The episodes when characters are put under immense psychological pressure are actually the most rewarding professionally because the actors can show their true acting skills.
This. O’Brien was a better character because he wasn’t a TNG season 1-2 character that got over everything. He had flaws like a person not some meaningless utopian. His speech during “Tribunal” talking about trying to be a good person for his daughter, is one of the most powerful speeches I’ve ever heard.
I think you're talking about the botched episode where every other character was completely out of character and he ran to a remote planet, but instead of validating the episode, the writer's copped out and said he was a replicant. In the following episode everyone was back to normal. I think it's one of those times where they goofed as writers and had to double back; like the last episode of NG where they're bitter old Boomers, but DS9 invalidated the entire episode by bringing Worf on board and changing his story away from Troi; or simply like on DS9 where they tried to make it like Worf didn't grow up in Russia and killed a classmate when he was 13; and then Worf was Russian again despite no accent. Thematically, DS9 had a lot of cleaning to do after NG; but they made a bit of a mess in the process. At least O'Brien wasn't just a probationary character on DS9. Regarding the trial, he survived because otherwise spoon-faced Judge Judy would have been cancelled due to a technicality.
@@derchozenvun83 I am referring to the episode "Visionary" where O'brien timeshifts randomly into the future. At the end, the true O'brien dies of radiation poisoning and his future self goes back in time and replaces him.
My favorite was the time the O'Brien clone with the bomb embedded in him was sent back to DS9. The clone thought he was real but everyone else suspected he was fake.
@ennayanne Star Trek was originally envisioned as a space western, but occasionally it does stories that cannot be told in any other style other than science fiction.
Holy shit they're right. I once had a dream after watchin Deep Space 9, before I even know this meme, I dreamed O'Brien and I was getting tortured by Borgs! That was a freaky dream because we were rescued by the enterprise, but the Borg bested the ship! They had made me a borg without me knowing about it. They had planned for us to get rescued so that when I was back on the ship, borg super weapons was activated from within my body and I started killing the crew without any control of myself!! Epic dream really.
O'Brien is the everyman, the working man. But with a strong need to help people. So yeah he was going to get into it. Bashir, should have gotten some too. But O'Brien being an engineer is vital to crippling DS9 or the Defiant if you're a bad guy.
Come on. For O'Brien it was a hassle. He went from top of the line Federation technology on the flagship to trying to merge Cardassian technology with Bajoran and Federation and being the first person folk blamed when it wasn't perfect. Transporter chief was a cushy desk job by comparison.
@kxmode he was also poisoned by a Bajoran resistance bug that made him babble nonsense and nearly killed him "SIMPLE HESITATION!" (one of my favorite Trek quotes), captured by Cardassians and put in a mock trial, and in another incident forced to serve a twenty year sentence in his mind for a crime he didn't commit, had to betray his C.O. for a pah wraith that was holding his wife hostage, lost an apprentice he cared about to a slow death from the Jem'Hadar, and had to fight in another war even though he still suffered PTSD from the Cardassian war. Along with a host of other, really messed up stuff. On the Enterprise, his greatest trial was having to face his old C.O. who was breaking the law. (Though "The Wounded" was a superb episode of TNG) All in all, I think DS9 was a rock polisher for O'Brien. Compared to the comfortable flight of The Enterprise D. (P.S. love the Calvin profile pic. Big thumbs up.)
@@WilliamGreerHe went from pushing a few buttons in a little room to managing the systems of an entire alien space station, which ended up deciding the fate of 1/4 of a Galaxy. The man went into battle at the head of entire federation fleets, fought and drank with the future High Chancellor of the Klingon Empire, and at the end of all his suffering became a professor of engineering at Starfleet Academy. The man may have suffered as a result of his career choices but he did alright in the end.
@MDE_never_dies I adore O'Brien. Got his action figure from DS9 hanging on my wall because he's awesome. The one with his sleeves rolled up. He's a damn hero. Miles Edward O'Brien. Starfleet's best.
Harry Kim has Chief O'Brien beat, though. He had the chief's knack for suffering, Worf's awful luck in love, Data's lack of promotion, and every show where they tried to even give him a higher rank wound up ending before they could.
@@oddish4352Even the doctor was complicit, he still prepared and gave Janeway the spray. The only way you could argue he wasn’t would be by saying that his programming at that point still required him to follow orders. 7, Neelix and Tuvok are the only guilt free ones because they weren’t there
Great actor, great character. Miles really did get it bad, from the multitude of times he hurt his elbow kayaking in the holodeck with no safeties, being forced to live a decades long jail sentence in a dungeon in a direct brain simulation (Think about that. He still has those memories...IT STILL FEELS LIKE IT HAPPENED TO HIM), having one of his kid stuck in a time hole, all that. But worse of all, married to Keiko. Hey hey hey, don't argue. She insulted the man's mother's cooking for god's sake! She was always going on about flowers while he just wanted to go have a pint and throw darts with his mate. Or play WWI flying ace rpg, whatever.
I think Chief Obrien is the most underrated character in the whole Star Trek series. He's been in half of the TNG episodes including both the pilot episode and finale. He's been in all the DS9 episodes. Why wasn't he in the movies? In the movie First contact, it was funny that the Enterprise recued the Defiant and Worf was the only known character on board. They should've put Obrien in there and maybe Bashir and Dax. Even if they play small parts.
The tbing about O'Brien is that it wasn't actually unique to his character... it just SEEMED that way because of the type of character he was. With the nature of episodic television, bad things happened to characters a lot. Everyone went through a lot of hardships in Deep Space Nine. It wasn't just O'Brien. It stands out so much more for him - and comes off a lot more brutal - specifically BECAUSE his character was such a grounded everyman person.
Think about your cast, who else do you torture? Sisco? He suffered a lot already. Dax? Hell no. Worf? He'd just smile. Kira? She suffered war, genocide, occupation.... where do you go from there? They didn't even torture ferenghi much because they're too childlike.
I never understood why the writers didn't give them better chemistry or at least less episodes with them fighting. We never really saw them having a normal relationship.
Aside from the goofy replicant episode where he was in bizarro world until they botch it in the cave and expect the audience to think it was bizarro O'Brien, his second ST gig treated him much better as an actor. NG always casted him like a probationary character and acted like they didn't on the last episode after he secured a better job. Keiko sucked, but she wasn't really Japanese anyway.
That female asking the questions to Mr. Meaney appeared to be highly nervous and unsure what she really wanted to ask him. * Her 5 minutes claim to fame, blown. Now that funny you just know it. ☺
"but I survived it all" is hilarious when you consider that the chief had to watch himself die at least once
Twice! Once with the clone and once with the future Obrien
@@chriscarter3630 More, in the Episode with the future one, he watched how he got killed by a booby trap.
Wait a minute, did Colm not know the writers LOVED torturing O’Brien? The writers literally had an O’Brien Must Suffer episode in every season of DS9.
I got second-hand embarrassment from reading that.
DS9 is just Obrien day dreaming standing in the transporter room all day on the enterprise.
Underrated comment!
"I could beam you all into space right now..."
That's O'Brien at Work
HAH
There's a web comic where DS9 is a role playing game being played by the TNG crew, and O'Brian and Kieko play each other
He's never left character, "yeah, i loved being treated like shit" was the most O'Brien thing to say 😂😂😂
It truly is! 😂
The episodes when characters are put under immense psychological pressure are actually the most rewarding professionally because the actors can show their true acting skills.
This. O’Brien was a better character because he wasn’t a TNG season 1-2 character that got over everything. He had flaws like a person not some meaningless utopian. His speech during “Tribunal” talking about trying to be a good person for his daughter, is one of the most powerful speeches I’ve ever heard.
Pretty sure he didn't survive - he got replaced by an O'brien from 3 hours in the future in season 3 I think.
Remember when Obrian had to experience 20 years in 2 hours.
@@erikolsen1333 yeah he spent 20 years in a cardassian prison in his mind
@@jaredvincent3323 It was an Argrathi prison.
I think you're talking about the botched episode where every other character was completely out of character and he ran to a remote planet, but instead of validating the episode, the writer's copped out and said he was a replicant.
In the following episode everyone was back to normal. I think it's one of those times where they goofed as writers and had to double back; like the last episode of NG where they're bitter old Boomers, but DS9 invalidated the entire episode by bringing Worf on board and changing his story away from Troi; or simply like on DS9 where they tried to make it like Worf didn't grow up in Russia and killed a classmate when he was 13; and then Worf was Russian again despite no accent.
Thematically, DS9 had a lot of cleaning to do after NG; but they made a bit of a mess in the process. At least O'Brien wasn't just a probationary character on DS9.
Regarding the trial, he survived because otherwise spoon-faced Judge Judy would have been cancelled due to a technicality.
@@derchozenvun83 I am referring to the episode "Visionary" where O'brien timeshifts randomly into the future. At the end, the true O'brien dies of radiation poisoning and his future self goes back in time and replaces him.
We all know that Miles Obrian was the greatest engineer in star fleet.
@Andrew Walker XDDDD
He is the greatest man in Starfleet
*Miles O’Brien
But let's forget he learnt for Geordi LaForge, so we have to give some of the credit to his mentor as well
@@VeeAllar738 I don’t really think Geordi was his mentor he was his superior but I wouldn’t say mentor him
His friendship with Bashir got him in trouble a few times too.
I'm 2 episodes away from series finale. As an immigrant it is new to me. DS9
I'm rewatching and on season 6. This series is so much better than I remembered.
Now it's time to ask yourself if Gul Ducat survives Total Recall. I'm pretty sure Everett fades out in that without a death scene.
Great man. Great actor.
My favorite was the time the O'Brien clone with the bomb embedded in him was sent back to DS9. The clone thought he was real but everyone else suspected he was fake.
that one was brutal
@ennayanne Star Trek was originally envisioned as a space western, but occasionally it does stories that cannot be told in any other style other than science fiction.
When the shit hit the fan, O'Brien always looked like he was thinking "Ah, feck!"
Holy shit they're right. I once had a dream after watchin Deep Space 9, before I even know this meme, I dreamed O'Brien and I was getting tortured by Borgs! That was a freaky dream because we were rescued by the enterprise, but the Borg bested the ship! They had made me a borg without me knowing about it. They had planned for us to get rescued so that when I was back on the ship, borg super weapons was activated from within my body and I started killing the crew without any control of myself!! Epic dream really.
I look at it like this. Miles went through hell on DS9. And at the end, he gets transferred back to Earth. a.k.a. Paradise.
DAAAEEERRRTS 🎯
Happy St. Patrick’s Day Miles
O'Brien is the everyman, the working man. But with a strong need to help people. So yeah he was going to get into it. Bashir, should have gotten some too. But O'Brien being an engineer is vital to crippling DS9 or the Defiant if you're a bad guy.
All of his life on TNG it was "Keiko gets what she wants", and then in DS9 it was everybody on O'Brien, poor guy.
Compared to the Enterprise being on DS9 was a dream.
Come on. For O'Brien it was a hassle. He went from top of the line Federation technology on the flagship to trying to merge Cardassian technology with Bajoran and Federation and being the first person folk blamed when it wasn't perfect. Transporter chief was a cushy desk job by comparison.
@@WilliamGreer But he was stuck in a transporter room for an 8-10 hour shift. On DS9 he had so many things to do plus he was the chief engineer.
@kxmode he was also poisoned by a Bajoran resistance bug that made him babble nonsense and nearly killed him "SIMPLE HESITATION!" (one of my favorite Trek quotes), captured by Cardassians and put in a mock trial, and in another incident forced to serve a twenty year sentence in his mind for a crime he didn't commit, had to betray his C.O. for a pah wraith that was holding his wife hostage, lost an apprentice he cared about to a slow death from the Jem'Hadar, and had to fight in another war even though he still suffered PTSD from the Cardassian war. Along with a host of other, really messed up stuff.
On the Enterprise, his greatest trial was having to face his old C.O. who was breaking the law. (Though "The Wounded" was a superb episode of TNG)
All in all, I think DS9 was a rock polisher for O'Brien. Compared to the comfortable flight of The Enterprise D.
(P.S. love the Calvin profile pic. Big thumbs up.)
@@WilliamGreerHe went from pushing a few buttons in a little room to managing the systems of an entire alien space station, which ended up deciding the fate of 1/4 of a Galaxy.
The man went into battle at the head of entire federation fleets, fought and drank with the future High Chancellor of the Klingon Empire, and at the end of all his suffering became a professor of engineering at Starfleet Academy.
The man may have suffered as a result of his career choices but he did alright in the end.
@MDE_never_dies
I adore O'Brien. Got his action figure from DS9 hanging on my wall because he's awesome. The one with his sleeves rolled up. He's a damn hero. Miles Edward O'Brien. Starfleet's best.
Harry Kim has Chief O'Brien beat, though. He had the chief's knack for suffering, Worf's awful luck in love, Data's lack of promotion, and every show where they tried to even give him a higher rank wound up ending before they could.
They even killed him at one point! Of course they then ported in an alternate universe version of him, but still
@@kevlonk True. Of course, Janeway died 17 times, so I'm not exactly holding that against them.
@@oddish4352she was also a murderer though. Hard to forgive the cold blooded murder of Tuvik
@@PatGunn And pretty much everyone except the Doctor was complicit. That was an ugly scene, to be sure.
@@oddish4352Even the doctor was complicit, he still prepared and gave Janeway the spray. The only way you could argue he wasn’t would be by saying that his programming at that point still required him to follow orders. 7, Neelix and Tuvok are the only guilt free ones because they weren’t there
“O’Brien must suffer.” 😅
Georgi also had the hardest problems. It's the engineers.
The private pain of Miles O'Brien
What a great answer though kudos to O'Brian
Great actor, great character. Miles really did get it bad, from the multitude of times he hurt his elbow kayaking in the holodeck with no safeties, being forced to live a decades long jail sentence in a dungeon in a direct brain simulation (Think about that. He still has those memories...IT STILL FEELS LIKE IT HAPPENED TO HIM), having one of his kid stuck in a time hole, all that. But worse of all, married to Keiko. Hey hey hey, don't argue. She insulted the man's mother's cooking for god's sake! She was always going on about flowers while he just wanted to go have a pint and throw darts with his mate. Or play WWI flying ace rpg, whatever.
I think Chief Obrien is the most underrated character in the whole Star Trek series. He's been in half of the TNG episodes including both the pilot episode and finale. He's been in all the DS9 episodes. Why wasn't he in the movies? In the movie First contact, it was funny that the Enterprise recued the Defiant and Worf was the only known character on board. They should've put Obrien in there and maybe Bashir and Dax. Even if they play small parts.
Dublin draaaaal -
''Glass jaw?! No wonder de wear helmets''!
Miles was the Wayoun of the good guys in DS9
Maybe they kept torturing you because they realized you were a good actor and your torture scenes came out GREAT!
My favorite deep space 9 guy
The tbing about O'Brien is that it wasn't actually unique to his character... it just SEEMED that way because of the type of character he was.
With the nature of episodic television, bad things happened to characters a lot. Everyone went through a lot of hardships in Deep Space Nine. It wasn't just O'Brien.
It stands out so much more for him - and comes off a lot more brutal - specifically BECAUSE his character was such a grounded everyman person.
Think about your cast, who else do you torture? Sisco? He suffered a lot already. Dax? Hell no. Worf? He'd just smile. Kira? She suffered war, genocide, occupation.... where do you go from there? They didn't even torture ferenghi much because they're too childlike.
It's like yer Da given the mike after 4 pints havin won 50 euro off Gul Dukat in the Leinster minors.
Excuse me?
What a career
Wasn’t just DS9 anyway 😂
O'Brien must suffer.
A Noncom getting the raw end of the deal?!?!? Bah, that's just propaganda!
Is it some sort of subtle Colm Meaney diss that this appears to be filmed on a potato?
No one talks about his REAL abuse, being around keiko so much. She is the one who really abused him
Fuck keiko. Nagging bitch
yup
I never understood why the writers didn't give them better chemistry or at least less episodes with them fighting. We never really saw them having a normal relationship.
He thought he was marrying a Japanese woman and got tricked!
And a kid who hates his guts, even after he rescued her from being stuck on a planet after she ran away having a tantrum. God I hated that kid
Aside from the goofy replicant episode where he was in bizarro world until they botch it in the cave and expect the audience to think it was bizarro O'Brien, his second ST gig treated him much better as an actor. NG always casted him like a probationary character and acted like they didn't on the last episode after he secured a better job. Keiko sucked, but she wasn't really Japanese anyway.
RIP Colm. I wish we could have had more interactions where he's just himself.
wtf he's alive
Hes still alive. I did not need this shock
RIP Colm Meaney 1953 - 2025
@@supsick FFS he's still alive.
That female asking the questions to Mr. Meaney appeared to be highly nervous and unsure what she really wanted to ask him.
* Her 5 minutes claim to fame, blown. Now that funny you just know it. ☺
She has that annoying TikTok voice...