Hi Nils - I enjoy your channel - even though I am a kitesurfer because I really like your stories from my favorite spot in Europe. I think it is very good that you appeal to looking out for each other and do not go into the usual kitesurfer bashing that some people are still cultivating. Of course I cannot judge the real danger here - not being in Tarifa - but people jumping 50 to 70m is not realistic unless you were on the water with professional kitesurfers. So the fear of windsurfers seems to be overexagurated at times. On the other hand I have to agree that a lot of surfers are taking too high risks - unfortunately with kitesurfers taking up more space and therefore increasing the risks to others. I had a lot of great experiences with windsurfers: Once being rescued by on in Tarifa when my kite deflated due to a broken valve. On the other hand I helped to rescue a windsurfer whose mast broke far offshore on another occasion. So let's enjoy the water together and give each other space. Enjoy Tarifa :-)
Nice Video! And about inexperienced Kiters..now they are schooling all over at the beaches and they even put their lines all over our gear without even saying sorry. Really weird sometimes, because on the one side you don’t want to become mad at someone who is simply not that experienced at their sport, but on the other side they are seriously putting others in danger and take SOOOO much space. Let’s hope the beginners switch to winging..😂🤙🏽
Had the same last summer in La Franqui, kite schools coming out to the speedbeach where there is 20-30kts offshore and start teaching people how to kite there, of course ruining the spot for everyone else 🙄 why not just teach them on the etang where there is enough space and it's safe to learn...
I also had many such experiences. My main time windsurfing in Tarifa was in the second half of the 90s. No kiters there. That was paradise! It was a hostile takeover of our spots! We should conquer them back!✊
Great videos Nils,, I am an experienced kiter and yes I agree. You should always look around and make sure it is safe to jump. It's annoying for other kiters also when they dont.
Kitsurfer? Same problems here in northern Germany. Last year i quit several sessions, quite top much of them in the water. And a lot dont know the rules.
Best spot to have a great session with levante in Tarifa. As a windsurfer I completely agree. It has nothing to do with you man! As a kitesurfer the same happens way to often to me. This is somehow the local personality and the reduced space. I'm leaving the spot when there are more than 3-4 people on the water. Or I make a break 🦦 In any case I love this spot when everything fits.
Morgen, das war ja wieder eine mega geile session, ich komme gerade aus dem Wochenendevon Fehmarn zurück das war der komplette rheinfall, 100 m laufen müssen ins Wasser übern Matsch und es war eine strömenden Regen und Sturm man hat nichts gesehen und ich habe darum auch noch nicht mal ausgepackt
Passing windward is something normal and fully authorized in sailing rules since ages and never changed ! But unfortunately so few kiters knows sailing rules basics.
A bit over dramatic music in the beginning where was no drama 🤣 I'm glad there was no real fight between you and kitesurfer. It's wise decision just to go to another spot.
Windsurfer and sailor in the 80s, snowboard and skies in the 90s, and since the 2000s windsurfer and kiter. 😂 The biggest problem, they think, they are alone and there are no rules for them. I prefer to surf with rules and at the end, i have to make move of last moment. And believe me, i and my stuff will have no damage. 😇 In egypt i saw a group of good kiters (they were every day on the water), try to learn rules 😱 They don't know the rules, but they kite since years 🤮😠
Well, I am an old Windsurf-Instructor since 1979 and started Kitesurfing 3 years ago. I understand both sides. The problem are not "the teabaggers" or "the boardsailors", but the young, uneducated "who cares" personalities... Most important for all parties on the water is distance... Keep your distance. I do it, it doesnt matter for me if I loose height, always better that beeing in an accident. I have seen too much... As Kiter and Windsurfer
@@WindsurfingNils It was funny, there ist a guy at Mario, who wrote First and i answered, wrong, Nils was faster 😂 cause your videos was earlier then Marios 😂 You are back in coldness and bleakness? Why are you so silly? 😂
KITER was downwind of you. anytime someone is dpwnwind of you... yield. kiters do this by upwind kiter keeping kite high and dwonwind low. pass behind him or yield not that hard... \ literally like driving a car into the back of someone and being like but he waS going too slow
This will be a problem for teabaggers as their lines are so long they are going to have to stay way way upwind of any downwind windsurfer. Co-existence between the codes at the same spot is a problem so it would have been much better if the kite community had found their own beaches and kept away from all other beach users
While lots of kiters are absolutely fine, there are a few who have an arrogance / stupidity problem. Best to keep well away from those types. Look at the serious accident & fatality rates that kiting has - we don’t want any of their foolish antics to take us out too.
Hi Nils - I enjoy your channel - even though I am a kitesurfer because I really like your stories from my favorite spot in Europe. I think it is very good that you appeal to looking out for each other and do not go into the usual kitesurfer bashing that some people are still cultivating. Of course I cannot judge the real danger here - not being in Tarifa - but people jumping 50 to 70m is not realistic unless you were on the water with professional kitesurfers. So the fear of windsurfers seems to be overexagurated at times. On the other hand I have to agree that a lot of surfers are taking too high risks - unfortunately with kitesurfers taking up more space and therefore increasing the risks to others. I had a lot of great experiences with windsurfers: Once being rescued by on in Tarifa when my kite deflated due to a broken valve. On the other hand I helped to rescue a windsurfer whose mast broke far offshore on another occasion. So let's enjoy the water together and give each other space.
Enjoy Tarifa :-)
Exactly, well said, let's share the ocean and enjoy it together 🤙
Nice Video! And about inexperienced Kiters..now they are schooling all over at the beaches and they even put their lines all over our gear without even saying sorry. Really weird sometimes, because on the one side you don’t want to become mad at someone who is simply not that experienced at their sport, but on the other side they are seriously putting others in danger and take SOOOO much space. Let’s hope the beginners switch to winging..😂🤙🏽
Had the same last summer in La Franqui, kite schools coming out to the speedbeach where there is 20-30kts offshore and start teaching people how to kite there, of course ruining the spot for everyone else 🙄 why not just teach them on the etang where there is enough space and it's safe to learn...
I also had many such experiences. My main time windsurfing in Tarifa was in the second half of the 90s. No kiters there. That was paradise!
It was a hostile takeover of our spots! We should conquer them back!✊
@@WindsurfingNils because of urbanisation next to the Etang, don’t want a Tea bagger flying across the freeway.
"Sometimes it just feels good to shout at someone"😂
I know this ;)
Great videos Nils,, I am an experienced kiter and yes I agree. You should always look around and make sure it is safe to jump. It's annoying for other kiters also when they dont.
Nils, your gybing has improved. Bravo!
Tea bags are a bit of a nuisance, they really take too much space! And many don't have a clue about priority on the water
Great video Nils. Loving your content.
Kite surfers!!
Thanks :)
Love the videos, I also liked the tutorial type videos. Especially focusing on slalom sailing. Keep it up, Thanks!!
thanks, I guess I gotta do some more tutorials :)
That downwinder run was amazing Nils.
Yeah - we all enjoy the same water and wind, so as you say, let's look out for each other. Love a downwinder too- that looked like so much fun :-)
downwinders are great :)
No idea what they are like cause they don’t talk to anybody. Windsurfers usually are happy to chat about conditions and hazards.
I am kitesurfer and believe me kitesurefesr shouts at themselves even more
Kitsurfer? Same problems here in northern Germany.
Last year i quit several sessions, quite top much of them in the water.
And a lot dont know the rules.
to be fair, some windsurfers also don't know the rules ;)
As a rule, teabaggers should always sail when its offshore and should always get separated from their boards...
Best spot to have a great session with levante in Tarifa. As a windsurfer I completely agree. It has nothing to do with you man! As a kitesurfer the same happens way to often to me. This is somehow the local personality and the reduced space. I'm leaving the spot when there are more than 3-4 people on the water. Or I make a break 🦦 In any case I love this spot when everything fits.
what a speeeed.... very cool video 🤙
thanks Stefan
sick runs!
Morgen, das war ja wieder eine mega geile session, ich komme gerade aus dem Wochenendevon Fehmarn zurück das war der komplette rheinfall, 100 m laufen müssen ins Wasser übern Matsch und es war eine strömenden Regen und Sturm man hat nichts gesehen und ich habe darum auch noch nicht mal ausgepackt
Passing windward is something normal and fully authorized in sailing rules since ages and never changed ! But unfortunately so few kiters knows sailing rules basics.
k but why fixed lines bro? pros cons?
i just found the length that works perfectly for me, and in a Race I don't have time to adjust the harness lines anyway...
@@WindsurfingNils fair enough , keep up the good work
Kiten bei ablandigem Wind ist eh bescheuert...
nice vid !
Nee, Kiten ist bescheuert 😂😂 Spaß
A bit over dramatic music in the beginning where was no drama 🤣 I'm glad there was no real fight between you and kitesurfer. It's wise decision just to go to another spot.
Yeah, sometimes i find it hard to find fitting music 😅
Share waves with kiters seems similar to the disputes of cyclist vs. car drivers in traffic...
Or snowboarders and skiers...
Windsurfer and sailor in the 80s, snowboard and skies in the 90s, and since the 2000s windsurfer and kiter. 😂
The biggest problem, they think, they are alone and there are no rules for them.
I prefer to surf with rules and at the end, i have to make move of last moment. And believe me, i and my stuff will have no damage. 😇
In egypt i saw a group of good kiters (they were every day on the water), try to learn rules 😱
They don't know the rules, but they kite since years 🤮😠
Well, I am an old Windsurf-Instructor since 1979 and started Kitesurfing 3 years ago. I understand both sides. The problem are not "the teabaggers" or "the boardsailors", but the young, uneducated "who cares" personalities... Most important for all parties on the water is distance... Keep your distance. I do it, it doesnt matter for me if I loose height, always better that beeing in an accident. I have seen too much... As Kiter and Windsurfer
Nils, you are not dead? We all wait for content. Mario was faster then you 😂
Haha, sry for the long wait, I'm actually back in Germany now, yeah, looks like i missed the best speeddays in Tarifa, next time more luck 🤙
@@WindsurfingNils
It was funny, there ist a guy at Mario, who wrote First and i answered, wrong, Nils was faster 😂 cause your videos was earlier then Marios 😂
You are back in coldness and bleakness? Why are you so silly? 😂
Kiters seem to think they’re royalty. They do what they want, when they want, and get mad when someone else is in their newfound territory.
I've never met an idiot windsurfer, but met plenty of idiot kiters, switched back to windsurfing partly because of this (and the danger aspect)
beware of the offshore kiters, they are reckless
Well not all if them, but seems to be certain individuals 😉
Die Kiter sind echt so mega nervig! Beim freestylen sind sie auch einfach jedes Mal im Weg😴🙄
Ruiniert einem den ganzen spot 🙄
KITER was downwind of you. anytime someone is dpwnwind of you... yield. kiters do this by upwind kiter keeping kite high and dwonwind low. pass behind him or yield not that hard...
\ literally like driving a car into the back of someone and being like but he waS going too slow
This will be a problem for teabaggers as their lines are so long they are going to have to stay way way upwind of any downwind windsurfer. Co-existence between the codes at the same spot is a problem so it would have been much better if the kite community had found their own beaches and kept away from all other beach users
@@MrSmithy888 so glad to have never ran into a windsurfer like you we happily and safely coexist at my home spot. Jeez
While lots of kiters are absolutely fine, there are a few who have an arrogance / stupidity problem. Best to keep well away from those types. Look at the serious accident & fatality rates that kiting has - we don’t want any of their foolish antics to take us out too.
Yes it's always a few individuals who cause problems...