For those of you don’t know that engine that took Stanley away and down that shaft was a Brigadelok. A German narrow gauge engine used by the German army during WW1.
@@Hutch-916 While you're right that the mine engine, the engine _actually_ taking Stanley away, is an Alice-class (a difference from Awdry's MSR layout, where it's a cabless Decauville Type 1 0-4-0PT)... jwwprod3862 is talking about the cabbed, gray, grim-faced, spark arrester-equipped engine that Stanley _sees_ it as, the one that first shows up in Stanley's flashback when he finds his line blocked by a corpse.
@@Hutch-916 OP of this thread is talking about the grim-faced, gray, cabbed, spark arrester-equipped engine that Stanley _perceives_ it as. The engine that also shows up in his flashback to the trenches. While the mine engine is indeed represented by a Dinorwic Alice-class here, Stanley is hallucinating it as another engine entirely. An engine he associates with death.
I love that the engine that haunts Stanley since his first encounter with death is a (presumably) captured german Brigadelok engine, goes back to the trench railway history as well as what Stanley associates with death from than on, causing him to start to see and see it everywhere in his final days- Not to mention no words being needed, all visuals and sound design, i absolutely loved this!! No. 2 is my favorite (im military as well so im biased) and he has so much potential in terms of story with his engines basis and im glad someone covered the darker parts of his presumed history in the trenches. Bravo!!!
@@percysixmilesi did a lot of research for my own little Stanley headcanon, i wanna do a "book" series on him, so i did some research and theyre so interesting- i wont yap tho!!! Loves every second of this, keep up the amazin' work!!!
The open line ahead, yet so very out of reach.. Right from the moment you first hear the hymnal tones that imbue the beginning with the solemnity of the fleetingness of life, the insanely well-crafted atmosphere seizes the viewer in a breathtaking chokehold through the entirety of this lifecycle and the creeping inevitability that grows closer with every transition in an aging timeline. Tonally one of the best pieces of work I've ever seen. Bravo Miles!!
Miles, this is exceptional!! You utterly NAILED the sound design, that transition between the war and the quarry carried SO well, and the cut to Stanley in the mine, with the dripping... Awww JESUS that's eerie! Some of the sfx associated with the spectre, like the one in the jump scare, SO good. I love the song in the middle too, fits Stanley and the era so perfectly, gives that great depression dust bowl no-shits-given american on the porch with a banjo in a hooverville vibe. The crashes turned out so good!! Miles, this is so moving and grounded and full of vision. You are the only person in the world who would make this; everyone whispers about Stanley and theorizes but nobody would convey his story like this and tastefully weave in history the way you do. Your work has a subtlety that is so hard for me and most people to capture, but comes across soooo well in your films. So much communicated here with no dialogue, brilliant storytelling, atmoshphere, and modelwork. I'm glad Stanley didn't jump off the tracks at lightspeed and stare into the camera, that would have been really scary!!
Thank you so much, Sam! I really appreciate everything you said, ESPECIALLY since you know what I struggled with when making it! That really means a ton, and I seriously appreciate all the help you gave with this. Not only filming, but the great advice for sound design too. Thank you so much! I, too, am grateful that Stanley didn't jump off at lightspeed and stare at the camera. This would have been a much scarier video!
Attempting to piece it together as best I can, Stanley is having flashbacks to his time in the trenches, with there being one engine in particular (presuming a Brigadelok that got captured?) that either got destroyed or ran into the ground and abandoned, and its memory haunts him. Stanley's tanks cause him to derail, the MSR does their thing, he gets transferred via the Mine Engine (it has the colors anyway, but it's a Quarry Hunslet) and he has a flashback, seeing the engine has the one from the trenches. It causes him to freak out, break down and flood the mines, dooming the railway. I always did feel bad for Stanley. Given he was on the surface, sticking out of shed by the line at Cas-ny-Hawin in the Rev's layout, a small part of me hopes the Arlesdale surveyors found him.
It's a shame to me Stanley's fate, considering all he potentially went through, and the fact his poor performance was due to his tanks and the poor job that was done regauging him. I like to think he might have been found as well, maybe taken to a museum at the very least. Always loved the idea of him getting restored, but of course anything is better than to be left to rust in the ruins of Cas-ny-Hawin.
@@AmirPrinceling It really is unfortunate, and it isn't even an issue with gauging. His class' water tanks were just very top heavy. They probably could've taken his tanks off and turned them into a makeshift tender, or done some other adjustments, but for whatever reason, they didn't. Yet they still seemingly went through several locomotives annually...
@firstnamlastnam2141 I don't even think that was even necessary, I've read that it was his gauging and all the lack of baffles in his water tanks, because he was cheaply built due to being made for War. So realistically, he could've been very useful with some more investment (baffles in his tanks to give him stability on the rails and do a better gauging job), but the MSR lacked the finances to do something like that, which is likely why they bought an engine like Stanley to begin with, who likely wasn't very expensive on account of his build quality.
I felt so bad for Stanley! He messed up but to be sealed away forever in a mine? A sad fate indeed. Also the switch from the Mine Engine to that evil Narrow Gauge engine is so good (I called it "Evil Tim" because it looked a lot like Tim is meant to with the sideplate & cowcatchers)!
I love this so much. I was planning something with Stanley in the trenches already, but this has inspired me even further, so thank you for that boost. Your stuff's amazing, please keep it up.
So creepy dude! I honestly didn't understand the context of this very much until reading the comments (but after reflecting I remember you telling me some of Stanley's story before). Making this a silent film really added to the eeriness for sure (Yeah no shit, why else would miles do that???)! The Stanley face is particular was really impressive I thought, and seeing him as a generator and being lifted out of the back of the shed was super cool. Great attention to detail bro, amazing work
Very unique how you were able to tell the story without narration and instead with quality models, sets and claustrophobic sounds to create the mood. Great work!
I think this is the first time a jumpscare's actually gotten me in AGES, well done! Well done all around, the entire video is absolutely spectacular, from the visuals to the general plotline to the WONDERFUL sound design that absolutely pulls this whole thing together. I cant overstate how much I love this! Great job!
Beautifully written, masterfully told. There was no dialogue, yet I knew exactly what was happening. Visual storytelling at its finest, well done indeed! Stanley’s a character that’s got so much potential, and you’ve certainly captured that potential here!
Bro this looks amazong even better than the railway serues in general the charm of this has more power than series 1 through 16 combined,and thats saying alot. Cheers to you lads if youtube had an award for railroads this would be it
Never thought of a steam engine having PTSD before, but if any of them would it'd be a trench engine. He sees both the Hunslet taking him to the mineshaft and the death waiting for him there as German Brigadeloks since those were the enemy in the war, and being trapped in the mine is made all the worse by its similarities to an abandoned trench.
Duke told him about the fate of poor Stanley to try and knock some sense into him, but Smudger just laughed “HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE!” 5:58 is that sound the mine flooding? I’m pretty sure that happened in the books
i decided to do some research on trench railway locomotives after this to see if you based the death engine on something. it seems that you based it on a german locomotive... i see, i see
The idea that Stanley intentionally caused accidents in a bid to escape death, only to bring himself closer to it, is really depressing. He gambled his life away. When he was turned into a generator, it paid off… until the debt collector came and made him regret it.
I don't think it's talked about enough Stanley was built for war and had a lot of issues running. Awdry accidentally made a character, who is a disabled war veteran and chose to villainize him and killed him off. Low-key think he deserved better.
Yeah, I feel like he could’ve been better if he wasn’t written as a jerk, in my eyes I see Stanley as a chill and a “keeps himself to himself” kind of engine if that makes sense.
@@flyingscotsman611productions I can see this. Involuntary derailments would have been cool. I'm imagining he says the "few spills" line with increasingly less enthusiasm every time, until eventually it becomes clear he's reassuring himself, and not Duke and the men tasked with rerailing him. "In the States they don't give a dime about a few spills. They... Shouldn't care here... Right?" Said Stanley, his voice trembling. He looked more anxious than arrogant or confident or self-assured. Duke just sighed, staring at the American for a long time. "We do here." Stanley didn't say a word until he was in the shed for the last time.
Man Stanley was an ass on the MSR, but we never really took much thought about the shit he experienced on the front lines…Which explain why he always always a chip in his boiler…And yet, he never got a happy ending after what he endured
@@TheGreatNateVA Agreed, the Baldwin trench engines were made that way because of the high likelihood of them getting destroyed due to their roles, and the lack of baffles in his water tanks, which is the reason why they can't go fast, combined with the shitty regauge attempt, resulted in what could've been a valuable asset to the MSR becoming a mere stationary pumping engine/generator.
@virmirfan Man just imagine how much of an asset he could've been. I wish he could've gotten another chance on the Skarloey, but of course too late for that now. He really would fit perfectly as a SR engine.
@AmirPrinceling Yeah, plus even if they did find him, considering how he broke down causing the mine to shut down due to it flooding, I won't be surprised if he is beyond repair... Not to mention that, if he is just the boiler, controls, firebox, smokebox, and funnel that remain, it would be cheaper to build a new engine
I do have one potential quibble with this. I say potential because it depends on just how exactly the lore of Stanley's placement at the mine aligns with the layout detail it's based on (on Awdry's MSR layout, Stanley/what's left of him as a pumping engine is located in an aboveground shack with his smokebox and extended funnel sticking out).
It's interesting to think that this was ultimately born of Awdry's difficulties with his model of Stanley. For those who don't know, Awdry's model of Stanley was a poor runner that was *excessively* prone to derailing. He was unable to get it to run reliably, and ultimately got so frustrated that he said "Sod it", retired the model, and broke up the body to use for detailing. Considering Awdry's patience with other troublesome models (like the Graham Farish Black 5 he adapted to be Henry, which he actually went to the trouble of overhauling multiple times including one that was still a work in progress when he passed), Stanley's performance must have been *especially* absymal even by '60s OO9 standards.
I don’t think their where literally narrow gauge tracks going through trenches I thought they would be built to supply depots as a more cheaper way of getting stuff to the front other then French steam engines just being at risk
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Dear lord nothing good happens at Cas-ny-Hawin
Remind me never to visit Cas-ny-Hawin
Alas, there he lies in the caves of Cas-ny-Hawin
Damn Dane’s at it again
For those of you don’t know that engine that took Stanley away and down that shaft was a Brigadelok. A German narrow gauge engine used by the German army during WW1.
The irony
Or at least, that's what he was _seeing_ it as. In reality it was just one of the mine engines.
Wdym?? that's literally a Dinorwic Alice Class (Welsh)
@@Hutch-916 While you're right that the mine engine, the engine _actually_ taking Stanley away, is an Alice-class (a difference from Awdry's MSR layout, where it's a cabless Decauville Type 1 0-4-0PT)... jwwprod3862 is talking about the cabbed, gray, grim-faced, spark arrester-equipped engine that Stanley _sees_ it as, the one that first shows up in Stanley's flashback when he finds his line blocked by a corpse.
@@Hutch-916 OP of this thread is talking about the grim-faced, gray, cabbed, spark arrester-equipped engine that Stanley _perceives_ it as. The engine that also shows up in his flashback to the trenches.
While the mine engine is indeed represented by a Dinorwic Alice-class here, Stanley is hallucinating it as another engine entirely. An engine he associates with death.
I love that the engine that haunts Stanley since his first encounter with death is a (presumably) captured german Brigadelok engine, goes back to the trench railway history as well as what Stanley associates with death from than on, causing him to start to see and see it everywhere in his final days-
Not to mention no words being needed, all visuals and sound design, i absolutely loved this!! No. 2 is my favorite (im military as well so im biased) and he has so much potential in terms of story with his engines basis and im glad someone covered the darker parts of his presumed history in the trenches. Bravo!!!
Thank you so much!! I really appreciate you reading into it!
@@percysixmilesi did a lot of research for my own little Stanley headcanon, i wanna do a "book" series on him, so i did some research and theyre so interesting- i wont yap tho!!! Loves every second of this, keep up the amazin' work!!!
Reprobate furry.
Repulsive furry.
The open line ahead, yet so very out of reach.. Right from the moment you first hear the hymnal tones that imbue the beginning with the solemnity of the fleetingness of life, the insanely well-crafted atmosphere seizes the viewer in a breathtaking chokehold through the entirety of this lifecycle and the creeping inevitability that grows closer with every transition in an aging timeline. Tonally one of the best pieces of work I've ever seen. Bravo Miles!!
you come up with the most insightful comments ever, and i love you dearly for that
Thank you so much, Annie!! That's so beyond kind, I really appreciate it!
@@r41lway329 I know she's the best!!
Poor Stanley.
No engines deserved such a fate.
And yet he did,
For thee had seen worse
As such, he has gone mad by coming off the rails
His actions, let him do this…
Stanley always seemed to get the short end of the stick…
Shame.
Also the narrow gauge death engine looked really neat…
Thank you! And I agree, poor Stanley.
Miles, this is exceptional!! You utterly NAILED the sound design, that transition between the war and the quarry carried SO well, and the cut to Stanley in the mine, with the dripping... Awww JESUS that's eerie! Some of the sfx associated with the spectre, like the one in the jump scare, SO good. I love the song in the middle too, fits Stanley and the era so perfectly, gives that great depression dust bowl no-shits-given american on the porch with a banjo in a hooverville vibe. The crashes turned out so good!!
Miles, this is so moving and grounded and full of vision. You are the only person in the world who would make this; everyone whispers about Stanley and theorizes but nobody would convey his story like this and tastefully weave in history the way you do. Your work has a subtlety that is so hard for me and most people to capture, but comes across soooo well in your films. So much communicated here with no dialogue, brilliant storytelling, atmoshphere, and modelwork.
I'm glad Stanley didn't jump off the tracks at lightspeed and stare into the camera, that would have been really scary!!
Thank you so much, Sam! I really appreciate everything you said, ESPECIALLY since you know what I struggled with when making it! That really means a ton, and I seriously appreciate all the help you gave with this. Not only filming, but the great advice for sound design too. Thank you so much!
I, too, am grateful that Stanley didn't jump off at lightspeed and stare at the camera. This would have been a much scarier video!
Attempting to piece it together as best I can, Stanley is having flashbacks to his time in the trenches, with there being one engine in particular (presuming a Brigadelok that got captured?) that either got destroyed or ran into the ground and abandoned, and its memory haunts him. Stanley's tanks cause him to derail, the MSR does their thing, he gets transferred via the Mine Engine (it has the colors anyway, but it's a Quarry Hunslet) and he has a flashback, seeing the engine has the one from the trenches. It causes him to freak out, break down and flood the mines, dooming the railway. I always did feel bad for Stanley. Given he was on the surface, sticking out of shed by the line at Cas-ny-Hawin in the Rev's layout, a small part of me hopes the Arlesdale surveyors found him.
It's a shame to me Stanley's fate, considering all he potentially went through, and the fact his poor performance was due to his tanks and the poor job that was done regauging him. I like to think he might have been found as well, maybe taken to a museum at the very least. Always loved the idea of him getting restored, but of course anything is better than to be left to rust in the ruins of Cas-ny-Hawin.
@@AmirPrinceling It really is unfortunate, and it isn't even an issue with gauging. His class' water tanks were just very top heavy. They probably could've taken his tanks off and turned them into a makeshift tender, or done some other adjustments, but for whatever reason, they didn't. Yet they still seemingly went through several locomotives annually...
@firstnamlastnam2141 I don't even think that was even necessary, I've read that it was his gauging and all the lack of baffles in his water tanks, because he was cheaply built due to being made for War. So realistically, he could've been very useful with some more investment (baffles in his tanks to give him stability on the rails and do a better gauging job), but the MSR lacked the finances to do something like that, which is likely why they bought an engine like Stanley to begin with, who likely wasn't very expensive on account of his build quality.
Masterpiece!!
I hope it gets chosen for Tugs pick of the week
God, me too!
A Masterpiece brimming with thought and effor whilst showing without telling the tale of an unfortunate soul.
I felt so bad for Stanley! He messed up but to be sealed away forever in a mine? A sad fate indeed.
Also the switch from the Mine Engine to that evil Narrow Gauge engine is so good (I called it "Evil Tim" because it looked a lot like Tim is meant to with the sideplate & cowcatchers)!
outstanding use of practical effects, this is on the level of the tv series.
Thank you very much!
Lose the pervert user icon.
I love this so much.
I was planning something with Stanley in the trenches already, but this has inspired me even further, so thank you for that boost.
Your stuff's amazing, please keep it up.
Dude, that is just gnarly...
Easily one of the best I've seen in 2024 fantastic! 👍
So creepy dude! I honestly didn't understand the context of this very much until reading the comments (but after reflecting I remember you telling me some of Stanley's story before). Making this a silent film really added to the eeriness for sure (Yeah no shit, why else would miles do that???)! The Stanley face is particular was really impressive I thought, and seeing him as a generator and being lifted out of the back of the shed was super cool. Great attention to detail bro, amazing work
Thanks Roman! Will made the face and did such a good job! I really appreciate, thank you so much!
Very unique how you were able to tell the story without narration and instead with quality models, sets and claustrophobic sounds to create the mood. Great work!
Thank you so much, I really appreciate that!
Nice work freind 😎
This is a bloody masterpiece my guy. Poor Stanley…
Thank you!
@ you’re welcome my friend 👍
Woah...
I think this is the first time a jumpscare's actually gotten me in AGES, well done! Well done all around, the entire video is absolutely spectacular, from the visuals to the general plotline to the WONDERFUL sound design that absolutely pulls this whole thing together. I cant overstate how much I love this! Great job!
Thank you so much!
Bro just made the hardest TTTE Halloween short of 2024
Oh... poor Stanley
What a beautiful story. Such beautiful scenery that tells a tale dialogue never could. Well done!!!
Thank you, I appreciate it!
Wonderful job! The atmosphere, set-design, model-work, it just comes together really nicely. Very well done!
This was more shaking than any narration could have done. Great Work!
Thank you so much!
Beautifully written, masterfully told. There was no dialogue, yet I knew exactly what was happening. Visual storytelling at its finest, well done indeed! Stanley’s a character that’s got so much potential, and you’ve certainly captured that potential here!
Thank you very much! That means a lot!
It's best to look both ways when crossing the street
Bro this looks amazong even better than the railway serues in general the charm of this has more power than series 1 through 16 combined,and thats saying alot. Cheers to you lads if youtube had an award for railroads this would be it
Degenerate brony.
Reprobate brony.
Gross brony.
For the people who want the song here it is:
MISSISSIPPI JOHN HURT - Nobody's Dirty Business 1928
I got chills. And that's a good thing.
Never thought of a steam engine having PTSD before, but if any of them would it'd be a trench engine. He sees both the Hunslet taking him to the mineshaft and the death waiting for him there as German Brigadeloks since those were the enemy in the war, and being trapped in the mine is made all the worse by its similarities to an abandoned trench.
Repulsive brony.
Gross brony.
stunning.
What an incredible short! The shot of the trench engine being swept away in the fog was excellent!
Duke told him about the fate of poor Stanley to try and knock some sense into him, but Smudger just laughed “HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE!”
5:58 is that sound the mine flooding? I’m pretty sure that happened in the books
This is beautiful and incredibly cinematic
Poor smudger/stanley I love the way you use the facial expression and the way you did the background 😊😊
i decided to do some research on trench railway locomotives after this to see if you based the death engine on something. it seems that you based it on a german locomotive... i see, i see
war never changes
This is very well done! I love this mate
I don't know how you do it, man, but you continue to amaze us with your direction, practical effects, and editing skills. You are doing god's work ❤❤
That's very kind thank you!
The idea that Stanley intentionally caused accidents in a bid to escape death, only to bring himself closer to it, is really depressing.
He gambled his life away. When he was turned into a generator, it paid off… until the debt collector came and made him regret it.
I don't think it's talked about enough Stanley was built for war and had a lot of issues running. Awdry accidentally made a character, who is a disabled war veteran and chose to villainize him and killed him off. Low-key think he deserved better.
Yeah, I feel like he could’ve been better if he wasn’t written as a jerk, in my eyes I see Stanley as a chill and a “keeps himself to himself” kind of engine if that makes sense.
@@flyingscotsman611productions I can see this.
Involuntary derailments would have been cool. I'm imagining he says the "few spills" line with increasingly less enthusiasm every time, until eventually it becomes clear he's reassuring himself, and not Duke and the men tasked with rerailing him.
"In the States they don't give a dime about a few spills. They... Shouldn't care here... Right?" Said Stanley, his voice trembling. He looked more anxious than arrogant or confident or self-assured.
Duke just sighed, staring at the American for a long time.
"We do here."
Stanley didn't say a word until he was in the shed for the last time.
Very awesome
5:33 scared the crap outta me
👏
Man Stanley was an ass on the MSR, but we never really took much thought about the shit he experienced on the front lines…Which explain why he always always a chip in his boiler…And yet, he never got a happy ending after what he endured
Yeah, plus his design itself is not meant for speed, alongside him not being properly regauged to work with the narrow gauge track
@And being a cheap build too
@@TheGreatNateVA Agreed, the Baldwin trench engines were made that way because of the high likelihood of them getting destroyed due to their roles, and the lack of baffles in his water tanks, which is the reason why they can't go fast, combined with the shitty regauge attempt, resulted in what could've been a valuable asset to the MSR becoming a mere stationary pumping engine/generator.
@virmirfan Man just imagine how much of an asset he could've been. I wish he could've gotten another chance on the Skarloey, but of course too late for that now. He really would fit perfectly as a SR engine.
@AmirPrinceling Yeah, plus even if they did find him, considering how he broke down causing the mine to shut down due to it flooding, I won't be surprised if he is beyond repair... Not to mention that, if he is just the boiler, controls, firebox, smokebox, and funnel that remain, it would be cheaper to build a new engine
I do have one potential quibble with this. I say potential because it depends on just how exactly the lore of Stanley's placement at the mine aligns with the layout detail it's based on (on Awdry's MSR layout, Stanley/what's left of him as a pumping engine is located in an aboveground shack with his smokebox and extended funnel sticking out).
It's interesting to think that this was ultimately born of Awdry's difficulties with his model of Stanley.
For those who don't know, Awdry's model of Stanley was a poor runner that was *excessively* prone to derailing. He was unable to get it to run reliably, and ultimately got so frustrated that he said "Sod it", retired the model, and broke up the body to use for detailing.
Considering Awdry's patience with other troublesome models (like the Graham Farish Black 5 he adapted to be Henry, which he actually went to the trouble of overhauling multiple times including one that was still a work in progress when he passed), Stanley's performance must have been *especially* absymal even by '60s OO9 standards.
Another great film of yours!
Thank you!!
top tier visuals amazing job
Thanks!
Stanlstanley is just smugger
The sound of rushing water
Bro I was gonna do a short film just like this
scary
I don’t think their where literally narrow gauge tracks going through trenches I thought they would be built to supply depots as a more cheaper way of getting stuff to the front other then French steam engines just being at risk
Weren't the mines flooded meaning Stanley is actually considered drowned here?
Trains dont need air, since they dont have lungs. Soooo
@cec_oregon If the mines are still flooded then he's most likely dead. His boiler is most likely corroded and decayed while submerged down there.
@@ElsePerson well its only been 50 yrs, and the titanic has been underwater for over 100 so he is probably alive since the titanic is mostly there
Stanley was not a bad engine. He was a victim.
Why didn't you use a real 009 brigadelok? Those models exist
How did the engine change basis?
Fnaf music
Hold on wait now ik that's Stanley, and that he was in WWI, but what's the other stuff about
Hello miles
Who is that scary engine
Music used?
Pls?
It's in the credits!
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