@geheimschriver And still people lap 'em up...........Rusty Mercs, BMWs that stop for no apparent reason.....Halfway down reliability indexes, doesn't seem to matter, that's image for you I guess.
@@CBielski87 really? Whatever shame vs pride means. Let me give you just a few examples of companies acting much worse: GM and Ford literally killing people by covering up an fatal flaws in their cars because it was cheaper on multiple occasions, Toyota doing something similar, a Japanese airbag company doing the same. And that's just car manufacturers e.g. DuPont with it's Teflon scandal, Boeing with its broken MCAS did just as worse.
I love that 'senior managers werent involved' 1. because a few engineers would do something like that as a secret financial gift to their bosses and 2. American CEOs would NEVER do ANYTHING like this
Yeah, I love how CEOs are like “I am the rock star who built every brick in this amazing company by hand,” the day before legal trouble, and the day after and in court are like “what does my company do? Not really sure…I am more just on the board, I barely even work there and I never heard of that CFO guy or my other colleagues or any details of our what we do.”
it was literally unprecedented NOx pollution exposure [due to their stupid addiction to diesel] and ze Germans prove again how little they care about shame vs pride
The Real Scandal Is the EPA's Diesel Policy, Not Volkswagen. What's horrendous is the morons that support them. Its amazing how naive people are today.
especially when engineers were most likely encouraged by senior management. A good lesson to stand your ground in any profession where you could end up on the chopping block
Now it needs to investigate how many shares were sold before the scandal and how many shares were bought back after scandal and everything becomes clear.
@@genieinabottle2819maybe the managers knew that the scandal was soon public, and sold a lot of the companys stock shares at the regular "high" price. And when the scandal goes public, many other investors also sell their shares Wich causes the price to go much lower. And when the price is low, the managers can buy the shares back and they made a big profit on the price difference. (note about the comment) I am not very familiar with stock trading so if someone notices that I wrote something wrong, please tell me so I can edit the comment.
This failure is a failure of the company, its processes, its management, its CEO, Garbage motherfuckers. Hope Martin Winterkorns career is finished and no one hires him. Hope Volkswagen as a company lives with a ruined reputation, with financial damage. Hope more people see this video and Volkswagen’s reputation goes down the toilet. Hope more people are know about the unethicality of corporations and this affects their reputation. Don’t show mercy to companies for all the bullshit that they do, which affects employees and the environment.
The major aspect with VW Diesel defeat of NOx emission controls was that VW advertised and promoted their technology as being above anybody else's making their Diesels cleaner than comparable gasoline cars with better performance and great fuel economy. People were buying VW Diesels believing they were buying a champion of high technology clean emissions vehicles. No USA heavy duty road Diesel manufacture was able to actually meet the USA EPA new 2010 Diesel emission standards and in trying their engines were a nightmare of drivability and reliability problems making them largely not fleet worthy till the emission systems were removed. It was likely 2015 before USA Cummins Diesel had a emissions compliant Diesel engine that wasn't impossible for reliable service. In was 2018 -19 before Cummins had highly reliable good driving emissions compliant Diesel. Detroit Diesel is similar using Cummins technology. Volvo and Paccar Diesel engines have reliability issues stemming greatly from the emissions control systems. Paccar is a DAF engine with many durability issues. For colder climates where NO2 will quickly condense and rain out of the atmosphere in 5 - 10 days NO2 emissions are not as critical as in hot climates where above 70.2°F NO2 will remain a gas. USA NOx emission regulations for vehicles are about 3 to 4 times less than in the colder EU. Incomplete combustion of fuel produces typical irritating air pollution. Diesel engines running on fuel oil naturally produce particulate matter PM. Forcing complete combustion to produce pure CO2 and H2O and collecting and burning off particular matter from Diesel is what emission controls go after. NOx is produced from compressing earth's nitrogen oxygen atmosphere to high pressures and temperatures which happens greatly in a Diesel engine. Unfortunately highly complete combustion encourages high temperatures and the production of NOx. Exhaust gas recirculation uses the exhaust with low oxygen content to dilute the atmospheric oxygen on the intake of the engine to cause combustion to take place over a larger volume of atmosphere at lower temperatures to give about the same expansion. With a gasoline engine this has the added benefit of making the gasoline vapor less volatile reducing preignition. Diesel's run extremely lean leaving a lot of oxygen in the exhaust and still produce high temperatures even when diluting atmospheric oxygen with EGR. This means to reduce NOx with EGR in a Diesel means using a whole lot of it causing great difficulties. With higher NOx limits it is largely impossible to do with EGR and a second reaction fluid is used to reduce NOx into N2. NO2 is an irritating brownish gas that with sunlight produces NO + O where the O combines with O2 to form very irritating O3 ozone. The O3 would quickly give up its O to recombine with NO if it wasn't for the presence of volatile organic compounds that combine with the NO first. VOC are vapors from gasoline typically escaping during fueling. VOC are also produced from plants especially trees around Los Angles CA.
It is your opinion but this is only marketing/political scandal. Almost every car manufacture lies about emissions like ford, vw, toyota, mercedes, bmw..... Ford gets caught twice but it wasnt that big scandal. Why? Because ford is american manufacture and vw not. Vw is stoling ford/gm profit (sales) so they must stop it and thats why. And why not japanese manufactures like toyota? Well USA has high state debt against japan so they will not make from them an enemy..... But you can bellieve whatever you want.
@@airsoftsniper4865 actually... BMW was the brand that had tests which came the closest to fabric specs. They didn't lie. I remember after this scandal broke loose in the media, they checked other companies and BMW came out GREAT!
Fun fact, the day that volkswagen started to open up about this wa as the day that a new huge volkswagen dealer opened up in my area, somehow it's still open
used for a case study in university course~
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VW only agreed to compensate consumers when the US Govt told them "your ability" to sell cars expires tomorrow.
The reason they don't do anything on Europe is because they just want the cars and nothing more🤨
@geheimschriver And still people lap 'em up...........Rusty Mercs, BMWs that stop for no apparent reason.....Halfway down reliability indexes, doesn't seem to matter, that's image for you I guess.
I mean it is obviously a bad thing, but not really worse than any other big company would act.
@@lal12 it was literally unprecedented and ze Germans prove again how little they care about shame vs pride
@@CBielski87 really? Whatever shame vs pride means. Let me give you just a few examples of companies acting much worse: GM and Ford literally killing people by covering up an fatal flaws in their cars because it was cheaper on multiple occasions, Toyota doing something similar, a Japanese airbag company doing the same. And that's just car manufacturers e.g. DuPont with it's Teflon scandal, Boeing with its broken MCAS did just as worse.
2.7 billion for environmental clean up, what they collect air an run it through filters is this what they do
Lmfao,
I love that 'senior managers werent involved' 1. because a few engineers would do something like that as a secret financial gift to their bosses and 2. American CEOs would NEVER do ANYTHING like this
Yeah, I love how CEOs are like “I am the rock star who built every brick in this amazing company by hand,” the day before legal trouble, and the day after and in court are like “what does my company do? Not really sure…I am more just on the board, I barely even work there and I never heard of that CFO guy or my other colleagues or any details of our what we do.”
absolutely horrendous if they shifted blame on the engineers and not on senior management
it was literally unprecedented NOx pollution exposure [due to their stupid addiction to diesel] and ze Germans prove again how little they care about shame vs pride
The Real Scandal Is the EPA's Diesel Policy, Not Volkswagen. What's horrendous is the morons that support them. Its amazing how naive people are today.
Piëch.
especially when engineers were most likely encouraged by senior management. A good lesson to stand your ground in any profession where you could end up on the chopping block
Now it needs to investigate how many shares were sold before the scandal and how many shares were bought back after scandal and everything becomes clear.
I know this was from a long time ago...but can you explain?
@@genieinabottle2819 Basically high level execs should be investigated for insider trading.
@@aaditolkar Insider trading is not illegal if you are an exec.
@@genieinabottle2819maybe the managers knew that the scandal was soon public, and sold a lot of the companys stock shares at the regular "high" price. And when the scandal goes public, many other investors also sell their shares Wich causes the price to go much lower. And when the price is low, the managers can buy the shares back and they made a big profit on the price difference.
(note about the comment)
I am not very familiar with stock trading so if someone notices that I wrote something wrong, please tell me so I can edit the comment.
My instincts never allow me to buy this brand of car. Can you imagine?
I wish they'd put this much effort into looking into Google.
it was literally unprecedented and ze Germans prove again how little they care about shame vs pride
volkswagen, building cars for you not the epa.
True, but the problem is the environment.
Yeah. Fuck clean air!
Reputation damage
people will still buy VW they'll lose a lot of customers but they'll still have people buying vw
we cant pass emission tests even with a cheat device....
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TSI cars were not affected as it runs on normal gasoline
This failure is a failure of the company, its processes, its management, its CEO, Garbage motherfuckers. Hope Martin Winterkorns career is finished and no one hires him. Hope Volkswagen as a company lives with a ruined reputation, with financial damage. Hope more people see this video and Volkswagen’s reputation goes down the toilet.
Hope more people are know about the unethicality of corporations and this affects their reputation. Don’t show mercy to companies for all the bullshit that they do, which affects employees and the environment.
$34 million went to South Carolina
The major aspect with VW Diesel defeat of NOx emission controls was that VW advertised and promoted their technology as being above anybody else's making their Diesels cleaner than comparable gasoline cars with better performance and great fuel economy. People were buying VW Diesels believing they were buying a champion of high technology clean emissions vehicles.
No USA heavy duty road Diesel manufacture was able to actually meet the USA EPA new 2010 Diesel emission standards and in trying their engines were a nightmare of drivability and reliability problems making them largely not fleet worthy till the emission systems were removed. It was likely 2015 before USA Cummins Diesel had a emissions compliant Diesel engine that wasn't impossible for reliable service. In was 2018 -19 before Cummins had highly reliable good driving emissions compliant Diesel. Detroit Diesel is similar using Cummins technology. Volvo and Paccar Diesel engines have reliability issues stemming greatly from the emissions control systems. Paccar is a DAF engine with many durability issues.
For colder climates where NO2 will quickly condense and rain out of the atmosphere in 5 - 10 days NO2 emissions are not as critical as in hot climates where above 70.2°F NO2 will remain a gas. USA NOx emission regulations for vehicles are about 3 to 4 times less than in the colder EU.
Incomplete combustion of fuel produces typical irritating air pollution. Diesel engines running on fuel oil naturally produce particulate matter PM. Forcing complete combustion to produce pure CO2 and H2O and collecting and burning off particular matter from Diesel is what emission controls go after.
NOx is produced from compressing earth's nitrogen oxygen atmosphere to high pressures and temperatures which happens greatly in a Diesel engine. Unfortunately highly complete combustion encourages high temperatures and the production of NOx. Exhaust gas recirculation uses the exhaust with low oxygen content to dilute the atmospheric oxygen on the intake of the engine to cause combustion to take place over a larger volume of atmosphere at lower temperatures to give about the same expansion. With a gasoline engine this has the added benefit of making the gasoline vapor less volatile reducing preignition.
Diesel's run extremely lean leaving a lot of oxygen in the exhaust and still produce high temperatures even when diluting atmospheric oxygen with EGR. This means to reduce NOx with EGR in a Diesel means using a whole lot of it causing great difficulties. With higher NOx limits it is largely impossible to do with EGR and a second reaction fluid is used to reduce NOx into N2.
NO2 is an irritating brownish gas that with sunlight produces NO + O where the O combines with O2 to form very irritating O3 ozone. The O3 would quickly give up its O to recombine with NO if it wasn't for the presence of volatile organic compounds that combine with the NO first. VOC are vapors from gasoline typically escaping during fueling. VOC are also produced from plants especially trees around Los Angles CA.
VW CEO, execs and managers: "Oops, our bad, we're going to go now"
They should have been executed and VW should have been broken up
Toyota #1 for a reason!
It is your opinion but this is only marketing/political scandal. Almost every car manufacture lies about emissions like ford, vw, toyota, mercedes, bmw..... Ford gets caught twice but it wasnt that big scandal. Why? Because ford is american manufacture and vw not. Vw is stoling ford/gm profit (sales) so they must stop it and thats why. And why not japanese manufactures like toyota? Well USA has high state debt against japan so they will not make from them an enemy..... But you can bellieve whatever you want.
@@airsoftsniper4865 actually... BMW was the brand that had tests which came the closest to fabric specs. They didn't lie. I remember after this scandal broke loose in the media, they checked other companies and BMW came out GREAT!
Unintended acceleration.
Well since you have bombed Germany's pipeline I think these types of financial strongarmings payments should be paid back.
Moral of the story: hire better engineers that will hide better the hack.
..... times don’t change ..... they only changed kind of gas ....
Fun fact, the day that volkswagen started to open up about this wa as the day that a new huge volkswagen dealer opened up in my area, somehow it's still open
Do they still get sales?
@@sadedx Volkswagen still sells well. They are great vehicles from top to bottom
@@SaskTransfer I rarely see Volkswagens where I live so I doubt that
@@sadedx "I didn't see it so it didn't happen" 😂
Edit: VW sold 375,030 units in the US in 2021.
I'm just here to learn about this in case it comes up on AQA A-Level Maths, due to the large data set.
STOP THE STUPID SOND EFFECTS
Never do communication studies course.
Why was this such a big deal exactly?
Toyota 1 ,5 bilhões and vw 15 bilhões ???? what's ????? helo American govern ... vw rulez!!!!!
The other companies just didn't admit it.
no, there would be lawsuits etc. vw is dirty company,
Neither did VW. They had to get caught.
No filter!?!?
US only?
I'll take one of those rigged diesel cars.
Just bought one of them cars for cheap and love it.
how did you do it can you share with me , thank you
Thank you in advance VW for the payback.
How much did you get if I may ask?
@@bedeckt €0,00
@@roybm3124 RIP
so you still got the car? :D sorry to revive a bad memory
@@bedeckt Haha i have no grief. It’s still driving wont give up. Almost 500.000 km on it.
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lol
Thank you !!!!!! Volkswagen for my TDI !!! love it !!
Maybe you should watch the relevant episode of a series called 'Dirty Money' on Netflix, you might not be thanking them after.........
@@rob5944 what’s the summary of the show?
Volkswagen is ahead of Toyota again. it’s crazy how much money this company has
Goodbye VW. Hello ObamaMotors!
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This just makes my Golf TDI even more badass ......
Yep I quite like the idea of it lol.
@@SA77888 More fool you then.
Oh dear.
No it doesn’t. Lol.
how are the prices at the diesel pumps today?
Justice for the Air !!
sup
PUT YOUR VOLUME UP.
Volkswagen is 2016 the number 1 again!
Shows how dumb people are then..........
Market flankers like SEAT and Skoda.. ...plus other brands like Audi, Porsche, Lamborghini, Bentley, Bugatti, etc... and people who just don’t care.
ha ha ha ha ha ha !!!!!!...the Germans again ???????
Prince hectoroftroy shut the fuck up.
Idiot
WORLD WIDE BOYCOTTE OF VW AND SISTER COMPANIES NOW
This was mostly the media looking for clickbait.
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