Having the Cubans here is testimony to what has become of this country as a whole. Eskom, from been a net exporter of electricity to the broken mess that it is today, from a country that had engineering expertise that build it's own ships, produced and designed some of the best attack helicopters in the world. World leaders in mining technology. But then again look what is ruling this country. it has taken 20 odd years but we have now truly become a one with the rest of Africa. Via ANC
How on earth did we end up in such a situation? It is shocking to say the least. Worst of all is that we had to get whites from cuba to come and help us... Its really heart breaking to see this once great country in such a sad state.
Instead of employing the Cubans to fix up the SAMIL, how about asking those who licensed/sold South Aftica the technologies in the first place? These are mostly of German origin, so maybe asking companies like IVECO, Deutz AG and even Daimler AG would be the most sensible thing to do to get them running for a few more decades.
those companies come to south africa for business not giving training and skills, they dont give all the information needed for a country to be independent
Why don't they employ former SADF members who specialized in warfare from 1966 untill 1994? At least those people knew how to repair and maintain their equipment.
i think it may be because those people are white and South Africa seems to be trying to limit the number of whites in their military and government. sounds like reverse racism...
Arno Greyling because there is no need. We aren't in a war or expecting to be in one anytime soon. If that were the case, then I think they would have done that by now.
The entire SANDF, has subsided into absolute decline. Everything from basic kit for soldiers, to advanced combat equipment. It’s all good and well, getting Cubans to come and repair vehicles, but what about the 3 damaged and unserviceable submarines? It is a sad state of affairs to say the least.
It is good to see our government working with Cuba in this way..Thank you Cuba for the training and assisting the South African army to be in tip top shape.
Dream on Aviwe Yantolo, the Angolan war was totally dominated by the South African Defense Force. The only time when the S.A.D.F, had to take cover, was when the Russian Mig aircraft were superior to the Mirages that we had, but even then we achieved victories at times against the Migs. The Cubans were suffering heavily during the war in Namibia and suffered many losses. The main fact, however, was that the SADF was much more proficient than the SANDF ever were. You just have to look at the National Armed Forces Day of 2019 to observe the total incompetence by comparison to foreign forces. The SADF was ranked third in the entire world after evaluations were monitored just shortly before the first democratic election of 1994, by foreign judges.
@@LindoMtsweni Lucky u dear , I met all the requirements for being a Pilot but haven't gotten any response ... I called but they said there is a backlog for pilots and navigators so I'm still hoping that I'll be accepted. But this was a great opportunity for u especially the Navy ... Just wish u took this opportunity dear .
a Slap in the face of any old Tiffy, who could repair the vehicles,,, we repaired and manufactured our own, now clowns called generals run a circus , GhmF!
lol ...Havanna taxis come to mind ;) Yeah, the Cubans are technical professionals; why didn't we check that earlier... we've been losing out all this time, oh gosh!!
fixing the starter motor... a line item??? Probably rewiring the rotor.... My friends is Switzerland are smiling.... Is the SANDF a kind of a hobby organisation, like the voluntary fire brigade, they ask??A bit more objective reporting from Ndivho could have ensured that Amo watched to end ;)
Felt the same ....and a bit of "cringe and shame"....to see this once incredible fighting force on its backside.....embarrassing.....fok my everything is FUBAR!
Well for a Cuban working and maintaining a 60 year old russian Lada taxi, for the Cubans they must find these vehicles so advanced. Plus the irony that Cuba murdered too many innocent SADF men in Angola in the 80's Now they are friends.
The Cubans are very well trained and I think they can help repair our older equipment but probably aren’t the most up to date with repairing more modern equipment.But I still think the Cubans coming is a good idea as we don’t have modern equipment and don’t really need to the most up to date stuff to defend SA.
I recently wanted to see what it consisted of, so i signed up, and i am glad i canceled, i signed up at the beginning of Jan 2019, so the first thing i did was phone get some details, they pick you up at a mall or taxi rank or somewhere major in your area. Then aparently you go to base and they do all the tests and what not there, if you fail you get send home, i had to pay R600 of which i did not get back at all for my seat on said bus. They asked if i had tattoos i said yes, but it is small and hidden. So they came up with the idea getting me past the assment via the right documentation to make the assesor aware i have a tat. So the recruiter wanted me to pay him for the effort of putting together these documents to get me through as the SANDF has rules, like any military, but or course such things do not apply in ZA. Basically the guy wanted me to bribe him to get me in. Who is to say they dont ask for bribes of others? Except bribes to let anyone in? Hell Bribes to let people in with diseases like AIDs? Being a white person i knew i might be extorted later on, because of course the assumtion is that white people are rich. So no right there my alarms went off and im glad i dropped it. It pains me greatly, i was born to be a soldier, i feel it in my bones, i already have skills in many fields gained over the years, i can run circles around any SANDF soldier. Yet here i am, no means of doing what im good at or have always wanted to be. Its not even that big of a deal joining a military. I can only continue on my journey in search of a way that i can get into some form of military organization. Society is far to dull and not at all where fit in or want to fit in.
This video does not reflect the fact that we build and maintain these vehicles in the time that there was an arms embargo against us. So does this mean that the Cubans secretly sneak into South Africa to help us during those times? Maybe the real facts are that the SADF does not want to employ the skills already in South Africa?
we need these guys to fix the navy vechiels. you send a sprinter out to get fixed it comes back and then with in a year some thing breaks down. these out side guys are ripping the SANDF off.
.....from a once leading and superior fighting force in the world......can't believe how many "fat cats" in superior roles....and weird that the SADF now needs technical support from Cuba of all places......has South Africa fallen so far down the "intelligence/competence" scale...tsk tsk....you would have thought they would turn to the US or other serious fighting forces such as the Isreali's etc
Our defense for has gone to shit because our dumb fucking president spends all the money on the wrong things and when somother country wants to attack us he will be caught sleeping on his dumb fat ass and will probably try to run from the situation, we need an educated president that knows what he is doing, or else this country is going to end up like zimbabwe
I don't recall this being a problem prior to 1994. Quite the opposite, I though our equipment was pretty well maintained. But is seems we got rid of that capability and then, years later, had to bring in Cubans to do something we were fully capable of doing in the past? That's a special kind of stupid isn't it?
Il Sud Africa potrebbe essere come gli Stai Uniti d'America. Con l' industria cinematografica fare film sull' aparthaid e su personaggi che hanno combattuto per la libertà del paese bianchi neri gialli indiani ecc. Esportare il mandelismo e la libertà nel continente combattendo il terrorismo e potenziando le forze nazionali di difesa in salsa americana
SANDf we love u and proud of u . U are doing a great job to protect us and our borders .this is a great combination ever hopefully we will get there. Yahweh bless africa. If u don't like what african do or cam do leave them in peace go back to ur native land
Loep naai ons ken daai produk kubane se ma ons was champions op tiffies kant van ons manne sit sonder iets maar moer maar aan ons sa n lewe maak hoop julle en kubane fok alles op julle kry dit kla reg
To all whites with negative energy please note apartheid is over, we don't care how good they were, slowly but we will breakthrough. With or without you. Anyway you just bunch of critics making no positive impact in the current epoch. This is our SANDF we are proud of them.
Wow SANDF is a joke compared to SADF. Here's a comparison between this documentary and the one FROM THE 80s about SADF SANDF: We rely on Cuba. reason: they have high literacy rate (any country has that now) SADF: All the equipment made in South Africa and they were fighting the Cubans. Check out the documentary: th-cam.com/video/7zoBBYQZEAk/w-d-xo.html
Abdulla Alkhoori wallah it’s true brother the level has dropped drastically..... SADF was once number one ☝️ in Africa but now SANDF is in the top 5 apparently.....
This is black man land from Cape to north....not for Boer farmers settlers, the black fully majority or the indigenous people cute or not cute let them precide over the affairs of their land.....why not advise the boer settlers to just go back to Europe or Holland, the land of their ancestors than struggling with the natives....now the evil apartheid is completely erased
@@clementoweh3463 There's no going "back" to a country you never set foot in, that isn't your home, and that won't let you in anyway because to them you're a foreigner. South Africa is their home. Get over your racist prejudices and deal with it.
@@mosalethoba5267 How can people go "back" to Holland if they've never been there? And who's racist here anyway besides you, for assuming that, based on nothing but their skin colour, that any Boer farmer is racist?
@@clementoweh3463ook at South Africa, until 1994 it was the biggest economy of Africa and had the strongest Army on the continent. Also until 1994 there were no electricity shortages, no water scarcities and also crime was low (Kaapstad/Captown was so safe that you could even be outside during night time). Today, after 28 years of Black ANC rule, the country is in an economic depression, crime has gotten out of hand, electricity is only available at 10 hours per day and the Army is a pice of shit, which couldn’t even conquer Namibia! Now South Africa is African, its a failure like all the other African nations, like Zimbabwe, Moçambique, Angola, the Congo, the Central African Republic, Liberia, Sierra Leone, Libya and Mali, as well as the rest!
So funny … how do they think the SADF kept these fleets serviceable, well maintained and operational on combat operations in SWA and Angola… whilst fighting the Cubans … they certainly didn’t use the Cubans haha. The new SANDF can’t even look after it’s own fleet without importing Cubans who know nothing about looking after SADF and western based equipment … they only used Russian equipment haha 😂 hilarious. “A team of “specialists” haha from the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Cuba … haha mechanics. Cubans aren’t known as great engineers… they haven’t produced anything revolutionary in engineering haha. Such a load of nonsense propaganda.
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If South Africa has so many unemployed people why don’t we train them to become workers for the SANDF
Exactly
Try listening to the video again, the private sector kept them mobile. Now they use Cubans.
Their corruption will be exposed like it has been in the latest news
Unbelievable how low IQ can destroy a once viberant army.
ItIsLuke it's because they don't promote it that much they should promote it at school and bring back military schools since some where stopped
Having the Cubans here is testimony to what has become of this country as a whole. Eskom, from been a net exporter of electricity to the broken mess that it is today, from a country that had engineering expertise that build it's own ships, produced and designed some of the best attack helicopters in the world. World leaders in mining technology. But then again look what is ruling this country. it has taken 20 odd years but we have now truly become a one with the rest of Africa.
Via ANC
How on earth did we end up in such a situation? It is shocking to say the least. Worst of all is that we had to get whites from cuba to come and help us... Its really heart breaking to see this once great country in such a sad state.
because you lost the bush war and gave up while u were in controll of a super power... who does that
can't wait to study in the naval college even though I won't be working for the army but the navy😊
Palesa Là Rosé wow good luck
Good luck
Instead of employing the Cubans to fix up the SAMIL, how about asking those who licensed/sold South Aftica the technologies in the first place? These are mostly of German origin, so maybe asking companies like IVECO, Deutz AG and even Daimler AG would be the most sensible thing to do to get them running for a few more decades.
egalf No such thing as a free lunch. The companies would probably ask us to give them something in return.
those companies come to south africa for business not giving training and skills, they dont give all the information needed for a country to be independent
@@lukejones2363 Then what is SA giving Cuba in return for doing the job?
Why don't they employ former SADF members who specialized in warfare from 1966 untill 1994? At least those people knew how to repair and maintain their equipment.
i think it may be because those people are white and South Africa seems to be trying to limit the number of whites in their military and government. sounds like reverse racism...
Arno Greyling because there is no need. We aren't in a war or expecting to be in one anytime soon. If that were the case, then I think they would have done that by now.
😂😂😂😂good idea but due to politics wouldve never happened
@@shelory you think? Your white farmers are being murdered and slaughtered the blacks have such hatred for you.
Cause they are too old dumbass
The entire SANDF, has subsided into absolute decline. Everything from basic kit for soldiers, to advanced combat equipment. It’s all good and well, getting Cubans to come and repair vehicles, but what about the 3 damaged and unserviceable submarines? It is a sad state of affairs to say the least.
Peter Radloff shocking
It is good to see our government working with Cuba in this way..Thank you Cuba for the training and assisting the South African army to be in tip top shape.
idiot
VRY TRUE!!!!!!
Why do you insult me? Have I offended?
SADF kick Cuba bum in the Bush War....they good as the anc....USELESS RUBBISH COMMIES
Our communities are full of youngsters who can be taken away from the street corners to join military force and protect our country.
So depressing...
Dream on Aviwe Yantolo, the Angolan war was totally dominated by the South African Defense Force. The only time when the S.A.D.F, had to take cover, was when the Russian Mig aircraft were superior to the Mirages that we had, but even then we achieved victories at times against the Migs. The Cubans were suffering heavily during the war in Namibia and suffered many losses. The main fact, however, was that the SADF was much more proficient than the SANDF ever were. You just have to look at the National Armed Forces Day of 2019 to observe the total incompetence by comparison to foreign forces. The SADF was ranked third in the entire world after evaluations were monitored just shortly before the first democratic election of 1994, by foreign judges.
@Wonder Boy this is exactly the kind of reply one can receive from an uninformed person with limited secondary school education only
Why what happened to all the maintenance crews they have befor
Probly sacked them all because they white
Yep and now they have a very limited military
Thanks
We used to have one of the best military forces in the world... Now look where we are
Great staff so nice
The negativity of white South African in the comments section is sickening.
Very much my friend.
Well, are you surprised? They grew up in a time when the SADF could maintain and repair its equipment itself.
it just sucks seeing a country that promised so much be so hopeless
Building self reliance and less dependencies. It's an anathema to corporations. What's to dislike ... go figure.
SANDF are pushing looks over there , its lit ne!!
Oh well atleast the USMC and FFL are open to foreigners
Thapelo Phemelo the usmc is shit tho I know I was one they pay private contractors aswell to fix vehicles aswell
The USMC has high standards to join. A person that is just looking for a paycheck will not survive.
I have sent my applications...I hope they take me
I've also applied... Have they sent a response?
I've also applied... Have they sent a response?
@@olwethusithole5587 to me yes, I was invited to come to selection programme for NAVY ...but since I will still be a student next year...I didn't go
@@LindoMtsweni Lucky u dear , I met all the requirements for being a Pilot but haven't gotten any response ... I called but they said there is a backlog for pilots and navigators so I'm still hoping that I'll be accepted.
But this was a great opportunity for u especially the Navy ... Just wish u took this opportunity dear .
@@LindoMtsweni And when exactly did they respond?
Cuba 🤣😂how the mighty has fallen.
a Slap in the face of any old Tiffy, who could repair the vehicles,,, we repaired and manufactured our own, now clowns called generals run a circus , GhmF!
Why so many people hating on the government doing something to improve our military operational readiness 🤯
Because they fuck it up so now we need cubans to fix it
call me a stupid millennial but wasnt the bush/border war fought again Angolan/ Cuban forces?
Jup
I think this is the best word salad Ive ever seen in my life. Lmao
🤣🤣🤣✌
It gets worse... I could only watch until 6:28. What has this country become?
lol ...Havanna taxis come to mind ;) Yeah, the Cubans are technical professionals; why didn't we check that earlier... we've been losing out all this time, oh gosh!!
fixing the starter motor... a line item??? Probably rewiring the rotor.... My friends is Switzerland are smiling.... Is the SANDF a kind of a hobby organisation, like the voluntary fire brigade, they ask??A bit more objective reporting from Ndivho could have ensured that Amo watched to end ;)
Felt the same ....and a bit of "cringe and shame"....to see this once incredible fighting force on its backside.....embarrassing.....fok my everything is FUBAR!
Just more wastage of tax payer's money to support people achieving absolutely nothing of value.
Well for a Cuban working and maintaining a 60 year old russian Lada taxi, for the Cubans they must find these vehicles so advanced.
Plus the irony that Cuba murdered too many innocent SADF men in Angola in the 80's
Now they are friends.
The only good thing about the SANDF is the Special Forces element, unless we get a better and bigger budget the SANDF isn't going anywhere.
....but they HAD a competent Armed Forces.....
The Cubans are very well trained and I think they can help repair our older equipment but probably aren’t the most up to date with repairing more modern equipment.But I still think the Cubans coming is a good idea as we don’t have modern equipment and don’t really need to
the most up to date stuff to defend SA.
waking with the cubans , yes waking...
Het die kaljante nie gesien wat ons ou weermag met Cuba gedoen het in die 80's nie? Kerels hierdie gaan pret wees.
Lyk nie vir my of julle veel reggekry het as hulle nou welkom is in Suid Africa.
@Wonder Boy How can he go "back" to a country he's never set foot in?
Its sad that south Africa army can't priduise wehicles orr up keep our self
Wtf we waged war against the cubens in the anglo war!!!!
South African defensa forces decrease power
I recently wanted to see what it consisted of, so i signed up, and i am glad i canceled, i signed up at the beginning of Jan 2019, so the first thing i did was phone get some details, they pick you up at a mall or taxi rank or somewhere major in your area. Then aparently you go to base and they do all the tests and what not there, if you fail you get send home, i had to pay R600 of which i did not get back at all for my seat on said bus. They asked if i had tattoos i said yes, but it is small and hidden. So they came up with the idea getting me past the assment via the right documentation to make the assesor aware i have a tat. So the recruiter wanted me to pay him for the effort of putting together these documents to get me through as the SANDF has rules, like any military, but or course such things do not apply in ZA. Basically the guy wanted me to bribe him to get me in. Who is to say they dont ask for bribes of others? Except bribes to let anyone in? Hell Bribes to let people in with diseases like AIDs? Being a white person i knew i might be extorted later on, because of course the assumtion is that white people are rich. So no right there my alarms went off and im glad i dropped it.
It pains me greatly, i was born to be a soldier, i feel it in my bones, i already have skills in many fields gained over the years, i can run circles around any SANDF soldier. Yet here i am, no means of doing what im good at or have always wanted to be. Its not even that big of a deal joining a military. I can only continue on my journey in search of a way that i can get into some form of military organization. Society is far to dull and not at all where fit in or want to fit in.
Join up with one off the Scottish regiments that's what my son and 2 nephews did
How about the french foreign legion
This video does not reflect the fact that we build and maintain these vehicles in the time that there was an arms embargo against us. So does this mean that the Cubans secretly sneak into South Africa to help us during those times? Maybe the real facts are that the SADF does not want to employ the skills already in South Africa?
Yes, this is what happens when you got rid of ALL THE SKILLED PEOPLE !!!!!! Now you sit with shit
Cuba?
Ww3 is coming soon are you ready guys?
we need these guys to fix the navy vechiels. you send a sprinter out to get fixed it comes back and then with in a year some thing breaks down. these out side guys are ripping the SANDF off.
.....from a once leading and superior fighting force in the world......can't believe how many "fat cats" in superior roles....and weird that the SADF now needs technical support from Cuba of all places......has South Africa fallen so far down the "intelligence/competence" scale...tsk tsk....you would have thought they would turn to the US or other serious fighting forces such as the Isreali's etc
Not SADF. SANDF
Lol those cubans whipped you like pussies in angola 35yrs back
Our defense for has gone to shit because our dumb fucking president spends all the money on the wrong things and when somother country wants to attack us he will be caught sleeping on his dumb fat ass and will probably try to run from the situation, we need an educated president that knows what he is doing, or else this country is going to end up like zimbabwe
These guys are a joke Cuba ? That are 30 years behind every other modern military
What? Only 30?
@Wonder Boy Wonder Boy is a BEE
The whole point of getting the Cubans here is that they know how to keep their 30 yr old equipment operational.
This documentary was made a long time ago, canr u see the quality and the vehicles they're driving
When r we building our nuclear bombs again
Black over achievement at work here.............. high IQ's south african only means we'll be living in space shortly.
In fact-- what a joke- a black out - ha ha
I don't recall this being a problem prior to 1994. Quite the opposite, I though our equipment was pretty well maintained. But is seems we got rid of that capability and then, years later, had to bring in Cubans to do something we were fully capable of doing in the past? That's a special kind of stupid isn't it?
Il Sud Africa potrebbe essere come gli Stai Uniti d'America.
Con l' industria cinematografica fare film sull' aparthaid e su personaggi che hanno combattuto per la libertà del paese bianchi neri gialli indiani ecc. Esportare il mandelismo e la libertà nel continente combattendo il terrorismo e potenziando le forze nazionali di difesa in salsa americana
I didn't see any Cubans.... maby they were smokin somewhere outside.
SANDf we love u and proud of u . U are doing a great job to protect us and our borders .this is a great combination ever hopefully we will get there. Yahweh bless africa. If u don't like what african do or cam do leave them in peace go back to ur native land
HaHa ...SANDF the SHAME of AFRICA ...I know im a SADF VETERAN
Loep naai ons ken daai produk kubane se ma ons was champions op tiffies kant van ons manne sit sonder iets maar moer maar aan ons sa n lewe maak hoop julle en kubane fok alles op julle kry dit kla reg
What a disgrace
To all whites with negative energy please note apartheid is over, we don't care how good they were, slowly but we will breakthrough. With or without you. Anyway you just bunch of critics making no positive impact in the current epoch. This is our SANDF we are proud of them.
Thats what Zimbabwe, angola, nigeria, and the rest of africa said
И это армия ЮАР?? Какой ужас!!!!
Bull
good job will be done by SNDF!
HaHa...Like every thing the anc touch ....They make a mess...SA had a great army the SADF i know i was there
what a joke, putting dirt in the faces of the former sadf members that fought against them
Log general you are talking kak
Wow SANDF is a joke compared to SADF. Here's a comparison between this documentary and the one FROM THE 80s about SADF
SANDF: We rely on Cuba. reason: they have high literacy rate (any country has that now)
SADF: All the equipment made in South Africa and they were fighting the Cubans. Check out the documentary: th-cam.com/video/7zoBBYQZEAk/w-d-xo.html
Abdulla Alkhoori wallah it’s true brother the level has dropped drastically..... SADF was once number one ☝️ in Africa but now SANDF is in the top 5 apparently.....
Pathetic, no really just pathetic. Needs Cubans to service South African designed armored vehicles.
The white soldiers look credible but the others, not so much.
This is black man land from Cape to north....not for Boer farmers settlers, the black fully majority or the indigenous people cute or not cute let them precide over the affairs of their land.....why not advise the boer settlers to just go back to Europe or Holland, the land of their ancestors than struggling with the natives....now the evil apartheid is completely erased
@@clementoweh3463 There's no going "back" to a country you never set foot in, that isn't your home, and that won't let you in anyway because to them you're a foreigner. South Africa is their home. Get over your racist prejudices and deal with it.
@@bpj1805 then they must learn to throw away their racism if they don't want to go back to Holland .
@@mosalethoba5267 How can people go "back" to Holland if they've never been there? And who's racist here anyway besides you, for assuming that, based on nothing but their skin colour, that any Boer farmer is racist?
@@clementoweh3463ook at South Africa, until 1994 it was the biggest economy of Africa and had the strongest Army on the continent.
Also until 1994 there were no electricity shortages, no water scarcities and also crime was low (Kaapstad/Captown was so safe that you could even be outside during night time).
Today, after 28 years of Black ANC rule, the country is in an economic depression, crime has gotten out of hand, electricity is only available at 10 hours per day and the Army is a pice of shit, which couldn’t even conquer Namibia!
Now South Africa is African, its a failure like all the other African nations, like Zimbabwe, Moçambique, Angola, the Congo, the Central African Republic, Liberia, Sierra Leone, Libya and Mali, as well as the rest!
What a joke........
Shows us how useless our crowd are
So funny … how do they think the SADF kept these fleets serviceable, well maintained and operational on combat operations in SWA and Angola… whilst fighting the Cubans … they certainly didn’t use the Cubans haha. The new SANDF can’t even look after it’s own fleet without importing Cubans who know nothing about looking after SADF and western based equipment … they only used Russian equipment haha 😂 hilarious. “A team of “specialists” haha from the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Cuba … haha mechanics. Cubans aren’t known as great engineers… they haven’t produced anything revolutionary in engineering haha. Such a load of nonsense propaganda.
This is a complete joke