been given an explanation for such. I did try and delete most of the comments after but I must have forgotten about this one. I'm sorry about that (another garbage apology from a TH-camr)
1:07 The Lego figure too, true pain
💀
literally the female roblox face 😭
When it comes to experience, Rey is like Homelander: Somehow made stronger, better, and smarter than everyone around her because the writers wanted a British chick to be the main show. Oh, and it undid the entire point of the first six movies. The best scene in Star Wars since the Clone Wars episode where Anakin asserted dominance of the manifestations of the FORCE ITSELF was when that one badass Stormtrooper kicked Finn's ass.
I like to believe that rey isnt actually that powerfull and that everyone in the sequels has a massive skill issue, just think about it:
Kylo used a lightsaber as a baseball bat
The praetorian guards cant catch a baby and strugle to kill an almost unarmed mandalorian(paz visla)
Palpatine literally killed himself out of stupidity and the list goes on
@@mobgabriel1767 Rose Tico nearly dooms the rebellion, and kills her and Finn when she crashes into him on that salt planet "Not fighting what we hate, sAvInG wHaT wE lOvE." Rose, take a look at every war ever.
"name a character that went trought more pain than her i'll wait"
"Dude padme *LITERALLY* died of sadness
As a matter of fact, the official diagnosis after the autopsy was the "You weren't in the OT disease".
Ok i could name all the people who suffered more pain than Rey but then i'd have to list every fictional and non fictional character in existence.
lol
Ik you done Anakin but here's more to add to him
Born as a slave
Slaved away ever since he was little
The only person who loved him was his mother
Mother still stuck as a slaver
Anakin cant even see his mother or check up on her cause of the code
The Jedi didn't even trust him at first
The only father figure aka qui gon jinn dies (which could basically change the entire fate of the galaxy if he lived)
trained by a guy who doesn't even respect him entirely acts more like a brother but he should act like a father figure
Meets the only person who makes him happy (Padme)
Mother dies because he didn't save her in time and had dreams of it
Keep his secret of his marriage cause of the code
Fear of losing the only other person who he loves
Loses arm
Has a padawan who feels like a sister then leaves because the council or the republic wouldn't trust her enough
Is told to basically have no emotions after what he's been through
Has dreams of the only person he loves dies and he knows if he doesn't stop it she will die
The only person who respects him shows a way to save the person he loves
NO RANK OF MASTER
Has a choice of the person WHO DEINED THE RANK OF MASTER TO HIM AND WHO DOESNT TRUST HIM or the person who cares about him and knows how to save his wife
feels like he cant come back to the Jedi after he cut master windu arm off so he might as well do the tasks so he can get to saving loved one.
Loved one doesn't trust him
Master makes him medium rare
Pain through the suit
Loved one died and kids died also ( allegedly kids died)
Suffers with the thoughts what he did and how he could have had a better future instead of this one
That was alot of stuff sooo thanks for reading
You listed at least six I actually included in the video. I did mention that it was a garbage first episode so you do make some good points.
@@WafflzAndSyrup also i think you should do ahsoka next she got some points like the fact she was blamed by her best friend for a crime, made into a soldier ever since she was a padawan, and finds out the person who killed all her friends was her own master, ect
or captain rex
@@spookzthecreator what I'll do is get a bunch of suggested characters that are good, number then (ie 1-20), roll a dice, and the first five characters rolled will be put on the next poll so you can vote. For now we're doing Dooku because he was one of two I thought of off the top of my head.
that seems cool it be interesting to see dooku@@WafflzAndSyrup
New but equally fitting song
A random Gonk Droid. Several Womp Rats. A number of Mouse Droids. The window Mace fell out of. A tight shirt worn by Aayla.
The last one had me rolling
Agreed
this has completely changed my whole perspective on Padme. The poor girl went through so much!!😭
the f ing dies got me rolling
lol
I honestly can't think of a single time Rey went through any pain at all. Even when she was captured by Kylo the interrogation fails and she escapes shortly after, never being mentioned again. The character has literally no depth at all.
This is exactly the point of the meme, and it's actually fun to realise how much pain some characters, whom you may never have thought of to be associated with this meme, endure. Padme for example, didn't occur to me until I realised she gave birth to twins.
Well I wouldn't say she "successfully" gave birth to twins....
She died of sadness. The medical droid said that "medically, she is perfectly health. But for unknown reasons, we are losing her. She has lost the will to live."
Also the Gourmet Race song goes so good with this it makes it so much more funnier
Gourmet? I thought it was the Kirby dreamland theme?
“F*king dies” got me 💀
Anakin last loads.
1. When he was 8 he lost his mother when the Jedi took him - without his mother - to the Jedi temple for training.
2. When Anakin was 19, he lost his mother when the Sandpeople kidnapped her. She died.
3. When he was 27, his padawan, Ahsoka, was prosecuted by the Jedi for a crime she did not commit.
4. His padawan left the Jedi order.
5. He dreamt his wife would die in childbirth, he was coerced into following his mentor down a path of his own destruction.
6 /7. He was defeated by his old Jedi master twice, he was unable to kill Obi-Wan, then when he was killed he felt he lost control of the Force - it was passed to another.
8. His padawan returned and almost defeated him, not once but three times.
9. His master, Darth Siddious, wanted his son to replace him as his apprentice, he thought he would loose his place in the galaxy to another.
10. At the end of the battle, when Siddious was striking his son with lightening, he feared he was losing his son to his evil master.
Yes, he was redeemed, his path was one of falling downwards until he was covered by nothing but fear and the only path he saw was his doom, until his son showed him the light.
Anakin was born 41BBY, so he became Darth Vader at 22, it was Padme who was 27 when she died.
Thor, he lost his fellow viking friends, loki, his father odin, his mother, half of asgardian peoples, and his home.
Peter parker, everybody forget who he is, he lost his aunt, his uncle, gwen, harry, etc. Peter suffered alot even the writers hate him.
Unfortunately I don't do characters from outside the same universe (Or galaxy for Star Wars) as the "name a character". That way every point made is more comparable. I stated that in the pinned comment.
So much more to the Anakin sith part. She basically found out her husband led what was pretty much a mass shooting involving men, women and children and to also find out he personally killed the youngest people there
Sorry I didn't go into depth about that. Had to keep the runtime for under 2:30 seconds. I meant what I had said to include all of his dark deeds.
@@WafflzAndSyrup Oh yeah I get ya I get ya no worries. Just more explaining in detail
@@dumbsow9420 I would pin this also but you can only pin one comment, and unfortunately I feel the need to keep my current pinned comment up so people stop making suggestions of characters I won't do.
"Mass shooting"? Bruh he took part in essentially, violent a coup d'état against the democratic government she nearly died for several times.
I remember that Era where all those Lego Figures had the "Realistic Eyes"
it worked great with some
But Others however 1:08 didnt translate well
There's another comment saying that Padmes minifig was the crime of the century 💀
Someone :"ReY iS tHe OnE wHo WeNt TrOuGhT tHe MoSt PaIn In SW"
Padme: die from sadnesse
After this video, the whole 'lost the will to live' suddenly makes much more sense.
Literally, anyone and everyone has gone through more than MayRey Sue Palpatine
Yes
Padmé: Everything listed in the video.
Rey: Grew up alone. Force sensitive. Granddaughter of Palpatine, who somehow returned. Steals the Skywalker name because she's too much of a coward to admit her lineage.
I was like 11 when ROS came out. I was an idiot, and at that time just thought everything I watched was really good (I liked LAST JEDI, I CANNOT BELIEVE myself), anyways even I had a WTF moment when Palpatine came back.
Leah watched her home world obliterated. And had to appear in the sequels.
We may struggle to find a character in the franchise who went through less pain than rey
I don't care that Dooku says that something is only impossible because you have deemed it so. This doesn't need anybody's verdict to be an impossible task.
Sidious himself, probably. He’s just a huge psychopath. Well done villain, sure, but no motives other than power.
Either that or I’m severely uneducated.
@@SkitLegoIdeaTheory nah, Sidious got brought back and milked dry, as well as been forced to accept that Rey was his blood relative. Nobody deserves that :'(
@@WafflzAndSyrup well done until he wasn’t
Honestly Adam Driver went thru more pain than Rey Palpatine cause he's a good actor but now everyone just remembers him for the sequels
I feel bad for all of the actors who are now just remembered (and in many cases hated) for their role in the sequels.
“Mfers stole my planet, can’t have shit on Naboo”-Palme Amidala
💀
Even the most painless person on earth went through more pain than her
Obi-wan, every clone trooper, Ahsoka, R2-D2, Anakin, Luke, Kylo, Padmé, Yoda…most Star Wars characters actually.
I thought it was the entire galaxy that had suffered more.
Hell, Nute Gunray had a harder time than Rey. A cowardly trade baron manipulated by a Sith Lord into instigating a war against the Republic which was led by the same Sith Lord before ultimately being murdered at the behest of said Sith Lord. He was a disposable pawn who wanted security and look what it got him.
Oh you disagree with the comment at the start? Name every Star Wars character.
Man, people are STILL making memes from that post?
.....good stuff, keep it coming!
You're gonna love P5
"Tell me a person who went through more pain than Rey"
Even Jar Jar binks went through more pain than her
What pain did she have? She's too perfect to feel any pain, at least according to whovever wrote her character
Exactly
The biggest issue is one we all are already aware of. Rey isn't an actual character. She's meant to be an allegory for the metoo movement and the take over of Hollywood by women.
The fact she is a complete Mary Sue is just phenomenally bad writing.
Thank for this masterclass !
You're welcome!
Ok Padme suffered a lot. But she also kinda had it coming? She married a guy who had already confessed to genocide, including the women and children.
Someone who still suffered more was Leia. She lost her mother at birth and was essentially in hiding all growing up. She was tortured by Darth Vader, freaking sith, and then forced to watch the annihilation of the planet she was raised to feel responsibility for as a royal. A planet that her family was still on. And that's just in her first movie. She also had a broken marriage and her only child as far as we know, tried to tear down everything she believed in and spent her life sacrificing to build. And that same child murdered his father. Oh and her only brother decided the best way to deal with the trauma of his nephew turning into a monster was to vanish. Leias life was awful
Leia is on the potential list o characters that'll appear next poll. I'll explain how the character choosing thing works on every character poll I put out. Also, love is love IG. They needed some way of Anakin being the father of Luke and Leia.
It's a sad day when the OG plank of wood in star wars outranks the newest plank of wood in star wars...
I think I might be doing an r/ whooosh but are you referring to Jar Jar when you say "plank of wood"?
@@WafflzAndSyrupProbably Padme and to be fair, I kinda get his point if it's that. Portman's performance was pretty wooden in that trilogy, the movies anyway.
The men's bathroom stick figure
Every warning sign stick figure.
Every other character had it worse than Ma-Rey Sue
Ahsoka would be another great example in star wars
Leia
Asaij Ventress
Merrin from the Nightsisters
Satine the list is endless
The list was printing since before the dawn of time...
A character who went through more pain:
The buddy from kick the buddy
The fact that they ruined his game with getting 5 bucks for 30 seconds worth of watching ads, and spamming ads in the first place, as well as continuously crashing and losing all progress is enough.
Yeah you sum it up, being pregnant and giving birth is enough in itself no need for more 😂
The others are endurable but spending 13 YEARS with Jar Jar is literal torture.
This is my problem with the Star Wars community. They hate the real winners.
Jar Jar is a solid comedic character, and actually serves a purpose in the war. He means well, he’s just clumsy.
I honestly feel terrible for Jar Jar’s actor because from what I’ve heard, he was harassed a LOT for… BEING Jar Jar. He eventually got a heroic role in Mandalorian season 3 THANK GOD. But y’all really gotta shut up about Jar Jar. I’m sick of it. I am SO sick of it.
@@SkitLegoIdeaTheory hey, man. We're just joking in a funny Star Wars video. It's not that deep.
@@siphonophores it just pisses me off, Jar Jar is an underrated character
@@SkitLegoIdeaTheory I missed the part where that's my problem.
@@SkitLegoIdeaTheoryalso..shhh darth jar jar is listening
Idk but the music works so well
I was *T E R R I F I E D* of copyright
Add onto that the fact the man who is ultimately responsible for everything was her trusted senator who used her to become the Supreme Chanceller which allowed him to ultimately become the Emperor.
Meetra Surik, Revan, Kreia, pretty much Any Old Republic Jedi who wasn't Psychotic.
Unfortunately I don't do characters in things like Legenads and games. I stated all of this in the pinned comment, but at least you didn't suggest another character from outside the Star Wars Galaxy.
There some time when the writher are like
-hey what do we do with her ?
-sufuring
Every clone in the clone wars.
I'm only doing individual characters, as that way their pain is much more comparable. Rex will represent the 501st when his time comes.
Like the great that Kaminon once said
200,000 units are ready with a 1,000,000 more well on the way
I would pin this comment but I want to keep the context mine holds visible for everyone to see. I'm putting this as a community post instead.
Thanks
@@Capt_boba7732 sh!t I can't. It keeps cropping out half the screenshot
It’s ok
literally any of the clones who are slaves made to fight from birth
Rex may appear on the next poll.
Senior chief petty officer Miles O'Brien Federation Starfleet
Rey: No one has gone through more pain than me
*Fucking childbirth:*
Did Rey even gl through anything major? I think Finn had it way worse then her if were talking sequels only
No, she didn't
I mean Leia's entire home planet was obliterated
Leia is on the list of characters that may appear on the next poll (I explain how things work for each character poll)
And Obi wan had to put up with all that + his training + 19 years exile + sad padawan life. OMG I cant this is pure saddnes.
This time, since it's a WAHMAN, they're probably going to get it.
Nah they won't. Recently that writer/head director person of the new and "exciting" Rey solo movie claimed herself to be the first female person to be in charge of a Star Wars story. Like Deborah Chow didn't exist (the Obi Wan series was garbage but it still serves as an example). Essentially my point is they have no idea WTF they're talking about, and will just forget about any other person (regardless of diversity) who made a significant contribution to a piece(s) of Star Wars media/Star Wars as a whole, to push their "force is female" agenda.
Literally any and every clone trooper ever
Do you want me to put Captain Rex on the next poll?
@@WafflzAndSyrup Sure why not
Literally any version of Spider-man Marvel ever made.
Unfortunately I don't do characters outside the universe (Or galaxy for Star Wars) they are set in. That way every point made is way more comparable than say a guy who fought in WW2 to The Doctor who fought in the biggest war ever, committed double genocide (One on his own race), watched half their companions die, and so so so much more. I stated that in the pinned comment.
@@WafflzAndSyrup ok. Yoda, the actual Skywalker family, Rex, and Obi-Wan
@@Howlabunga Anakin was P1, Yoda was P2, and the rest of the people listed here are on the list of characters who may appear in the next poll (I explain how the voting works on every poll)
@@WafflzAndSyrup rex
@@Howlabunga I did mention that everybody else listed were on the list. That does include rex.
Having to put up wit c3po is the worst thing imaginable
Indeed
Poor R2
And was played by Natalie Portman
Anyone ever "Name one person who went through more pain then Rey"
Me, *Inahles*
Guessing you're still listing characters.
@@WafflzAndSyrup I haven't slept in two days.... help me
The Gungans, they suffered by having to put up with Jar Jar
Too true
Padme is so underrated probably the best solider in the republic 💀
Can already tell before scrolling through these comics there will be one nerd that can name a character from some Star Wars comics or book series that got imprisoned to the end of time or some shit