Antonín Dvořák - Symphony No. 3 in E flat major, Op. 10

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  • (1873)
    Symfonie č. 3 Es dur, Op. 10
    00:00 Allegro moderato
    11:33 Adagio molto, tempo di marcia
    28:27 Finale. Allegro vivace
    Czech philharmonic orchestra, Václav Neumann
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    Česká filharmonie, Václav Neumann
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    Symphony no.3 in E flat major was premiered by Bedřich Smetana in 1874. It was a great moment for young Dvořák, because it was his first big score played in public. You can heard in this symphony typical dvořák's melodies but also some inspiration from Liszt or Wagner (work with motives, harmonies).
    CZ
    Narozdíl od předchozích symfonií Dvořák ve své třetí pracoval s tématy úsporněji a více se zaměřoval na motivickou práci. Docílil tak formálně jasné symfonie, která slavila okamžitý úspěch. Pro Dvořáka to byla zvlášť důležitá událost, jelikož premiéry se zhostil sám Bedřich Smetana. Mladý Antonín tehdy nejspíš seděl u violového pultu.
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  • @LakydaSalt
    @LakydaSalt 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A glittering first movement ❤

  • @paulchristopher2135
    @paulchristopher2135 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    A really magnificent score. Probably one of Dvorak’s earliest distinctive masterpieces. The last few minutes of the finale are REALLY exciting!

    • @patrickmcgraw9168
      @patrickmcgraw9168 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The last few minutes of the finale always make me think of seagulls.

  • @warrenmalach5528
    @warrenmalach5528 10 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    One of my favorite Dvorak Symphonies. I love the tranquil opening.

  • @fulviopolce9785
    @fulviopolce9785 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Questa sinfonia era stata mandata da Dvorak ad un concorso , dove Brahms era giudice.
    Ebbene Brahms ha premiato vincente questa sinfonia !
    E' la prima composizione con cui Dvorak viene musicalmente riconosciuto .
    Personalmente adoro le prime quattro sinfonie di Dvorak: sono i sui capolavori giovanili e se ovviamente si riconoscono influssi eterogenei ,non si può non apprezzare una capacità ed ispirazione eccezionali.
    Trovo questa esecuzione di Neumann una delle migliori , tra cui il ciclo delle sinfonie e poemi Sinfonici eseguiti da Neeme Jarvi ,con la SNSO ,su Cd Chandos , da me il preferito.
    Un ringraziamento va comunque a Jiri per questo ottimo 'upload.

  • @kerrichristopher740
    @kerrichristopher740 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Great piece. Wish we could hear this performed live.

  • @youneverknow00
    @youneverknow00 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Skvělé. Spolu se symfonií č. 1 Zlonické zvony mé nejoblíbenější Dvořákovy symfonie.

  • @vickyhart1420
    @vickyhart1420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great energy. This
    Particular symphony
    Makes me think of
    The beauty in life
    It self.

  • @paulmesler5715
    @paulmesler5715 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    21:24-22:00 absolutely beautiful.

  • @65attila
    @65attila 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Glorious!!!!! I have been listening to this regularly for several years now.

  • @Ellie.styles
    @Ellie.styles 10 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I love this

  • @GenesisProgressive72
    @GenesisProgressive72 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Such a great work. Very distant from the first two. Thank you for sharing.

  • @olliefisher5435
    @olliefisher5435 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    putting ads on symphonies should be illegal

  • @giginorman1955
    @giginorman1955 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A fine performance.
    A great orchestra.

  • @patrickmcgraw9168
    @patrickmcgraw9168 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    IMO, his symphonies get better in an almost linear progression until the last, with the 3rd being a big exception. It really stands out among his early work.

  • @shnimmuc
    @shnimmuc 8 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    There is the Dvorak essence from the first bar, wow, a wonderful unknown symphony.

    • @carlconnor5173
      @carlconnor5173 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      shnimmuc I've loved it for 40+ years.

    • @carlconnor5173
      @carlconnor5173 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      shnimmuc Except for # 8, the early ones are my favorites.

  • @rogerackert6573
    @rogerackert6573 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This symphony is not played much because of all the errors in the parts. The problems seemed to have been ironed out in this fine performance. Most orchestras these days don't want to take the rehearsal time to fix these things. This is one of my most favorite of the Dvorak symphonies.

  • @garydlloyd7718
    @garydlloyd7718 9 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Yes, a possible connection to Wager is logical, but Dvorak always sounds like Dvorak. I have no idea why this symphony is not better known, or better appreciated. Neumann may be unequaled in this symphony.

    • @carlconnor5173
      @carlconnor5173 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Gary Lloyd A bit like Brahms sometimes, quite a bit like Bruckner at others. But you're quite right: Dvorak has a unique sound, with the most affable demeanor to be found in music. Yet he can be profoundly contemplating too. He and Bruckner are most underrated.

    • @jannisopel
      @jannisopel 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      He was close friends with Brahms who is only 8 years older.

    • @alaalfa8839
      @alaalfa8839 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Dvořak about Wagner: "Antonin Dvorak's recollections of Richard Wagner(retold by Josef Michl, translated by David R. Beveridge)"Although I’m not a Wagnerian at the bottom of my heart, I like Wagner very much and I’m glad that I saw him with my own eyes. It was during the time when I received a state grant and because of that I went to Vienna. At the court opera they were preparing Tannhäuser and Lohengrin, and Wagner led the rehearsals. Naturally I found out about that and, although the public was not allowed to attend the rehearsals, I managed to get in with a certain gentleman. The rehearsal was in full swing. I began looking around for Wagner and immediately I saw him! He was in the parterre. He had a cane in his hand, walked about from one place to another, and listened. But he frowned and was always dissatisfied: again and again he poked the conductor in the back with his cane and said something to him. The orchestra stopped playing and waited for the conductor and Wagner to finish speaking. And hardly did they resume playing when Wagner poked the conductor in the back with his cane again. As I say, I appreciate the fact that I saw Wagner, but I would have been even more pleased to have spoken with him. But at that time I didn’t have the courage to introduce myself to him, because Wagner was at the pinnacle of his fame and I was still unknown to almost everybody."...Interesting articles. www.antonin-dvorak.cz/en/various/dvorak-on-himself/3

    • @remomazzetti8757
      @remomazzetti8757 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      When Dvorak wrote this excellent symphony, Brahms hadn't published any symphonies yet and he wouldn't have heard anything by Bruckner. I think this Symphony is the best of Dvorak's first 4.

    • @Tomsfilipsons
      @Tomsfilipsons 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jannisopelI always remember a quote from Stravinsky's book where he's laying out the historic development of German music: "...Brahms - Wagner - Mahler ..." He thought that because Wagner was harmonically so much more advanced than Brahms, Wagner must be younger than him...

  • @phazonruler3000
    @phazonruler3000 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm hearing Tchaikovsky and Liszt in this. I love it

    • @stevesiegelbaum3534
      @stevesiegelbaum3534 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No Tchaikovsky at all. Unlike Dvorak, who did it brilliantly, Tchaikovsky was incapable of actually developing a theme. He couldn't hold a candle to Dvorak. And Liszt was probably a much better pianist, but was a second rate composer.

    • @TsangSnake
      @TsangSnake 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@stevesiegelbaum3534 Listen one more time Tchaikovsky's 5th symphony and tell me again he can't develop a theme. Which is by far more interesting than 1st movement theme of this 3rd symphony, notwithstanding how brilliant is the development. And saying Liszt is a second rate composer is just abyssal ignorance about music history.

    • @stevesiegelbaum3534
      @stevesiegelbaum3534 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Abysmal ignorance? Tsk, tsk. No, it's merely an opinion, - mine. If you think Liszt is not a second rate composer, it simply means you have a higher opinion of him than I do. I can think of at least 25 composers who most would regard as better than Liszt. If you're not one of them, so be it. But I wouldn't get so worked up about it. @@TsangSnake

    • @TsangSnake
      @TsangSnake 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well obviously I respect your opinion. But above all, I envy your surprising hability to rank composers with such ease. Liszt opened a gateway to XXth century. Not the place to have a such debate though, but I'm sure you'll change your mind some day @@stevesiegelbaum3534

  • @thomasrollig6002
    @thomasrollig6002 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ganz und gar grandioser zweiter Satz. Sehr gute Interpretation.

  • @jesemepardens9151
    @jesemepardens9151 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The opening of the 2nd movement is similar to the one in the New world symphony

  • @Tomsfilipsons
    @Tomsfilipsons 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    21:58 Yeah, Antonin, I like Wotan's goodbye to Brunhilde too.

  • @patrickcrosby3824
    @patrickcrosby3824 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Just curious. Does anyone else hear the Frère Jacques quote at 29:14? Or are you all sleeping, like brother John? :)

    • @patrickcrosby3824
      @patrickcrosby3824 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you don't believe me, listen to the first minute of this and come back here. th-cam.com/video/RXI7KEUbSxM/w-d-xo.html

    • @TJConcept1995
      @TJConcept1995 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks for that. I hadn't noticed it before.
      Don't know if you've heard the slow movement of Mahler's first symphony? If you haven't, I'd recommend having a listen!

  • @jean-michelprillieux5012
    @jean-michelprillieux5012 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Le second mouvement est très sombre et la fin du second mouvement évoque un grand chagrin alors que le troisième mouvement est gai et sautillant. Après la pluie vient le beau temps...

  • @vilebrequin6923
    @vilebrequin6923 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this from his analogue or digital cycle?

  • @Rodrigo-rx3nf
    @Rodrigo-rx3nf 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The beggining of the 3º moviment is so mozart/rossini

  • @audreyhtt1529
    @audreyhtt1529 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    yup

  • @nellyjocarmona9292
    @nellyjocarmona9292 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Excelent!!! Wagner influence is notorious!!!! Beautiful!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @johnl405
      @johnl405 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Nelly Jo Carmona I'm not a musicologist, but I don't think so.

    • @lila2k03
      @lila2k03 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@johnl405 Quote: "Many of Dvořák’s early works seem to have Wagnerian influences, but this symphony is widely considered to be the most Wagnerian of them all.[5][9] Throughout the symphony his use of harp is particularly Wagnerian. The influence of Wagner is particularly notable in the second movement, where Dvořák seems to allude to motifs from Wagner’s Ring Cycle, as well as using harmonies and orchestrations in the style of Wagner, particularly in the strings, harp, and brass" Anyone who has heard Rienzi or any Wagner at all can tell "it's in there"

    • @remomazzetti8757
      @remomazzetti8757 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This symphony maybe influenced by early Wagner, but certainly not the Ring which hadn't even been performed in its entirety yet. Influences don't matter as long as the composer digests the influence and makes the end result his own. And NO ONE but Dvorak could have written this marvelous piece.

  • @carlconnor5173
    @carlconnor5173 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    . Kertez is my Dvorak conductor. Kubelik is good, but give me the sonority and warmth of Kertez any day. And Neumann's tempo just sounds off throughout. e.g. The Adagio is soooooh slow! And everything sounds disjointed in the other movements.

  • @garygordon4116
    @garygordon4116 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    why he look like that

    • @arthatron2486
      @arthatron2486 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Probably genetics

  • @rogernortman9219
    @rogernortman9219 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love Dvorak's first 7 symphonies. Too bad he wrote the 8th and 9th!

    • @Tomsfilipsons
      @Tomsfilipsons 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Tomorrow at dawn, pistols or swords, your choice.

    • @dutchpropaganda558
      @dutchpropaganda558 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      your opinion is just wrong

    • @rogernortman9219
      @rogernortman9219 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dutchpropaganda558 Dutch, Musical taste is NOT an opinion. When I have lstened to ttvorak's last 2 symphonies, I feel EMOTIONALLY LOUSY INSIDE~!!!! Therefore I will nnever listen to them again!!!!!!!!!!!!! He can keep his goddamned nationalism! Roger

    • @rogernortman9219
      @rogernortman9219 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dutchpropaganda558 Dutch, If you want to know what "OPNONS" are worth, in Donald Trump's "OPINION", an effective antidote to the virus is to inject Lysol!!!!!!!!!!!! Chew THAT in your Wheaties!!!!!!!!!!!!! Roger

    • @dutchpropaganda558
      @dutchpropaganda558 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@rogernortman9219 opinion still wrong lol. Oh sorry I mean "OPNON".

  • @rogernortman9219
    @rogernortman9219 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    To Frank McGraw, the 8th and 9th stink!

  • @windstorm1000
    @windstorm1000 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Santa Fe Symphony (a very good regional symphony) just played this--and, to my surprise, I didn't care for the work at all--it felt derivative--not Czech at all. I didn't think Dvorak had found his voice until his Slavonic Dances a few years later. I love this composer's works--but this work sounded like he was trying to be something he was not--maybe to impress musical authorities??

    • @edwardhoward5525
      @edwardhoward5525 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hate t say this but I really don't agree. I think a lot of early Dvorak Symphs 1,2 & 4 for example - lack melodic distinction but this has one glorious melody after another.
      I prefer to the 5th but my favourite is the 6th.
      Please feel free to disagree

    • @dionbaillargeon4899
      @dionbaillargeon4899 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I agree that nos. 1 and 2 are more run-of-the-mill/tentative early works, but nº4 stands at a completely different level of maturity. Probably one of my favorite symphonies ever.