Players who are actually playing these games need to be educated right there and then to pull them off these games. I have personally done this when in casinos. We need to cut into casino profits by pulling players off CSM and 6-5 games.
Unfortunately, most gamblers are stupid! Gamblers either know too much or are totally naive. Not too many players are in between, except for larger betting players.
@@ianandersen265 we’ve got to try. I’ve been successful getting players off these awful blackjack games. If we don’t, then the games continue to get worse as time passes. Join me in making those casinos pay. Eat away casino profits.
It's not just 6:5 that needs eradicated - it's H17. Pennsylvania's state-mandated ruleset (3:2 S17 DA2 DAS LS) needs to be the STARTING POINT, not the end goal. They still have 0.36% house edge on a 6D game - there's no reason that can't get lower. We should be looking to Treasure Island as a fair goal - the PA ruleset, where either you give up surrender and it's a double deck game, or you concede it being a 6D game but you also get resplitting Aces up to 4 hands.
No, but education has spread more than ever (thanks to channels like this) and people are more aware. When 6:5 started popping up, I tried explaining the simple math behind it's inferior play to people...and I would say half didn't even want to hear it.
Literally just keep walking past any CSM or 6:5 tables. If nobody plays them, they will remove them. Yes, time is money but so is space games take up on the floor. Games that don't get play, don't stay!
Around 6 months ago, while sitting at a Mississippi Stud table, the machine kept locking up. While waiting for a replacement, the dealer talked about how the machine can sort the cards back into numerical order. So, if it can put them in order, it can certainly arrange them in any other specific order.
While you're not wrong that the software is there, there's no way to account for how many people are at the table, which constantly fluctuates and would change the distribution of the cards. Add in the completely normal scenario of a recreational player not making the book move (hitting when they should stay/doubling a hand they shouldn't/etc) and it would mess up the order entirely. It would be borderline impossible to rig the deck with all of those variables. Finally, it's just not worth it. The game already has a house advantage. It would be exceptionally stupid to rig it even more and risk getting shut down and face criminal charges.
@@mscolli3 maybe. Not entirely familiar with that game but again wouldn’t fluctuating players change the cards? And again, why rig a game that’s already in the house’s favor?
A CSM table *_could_* be used to increase the house edge if a dealer is counting cards. For example, at the start of the shoe, if the count is positive: the dealer puts the discards back in the machine. If the count is negative at the start of a shoe, the dealer deals a few more rounds before putting discards back into the machine. This is known as "preferential shuffling" in handheld & shoe games.
where I work we have like 4 csm tables and we put the cards back after every round, and dealers don't count cards man, we look for cheating, counting chips and card values, no time for counting cards...
Whenever I go to a casino for the first time and see that it's either 6:5 or CSM blackjack, I leave a negative Google review for the casino calling out their terrible scam blackjack game in the hopes others will do the same and shame the casino into changing it back to proper blackjack (probably not going to happen I know but gotta do my part)
At the lower bet minimums, 6:5 is pretty much the standard. Except at very high minimums ($100+), hit soft 17 (H17) is pretty much universal these days. I don't see things changing any time soon. The next thing casinos will do to increase the edge will be *_mandatory side bets,_* which is already being done at Binion's and Golden Nugget, from what I know.
@@djm5687 Easy solution, Every 10 minutes or so, sit out 2 or 3 hands to get the same benefit as changing a shoe with ASM or 4 or 5 hands if you want the same benefit as a hand shuffle. if someone questions you, just say you want to change the flow of the cards. As for me, I like the pace of a shoe with an ASM. Hand shuffles take way too long unless you want a bathroom break.
My local casino all BJ tables using CSMs and the worst part is the dealer send all the cards back to the machine at every end of a round, mean all cards will be in the CSMs every round.
@ make sure nobody plays blackjack in Vienna. You absolutely must pull all players off the blackjack games in the act of playing by educating them. This is what I do whenever I’m in a casino. If nobody plays these awful blackjack games, the casino makes nothing and will go bankrupt or offer more player friendly blackjack games once again. The players are in charge. The players have the money. The players can choose to play or not to play. That’s the player advantage. The casino doesn’t have the money. So get these players off these games and tell all your colleagues to do the same.
I’m 53 and been playing since I was 21. During my 20-30’s, I experienced phenomenal nights starting at a low amount of $ and leaving 10-30X my entry level stack. Since I’ve played with auto shufflers in the last decade, I’ve never had a crazy good night. It could be simply anecdotal but my days of long ago haven’t been realized in years…
@@StefanReich you don't have to be a card counter to see how a shuffle machine consistently pumps out terrible hands. At least with a shoe there's an expectation after lots of small cards that some bigger ones are coming down the line. This might not ever happen when you're on the receiving end of a shuffle machine. Combine that with 6/5 and other terrible rules and you feel like your slowly getting stabbed.
They are only worse for counters. It’s superstition to think they make things worse as a non-counting player. You’re not any more likely to lose, you just can’t tell when you have the advantage (which is the point of counting)
The CSMs are usually leased, as well as the standard auto shuffler machines. My local said the cost is too high and just stay with hand shuffle. I played a CSM table a couple times. Once i figured out an advantage, but that was partly the dealer going through a whole deck before shoving it back into the shuffler.
@@chasekrank you can help others who are playing these awful blackjack games by educating them and pulling them off the tables. Cut into casino profits. We all must do this. A few isn’t enough. We must get all players off these games and the continuous shuffle machine will quietly disappear.
I’ve played on a shuffling machine while waiting for a friend the machine worked in my favour this time and kept giving me blackjacks loads and I ended up from £200-£1000 in about 40 minutes but I would not chose to play them over a real shoe even know I don’t count
You just got lucky. Not the same as being able to count. I've profited playing at a casino with shuffle machines too, I've also profited at the dreaded 6:5 tables, doesn't mean that inherently you can gain an advantage in either situation.
@@MediumDSpeaks yeah I’m not saying I think it’s the same but just had a lucky night! Obviously I’m the long run it is one amazing money earner for them but I don’t use them often at all
I don't know if they can be rigged or not, but they sure do have a way of defying the expected odds of probability. I have never seen so many of the same cards come out back to back to back-to-back to back back.
I don't understand why casinos who hate advantage players so much don't just... Not offer games where players can win. There's nothing *forcing* these casinos to offer blackjack, but when someone just plays well they get upset that you're playing the game.
They don't believe in fairness. They can still make money by offering beatable games to stupid players. In fact, some casinos even harass advantage players whose advantage is over other players instead of over the casino.
Blackjack is such a cultural staple of casinos that not offering it would be bizarre to people and would cause a lot of complaints. It would be like a casino without slot machines. So they do feel obligated to offer at least some form of blackjack and compensate for the fact it can be beaten by making the rules as terrible as possible
cause the vast majority of BJ players are suckers and will lose in the long run. It wouldn’t make sense for the casino not to offer a profitable game only because less than 0.1% of their customers are consistent winners. They can just be on the look out for them and ban them when spotted.
@@MrYosssup Even that is pretty silly when you really think about how few profitable APs there are. The time spent training suits to look out for card counters could be better spent in other areas where casinos lose money such as dealer errors. I'd be willing to bet that there are more players trying to past post than there are profitable APs
I first found CSMs in the casino on the cruise ship I was on last October. Sadly, I wasn't playing the high stakes game. But… using basic strategy does definitely work as I managed to break even. It was a bit disappointing, though.
In my local casino in Belgium, they use CSM, with deck penetration of 2 decks, favorable game rules (99.7% basic strategy: surrender except Ace, no hole card, DAS, 1.5:1 5card win, 2:1 6card win, 5:1 7card win). With min €5 max €250 wondering what hourly return I’m getting. Is there a way to calculate that? I have made a simulation program but way too slow to calculate it accurately 🤔 Moreover they give comps (loyalty points and kind of lottery tickets) which is worth around .2% of wagered amount… CSM usually has a buffer of between 10 and 20 cards so when they put back the cards in it, the next hand has to be considered with the last true count but restart counting at zero
Csm can be profitable with very good rules , discounts and comps , the house edge could be negative with the set of rules you described, I wonder if the dealer stands on s17 do you get payed instantly for 6 or 7 cards ?
Hey Collin, I was just recently databased, It was a soft backoff but they referred to me by name and I never gave my ID over to them. I continued along to three other casinos and received a back off at best within 20 minutes of play and at worst while I was buying in. It has to be facial recognition due to how quickly I'm being backed off. Is my advantaged play career over? Is this just a temporary BOLO? If I travel further, will I still be flagged? This really sucks and I regret not being more careful and shortening my secessions.
@@jackringel485 actually csm is just slightly better odds for the player with basic strategy.. simulations say.. but that’s just a fraction of a fraction of a percent %.. dono how it works but that’s what I’ve heard
@@zx6r531 Interesting. Playing with fewer decks is usually slightly better for the player even without counting, so I’d think CSM, which is essentially “infinite decks,” would extrapolate that. Do you have a link showing that it’s better odds?
@@jackringel485 there’s another comment in the comment section that says the same thing I said.. maybe even a few. You could probably google it. But I think I just figured it out while typing this comment why it is so... Because Basic strategy (or people say BS lol 😂) is based on average what the best decision is. And the average count.. the average as well as median count is 0.. it occurs most often. In a game where the count changes more.. basic strategy isn’t the best decision as often.. hence why there are deviations to basic strategy decisions based on the count.. in a CSM count is 0 a lot more often, then in a shoe game.. because they reshuffle a lot more often on average. That would probably be the reason & the premise. It just occurred to me.
If you want to keep your money, just stay out of a Casino period. And no matter how much counting skill you might have, the continuous card shuffler cannot be overcome. You will lose.
Thankfully my casino offers both thus rarely have been on automatic shuffler. Funny how it is low card cluster after low card cluster after low card cluster.
@@deankolpin4736 I was going to Star sarvo,glad I didnt everything broke down and no one could cash chips out. They told everyone to take their chips with them and come back another day. Technology's great until it ain't.
I won’t play a 6/5 game but I will play basic strategy at a CSM. I’ve read that there is an infinitesimal advantage for basic strategy players at a CSM vs a regular 6 or 8 deck shoe. True?
I usually play at a table with CSM's when I play "Free Bet" blackjack. I know, I know it's a bad game and not traditional. I do very good sometimes and know to get up and go! Win a few hands and run because It will take it back.
@@wannabesteve777 only play traditional blackjack. If it’s not available then leave. If you see others playing, then pull them off the game before you leave. These table must remain empty at all times.
In a casino in my city there are only 2 tables and both are csm and dealers put cards back to it after every hand, so there is not even 10% of deck penetration 😢
Hey BJA team, here’s a very important question. What is considered good deck penetration on a 2 deck and on a 6 deck game? What is considered fair penetration, and when is it not worth playing? Most of the local spots around here have double deck cut down the middle, which I think is pretty weak. There aren’t any 6 deck games around here. However, I play in Vegas and there’s lots of options there, so I want to plan accordingly and find games with good or at least fair penetration. I know El Cortez cuts its double deck right down the middle and backs people off (I’ve been backed off there). I think Plaza goes beyond the middle of its double deck. Not sure about the Station casinos. Can anyone chime in? Specifically for green chips (no need to mention MGM properties, as I’m flat bet there, so I can only Wong those games.)
I have to ask my blackjack tables do not draw the second card when they finish dealing to all players. Does that affect the card count and everything else involved? I've lost so much money to dealer showing ace, then pulling a face card later because they never drew the second card.
Could you make some video about gambling on a cruise ship? They have 8 decks and pay 3/2. Is this bad? What should be taken into account gambling on a cruise? I'd love that video!
hola saludos desde Venezuela, tengo una pregunta, si los demás jugadores en la mesa no aplican la tabla de estrategia basica del blackjack, eso afecta mi juego ? porque yo si la aplico.
En una ronda, sí afecta... Pero los demás si juegan malo... te puede ayudar en una y te destruye en otra... Los demás no te afectan en el gran juego... mi español no es perfecto pero si entiendes, entiendes
i think that in time these machines will dominate everything and counting might actually be done. the only reason they havent already is the high costs because otherwise theyre strictly better from the houses point of view. faster game, no shuffling, no counting.
Hello Collins ! I watched your videos for the past 3/4 months and start learning basic strategy and cards counting. During my stay in Germany in Baden Baden for works, I just went to casino to play blackjack for " fun" because I know basic strategy only and I know it is not enough to beat the game. However I've discovered that they were using shuffle machines there. I went there 2 evening straight spending 3h at least each evening with a bankroll of 100euros every time and walked out with + 72 profit by just playing every hand 5euros ( table minimum). Believe me I know it was luck. But I was astonishing seeing people playing huge hands (money wise) and not knowing basic strategy 😢 thank you for your video
I just started as a dealer a few days ago. I was in training and we used a standard shoe. When I hit the floor I noticed that the automatic shuffler ALWAYS gave me the best hand while I robbed everyone at the table. Typically with an actual shoe it would be an almost back and forth of the table winning and me winning. But I noticed immediately with the automatic shuffler that I was getting the best hands almost everytime
Good job buying nicer looking chips for your blackjack table. I wish you'd buy the ones with the numbers on them though. That would give it a better feel.
I think continuous shufflimg machines are hugely unpopular with players. The casino near me, a very large one, had continuous shuffling machines at some tables for a little while and got rid of them. Most tables now have the automatic shuffling machines that shuffle one shoe while another is being played. When the cut card is reached, a new shoe is immediately available and the machine shuffles the one just completed. Full hand shuffling is still available at the high limit tables. Even better, of course, is single or double deck blackjack (with no continuous shuffling machine).
You've brought this up in a few videos about CSM games and how it's bad for everyone comparing it to 6 to 5 games. But why someone who isn't counting care about a CSM game?
A CSM table will get in more hands per hour than an ASM. A perfect basic strategy player is still playing a negative expectation game so the more hands played empties the bankroll faster.
They shouldn’t tbh. Yeah, it’s a little faster so you’re expected to lose money faster but it’s effectively the same As for why gamblers *dont* typically play csm games, it’s bc gamblers are superstitious and see them as having worse odds
in my country, the resort world casino , the dealer will only receive the second card after all the players have stand ... what is the advantage or disadvantage of this? thoughts?
ASMs in a way almost offers a better advantage to counters over hand shuffles. The time the dealer spends shuffling is not only also time YOU are not playing, but also more time for security to review footage of the last shoe and potentially back you off without you actually playing.
There are 2 casinos near me that are not only all csm but have some variant like free bet blackjack. And then there is a casino that has 3 csm machjnes that are open ans only the hand dealt will get opened if the rest are full, or the high limit (25)is open with like 3 decks out of 6 cut off its bad
@@JoEmAmMaSoN don’t play them. Pull players off them whenever you are in a casino. Educate them. You can never gain an advantage on any single hand you play no matter how well you play the cards. I pull players off these games whenever I’m in a casino. We all must do this. We must help each other out. We must all refrain from playing blackjack until better games are offered.
@@JoEmAmMaSoN don’t ever play a continuously shuffled blackjack game. Also tell everyone else you know that plays blackjack to avoid these games as well.
Last casino i went to i was doing pretty good. In fact the whole table was on fire. Then the casino pushed us to a table w/ a CSM and it went as you expected. Left after a couple of rounds.
Casinos BC only have CSM machines unless you play at Parq Vancouver which has a $25 6 Deck Shoe. Or you can play a terrible DD Game with half deck penetration.
I've noticed auto shuffle tables have almost all the aces in a shoe come out in one or two hands. More likely to push a player blackjack or get them to take even money.
Continuous shufflers have really helped me. People continuously argue with me because I have aborted basic strategy. I treat each hand like the first hand of every deck. I use the knowledge there are more cards with a numeric value less than 10 in a deck. In fact there are 16 cards that have the numeric 10. Knowing that, you are more likely to pull a card with a numeric value other than 10 out of a deck than you are a a 10. That being the case, I do not assume that when the hole card the dealer has a value of 10. In fact, if the dealer has a face card, it is more likely the other card is not a 10. Knowing this, I do not hit on anything over 14. I also split 10s vs 4,5,6. I have done REALLY well with this strategy of treating each hand like it is the first, courtesy the continuous shuffler.
@@brian9670 You would be wrong. I do just fine this way. If you look at just the first hands of the shoo... you will see that more often than not, the dealer does not have 19 or 20 or 21. There are too many numbers under 10 in play. If you bust and they bust, YOU still lose. You win far more often when you do not hit 14 and under than you do if you hit and bust. It strikes me as odd how many times you see the first 6 hands dealt to the player out of the autoshuffler have a face card and do not have 21 or 20, and see a dealer with a face card and people are like, "you have to assume the dealer has a face card". You are literally looking at 5 hands with a face card and no 20, but we are to assume the dealer has 20? Come on, How many times have you busted and the dealer busted and you wish you stayed? IN the first hand of the shoo, you never have to worry if you stay. Oh, and before you knock the strategy and say it does not work, actually try it. Basic strategy was based on cards coming out of the deck, it was not based on exclusively the first two or three rounds and re-shuffling.
I hope it does work out for you, I really do. Honestly, I hope you take every casino for every dime they have. But anytime I hear someone talking about "abandoning basic strategy" I tend to stop listening. Like I said though, I legit wish you nothing but success!
@@brian9670 Like I said, people do not realize that basic strategy is not written for the first 3 hands of a 6 hand shoo. It is written for long term and the percentages as cards come out of play. This same reasoning is how card counting works. Card counting does not work because you do not see enough cards before they are mixed back in. Basic strategy is a long term thing, and that is long term over the course of full shoos being played. constant shufflers eliminate that
I doubt you can count a CSM. I've seen the insides. The cards go back into the wheel. Think of seats on a Ferris wheel. Then the clumps are picked/pulled from, etc. And the wheel turned.
@@Blackjackapprenticeship each card put in the CSM is randomly inserted in one of the 40 wheel slots. None of the slot can have more than 10 cards. When card buffer ready to be delt is below 10 cards, one of the pack of cards in a random slot is added to the buffer. That’s my understanding of how CSM works. Do you agree with that?
Personally, I don’t play. Still learning the basics, but I’d think that an automatic shuffler (not CSM) would actually be to an AP’s benefit (assuming similar penetration) because in theory it would give more hands per minute, increasing EV because of the reduced “down time” between shoes for hand shuffling.
I think it's interesting how he says in his intro that he's managed teams that have "beat casinos for 4 million dollars" 4 million dollars split among how many people and over how long? Like if the team was 10 people over the course of several years, that's not that much money. But if it's like a 5 man team over the course of a year, obviously that's a lot more.
3:40 why would non card counting gamblers care about that? It's not making the game worse for them, the house edge is still the same. It's just removing the edge for the AP.
The real issue with a card shuffler is that if it uses any random number generator? those machines have a number seed and that can be exploited. a few years ago (back in 2017), a russian crew hit a bunch of slot machines exploiting the seed number used in their random number generation.
Only have the one casino where i live. All CSMs and they play 4 decks with cards getting shuffled after every round. Yeah dont think ill be able to practise card counting anytime soon
My theory is that casinos genuinely want the business of card counters. Why? Because most card counters are bad at it and lose. From their point of view, you can have just a few non-CSM tables and you watch those tables carefully because those are the only ones a card counter will go near.
@@JoeFerber They welcome the bad card counters who will lose just as often as people who aren't counting at all and playing just for fun. They will get rid of the good ones.
@@danielschein6845 that’s true. But the casinos don’t want any card counters even if they are losing. They will even kick out non card counters if they make big bet variations. A player bet the minimum at a single deck game, 4 tens passed and that player bet the maximum on the next hand. The casino shuffled the cards immediately. Casinos are stupid.
Is there a logical explanation to how a dealer can get bj,bj,bj, 21,21,bj in a row? I have video recording of that and the Casino blocked my chat mentioning it
I remember getting 4 BJs in a row once, so something like that is possible. But when it happens for the dealer, it certainly adds a lot of negative energy to the table.
Interesting on how a guy wrote a book on how to beat the casinos and the casinos revenues took off. Yeah a few beat them but for the most part 98% were in the same boat as any other get rich quick scheme. If casinos have a personal vendetta against counters, then they will make a bad business mistake. For every card counter who knows what they are doing that they chase away, they also chase away a thousand players who would have lost. The casinos who say, meh, a few card counters will get us every now and then- they have an understanding of the costs of the industry they are in and will do well.
>on gamblers liking to think there is a way to beat the game absolutely. so many have their own "system" or whatever. this dude sitting next to me once, obviously not counting started talking about "how good a gambler he was"
I'm convinced continuous shuffle machines are rigged. I was at a table with one, and the dealer went FOUR hands in a row with a Queen of Spades as the face-up card (and had another random 10 or facecard underneath). There was more than one deck in the machine but the probability is still 1/52 each time, no way it could do it 4 times back to back by accident.
When I go to like a cruise ship I start seeing more of those machines and tables are full. I would guess that some of those ppl just there to have fun not to win a lot
It's not related to the video but is it advisable to bet twice as much, bankroll withstanding, as you ordinarily would in games where it's possible to surrender? Since we get half our bet back when we surrender, we get the option to quadruple our money (since we bet twice as much because of the surrender cushion and the possibility of getting a hand to double down).
All Asian casinos use CSM…It’s so interesting to know that some US casino don’t use that and let counters exist…I think it’s just a matter of time all casinos use CSM..
Well, I'll never play blackjack in Asia again and I'm not even a counter, just randomly found a video from this guy getting kicked out somewhere that looked like in the US and then watched this one. And if I won't play blackjack then I just won't gamble at all. I wonder how many tourists have this attitude...
For non counter players, the csm machine is better because they get faster play...so why would casinos not use them? Especially since 99.9% of their players are not counters.
Players who are actually playing these games need to be educated right there and then to pull them off these games. I have personally done this when in casinos. We need to cut into casino profits by pulling players off CSM and 6-5 games.
EXACTLY!!!!!
GREAT call!!!!!
Unfortunately, most gamblers are stupid! Gamblers either know too much or are totally naive. Not too many players are in between, except for larger betting players.
@@ianandersen265 we’ve got to try. I’ve been successful getting players off these awful blackjack games. If we don’t, then the games continue to get worse as time passes. Join me in making those casinos pay. Eat away casino profits.
It's not just 6:5 that needs eradicated - it's H17. Pennsylvania's state-mandated ruleset (3:2 S17 DA2 DAS LS) needs to be the STARTING POINT, not the end goal. They still have 0.36% house edge on a 6D game - there's no reason that can't get lower. We should be looking to Treasure Island as a fair goal - the PA ruleset, where either you give up surrender and it's a double deck game, or you concede it being a 6D game but you also get resplitting Aces up to 4 hands.
@@emmanuelvacakis4463 ALL of these CLUELESS people NEED to be EDUCATED!!!!!
My local casino has 2 tables with these and they sit empty all day lol
So everyone is a card counter?
@@StefanReich no, but 6-8 other tables offering a shoe and double deck people prefer to play those
No, but education has spread more than ever (thanks to channels like this) and people are more aware. When 6:5 started popping up, I tried explaining the simple math behind it's inferior play to people...and I would say half didn't even want to hear it.
@brian9670 Why players don't care about 6 to 5: "I'm just playing for fun. Besides, the house always wins, so why does the Blackjack payoff matter?"
Keep em empty and spread the word
I see a CSM, and I keep walkin'.
Literally just keep walking past any CSM or 6:5 tables. If nobody plays them, they will remove them. Yes, time is money but so is space games take up on the floor. Games that don't get play, don't stay!
Around 6 months ago, while sitting at a Mississippi Stud table, the machine kept locking up. While waiting for a replacement, the dealer talked about how the machine can sort the cards back into numerical order. So, if it can put them in order, it can certainly arrange them in any other specific order.
Yeah, I could not have walked away from that table quick enough!!!!
While you're not wrong that the software is there, there's no way to account for how many people are at the table, which constantly fluctuates and would change the distribution of the cards. Add in the completely normal scenario of a recreational player not making the book move (hitting when they should stay/doubling a hand they shouldn't/etc) and it would mess up the order entirely. It would be borderline impossible to rig the deck with all of those variables.
Finally, it's just not worth it. The game already has a house advantage. It would be exceptionally stupid to rig it even more and risk getting shut down and face criminal charges.
@@Kanders190 True in Blackjack this wouldn't matter, but in other games like Ultimate Texas Holdem?
@@mscolli3 maybe. Not entirely familiar with that game but again wouldn’t fluctuating players change the cards? And again, why rig a game that’s already in the house’s favor?
@@Kanders190 you get dealt cards and no action you do changes the cards, so they can rig ultimate, is there a point anyways? no lol
A CSM table *_could_* be used to increase the house edge if a dealer is counting cards. For example, at the start of the shoe, if the count is positive: the dealer puts the discards back in the machine. If the count is negative at the start of a shoe, the dealer deals a few more rounds before putting discards back into the machine. This is known as "preferential shuffling" in handheld & shoe games.
They put them back in the machine every 3 hands, regardless of amount of players at my casino
No Dealer counts cards man
No Dealer counts cards man
Every casino I've been in puts the cards back in the machine after every round.
where I work we have like 4 csm tables and we put the cards back after every round, and dealers don't count cards man, we look for cheating, counting chips and card values, no time for counting cards...
Whenever I go to a casino for the first time and see that it's either 6:5 or CSM blackjack, I leave a negative Google review for the casino calling out their terrible scam blackjack game in the hopes others will do the same and shame the casino into changing it back to proper blackjack (probably not going to happen I know but gotta do my part)
Good idea though
At the lower bet minimums, 6:5 is pretty much the standard. Except at very high minimums ($100+), hit soft 17 (H17) is pretty much universal these days. I don't see things changing any time soon. The next thing casinos will do to increase the edge will be *_mandatory side bets,_* which is already being done at Binion's and Golden Nugget, from what I know.
How does a CSM affect the game if you are not a card counter?
@apburner1 A CSM speeds up the game, and takes away "breaks" after a shoe ends. A faster game means greater losses for the player.
@@djm5687 Easy solution, Every 10 minutes or so, sit out 2 or 3 hands to get the same benefit as changing a shoe with ASM or 4 or 5 hands if you want the same benefit as a hand shuffle. if someone questions you, just say you want to change the flow of the cards. As for me, I like the pace of a shoe with an ASM. Hand shuffles take way too long unless you want a bathroom break.
My local casino all BJ tables using CSMs and the worst part is the dealer send all the cards back to the machine at every end of a round, mean all cards will be in the CSMs every round.
I have the same problem, south african casinos
@@jitwengwong483 pull the players off the game when you are there. CSM and 6-5 blackjack tables must remain empty at all times
Yeah same problem here in vienna smh bro
@ make sure nobody plays blackjack in Vienna. You absolutely must pull all players off the blackjack games in the act of playing by educating them. This is what I do whenever I’m in a casino. If nobody plays these awful blackjack games, the casino makes nothing and will go bankrupt or offer more player friendly blackjack games once again. The players are in charge. The players have the money. The players can choose to play or not to play. That’s the player advantage. The casino doesn’t have the money. So get these players off these games and tell all your colleagues to do the same.
I’m 53 and been playing since I was 21. During my 20-30’s, I experienced phenomenal nights starting at a low amount of $ and leaving 10-30X my entry level stack. Since I’ve played with auto shufflers in the last decade, I’ve never had a crazy good night. It could be simply anecdotal but my days of long ago haven’t been realized in years…
you are 13 years younger than Mark Cuban still plenty of life left
Fantastic video, Colin! Keep up the good work ♠️
They are everywhere now! You can feel how much worse they are if you're a regular player.
Why would they be worse for non-counting player?
@@StefanReich you don't have to be a card counter to see how a shuffle machine consistently pumps out terrible hands. At least with a shoe there's an expectation after lots of small cards that some bigger ones are coming down the line. This might not ever happen when you're on the receiving end of a shuffle machine. Combine that with 6/5 and other terrible rules and you feel like your slowly getting stabbed.
@@StefanReich They aren't. OP is way off base.
They are only worse for counters. It’s superstition to think they make things worse as a non-counting player. You’re not any more likely to lose, you just can’t tell when you have the advantage (which is the point of counting)
basic strat doesn't even work when you are dealt a 15 all the time, while dealer has 7 or better
The CSMs are usually leased, as well as the standard auto shuffler machines. My local said the cost is too high and just stay with hand shuffle.
I played a CSM table a couple times. Once i figured out an advantage, but that was partly the dealer going through a whole deck before shoving it back into the shuffler.
In my casino they put back in the CSM after around 2 decks (CSM stop giving card at 50% empty - can be customized I guess)
I lost so much money playing at one of these machines😭😭never again
At least you have LEARNED your lesson that those machines are CHEATING DEVICES!!!!!
@@chasekrank you can help others who are playing these awful blackjack games by educating them and pulling them off the tables. Cut into casino profits. We all must do this. A few isn’t enough. We must get all players off these games and the continuous shuffle machine will quietly disappear.
@@chasekrank you can cost the casino 100 times what you lost by educating others who play them. These tables must remain empty.
4:27 sorry, what did you say? Where am I? What happened? The count is 2. It’s been 2 since dealer change.
I’ve played on a shuffling machine while waiting for a friend the machine worked in my favour this time and kept giving me blackjacks loads and I ended up from £200-£1000 in about 40 minutes but I would not chose to play them over a real shoe even know I don’t count
You just got lucky. Not the same as being able to count. I've profited playing at a casino with shuffle machines too, I've also profited at the dreaded 6:5 tables, doesn't mean that inherently you can gain an advantage in either situation.
Had one of my best nights at a continuous shuffle table
If you don’t count, a shuffle machine is no worse than a
@@MediumDSpeaks yeah I’m not saying I think it’s the same but just had a lucky night! Obviously I’m the long run it is one amazing money earner for them but I don’t use them often at all
I don't know if they can be rigged or not, but they sure do have a way of defying the expected odds of probability. I have never seen so many of the same cards come out back to back to back-to-back to back back.
I don't understand why casinos who hate advantage players so much don't just... Not offer games where players can win.
There's nothing *forcing* these casinos to offer blackjack, but when someone just plays well they get upset that you're playing the game.
They don't believe in fairness. They can still make money by offering beatable games to stupid players. In fact, some casinos even harass advantage players whose advantage is over other players instead of over the casino.
Even better not back off ap and then attract even more morons who think they can beat the games
Blackjack is such a cultural staple of casinos that not offering it would be bizarre to people and would cause a lot of complaints. It would be like a casino without slot machines. So they do feel obligated to offer at least some form of blackjack and compensate for the fact it can be beaten by making the rules as terrible as possible
cause the vast majority of BJ players are suckers and will lose in the long run. It wouldn’t make sense for the casino not to offer a profitable game only because less than 0.1% of their customers are consistent winners. They can just be on the look out for them and ban them when spotted.
@@MrYosssup Even that is pretty silly when you really think about how few profitable APs there are. The time spent training suits to look out for card counters could be better spent in other areas where casinos lose money such as dealer errors. I'd be willing to bet that there are more players trying to past post than there are profitable APs
I first found CSMs in the casino on the cruise ship I was on last October. Sadly, I wasn't playing the high stakes game. But… using basic strategy does definitely work as I managed to break even. It was a bit disappointing, though.
In my local casino in Belgium, they use CSM, with deck penetration of 2 decks, favorable game rules (99.7% basic strategy: surrender except Ace, no hole card, DAS, 1.5:1 5card win, 2:1 6card win, 5:1 7card win). With min €5 max €250 wondering what hourly return I’m getting. Is there a way to calculate that? I have made a simulation program but way too slow to calculate it accurately 🤔
Moreover they give comps (loyalty points and kind of lottery tickets) which is worth around .2% of wagered amount…
CSM usually has a buffer of between 10 and 20 cards so when they put back the cards in it, the next hand has to be considered with the last true count but restart counting at zero
Csm can be profitable with very good rules , discounts and comps , the house edge could be negative with the set of rules you described, I wonder if the dealer stands on s17 do you get payed instantly for 6 or 7 cards ?
@@davegelman2379 dealer stands on S17 and 5-6-7 cards are payed accordingly if winning hand
Hey Collin, I was just recently databased, It was a soft backoff but they referred to me by name and I never gave my ID over to them. I continued along to three other casinos and received a back off at best within 20 minutes of play and at worst while I was buying in. It has to be facial recognition due to how quickly I'm being backed off. Is my advantaged play career over? Is this just a temporary BOLO? If I travel further, will I still be flagged? This really sucks and I regret not being more careful and shortening my secessions.
How do the odds change using perfect basic strategy vs csm? Do the odds stay the same?
Yes, they’re the same. If you’re not counting, CSMs don’t make a difference.
@@jackringel485 actually csm is just slightly better odds for the player with basic strategy.. simulations say.. but that’s just a fraction of a fraction of a percent %.. dono how it works but that’s what I’ve heard
@@zx6r531 Interesting. Playing with fewer decks is usually slightly better for the player even without counting, so I’d think CSM, which is essentially “infinite decks,” would extrapolate that. Do you have a link showing that it’s better odds?
@@jackringel485 there’s another comment in the comment section that says the same thing I said.. maybe even a few. You could probably google it.
But I think I just figured it out while typing this comment why it is so... Because Basic strategy (or people say BS lol 😂) is based on average what the best decision is. And the average count.. the average as well as median count is 0.. it occurs most often. In a game where the count changes more.. basic strategy isn’t the best decision as often..
hence why there are deviations to basic strategy decisions based on the count.. in a CSM count is 0 a lot more often, then in a shoe game.. because they reshuffle a lot more often on average. That would probably be the reason & the premise.
It just occurred to me.
@@zx6r531 That actually does make senseZ
If you want to keep your money, just stay out of a Casino period. And no matter how much counting skill you might have, the continuous card shuffler cannot be overcome. You will lose.
Hey man 🤙🏼. I purchased your book sometime back. Any way I could get the pdf. Thanks for your response
Email us at info@blackjackapprenticeship.com from the email you used when you purchased it and we can take care of you.
Are there any disadvantages for regular players though? It seems like CSMs only affect advantage players, unlike 6:5 tables, which affect everyone.
Unless you are in the Philippines where the regulator is not doing random checks on CSM?
Thankfully my casino offers both thus rarely have been on automatic shuffler. Funny how it is low card cluster after low card cluster after low card cluster.
Do CSMs shuffle every card each time, or simply mix the returned card into the deck? Do cards get stuck at the "bottom" of the deck?
I'm from Sydney Australia all the blackjack tables at Star city casino are C.S.M.
Everywhere in Adelaide too. Only found like 3 - 4 manual tables in Melbourne when I went last in March too!
@@deankolpin4736 I was going to Star sarvo,glad I didnt everything broke down and no one could cash chips out.
They told everyone to take their chips with them and come back another day.
Technology's great until it ain't.
Upstairs is manual shuffling, I wonder if the new crown has CSMs.
@@jont1298 Hi,do you mean upstairs at the star?.Are they high stakes tables?
I really only play the 20$ tables.
does anyone have adivce if there are any casinos in Ontario that arent CSM ??
I won’t play a 6/5 game but I will play basic strategy at a CSM. I’ve read that there is an infinitesimal advantage for basic strategy players at a CSM vs a regular 6 or 8 deck shoe. True?
I usually play at a table with CSM's when I play "Free Bet" blackjack. I know, I know it's a bad game and not traditional. I do very good sometimes and know to get up and go! Win a few hands and run because It will take it back.
@@wannabesteve777 only play traditional blackjack. If it’s not available then leave. If you see others playing, then pull them off the game before you leave. These table must remain empty at all times.
Can you let us know the tipping etiquette for blackjack counters please ?
We have a few videos on the topic but here is a favorite: th-cam.com/video/StPJFox5GeA/w-d-xo.html
Can't beat a CSM.
That is CORRECT because those machines are CHEATING DEVICES!!!!!
Unless you’re peeking at the dealers hidden card then you could get a pretty decent edge
Theres always a way
@@Sammmeow There is NO way!!!
In a casino in my city there are only 2 tables and both are csm and dealers put cards back to it after every hand, so there is not even 10% of deck penetration 😢
Hey BJA team, here’s a very important question. What is considered good deck penetration on a 2 deck and on a 6 deck game? What is considered fair penetration, and when is it not worth playing?
Most of the local spots around here have double deck cut down the middle, which I think is pretty weak. There aren’t any 6 deck games around here.
However, I play in Vegas and there’s lots of options there, so I want to plan accordingly and find games with good or at least fair penetration.
I know El Cortez cuts its double deck right down the middle and backs people off (I’ve been backed off there). I think Plaza goes beyond the middle of its double deck. Not sure about the Station casinos. Can anyone chime in? Specifically for green chips (no need to mention MGM properties, as I’m flat bet there, so I can only Wong those games.)
Why no mid-deck entry? That is to a c ounter's advantage.
I have to ask my blackjack tables do not draw the second card when they finish dealing to all players. Does that affect the card count and everything else involved? I've lost so much money to dealer showing ace, then pulling a face card later because they never drew the second card.
Finally watched Holy Rollers. Wow what a documentary. It was amazing. Great job. I know that was so long ago.
Question Colin. What was your bet spread when you were doing that with your bankroll?
They are taking over in Florida. It's very disappointing. I miss you guys at BJA! I hope to be back soon.
Colin - how do I contact you direct? Looking to make an interesting video about you potentially!
You can contact us at info@blackjackapprenticeship.com and send over your idea.
@@Blackjackapprenticeship Thanks, have just sent a short mail there.
Could you make some video about gambling on a cruise ship? They have 8 decks and pay 3/2. Is this bad?
What should be taken into account gambling on a cruise? I'd love that video!
hi collin, do u have a sheet / list of casinos with beatable games? tired of driving to a casino and its just cluttered with stupid csm machines.
Our members have access to and help maintain a Casino Database for exactly this reason, to help avoid bad games and focus on good ones.
hola saludos desde Venezuela, tengo una pregunta, si los demás jugadores en la mesa no aplican la tabla de estrategia basica del blackjack, eso afecta mi juego ? porque yo si la aplico.
En una ronda, sí afecta...
Pero los demás si juegan malo... te puede ayudar en una y te destruye en otra...
Los demás no te afectan en el gran juego... mi español no es perfecto pero si entiendes, entiendes
@@zx6r531 gracias
got 3 of these at the casino i work at and i must say, they take all of the fun out of dealing.
Dude i love you still upload and you look healthy I don't gamble anymore but i still love these video's
Im reading en comments about 6:5 games and csm, I now know what’s csm means… but, can someone explain the 6:5??? Thank you
i think that in time these machines will dominate everything and counting might actually be done. the only reason they havent already is the high costs because otherwise theyre strictly better from the houses point of view. faster game, no shuffling, no counting.
The MD3 shuffler is about 30K if it was sold to a casino but yes I believe most macines are leased from Light and Wonder.
I've never seen a table without a CSM in AUS or NZ.
How do I know if it's a CSM machine when I sit down at a table?
You'll see the exact machine in the thumbnail. They all look similar to that. You'll also see them putting the cards back in every few rounds.
In the UK no casio have stoes anymore. They all use the csm Machines.
Hello Collins ! I watched your videos for the past 3/4 months and start learning basic strategy and cards counting. During my stay in Germany in Baden Baden for works, I just went to casino to play blackjack for " fun" because I know basic strategy only and I know it is not enough to beat the game. However I've discovered that they were using shuffle machines there. I went there 2 evening straight spending 3h at least each evening with a bankroll of 100euros every time and walked out with + 72 profit by just playing every hand 5euros ( table minimum). Believe me I know it was luck. But I was astonishing seeing people playing huge hands (money wise) and not knowing basic strategy 😢 thank you for your video
Wasn't there something about that by playing a basic strategy on CSM that can be worthwhile?
No
I just started as a dealer a few days ago. I was in training and we used a standard shoe. When I hit the floor I noticed that the automatic shuffler ALWAYS gave me the best hand while I robbed everyone at the table. Typically with an actual shoe it would be an almost back and forth of the table winning and me winning. But I noticed immediately with the automatic shuffler that I was getting the best hands almost everytime
Does card counting work when its European blackjack. The dealer gets only one card
it should make little difference. there is still 1 card face up for the dealer
Good job buying nicer looking chips for your blackjack table. I wish you'd buy the ones with the numbers on them though. That would give it a better feel.
I think continuous shufflimg machines are hugely unpopular with players. The casino near me, a very large one, had continuous shuffling machines at some tables for a little while and got rid of them. Most tables now have the automatic shuffling machines that shuffle one shoe while another is being played. When the cut card is reached, a new shoe is immediately available and the machine shuffles the one just completed. Full hand shuffling is still available at the high limit tables.
Even better, of course, is single or double deck blackjack (with no continuous shuffling machine).
It would be amazing if someone can go level 10 card counter and figure out the shuffling algorithm of these machines then beat them
It would be impossible
How about QLD Australia?
You've brought this up in a few videos about CSM games and how it's bad for everyone comparing it to 6 to 5 games. But why someone who isn't counting care about a CSM game?
A CSM table will get in more hands per hour than an ASM. A perfect basic strategy player is still playing a negative expectation game so the more hands played empties the bankroll faster.
They shouldn’t tbh. Yeah, it’s a little faster so you’re expected to lose money faster but it’s effectively the same
As for why gamblers *dont* typically play csm games, it’s bc gamblers are superstitious and see them as having worse odds
in my country, the resort world casino , the dealer will only receive the second card after all the players have stand ... what is the advantage or disadvantage of this? thoughts?
ASMs in a way almost offers a better advantage to counters over hand shuffles. The time the dealer spends shuffling is not only also time YOU are not playing, but also more time for security to review footage of the last shoe and potentially back you off without you actually playing.
eh, if you reveal your spread, you should probably be leaving at the end of that shoe anyway
There are 2 casinos near me that are not only all csm but have some variant like free bet blackjack. And then there is a casino that has 3 csm machjnes that are open ans only the hand dealt will get opened if the rest are full, or the high limit (25)is open with like 3 decks out of 6 cut off its bad
4:25 have all dealers like her and the only card counters you have to worry about are gay ones.
lmaoo
Yeah I assumed they were same as 6 deck rules. Almost all casinos near me use those on 80% of tables
That is just AWFUL and HORRIBLE!!!!!
@@JoEmAmMaSoN don’t play them. Pull players off them whenever you are in a casino. Educate them. You can never gain an advantage on any single hand you play no matter how well you play the cards. I pull players off these games whenever I’m in a casino. We all must do this. We must help each other out. We must all refrain from playing blackjack until better games are offered.
Do not give them your action anymore!!!!!!!
@@JoEmAmMaSoN don’t ever play a continuously shuffled blackjack game. Also tell everyone else you know that plays blackjack to avoid these games as well.
if there is an EYE that reads if dealer has a 21 there certainly can be a sorter or arranger in the shuffler.
The eye that reads that is the dealer's eye.
Last casino i went to i was doing pretty good. In fact the whole table was on fire. Then the casino pushed us to a table w/ a CSM and it went as you expected. Left after a couple of rounds.
I never got whats the problem to use 2 decks and shuffle them each time
Time is money
Casinos BC only have CSM machines unless you play at Parq Vancouver which has a $25 6 Deck Shoe. Or you can play a terrible DD Game with half deck penetration.
My good sir. I have a request. Can you teach us the art of back counting
We have a couple videos that touch on it but I'll see if we can create some reels around back counting next time we're recording.
@@Blackjackapprenticeship thank you good sir
I've noticed auto shuffle tables have almost all the aces in a shoe come out in one or two hands. More likely to push a player blackjack or get them to take even money.
Unfortunately most of the big chain casinos in the UK use these.
Continuous shufflers have really helped me.
People continuously argue with me because I have aborted basic strategy. I treat each hand like the first hand of every deck. I use the knowledge there are more cards with a numeric value less than 10 in a deck. In fact there are 16 cards that have the numeric 10. Knowing that, you are more likely to pull a card with a numeric value other than 10 out of a deck than you are a a 10. That being the case, I do not assume that when the hole card the dealer has a value of 10. In fact, if the dealer has a face card, it is more likely the other card is not a 10. Knowing this, I do not hit on anything over 14. I also split 10s vs 4,5,6.
I have done REALLY well with this strategy of treating each hand like it is the first, courtesy the continuous shuffler.
You won't be able to sustain this long term
@@brian9670 You would be wrong.
I do just fine this way. If you look at just the first hands of the shoo... you will see that more often than not, the dealer does not have 19 or 20 or 21. There are too many numbers under 10 in play. If you bust and they bust, YOU still lose. You win far more often when you do not hit 14 and under than you do if you hit and bust.
It strikes me as odd how many times you see the first 6 hands dealt to the player out of the autoshuffler have a face card and do not have 21 or 20, and see a dealer with a face card and people are like, "you have to assume the dealer has a face card". You are literally looking at 5 hands with a face card and no 20, but we are to assume the dealer has 20? Come on,
How many times have you busted and the dealer busted and you wish you stayed? IN the first hand of the shoo, you never have to worry if you stay.
Oh, and before you knock the strategy and say it does not work, actually try it. Basic strategy was based on cards coming out of the deck, it was not based on exclusively the first two or three rounds and re-shuffling.
I hope it does work out for you, I really do. Honestly, I hope you take every casino for every dime they have. But anytime I hear someone talking about "abandoning basic strategy" I tend to stop listening. Like I said though, I legit wish you nothing but success!
@@brian9670 Like I said, people do not realize that basic strategy is not written for the first 3 hands of a 6 hand shoo. It is written for long term and the percentages as cards come out of play. This same reasoning is how card counting works. Card counting does not work because you do not see enough cards before they are mixed back in.
Basic strategy is a long term thing, and that is long term over the course of full shoos being played. constant shufflers eliminate that
@@brothaman007 is this true blackjack apprentice?
I doubt you can count a CSM. I've seen the insides. The cards go back into the wheel. Think of seats on a Ferris wheel. Then the clumps are picked/pulled from, etc. And the wheel turned.
Did you watch the video?
@@Blackjackapprenticeship each card put in the CSM is randomly inserted in one of the 40 wheel slots. None of the slot can have more than 10 cards. When card buffer ready to be delt is below 10 cards, one of the pack of cards in a random slot is added to the buffer.
That’s my understanding of how CSM works.
Do you agree with that?
Personally, I don’t play. Still learning the basics, but I’d think that an automatic shuffler (not CSM) would actually be to an AP’s benefit (assuming similar penetration) because in theory it would give more hands per minute, increasing EV because of the reduced “down time” between shoes for hand shuffling.
the customer had 20 - the dealer had 13 ... and needed an 8 .... GUESS WHAT THE NEXT CARD WAS !!!
I think it's interesting how he says in his intro that he's managed teams that have "beat casinos for 4 million dollars"
4 million dollars split among how many people and over how long? Like if the team was 10 people over the course of several years, that's not that much money. But if it's like a 5 man team over the course of a year, obviously that's a lot more.
3:40 why would non card counting gamblers care about that? It's not making the game worse for them, the house edge is still the same. It's just removing the edge for the AP.
You're not too smart 😅
4:27 I keep loosing on that table and not sure why 😂
The real issue with a card shuffler is that if it uses any random number generator? those machines have a number seed and that can be exploited. a few years ago (back in 2017), a russian crew hit a bunch of slot machines exploiting the seed number used in their random number generation.
Only have the one casino where i live. All CSMs and they play 4 decks with cards getting shuffled after every round. Yeah dont think ill be able to practise card counting anytime soon
My theory is that casinos genuinely want the business of card counters. Why? Because most card counters are bad at it and lose.
From their point of view, you can have just a few non-CSM tables and you watch those tables carefully because those are the only ones a card counter will go near.
I doubt that casinos would WELCOME card counters!
Smart ones do bc most counters suck at it and can't handle the swings. But a lot of casinos are run by idiots who are overly paranoid.
@@JoeFerber They welcome the bad card counters who will lose just as often as people who aren't counting at all and playing just for fun. They will get rid of the good ones.
@@danielschein6845 that’s true. But the casinos don’t want any card counters even if they are losing. They will even kick out non card counters if they make big bet variations. A player bet the minimum at a single deck game, 4 tens passed and that player bet the maximum on the next hand. The casino shuffled the cards immediately. Casinos are stupid.
@@Matt-wf7ry That makes sense.
Is there a logical explanation to how a dealer can get bj,bj,bj, 21,21,bj in a row?
I have video recording of that and the Casino blocked my chat mentioning it
It's the same logical explanation that the dealer can roll the same number three times in a row on roulette.
Because number of decks is >= 4 and random is random
I remember getting 4 BJs in a row once, so something like that is possible. But when it happens for the dealer, it certainly adds a lot of negative energy to the table.
In the Netherlands there is only 1 casino that has blackjack. They only use the constantly shuffling machines :(
Stop playing basic strategy against them
@@variancejunky how should I play than?
Lol what
@@brian9670 only Holland casino.
All near Casinos only have CSM blackjack table and not playing it is not playing at all 😅
same man
I haven’t found one casino in Calgary Alberta without a csm yet, I have ONE casino left to look at…
Try Deerfoot Inn or Grey Eagle - both have been updated this year by players as having 6 deck 3:2 games.
Spill your drink on the CSM.
Australia IS 99% CSM - I'm a BJ dealer and this is such a huge problem. it absolutely sucks.
Interesting on how a guy wrote a book on how to beat the casinos and the casinos revenues took off. Yeah a few beat them but for the most part 98% were in the same boat as any other get rich quick scheme. If casinos have a personal vendetta against counters, then they will make a bad business mistake. For every card counter who knows what they are doing that they chase away, they also chase away a thousand players who would have lost. The casinos who say, meh, a few card counters will get us every now and then- they have an understanding of the costs of the industry they are in and will do well.
According to Mike Shackelford, the Wizard of Odds, a CSM actually REDUCES the house by .020 % in a six deck game.
I don't see how it's possible but I am opening to listening to the math
@@brian9670It's BS
Anybody else see Jason England and immediately go “MacMillian Switch!” “Shade!”??
Crown casino Melbourne only has tables with csm
>on gamblers liking to think there is a way to beat the game
absolutely. so many have their own "system" or whatever. this dude sitting next to me once, obviously not counting started talking about "how good a gambler he was"
Some guys get on a heater and suddenly think they are unstoppable geniuses.
Please answer this question for me. Should I split twens on a CSM machine?
Every time!
I'm convinced continuous shuffle machines are rigged. I was at a table with one, and the dealer went FOUR hands in a row with a Queen of Spades as the face-up card (and had another random 10 or facecard underneath). There was more than one deck in the machine but the probability is still 1/52 each time, no way it could do it 4 times back to back by accident.
When I go to like a cruise ship I start seeing more of those machines and tables are full. I would guess that some of those ppl just there to have fun not to win a lot
It's not related to the video but is it advisable to bet twice as much, bankroll withstanding, as you ordinarily would in games where it's possible to surrender? Since we get half our bet back when we surrender, we get the option to quadruple our money (since we bet twice as much because of the surrender cushion and the possibility of getting a hand to double down).
In Poland we have only a few „normal” casinos. All the rest are CSM 😒
They're hard to find in Poland, but there are a few good shoe games around!
All Asian casinos use CSM…It’s so interesting to know that some US casino don’t use that and let counters exist…I think it’s just a matter of time all casinos use CSM..
Well, I'll never play blackjack in Asia again and I'm not even a counter, just randomly found a video from this guy getting kicked out somewhere that looked like in the US and then watched this one. And if I won't play blackjack then I just won't gamble at all. I wonder how many tourists have this attitude...
For non counter players, the csm machine is better because they get faster play...so why would casinos not use them? Especially since 99.9% of their players are not counters.