Bro imagine this.. Ye learns from the reception of vultures 2 that he needs to put in more effort.. And then works his ass off and starts to bring back his majestic musical and prouction skills back and make a spectacular album. And he doesn't delays v3...i know this prolly wont happen but you know its free to dream...
Rob!! You’re 2 for 2 with me right now! I might have to rethink my stance on new-age journalism haha. I haven’t listened to V2 yet, but I’m looking forward to it. I didn’t listen to any leaks either. As a fan of Kanye’s music, I don’t think he has a “bad” album; just different stages of his life are reflected in his music, so I take it for what it is. With that said, Ye has always been straight-face funny to me, so I’m excited to hear those lines you pointed out. One of Kanye’s superpowers is bringing out the best in artists. He did it with Ross and Nicki on MBDTF, as well as Hov on WTT. He’s doing it with Ty$, and I hope he continues to do the same with others in the future.
U probably already know but Big Sean talked about u in his interview with charlamagne... keep up the good work bro! you are hands down my favorite hip hop journalist in the game
yall aren’t analyzing this album at all, you’re simply hearing it and calling it trash.. it’s cool if yall prefer sexy red and megan, but actually listen to ye and then comment🤝🏽
Album isn’t bad unfortunately all his music is being leaked and he seems to rework what’s leaked. I’m still looking forward to vol 3 and his solo project, it’s the let’s hate everything Ye do era, he continues to put out good music and I’m here for it.
quite literally. this was honestly a 7.5/10!! i’d love to give it a full 8, but out of the 16 songs.. a lot of them were just good, a few were great, and a few were trash
I dunno, i guess cause i make music myself… I know what it is to create and then put it out there and be judged. I at least wanna give the artist a fair shot. Plus there are a ton of other personalities who give really judgmental over the top reactions. I just rather be me. Thank you for noticing
I haaatteeee that they still cant get Everybody cleared. I really enjoyed the album tho. Though I don’t think the album is perfect I really enjoyed it. Im reading a lot of comments shittin on the album which is crazyyyy to me granted its probably gonna make vultures 3 that much better.
While not a huge fan of some of Ye's lyrics and verses on these last two albums, but im glad he's in a positive state of releasing consistently without butchering his vision to fit a date or appease a label.
There's like 4 great tracks, most of it is either undercooked or has wack lyrics. I like River, Slide, My Soul, and Dead. Ty carried for a lot of tracks and most features were underwhelming apart from Wayne, Future, and Thug. I'm gonna edit this when I finish my second listen
@@RobMarkmanyeah I agree with that. I think I was just a bit disappointed with how it hasn't changed at all in the years since it was first played at the listening parties, because I could tell it had tons of potential for the second half and he just didn't do anything with it.
Facts! Donda is his TENTH studio album. Ye doesn’t need to prove anything. He’s solidified as a legend. But dropping an ok lack luster album, he might as well retire. It’s ok. We have plenty of work from him
My biggest gripes is the Husband/Lifestyle repeat track thing and the second half of 530. My fiance is trying to gaslight me that Ye seems to be using the Musical concept of a reprise to repeat Husband. With 530 I'm not sure if I'm more mad at the mumbling or just the fact that the track hasn't changed in 2 years. There's a lot of great tracks on V2, and it's more hip hop. Fried, Slide, Dead, Forever Rollin, River, My soul. V1 felt like more of a House album than hip hop. V2 seems to have higher highs, but lower lows than V1 and even though there's better singles, Vultures 1 feels like more of a coherent thought, V2 just feels like a bunch of bangers that didn't meet the V1 concept.
@WestCoastCultured lmao. You don't have to have talent or money to have an opinion on a subjective piece of art. It's cool if kanyes your fav but there's zero reason to be bashing someone for their opinion and acting like an asshole. It's possible to just respectfully disagree. Because if we was only accepting opinions of people that are rich and successful then you're opinion would be invalid too. 🤷♂️ Just be respectful dawg. It ain't that hard.
I missed some of the recent videos so this is he first i hear of the memberships! Congratulations. Glad you did it and can’t wait to join soon once I can afford it lol struggling atm but I know it will pass! I also don’t think the Drake line was a worth making a thing about ot but I know on reddit some people are making a big deal out of it. I’m sure Drake won’t address it. I enjoyed the album overall but was a bit let down since it didn’t sound too different from the leaked version but that’s more on me for listening to it for months lol
Memberships is just a thing. Dont you worry, i absolutely appreciate you being a part of this community right here. That Drake line isn’t a big deal at all. And i didn’t hear the leaked version.
I genuinely opened Spotify and jumped back in my chair seeing this actually came out, vultures 2 gave me a jumpscare and while listening to each track I was waiting for Kanye to completely ruin the track with a shitty ass bar but I was COMPLETELY left in shock when he didnt ruin the 1st track and the rest is actually pretty solid so far lmfao
Donda was his last good album, incredibly emotionally charged. Mostly because he was fighting for his family in the name of his mother and charged by his rekindled faith. Everything hes doing now feels like hes fallen into this vapid divorce-core sound. It sound like hes given up and going though the motions. It sound like hes lost that spark and the things hes rapping about dont even sound important to himself.
The album is not for me. I feel like hes uninspired after Donda. A solo album would of been preferable. I feel like hes evading his ability to chop samples, rap, reproduce all the way through and refine and mix his music, that how we got his first 6 albums. If he goes away and lock in he would possibly have album of the year, but he wouldnt do that for some reason. Apparently he has a solo album done prod by him and erick sermon who also said he dont need anyone.
Hey rob. Not related to the ye album. But have you heard the newest denzel curry album and do you plan on talking about it? And the new jpeg album as well? Super curious to hear if you enjoyed both of those. Keep up the great work man!
Kanye west is the george lucas of rap. Visionary who changes the game, then surrounds himself with yes men at the top. Vultures 2 is kanye wests phantom menace.
Ima be honest, never woulda guessed that this is what a Kanye West album would sound like 20 years removed from his debut album. Might be time to hang it up, hate to see it…
I'm not saying the album is bad, but I def got a few tracks in and decided to return to the JPEGMAFIA joint. IDK when Ima give this one a full spin, but nothing was jumping out and demanding attention. Ye droppin in a very crowded field right now. Whatever else, this gotta be one of the best years in rap ever.
Didn't even fully listen to the first one but I watching Kai's video rn it's not that bad. the lyrics aren't what I like to hear But Kanye never had a good one to me anyways. The Sound and production is really fye so far though🔥🔥 makes me kinda want to listen to the first one
Both “Vulture” albums wasn’t appealing to me at all. Honestly, I wouldn’t mind him just sticking to producing at this point. “Donda” was his last album that I actually loved.
Honestly , boring, i tried to listen to it. But it felt like the people around him were not interested in putting that effort. Compared to Commons and pete rocks album, lupe fiasco or schoolboy q felt like they actually put love into it. The love for hip hop wasnt there for this album. I think the instrumentals were dope but the lyricsl content not there. Just my thought.
He’s tarnishing his legacy dropping this garbage, the guy who has arguably 7 classics dropped this toilet water album, the first one wasn’t good either if they were mixtapes they might not have been that bad but dam smh
Honestly this feels like a bootleg version. I wouldn’t be surpsied if he has the actual version behind the paywall on his site (don’t forget he wanted to do direct to consumer) Happy field trip is out tho …the rest is ….aight
This album was awful but I respect your opinion so I won’t trash it too much. I used to be a Kanye west fan but after his last like 3 or 4 albums I’m so tired of his music being mid/lazy/trash
Albums 1-6 (TCD, LR, G, 808s, MBDTF, & WTT) all have infinite playback value. Everything else is just…*crickets*…I’ll even throw Jesus Is King in there. Great album, but Ye is not Kanye. He’s one of these new artists man. Smh.
I’m sorry this album is trash donda was way better than this. the lack of quality for this album even for Kanye standards says a lot might be he’s downfall coming.
Vultures 1 was great at first, still has great tracks but not a really great album experience after awhile. This was terrible on first listen, Bomb is one of the worst songs ive ever heard.
I’m a Kanye Stan and this album is bad. All the leaks of the songs he “reworked” were 20x better. He really destroyed Sky City, time moving slow, River and please for the love of god take that freestyle BS off at the end of 5:30! The leak version with the soulful singing in the beginning is soooooooo much better. Idk why ye be having perfect ass songs and then he goes and reworks them and totally messes the song up. He’s been doing this since Wolves. Like leave well enough alone bruh. I just think ye don’t wanna be perfect anymore. I think he thrives off imperfections and we’ll never get another mbdtf or anything close to it
He needs an Anakin Skywalker level dramatic ass theatrical redemption arc to get me super interested again
Yeah. I don’t know how excited i could get for Ye. It all just feels cool. Like alright, cool.
Tbh, most people would be back on his jock if he dropped one good album again, not saying that’s you but…
@@artheals8869 everyone loves a hit record.
He's actually having that, you just have to remember Anakin is EVIL 😭😭😭
Bro imagine this.. Ye learns from the reception of vultures 2 that he needs to put in more effort.. And then works his ass off and starts to bring back his majestic musical and prouction skills back and make a spectacular album. And he doesn't delays v3...i know this prolly wont happen but you know its free to dream...
Rob!! You’re 2 for 2 with me right now! I might have to rethink my stance on new-age journalism haha. I haven’t listened to V2 yet, but I’m looking forward to it. I didn’t listen to any leaks either. As a fan of Kanye’s music, I don’t think he has a “bad” album; just different stages of his life are reflected in his music, so I take it for what it is. With that said, Ye has always been straight-face funny to me, so I’m excited to hear those lines you pointed out. One of Kanye’s superpowers is bringing out the best in artists. He did it with Ross and Nicki on MBDTF, as well as Hov on WTT. He’s doing it with Ty$, and I hope he continues to do the same with others in the future.
U probably already know but Big Sean talked about u in his interview with charlamagne... keep up the good work bro! you are hands down my favorite hip hop journalist in the game
@@mikemalagies yeah i seen it. Grateful for his and Charlamagne’s words. Much love
ty dolla $ really held these albums down. charlie wilson definitely make every record better
yeah charlie wilson can do no wrong
yall aren’t analyzing this album at all, you’re simply hearing it and calling it trash.. it’s cool if yall prefer sexy red and megan, but actually listen to ye and then comment🤝🏽
Album isn’t bad unfortunately all his music is being leaked and he seems to rework what’s leaked. I’m still looking forward to vol 3 and his solo project, it’s the let’s hate everything Ye do era, he continues to put out good music and I’m here for it.
quite literally. this was honestly a 7.5/10!! i’d love to give it a full 8, but out of the 16 songs.. a lot of them were just good, a few were great, and a few were trash
I really love how you come at the artist objectively and non judgmentally, calling balls and strikes
Accurate.
I dunno, i guess cause i make music myself… I know what it is to create and then put it out there and be judged. I at least wanna give the artist a fair shot. Plus there are a ton of other personalities who give really judgmental over the top reactions. I just rather be me. Thank you for noticing
For real. Respect @RobMarkman
I haaatteeee that they still cant get Everybody cleared. I really enjoyed the album tho. Though I don’t think the album is perfect I really enjoyed it. Im reading a lot of comments shittin on the album which is crazyyyy to me granted its probably gonna make vultures 3 that much better.
While not a huge fan of some of Ye's lyrics and verses on these last two albums, but im glad he's in a positive state of releasing consistently without butchering his vision to fit a date or appease a label.
Nahh he needs more No men in his circle. Meme voice “what is this?”
There's like 4 great tracks, most of it is either undercooked or has wack lyrics. I like River, Slide, My Soul, and Dead. Ty carried for a lot of tracks and most features were underwhelming apart from Wayne, Future, and Thug. I'm gonna edit this when I finish my second listen
I liked the first half of 530 a lot!!!
@@RobMarkmanyeah I agree with that. I think I was just a bit disappointed with how it hasn't changed at all in the years since it was first played at the listening parties, because I could tell it had tons of potential for the second half and he just didn't do anything with it.
Forever Rolling is dope
Album got me thinking Ye shoulda retired after Donda
Damn !!
Facts! Donda is his TENTH studio album. Ye doesn’t need to prove anything. He’s solidified as a legend. But dropping an ok lack luster album, he might as well retire. It’s ok. We have plenty of work from him
Donda is a great album!
My biggest gripes is the Husband/Lifestyle repeat track thing and the second half of 530. My fiance is trying to gaslight me that Ye seems to be using the Musical concept of a reprise to repeat Husband. With 530 I'm not sure if I'm more mad at the mumbling or just the fact that the track hasn't changed in 2 years. There's a lot of great tracks on V2, and it's more hip hop. Fried, Slide, Dead, Forever Rollin, River, My soul. V1 felt like more of a House album than hip hop. V2 seems to have higher highs, but lower lows than V1 and even though there's better singles, Vultures 1 feels like more of a coherent thought, V2 just feels like a bunch of bangers that didn't meet the V1 concept.
ye need to retire fr
I think he still has a chance to prove he is still a good artist.
Says the irrelevant with no talent or money
@@WestCoastCultured I got both I’m just not famous enough for you to dicksuck
@WestCoastCultured lmao. You don't have to have talent or money to have an opinion on a subjective piece of art. It's cool if kanyes your fav but there's zero reason to be bashing someone for their opinion and acting like an asshole. It's possible to just respectfully disagree. Because if we was only accepting opinions of people that are rich and successful then you're opinion would be invalid too. 🤷♂️ Just be respectful dawg. It ain't that hard.
It’s sounds sonically great as usual. But the recent subject matter leaves much to be desired. He clearly doesn’t care like he used to anymore 💯
I missed some of the recent videos so this is he first i hear of the memberships! Congratulations. Glad you did it and can’t wait to join soon once I can afford it lol struggling atm but I know it will pass!
I also don’t think the Drake line was a worth making a thing about ot but I know on reddit some people are making a big deal out of it. I’m sure Drake won’t address it. I enjoyed the album overall but was a bit let down since it didn’t sound too different from the leaked version but that’s more on me for listening to it for months lol
Memberships is just a thing. Dont you worry, i absolutely appreciate you being a part of this community right here.
That Drake line isn’t a big deal at all.
And i didn’t hear the leaked version.
also 530 was from years ago between donda and donda 2
I think the leaked version of river was better than the version on the album. Maybe he’ll update some tracks in the coming weeks like he has before
I hope so...
All the leaks were better than what he released
@@joshuacolon3893 he updated it, it’s closer to the original now 😂
I genuinely opened Spotify and jumped back in my chair seeing this actually came out, vultures 2 gave me a jumpscare and while listening to each track I was waiting for Kanye to completely ruin the track with a shitty ass bar but I was COMPLETELY left in shock when he didnt ruin the 1st track and the rest is actually pretty solid so far lmfao
Donda was his last good album, incredibly emotionally charged. Mostly because he was fighting for his family in the name of his mother and charged by his rekindled faith.
Everything hes doing now feels like hes fallen into this vapid divorce-core sound. It sound like hes given up and going though the motions. It sound like hes lost that spark and the things hes rapping about dont even sound important to himself.
You, Jinx, the Company man Justin Hunte, and Nedeska are my favs
@@quesostuff1009 fans of them all. Nadeska and I used to work together. Jinx, and i worked on a few projects together and Justin is the homie!!!
@@RobMarkman glad to hear “the homies” are connected. Keep pushing. We enjoy yall content
That pause at 18:48 had me rolling 🤣
🤣🤣🤣
The album is not for me. I feel like hes uninspired after Donda. A solo album would of been preferable. I feel like hes evading his ability to chop samples, rap, reproduce all the way through and refine and mix his music, that how we got his first 6 albums. If he goes away and lock in he would possibly have album of the year, but he wouldnt do that for some reason. Apparently he has a solo album done prod by him and erick sermon who also said he dont need anyone.
Felt like he was already uninspired by Donda
Kanye’s production is still untouchable. I would love to see him lean back on the rapping and get into his producer bag with him getting older.
Its amazing
Aoty 🎉
Hey rob. Not related to the ye album. But have you heard the newest denzel curry album and do you plan on talking about it? And the new jpeg album as well? Super curious to hear if you enjoyed both of those. Keep up the great work man!
First listen, it’s has way more commercial appeal than v1 . It’s cool though, and I’m definitely going to listen again…
where's that ghost tee from?
This is a Collaborative effort NOT a YE Solo. With that being said, it’s a 8/10 first listen. Gets better the more you listen to it!
Ima try to listen to it some more then
My first thoughts are let’s talk about that JPEG album, because that shit is Bonkers
I haven’t checked it yet
Kanye west is the george lucas of rap. Visionary who changes the game, then surrounds himself with yes men at the top. Vultures 2 is kanye wests phantom menace.
i think its just throwaways and remixes.
Ima be honest, never woulda guessed that this is what a Kanye West album would sound like 20 years removed from his debut album. Might be time to hang it up, hate to see it…
Ye not the same, Kim took a Part of him.
Can’t blame Kim
I appreciate this review but theres zero chance I'll ever again support anything kanye related directly i.e with my time or $.
yeah, i get it!!! he pissed a lot of people off, and it was his own doing
I'm not saying the album is bad, but I def got a few tracks in and decided to return to the JPEGMAFIA joint. IDK when Ima give this one a full spin, but nothing was jumping out and demanding attention. Ye droppin in a very crowded field right now. Whatever else, this gotta be one of the best years in rap ever.
The songs r just so boring and soulless, not to mention the production / mixing is horrendous
Only thing slowed up vultures was that Kendrick drake shit
I’m definitely in the minority, I actually enjoyed the album. It’s slower than Vultures 1 and Kanye rapping isn’t nearly as bad as the first album.
Its unfinished sadly it has highlights
Ask for my third thoughts the album still getting worked on lol
Didn't even fully listen to the first one but I watching Kai's video rn it's not that bad. the lyrics aren't what I like to hear But Kanye never had a good one to me anyways. The Sound and production is really fye so far though🔥🔥 makes me kinda want to listen to the first one
As far as I'm concerned, Kanye retired after Donda. I'm gonna pretend V1 ans V2 never happened, and we left off on a pretty good note with Donda.
Both “Vulture” albums wasn’t appealing to me at all. Honestly, I wouldn’t mind him just sticking to producing at this point. “Donda” was his last album that I actually loved.
It's ok at best
😂 yeah 💯
It’s not good be honest!
Honestly , boring, i tried to listen to it. But it felt like the people around him were not interested in putting that effort. Compared to Commons and pete rocks album, lupe fiasco or schoolboy q felt like they actually put love into it. The love for hip hop wasnt there for this album. I think the instrumentals were dope but the lyricsl content not there. Just my thought.
Salute.
tee fire
My man!!
5/10
Fair
I like Promotion but the rest ain’t it for me
I just think he's bored, lonely, and regretful of mistakes.
I think Ye still has a lot of value as a producer but not as an emcee. Since Ye, his output has been on a steady decline :/
He’s tarnishing his legacy dropping this garbage, the guy who has arguably 7 classics dropped this toilet water album, the first one wasn’t good either if they were mixtapes they might not have been that bad but dam smh
Honestly this feels like a bootleg version. I wouldn’t be surpsied if he has the actual version behind the paywall on his site (don’t forget he wanted to do direct to consumer)
Happy field trip is out tho …the rest is ….aight
This album was awful but I respect your opinion so I won’t trash it too much. I used to be a Kanye west fan but after his last like 3 or 4 albums I’m so tired of his music being mid/lazy/trash
Gives me Donda 2 vibes... I'm a huge kanye fan, but this was butchered... a few gems but not touching V1.
Definitely quite a few unfinished thoughts on here
@@RobMarkman thoughts on Denzel Currys latest project 🤔.
Albums 1-6 (TCD, LR, G, 808s, MBDTF, & WTT) all have infinite playback value. Everything else is just…*crickets*…I’ll even throw Jesus Is King in there. Great album, but Ye is not Kanye. He’s one of these new artists man. Smh.
Or this is who Ye always was and he just lost the polish ? 🤔
@@RobMarkman Welp. At least we experienced the good years.
@@gemsound lol
Kanye never disappoints
Never ever?
7.8/10 pretty good
Kanyes last good project was Kids see Ghost. Everything after that has been super mid or trash.
Donda was pretty good
Donda was good
Production on the album was dope but meh overall
I’m sorry this album is trash donda was way better than this. the lack of quality for this album even for Kanye standards says a lot might be he’s downfall coming.
Vultures 1 was great at first, still has great tracks but not a really great album experience after awhile. This was terrible on first listen, Bomb is one of the worst songs ive ever heard.
Naaaaaaaah you can’t diss the kids lol
Didn't listen not my thing rob ye been mid for a while
Terrible album, sounds unfinished! What was he thinking. Apart from maybe 3 songs the rest are not great.
Album was mid tbh
Throw in the towelllllllll ye
you sound like a old head here a bit Vultures 1 & 2 are good
@@eltonkinki4818 i guess. I might be lol
Dont tell me its wack
I’m a Kanye Stan and this album is bad. All the leaks of the songs he “reworked” were 20x better. He really destroyed Sky City, time moving slow, River and please for the love of god take that freestyle BS off at the end of 5:30! The leak version with the soulful singing in the beginning is soooooooo much better. Idk why ye be having perfect ass songs and then he goes and reworks them and totally messes the song up. He’s been doing this since Wolves. Like leave well enough alone bruh. I just think ye don’t wanna be perfect anymore. I think he thrives off imperfections and we’ll never get another mbdtf or anything close to it
I never heard any of the leaked versions.