All That Remains' Phil Labonte - Wikipedia: Fact or Fiction?

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    All That Remains vocalist Phil Labonte sits down with Graham 'Gruhamed' Hartmann for a round of 'Wikipedia: Fact or Fiction?'.
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  • @adeformedpig3743
    @adeformedpig3743 7 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    I've met Phil. He's an awesome person.

    • @ttvxgloki7449
      @ttvxgloki7449 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A deformed pig nice sun bro picture

  • @igorcort
    @igorcort 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    As a follower of heavy metal from the 80's and 90's. Iron maiden, Judas, Death, Megadeth... I have to say that discovering this band was like a new beginning. And I discovered thanks to them great bands like: Killswitch Engage. Bullet for my Valentine. Five finger death punch. Trivium.... But they will always have a special place in my heart.

  • @hayes4762
    @hayes4762 9 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    Phil seems like such a chill, down to earth guy... regardless of my views on their music (ive been listening to them on and off since For We Are Many was released) I like Phil as a person

    • @ogbee9690
      @ogbee9690 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      isn't that every singer pretty much?

    • @massgeographer
      @massgeographer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Imma bit late haha but you should check out his livestreams on Twitch. His name is PhilThatRemains

    • @daoyang223
      @daoyang223 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dude was in the Marines. I think a lot of that rubbed off on him. Dude's super chill.

  • @MikeyJVoice
    @MikeyJVoice 8 ปีที่แล้ว +278

    one of the best screams in metalcore hands down. it's a shame he doesn't scream as much.

  • @gubernational57
    @gubernational57 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Even though Phil didn’t spend much time in the corps I’m still going to call him a marine. He went through boot camp and earned his EGA. Semper fi phil

    • @fuddyruckers3
      @fuddyruckers3 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He completed the crucible and boot camp. Definitely a Marine

    • @tazwelch
      @tazwelch 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Graduation = Marine for life. Semper Fi we don’t die, we go to hell and regroup!

    • @cwrichardson3
      @cwrichardson3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Really???

  • @whogavehimafork
    @whogavehimafork 7 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I had no idea Phil was in the Marine Corps. Pretty fuckin cool, even with as short as his run was

  • @erikdrummingod
    @erikdrummingod 9 ปีที่แล้ว +394

    Close your eyes. Phil sounds like George Clooney

    • @cjalmighty
      @cjalmighty 9 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      iam_rehab you just blew my mind. wtf.

    • @oHoriizon
      @oHoriizon 9 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      iam_rehab Fuck.. Cannot unhear...

    • @BlightBreedOfficial
      @BlightBreedOfficial 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +iam_rehab No :( You just ruined everything haha

    • @wachtacharlesable
      @wachtacharlesable 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      thanks a lot dick lmao

    • @blizzardkhaos
      @blizzardkhaos 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh wow he does sound like George

  • @mikehink4062
    @mikehink4062 6 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Quick story: went to see Killswitch at the HoB Orlando in 2013 (I think, maybe ‘12) and after an hour of waiting for them to come out, Adam D comes out, apologizes, says Howard can’t make it and that tickets would be honored for anyone that came back the following night. I went back, only to find out that Howard would again not be there, but the band had already knew this (that was he end of Howard in KSE) and Phil flew down from Mass on less than a days notice and did the show and they fucking rocked so hard. I was so glad I went back (it was like an hour drive) and Phil and the boys killed it. Really appreciate Phil and his ethics though. That’s it. Rock on.

    • @kristalmeth4452
      @kristalmeth4452 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I have seen both Jesse and Howard, but only got the chance to meet Phil, dude is chill as fuck

    • @Aedalas
      @Aedalas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I wish that we had got more Phil That Remains than we did, unfortunately something so awesome was bound to be in limited supply. The candle that burns twice as bright also burns twice as fast.

    • @mikehink4062
      @mikehink4062 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Aedalas man, you scared me for a minute there - the way you worded it made me think he passed away and I hadn’t heard about it - I had to immediately google that shit but was happy to see my assumption was wrong. I do agree tho, I wish we had gotten so much more than we did. Much respect to all those guys. I didn’t mention it in my original post but Adam D had no problem saying it the second night that the reason Howard wouldn’t leave his hotel room was because he was paranoid from being on a binge of a substance I won’t name and there in lies the downfall of KSE as we knew it with Howard. And happy, crazy Adam’s demeanor completely changed as you could tell he was straight pissed at having to announce that. So disappointing, I loved KSE, saw them at least 10 times with Howard and a few with Jesse but getting to see them with Phil was probably my favorite because it was a once in a lifetime experience and he absolutely killed it and they played at least a 2 hour set if not more to make up for people having to come back. Adam went through 3 guitars from his sweat affecting the pickups/electronics on the guitar, it was epic.

    • @Aedalas
      @Aedalas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mikehink4062 That whole mess with Howard was just a huge disappointment. First hear them with the original lineup and thought they were okay but honestly never cared much for Jesse. When Howard replaced him I thought it was the greatest thing that ever happened to that band, I was instantly hooked. Then Howard went and fucked it up. The worst part is I can't even blame the band because he did it himself.
      Sadly I never could get into Jesse's vocals. I wish they had found a third singer when they kicked Howard. He's not bad or anything, it just doesn't click for me and I can fully understand why others like him. No hate, I just liked Howard (and Phil) more.

    • @mikehink4062
      @mikehink4062 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Aedalas I... I couldn’t have said it better myself. Talent wise, Howard was the ONE when it came to KSE, and I preached it to the high heavens to anyone who wasn’t familiar with them or not into them but like you said, he was the cause of his own demise and it’s sad because there was so much talent there. It’s just a shame. They were literally my favorite band throughout those years. And you probably already know this but when they were auditioning singers after Jesse left originally, Phil came in second, losing out to Howard.... Makes you wonder how things would have turned out had the opposite happened. That said, I’ll forever be grateful for my All That Remains though.

  • @bubbernub651
    @bubbernub651 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This is why i like metal man. The people who do it are just the realest people. It seems like they all really do it for the enjoyment and i love that.

  • @jo1995able
    @jo1995able 7 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    love phil! my inspiration to be a frontman
    cool guy
    keep it metal phil ooh rah!

  • @elijahmontgomery4146
    @elijahmontgomery4146 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Not a marine, 11b in the Army. I can attest, boot camp was, despite many unpleasant moments, an enjoyable experience.

    • @gadsdenflyer7353
      @gadsdenflyer7353 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@A_Little_Piece_Of_Music No boot camp is anything like it used to be.

  • @matthewmartin184
    @matthewmartin184 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hey Phil I did some work at your mom's house I didn't realize it at first until she had told me I think you guys are great I listen to your song two weeks all the time and thunder rolls

    • @bobafatty111
      @bobafatty111 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The beginning of this sounds like an "I screwed your mom" joke lol

  • @elkornu8
    @elkornu8 8 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Holy crap I was a 0341 in the marines as well from 2005-2010

  • @leebailey6181
    @leebailey6181 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    All that remains is headlining my state music festival metal in the mountains

  • @DRyan-mx5jj
    @DRyan-mx5jj 6 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Cool, he was in the Marines!
    Navy Vet 1994-2004

    • @danmorgan7826
      @danmorgan7826 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      D. Ryan Hooyah, Navy! I’m an IS3.

    • @tylerdees4850
      @tylerdees4850 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for your service brother!🙏

    • @8dmeetsmetal60
      @8dmeetsmetal60 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome Army Vet 2017-current

    • @andreacampomizzi9826
      @andreacampomizzi9826 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you all for serving! 🇺🇸

    • @Mothfood3
      @Mothfood3 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you

  • @cdow11
    @cdow11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like watching things like this, he seems to be highly introverted, but to see these people just shooting the shit and respectful and laid back is awesome

  • @AnonymityAnon
    @AnonymityAnon 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good videos with good artists. It must be awesome work for Loudwire and talk with those people. I don't understand why so little views with so great quality, thanks!
    Hegde Clippers!

  • @legioncronasstark2947
    @legioncronasstark2947 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Phil is awesome i have now met him twice and he is so badass

  • @NathanielSaintPaul
    @NathanielSaintPaul 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was happy to hear his personal taste in music. Very interesting to see people that really like to branch out.

  • @raditwer2686
    @raditwer2686 5 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    When are they going to do Brent Smith from Shinedown? Or Ben Burnley from Breaking Benjamin?

  • @chriscraven9335
    @chriscraven9335 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Enjoyed this one. Phil seems like a very cool dude.

  • @PapaCottonDCLXVI
    @PapaCottonDCLXVI 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Phil is easily one of my favorite follows on Twitter.

  • @callumwarren6716
    @callumwarren6716 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love these

  • @galvinchristianrai8449
    @galvinchristianrai8449 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He sings so good in this calling

  • @Alexander5R
    @Alexander5R 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Phil is super cool, he seems like a great guy.

  • @The_Other_Ghost
    @The_Other_Ghost 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fuck yeah, I was at the Vermont show. Friendliest band, especially the guitarist, bassist, and drummer.

  • @SophiaAphrodite
    @SophiaAphrodite 8 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    You don't have to believe in ghosts Phil. They believe in you, they believe in you..........

  • @Disturber93
    @Disturber93 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Metalcore Legend !!!

  • @kellymcgrath5541
    @kellymcgrath5541 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    the masterkey shirt is epic
    KNOCK KNOCK!

  • @jonbigspual7177
    @jonbigspual7177 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This man is a badass

  • @dumcrapcat
    @dumcrapcat 9 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    cool he went to Basic training where i use to live :)

  • @shaneanderson7228
    @shaneanderson7228 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Steve was Phil's drummer wtf that wicked cool

  • @ag-88802
    @ag-88802 7 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I wish I had a free pass to every All That Remains show.

  • @HaL3Sniping
    @HaL3Sniping 8 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    that cm punk shirt tho

    • @403Gypsyking
      @403Gypsyking 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      HaL3 cm punk is laughable now

  • @matthewhale9831
    @matthewhale9831 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Loving that C.M. Punk shirt!

    • @bobafatty111
      @bobafatty111 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Noticing the CM Punk shirt while also having a BMTH pfp is fucking sick

  • @mabl3
    @mabl3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow the last bit he talked about being a fan of Nickelback and that he doesn't listen to metal anymore makes everything so much clearer. No hate, do whatever you like Phil.

  • @scar3fr3ak
    @scar3fr3ak 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    My favorite parts are when there doing a "fact or fiction" show and Graham mispronounces Phil's last name and Phil looks at the camera, noting the irony. Then Graham immediately continues with talking about people *getting the name wrong*.

  • @CLuvTravels
    @CLuvTravels 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I love the internet....one person thinks phil is the devil, one person thinks he is god, and the rest of us are in the middle

  • @nipulkradmsinatagras8293
    @nipulkradmsinatagras8293 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would trade my voice with him anytime of the day.

  • @kalamitoon5460
    @kalamitoon5460 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the best metalcore singers lml The order of things

  • @nicktollkuhn4300
    @nicktollkuhn4300 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hell yeah marine here. Love atr

  • @alexanderdelrisco1257
    @alexanderdelrisco1257 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Speaking of Skrillex, I can’t believe before he became Skrillex he was the singer for post hardcore screamo Emo Metalcore band From First to Last and of course he reunited with the band and we don’t know what his current position is in the band now. But it’s crazy that he went from Emo to Dubstep electronic DJ ing. That’s nuts!

  • @SoIcey317
    @SoIcey317 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    but i love the show i find it very interesting

  • @steelerfan750
    @steelerfan750 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Love the CM Punk shirt

  • @bodycount7260
    @bodycount7260 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All That Remains RULES !!! Fucking Phil ROCKS !!!! Phil and Howard best metal singers ever !!! R.I.P. Oli we miss you.

  • @JT_Grogan
    @JT_Grogan 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool guy

  • @michaelmcdonald4639
    @michaelmcdonald4639 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This dude seems cool

  • @walleye306
    @walleye306 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nearly died laughing when he told the earthquake story haha

  • @VakoCavender
    @VakoCavender 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    this man is so funny

  • @connordeal6402
    @connordeal6402 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    surprising amount of fact.

  • @nickshepley2566
    @nickshepley2566 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    WAIT Phil was in Shadows Fall?!!

  • @eliidk6723
    @eliidk6723 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    His vocal fry is off the chain

  • @l.shehan.official2256
    @l.shehan.official2256 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pill i love you my brother 🤘🏽🤘🏽🤘🏽🤘🏽🤘🏽💀💀💀❤❤❤❤

  • @mikerandall8289
    @mikerandall8289 7 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    close your eye. he sounds like johnny Knoxville

    • @averagejoegamming209a3
      @averagejoegamming209a3 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi I’m Phil lavonte welcome to jackass.

    • @dfm-fn1qg
      @dfm-fn1qg 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@averagejoegamming209a3 labonte*

    • @jeffreydean5112
      @jeffreydean5112 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      His voice is like a cross of Johnny Knoxville and George Clooney.

  • @bodycount7260
    @bodycount7260 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Phil Fucking Rocks !

  • @JWWellsxx
    @JWWellsxx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It was great to see, that he thinks, what I think, about new metal bands like Bring Me The Horizon.

  • @tripleshits
    @tripleshits 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Phil talks so fast 😂😂

  • @GlenGlingo9
    @GlenGlingo9 9 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Fact or Fiction with John Petrucci?

  • @ZX-cq1vx
    @ZX-cq1vx 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    ATR! Yeah!

  • @romanczwakiel5506
    @romanczwakiel5506 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    We need a BMTH/ ATR collaboration. Now.

  • @AnonMedic
    @AnonMedic 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had no idea Phil was a Marine. Thats awesome.
    Also he's a Taylor Swift fan, that's awesome too lol

  • @hchoe741
    @hchoe741 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    man who handles the sound for these vids?! some are loud, some are quiet, all over the place.

    • @coolguyhino92
      @coolguyhino92 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      THANK YOU!! I'm spazzing out every other wiki fact vid confused why my audio settings kept lowering.

  • @evergray5063
    @evergray5063 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wonder if he gets disability? My friend broke his ankle in boot camp, but thought it was just “hurt” so he kept running on it for a week until it became unbearable. In that week, he did so much damage that it was pretty much irreparable, so they got him surgery, sent him home and gave him military disability for life. Not a huge monthly check, but a check he’ll get every month the rest of his life.

  • @nkenzdotjpg
    @nkenzdotjpg 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    he sounds like george clooney and johnny knoxville combined

    • @relentless.7638
      @relentless.7638 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh my God I cant unhear it. Clooney's voice with Knoxvilles almost Wisconsin-esque accent.

  • @Shaxigaming
    @Shaxigaming 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think he sort of looks quite a bit like Jason Newsted.

  • @SubsonicTimbo
    @SubsonicTimbo 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    That dude is a cm punk fan nice

  • @TammyStutzman-rb5sq
    @TammyStutzman-rb5sq 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    😊

  • @BlightBreedOfficial
    @BlightBreedOfficial 8 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    So it's not that he doesn't "like metal" it's just that most metal bands in the last 10 years have been nothing special.

    • @ryanperson6307
      @ryanperson6307 8 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      No, it's just that as you age your taste in music changes.

    • @MetaLeir93
      @MetaLeir93 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ryanperson6307 and you sell out too

    • @ChanceStearns
      @ChanceStearns 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@MetaLeir93 oh shut the fuck up. That's the stupidest thing people say. They aren't selling out they're just trying something different. Imagine playing the same kind of music constantly for ten years straight you'd get tired of it too.

    • @GOffensive
      @GOffensive 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ChanceStearns They are just shity musicians.

  • @jakefrederick8429
    @jakefrederick8429 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Adam d from killswisch edged

  • @larrylooney4495
    @larrylooney4495 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bet phil is a cool mother to hang out with

  • @moshpitrob305
    @moshpitrob305 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish I had unlimited all that remains passes

  • @philipmedford6812
    @philipmedford6812 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    His middle name is also my middle name lol 😂 Philip Stephen Medford

  • @AFriendlyHeathen
    @AFriendlyHeathen 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    steve and tango were the best!

  • @vegancrue13
    @vegancrue13 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Perpetual Doom's demo Sorrows End is one of the best brutal death metal albums ever!!! If the band stayed together I predict they would be better then Shadows Fall & All That Remains. The music would have only gotten better I bet

    • @KevinTheMetalhead
      @KevinTheMetalhead 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They actually got back together and re-recorded a song from the demo. Have you heard it? It's heavy af.

  • @yugolago
    @yugolago 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    He's got a French family name Labonté. He's dad or grandfather are they French from Quebec ? I'm just curious...

    • @justinuv
      @justinuv 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lot of French Canadians in our area. But can’t speak for him

  • @digitalvei
    @digitalvei 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I didn't know Pippin is a metalhead

  • @tom10goo
    @tom10goo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    CM Punk shirt. You fucking rock

  • @KerryFairbanks
    @KerryFairbanks 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Open your eyes. Phil is George Clooney

  • @bobelkiniii1461
    @bobelkiniii1461 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Me to Phil all conservative talk all the time

  • @nordicheat906
    @nordicheat906 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    If only phil did this interview now...i play destiny 2, lift weights and post on twitter in my free time lol

  • @beefsoda1
    @beefsoda1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Phillips father is kelsey grammer. I bet you didn't know that.

  • @kalebniver9334
    @kalebniver9334 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice CM Punk shirt

  • @riffheart
    @riffheart 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sad Fact is that Oli & Mike don't have an Wikipedia page.

  • @SoIcey317
    @SoIcey317 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    graham has a amish looking beard lmao

  • @jwaschke666
    @jwaschke666 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Over and Under on if Phil is packing?

  • @preacher5388
    @preacher5388 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice CM Punk Shirt Though !!!!!!!!!¡!!!!!!!!!

  • @ChucklesBiscuits
    @ChucklesBiscuits 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    first time this dude is bigger than the guest

  • @allenpetrick7791
    @allenpetrick7791 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why he look like Brantley Gilbert's brother or is it just me

  • @mindmonster8665
    @mindmonster8665 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol man, I'm the same way. I thought since Im getting older was a bad thing. I don't really listen to metal any more..... Kinda hate myself lol

  • @TKD187
    @TKD187 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That is so trippy🤔 so I find this random ass shirt in my house of bring me the horizon, my mother-in-law brings over clothes all the time so I just find random shit in my house and mess with my wife like who the fuck shirt is this lol anyways I found that shirt did not know who that was or what it was so I looked it up and then discovered this awesome ass band ,this is the first time I've seen this and today is May 6th 2021 and my favorite singer starts talking about bring me The horizon 🤔 it's just trippy when the universe starts pointing at something these guys must be something really special

  • @camronneighbours9275
    @camronneighbours9275 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cm Punk! woo!

  • @mrtalkative91
    @mrtalkative91 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    haha such a weird ending. a metal vocalist saying he doesnt listen to metal, let alone a lot of music, and then saying BMTH is the only new metal band he likes. none of that makes any sense

    • @hardcoreman187
      @hardcoreman187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My thoughts exactly! Thank you! Let the confusion begin! LOL

  • @Samurai_Aldo
    @Samurai_Aldo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    If Phil says he likes Nickelback, you like Nickelback.

    • @jeffreydean5112
      @jeffreydean5112 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And now they sound like nickelback lol beat

    • @hardcoreman187
      @hardcoreman187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      idgaf what Phil says, I hate Nickelback! But, I love All That Remains! (At least before they started sounding like Nickelback. LOL)

  • @thortheimpaler7962
    @thortheimpaler7962 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Paris Island is a complete shitshow and I respect people for getting through it on that merit alone.

  • @dakotacarlson4532
    @dakotacarlson4532 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amusing how ATR has had such longevity, success, and quite frankly buried Shadows Fall. But, Phil didn't fit the bill.

  • @justinuv
    @justinuv 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Perpetual doom is making music now!! Check it out on Facebook.

  • @mbb05jb
    @mbb05jb 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    i'm here because of Tim Pool

  • @darkboss219
    @darkboss219 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    He knows about the motrine 😂🤣

  • @huwmorgan74
    @huwmorgan74 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well, it's a job.

  • @patriottomyself
    @patriottomyself 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Phil looks alot like one of my brothers lol kinda wierd