Star forts an Star cities, meltology, world's fairs and Expos of the 1800s, tartaria, mud flood, 10 years of studying these topics I mentioned and absolutely no doubt our King did exactly what he said he was going to do.. we're in the short season.
"For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be" (Matthew 24:21, KJV). This was a tribulation that was focused on the Jewish people during the 3.5 years prior to August AD 70. Their world was the then known Roman World and not our global inter-continental earth. Through another source I learned Dr. N.T. Wright alleges this first century tribulation will be a type of a wider, more world encompassing tribulation that is yet future. I do not mean to disparage Dr. Wright for this proposition, because his contributions generally are of great value to the Christian community. I believe Jesus articulated this statement in regard to this "first century" great tribulation . . . where the Lord precisely stated, "it will be unique and will not occur ever again." It is interesting how when Bible students genuinely seek to understand eschatology, including various positions Christians have advocated for, they are left confused. Notwithstanding, with fresh eyes, and an open mind the Lord opens our eyes to pivotal verses whereby we are helped to eliminate particular "end of the age" approaches, such as dispensational, pre-millennialism, historicism, or partial preterism.
@@deanfloyd8931 sometimes we aren’t satisfied because the result doesn’t match our expectations. Just like the Jews expecting an earthly king… they were disappointed with what Jesus was offering even though it was better.❤️🙏
@lorenzor124 Evidently, you reject the legal aspects of contractual obligations. Using your standard God would be a covenant breaker. I can't accept that possibility.
I always thought it interesting that the ones who supposedly knew the scriptures the best were the ones who persecuted Jesus the most when he was physically in front of them.
You gave your friends something to think about. When our SS teacher started teaching this we all said “at least he’s making us dust off our Bibles”! Hopefully, some of them will dust off their bibles and recognize what you told them that night. This helps me to know what to expect from others. God will get this through to someone.
G and W search engines have censored my independent research. Dispensationalists told me my work (independent research-- empirical evidence) was "too abstract". 😊
Gill Bates is a very false prophet! Jabomania is a primitive cult. So too the love for war. We need to stop sacrificing humans! We are supposed to be living in the 21st century! A.D., not B.C.!
I change my views all the time, It is all about growing and learning in our Lord and Savior regardless. I constantly keep learning and being corrected by those in greater wisdom! I LOVE IT! I pray it never STOPS!
I get your frustration at 23:00. When someone asks me "I just want to know who the Beast of Revelation is". Then I say "Eliazar ben Ananus and/or the Jewish leadership of Jews." They look at you like you just said blue feels like what nine smells like. Lol
If you want to know who the beast of revelation is let me help turn your flower pot upside-down 🙃 Revelation 13 is the beast description right like a leopard lion & bear? In hosea 13 the beast is the one speaking even describing himself as the leopard lion & bear. It will shock you when you find out the beast is also the one talking to Mosheh (moses) at the burning bush! Before anyone attacks me for this comment go study it for yourself & take it to God for truth because that's what I did & the truth will truly set you free.
@@markhicks2800 awww thanks☺️. But it doesn’t work with my friends… I think it’s hard for those close to us to listen because they have seen our weaknesses up close🤪
@@kristinbingamon568 Ad hominem arguments are never acceptable, although people continue to use this technique for persuasive purposes. I think it reflects someone's lack of intelligence. To redirect a person who contends in this manner, one might suggest it is morally wrong to attack an opponent's character. This person should rather focus on one or several contentions an individual may embrace.
They conveniently and deliberately misrepresent the other Kristen. "Obviously Revelation was written in the 90s"......... It's more obvious that it was written in the 60s..... the temple was still standing..... Revelation 11.
You've regained your edgy attitude! Your exegesis is not only interesting: It's correct. You are showing respect for truth. Why, then, are your friends not interested? I think they are using belief as a wall against live religion -- loving, learning, discovering the Miracle of Existence, exploring the realm of feeling, overcoming inner conflicts, nurturing the heart. Christ returns every day, but most pay no attention. The path to heaven requires work, commitment, distance from society. It's not for everyone!
Hi Kristin, There is another "heretic chick" on the other side of the world down under in Australia. Her TH-cam channel is called Crystal Clear. She has very in depth and well developed commentary mirroring many of your views.
Don’t let anyone get you down sister. Once I seen it a couple years ago I had to become a heretic too lol😂 if you’re going to believe Christ and his apostles. You’re going to have to be a heretic too or just don’t believe his words it’s up to them. God bless you sister.
Christ was not a Christian. He was not a Catholic. He did not live in a palace. He did not worship the failed apartheid experiment Truman got the U.N. to implant in 55% of Palestine on 29 Nov 1947. He did not thump the Bible while "consulting" with prosthetics. He didn't worry about 501C3 exemptions. I don't think he would be very popular, if he paid a visit to a U.S. church.
May you help me by showing what verse Full Preterist use that is not in its hermeneutical context ? Where they say it is fulfilled but they do not have a referent verse in the discussion to stand on ?
@DWW1972 "These are the days of vengeance that ALL THAT IS WRITTEN MAY BE FULFILLED". The bible was fully penned during the old covenant, and must be fulfilled during that covenantial period. Obligatory requirements are not applicable once a new covenant is fully in place.
@@kristinbingamon568I think full preterism is less fearful than futurism. There’s no future Antichrist no mark of the beast or great tribulation. People are watching the news and seeing things that look like Bible prophecies and waiting to be raptured away instead of resting in the finished work of Jesus Christ.
I find with myself that when questioned on my belief as how i was raised I'm not angry, I'm more embarrassed at the lack of knowledge that i have to explain and how we should be able to explain our position but listen to the folks who are sharing their understanding of the Bible and go back and varify their translation. This is why I'm here as there is more studying i have to do and God does not make things confusing, we just have to do our own due diligence and pray for discernment daily and have that passion for truth so we are accountable when questioned. Uugh i hope this made sense...
@@petethesquatchie that’s great! I know I have been in situations where my blood boiled when I couldn’t adequately explain my convictions, but I’m trying to do better and be open to learning.❤️🙏
@@JacobSchlosser-c6qComing to fulfilled eschatology has led to me having many more opportunities to share the gospel with atheist/agnostics. It makes Jesus a true prophet not a false prophet!!
Good points on how we should be considerate to each other. If Christ had to go away in order for Gods spirit to be in us again that's a big deal. That means we were dead and are now alive in Christ. All that attitude has to be put on by faith. And that's the challenge in teaching this new creation of who we are in Christ. Keep up the good work of building faith in us 👍👍
When someone tells you that you are wrong but has nothing to prove you might be wrong, that is the height of ignorance. Ignorance can be very hard to deal with, especially when they will not hear you out.
@@greg7129 it would be interesting to be able to ask them how they feel the discussion went? In their minds maybe they felt like they were making really great points. I don’t know.
I haven't listened to all of this video yet.... I'm still working on the one before. I'm sure I will love it because I am thoroughly enjoying ALL of your content! ❤ I was hoping to make a suggestion of some content that I'd like to hear in the future and that is about the basic principles of hermeneutics and how to help people understand their bible ❤❤
Defensive Offensive is the reaction you confronted, it is "a compensatory zeal from personal uncertainty", the anger exposes their lack of certainty. I am a Praeterist because John's gospel was written to witness Jesus as the Messiah, and the only one who was designated to be witness was John, so John witnessed all prophecy of Daniel as fulfilled as that was the purpose of the Messiah.
You gave your friends something to think about. When our SS teacher started teaching this we all said “at least he’s making us dust off our Bibles”! Hopefully, some of them will dust off their bibles and recognize what you told them that night.
If all prophecy has been fulfilled then we missed the two witnesses dying in the streets of Jerusalem while the world makes marry and gives gifts to one another must happen around a upcoming Christmas from the sounds of it and also at a last trump whom did survive a would be mortal wound to the head while the world can be controlled by a mark. Hmmmmmm all prophecy fulfilled my little toe. Behold the bridegroom cometh be ready be watching be waiting it will be good for that servant who's Master finds them watching when he comes like a thief in the night at the last trump in the twinkling of an eye see you faithful at the place He prepared for you.
The best way to keep from finding the truth is to believe that you have already found it. Please don't stop listening to other opinions. You may find that it's not as simple as Gary makes it sound. I appreciate your desire to know God, most people are too busy to even care about Him.
The truth is Christ(Joh.14:6) As long as we keep focused on Him, are we not of the elect? At this point, Joh.16:13 can begin to be fulfilled in the believers life.
Thanks ive been leaning more towards this view because of some of the scriptures that you quoted but i am still unsure of what part of the timeline we are in. Or if things can repeat.
sorry your book club meeting didn’t go as you might have expected 🙁 maybe after the meeting their curiosity sparked and they might consider reading the book? or did they return the book to you? would any of your friends consider selling it if they won’t read it? l try to get it but they don’t deliver to Canada 🙁 ( just an idea) again thank you for sharing your experience with us!
I watched your complete presentation and can relate whole heartedly. Jesus went through the same thing with his disciples. Misunderstanding goes with the territory. All we can do is plant seeds, pray, and leave the rest up to God. The more layers of the truth I’ve peeled back the more potent the truth has become. My latest challenge was the subject of the supposed lost tribes of Israel. The question is were they really lost? Modern Judeo Christian eschatology believes the descendants of the twelve original tribes of Israel no longer exist. I’ve been looking into this for the last two months and have come to realize this assumption isn’t true. Along with reading several articles and books dating back to the 1800’s on the subject I’ve viewed several video presentations on a couple youtube channels covering the subject. I’ve come to the conclusion the descendants of the original twelve tribes do indeed exist to this day. If you feel up to the challenge check out some E Raymond Capt video presentations on youtube. Capt was a archaeologist, writer and film maker. He passed away but made some great presentations. Thank you for doing what you do!
25:10 i’d be willing to bet that what scares her is that this is the material that we are studying in this group, but I don’t know I wasn’t there. If that was the impression you got in person maybe it is.
Great video! So sorry you had to go thru that...been there, done that as well. As for dual fulfillment, I see prophecy as having a physical fulfillment and spiritual fulfillment. God gives us the natural (physical) to explain the heavenly (spiritual)...See 1 Cor. 15:46. The temple for example. A physical one was built several times, but in the New covenant, we are the temple where God dwells (not built with human hands).
It's a lot to unpack as is biblical cosmology and the fact that this realm is flat, not spinning and protected by a dome firmament as mentioned in the Bible. We know preterism is the truth because the architecture from the past does not lie and most important - our King and Messiah did not lie when he told his apostles that he would return soon.
They didn't have the mark of the beast back when! they also didn't go around buying and selling things digitally he's coming back again and everyone will see it and everyone will bow down
@@rogerkreil3314 that is a good question. I think it is important to remember that in the “new heavens and new earth“ talked about in Isaiah 65 and 66 there is still death. That was shocking to me when I read it. What does that mean? It all comes back to our expectations of a physical kingdom instead of the spiritual kingdom that Jesus was offering. Inside the kingdom, the new covenant, through the blood of Christ we have perfect standing before God in spite of ourselves. Because we are clothed in his righteousness. As far as evil in the world today, as long as there are men on the Earth, there will be evil because it is The nature of man. You say it is getting worse, but I wonder if you have really considered how you could know that? And could anything ever be worse than crucifying the Lord of glory? That really and truly was the worst thing that mankind would ever and could ever do. Part of the reason things seem worse now is because we are constantly bombarded with negative media from all sides, and we forget to focus on the positive. It is up to us to be the love of God to others. We can truly make the world better by loving God and loving others. ❤️🙏. I do have other videos dedicated to that topic though. One of them I think is called “death is done!“ Let me know what you think after watching that one if you have time.
There is death and sin in the new heavens and new earth. Evil is not escalating. From our view point it may seem that way, but we only see a tiny blip in the timeline of history. Just read Josephus about how evil the Jews were in the first century,
I'm not sure why you think its escalating. At the time of the flood, every desire of the human heart was only evil all the time. How can it get worse than that? Human beings are evil. Jesus calls us evil. Rev 22:14-15 says that after everything else is done, the judgement, the resurrection, the defeat of Satan etc, there are still unsaved people outside the city. That is the state wee are now in. A person comes to faith in Christ and they become a eternal citizen of the true Israel and they enter the city. Or they remain dead in sin outside the city.
Goals of simply fellowship with Christian Ladies. Getting serious might have been overwhelming. Like asking you to read the Koran ~ British version. Challenging beliefs can be intimidating. Planted Seeds, but loosing your fellowship. So many have never had this teaching in their Spiritual Education. Triggering people with your Heresy. Cognitive Dissonance is painful. Sorry for your loss of friends.
if one has a secret place within them, add know how to go through the door on the other side, oh what stories you can tell. Real or not? Yes , believe Jesus is the door.
Don’t worry, it goes over their heads for the first couple of times. 😂 Double fulfilment - maybe another messiah will be born in Bethlehem too? 🙈 maybe the final messiah.
🔘 19:43 - Of course "parts of Revelation have been fulfilled." What about the child born of a woman crying in labor, in Rev. 12 ? . . . Isn't that CERTAINLY Christ ? 🔘 41:25 - Yes, the Anti-Christ actually IS in Revelation, for another name for the Anti-Christ is the "False Prophet" (1 Jn. 4:1-3), and the "False Prophet" is in Revelation (Rev. 19:20 & 20: 10), as 1 of 3 beasts thrown into the Lake of Fire, which, from comparison to the 3 similar beasts in Rev. 13, we can deduce that the False Prophet is actually the "Beast from the Earth" (13: 11-18).
'Death shall be no more, and never again shall there be sorrow or crying or pain.' Full preterism? It's actually terrifying. I believe we have not long moved through the .M. years
@@TheTinFoilHatOff I understand that it sounds ridiculous. I have a video called,” death is done.” Check it out if you have time and let me know what u think❤️🙏
@@TheTinFoilHatOff Death shall be no more, and never again shall there be sorrow or crying or pain.' Full preterism? It's actually terrifying. end quote When it happened, it wasn't terrifying, because the persecutions that were being carried out on them and causing them death, sorrows, tears, and pain, ended when their main enemy and persecutors(OC Jews) were wiped out by Rome.
It's 'the death' shall be no more or 'Death' shall be no more. It's not physical death or everyday sorrows, pains and tears that we all feel. This new reality was that of the New Heavens and New Earth in Rev 21 and 22 where there are still those (the cowardly, unbelieving, murderers,adulterers, sorcerers, etc.) who are outside the gates of the New Jerusalem. If the New Heavens and New Earth is a completely perfect state of existence, then how do those people who are outside the gates still exist? It's all about Covenant, and in the New Covenant, we have full fellowship with God. We can endure all things because we have His unfailing love forevermore.
If you believe Jesus already returned.. and if you believe all prophecies have been fulfilled. Why are you still thirsty.. for if I gave you something to drink you would never be thirsty again.
John 6:35 And Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life. He who comes to Me shall never hunger, and he who believes in Me shall never thirst. No one who receives from Christ is still thirsty.
As Christians I believe we should be all about having a personal relationship with Christ and concentrate on giving glory to God rather than telling others that I am right and you are wrong. This type of division is exactly what satan wants. Between this and people always asking and praying for what they want rather than glorifying God is exactly what’s wrong with the teachings and beliefs of “Christians” these days.
Where in scripture does it speak of a duel fulfillment? SDA's are good with that thinking. ugh. Yeah, I get your frustration, my fiancé thinks I'm nuts. She also doesn't want to explore the issue.
I do think some things in the OT were “ types and shadows “ but the problem for futurists is that Paul says in 1 Corinthians 10 that all the types and shadows were pointing to them ( Paul and his contemporaries) 2000 years ago.
I’m sorry she isn’t interested in examining the issue. 😢. But maybe if you give her some time to let it settle. My husband brings things up sometimes that initially I just reject and don’t want anything to do with, but after awhile sometimes it starts sounding less crazy😂. Other times I don’t disagree, it’s just not a topic that interests me.
@@darrendavis4731 maybe! But if so I think they wouldn’t be talking about “ crazy Kristin so much!😂. I think they are oblivious at this point but they might stumble across it someday😂❤️🙏. But it’s okay… we can disagree and still be friends👍
There is only 1 that opens the book and looks into it with proper insight. Rev 5. Only 1 knows the water of the whole truth that is worthy of a horse to drink.
@@danlds17 yes that is a perfect example. I would have pointed out to my friends that in 1 Corinthians 10 Paul said all the types and shadows were finding their fulfillment in “us” ( them 2000 years ago) but I thought that would just make some of them more upset.❤️🙏
It's really sad how closed minded, judgemental and insanely strange how quickly they are capable of not just casting one down as if they're lower than they're high and mighty all knowing ass runs over them by gossiping and back biting others but also how quickly the cast one out and can just walk away from them as if they dont even have a heart at all! Which is the exact opposite of what the teachings of Yahusua! Really doesn't make any sense how they can't see how this church of today and all their brainwashed congregations are actually being lead by the antichrist spirit that canonized {catholic approved) bible speaks about when it refers to those who claim to be God's peiple but don't have any love in them which is why they all have to continually lift each other up to place each one on their pedestals that they gaze down upon all of us that are so below them! We must pray for them and forgive them.. something they cant even do lol!
This discussion is almost hilarious. It's a contest of the wills and almost a contest of who is holier because of what they think they know about any given subject, eschatology or otherwise. "Vain conversation" is what Paul talks about, and it's exactly what this portends to be. Your arguments are almost "I like yogurt but my friend likes ice cream, so she's on the downward slope (I'm taking better care of my body.") All your talk here, is unnecessary and at the very least, creates division. Are we here to point out each other's differences, or unity all in a labor of love? You tell me.
There is nothing vain about understanding the correct gospel of Christ. Christianity is in the dark, they believe that God burns and tortures sinners in an afterlife hellfire. It is normal in Christianity to see God as being evil. How twisted is that? And you think that correcting those Christians who have been duped into this form of idol worship(false image of God) is causing division. That is what the whole point is. To bring division. Luke 12 51 Do you suppose that I came to give peace on earth? I tell you, not at all, but rather division. 52 For from now on five in one house will be divided: three against two, and two against three. 53 Father will be divided against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother-in-law against her daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law.”
For the most part yogurt is oftentimes a healthier alternative to ice cream. I would tend to side with the yogurt eater for longer durations, but the ice cream lover sounds like a good time.
Here is the foundation for the true prophetic timeline: We can know "when" we are on God's prophetic calendar. It is written in the book of 2nd Esdras. Chapter 11 contains a prophecy that describes a line of American presidents, four of whom are still alive, and two of them are being kept until "the end." All of them are old men. "The end" is fast approaching. Ezra wrote Second Esdras, chapters 11, 12, and 13 many centuries ago, long before the United States existed, yet he accurately describes a line of 15 US presidents starting with Hoover. This 100-year-long prophecy began fulfilling on March 4, 1929. It is now 95% complete. Its perfect fulfillment to this point has established its credibility. Ezra was not guessing. I have condensed the prophecy into a series of short lessons - my gift to you. Please allow me to guide you through them, step by step, and into understanding. Blessings to you and your loved ones.
When someone says I am a preterist, I wonder to myself what drives them to attach themselves to a label unless doing so gives themself some sort of pride based significance. Almost all religious teachers have an absolute certainty that the lies they believe and teach represent the truth but how can 10,000 contradictions all represent the truth. My conclusion is that religious teachers of every sect tend to be the least reliable purveyors of truth and almost all would go to war against Messiah if he ever did show up. Finally, as a former Christian pastor, I wouldn't trust anything any "Christian" had to teach because they are the blindest of the blind. The truth is available but you have to come all the way out of religion especially Christianity in order to find it. Come out of her my people!!!
Hi sister, be firm in your stance and stay the course with the Lord. I been researching Revelation 20:1 and I think the Lord did come and It seems that the 144,000 were taken at the time of the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple. I say that because if you go to Revelation 6:10-11 I think there are those asking the Lord when shall He have vengeance for their blood and He says for them to rest until their brethren, servants are killed as in the same as them, I think that is us, and everything will happen again, the Lord is going to come again. In Josephus there was famine, and destruction and fire and war even the Hebrews were crucified and those were the elect. Just a thought of investigating, because like you I cannot believe we are waiting over two thousand years for our Lord to return, His words are true and they life. The Lord bless you and protect and guide my brothers and sisters in the Holy name of Jesus Christ and in the Holy name of the Father Son Holy Spirit amen. ✝️🙏
You are certainly more mature and objective than me 😂. How rude they show up for a meeting without even reading the book. I think you planted some seeds though. I bet they secretly peek at the book again and maybe even read Matthew 24 a little more closely.
I’ve gotten to where I can’t do any Bible studies because it’s always spoon fed dispensationalism. Many of them are also hard core John MacArthur followers, who is a works Salvationist and Freemason. The Lord has always taught me more on my own by His Holy Spirit anyway. I am in the little season camp, but am open to full preterism as I have questions on both stances. One thing is clear though there is overwhelming evidence Jesus has already returned. It’s not a salvation issue, but I think it’s important to have humility and the honesty to admit that maybe you don’t know everything. These ladies are dealing with some serious cognitive dissonance and they simply don’t want to deal with what may actually be the truth. We have all been deceived at some point.
Proverbs 13:12: Hope deferred makes the heart sick( yeah people as in 2000 years), but a desire Fullfilled is a tree of life(like Revelation 20), study your Bible people!! You won’t be so mad ..
I am currently on the books as an SDA but God has led me to preterism. Cognitive dissonance is REAL!! It took me years to consider the seed my daughter planted about my church-once I let go of my biases, I came to realize that she was right!! Those are seeds that you planted in these friends and, in time and God working in their hearts, they may come to realize what you started in them. I’m very impressed by your willingness to be a Daniel and walk into the lion’s den. That couldn’t have been easy. I live in a community where almost everyone is SDA and they all know each other so it’s tough to have a different opinion. I’ve been very quiet about my beliefs but I am slowly planting little seeds. I love your videos! Keep them coming 😉
@@fossfam I believe that happened in 70AD and is a picture of the beginning of reconciliation to god through Christ. As people come to him they continue to stream through the gates of the kingdom even now❤️🙏. That’s how I see it but I understand where u are coming from🥰
@ So you believe after the Gog & Magog war, when God reigns down fire, that humanity continues indefinitely? This is a serious question as I’m just trying to understand, because in my opinion I read Rev 21 as though human life is over and everyone is judged at that time and told if they are going to heaven or hell. Also, after the war Satan is destroyed so why would we still be living in a time of deception, tempted to sin, etc. In my opinion, the idea that we are in the little season seems to make more sense. You don’t think so?
@ I used to see it more the way you are describing, but I couldn’t get past the fact that the millennium end with “the war “ where which is the same war in revelation 19,16 etc. against Babylon ( ie jerusalem/ the old covenant.). That ended in 70 AD. There is a lot to unpack. I want to do a video but I have to spend time doing my research to present a coherent case.😅. One thing is Jesus said in Luke that “ these are the days of wrath to fulfill ALL that is written.” The old testament predicted the end of sin and death so according to Jesus that must be ended in the first century.❤️🙏
@@fossfam So you believe after the Gog & Magog war, when God reigns down fire, that humanity continues indefinitely? This is a serious question as I’m just trying to understand, because in my opinion I read Rev 21 as though human life is over and everyone is judged at that time and told if they are going to heaven or hell. Also, after the war Satan is destroyed so why would we still be living in a time of deception, tempted to sin, etc. In my opinion, the idea that we are in the little season seems to make more sense. You don’t think so? end quote Revelation 20:9 They marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God’s people, the city he loves. But fire came down from heaven and devoured them. this is a prophecy and is consistent with how prophecy is spoken figuratively in scripture. what is the 'fire' that comes down from heaven and subdues God's enemies? Jeremiah 23:29 “Is not my word like fire,” declares the Lord, “and like a hammer that breaks a rock in pieces? The word of God which is the gospel of Christ is how Christ subdues His enemies. Jeremiah 5:14 Therefore this is what the Lord God Almighty says: “Because the people have spoken these words, I will make my words in your mouth a fire and these people the wood it consumes. The pagan nations who are symbolized as being(Gog and Magog) were subdued by the gospel of Christ. And by the second century Christianity was the main religion in the known world. It was not their flesh bodies that were devoured and destroyed, it was their heathenism that was destroyed by the fire from heaven (Gospel of Christ) The gospel of Christ is the weapon of the saints against their enemies. Rev 11 5 If anyone tries to harm them, fire comes from their mouths(gospel of Christ) and devours their enemies. This is how anyone who wants to harm them must die.
The deception spoken of is related to what really happened on the 3rd Day (resurrection). It involves the physicality of Jesus and the eventual abomination of desolation.
17 But you, beloved, remember the words which were spoken before by the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ: 18 how they told you that there would be mockers in the last time who would walk according to their own ungodly lusts. 19 These are sensual persons, who cause divisions, not having the Spirit. Jude is writing to his church in that 1st century and telling them that the certain evil men who had crept in their church were those scoffers and deceivers that Jesus warned them would come in the last days. If that prophecy was fulfilled 2000 years ago then the last days were 2000 years ago, there is no getting around this. and not only did Jesus and the apostles warn them about these certain evil men who had crept in their 1st century church, but so did Enoch prophecy about these same men, and said that these men would appear at the time when Jesus would come on the clouds of heaven with His holy ones. 14 Now Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men also, saying, “Behold, the Lord comes with ten thousands of His saints, 15 to execute judgment on all, to convict all who are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have committed in an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.” Obviously the judgment was coming on them and not a future generation.
@@denofearthundertheeverlast5138 I wish I had the musical knowledge to understand your comment but I grew up listening to classical music so I have no clue of what you are talking about🤔😂. Have you ever listened to Scheherazade by Rimsky -korsakov?🥰. It’s unbelievable.
@@kristinbingamon568 I was making a joke about a word play on "Post Millennialist" so I got "Post Malone-ist. I played classical guitar for many yrs and even heavy metal/ grunge...Post Malone is a white guy rapper/ singer thats been out for a while that the young kiddo's like...totally not my style of music.
If Jesus came already, don't you think we would have such an event thoroughly documented? There would of been no need for our current Bible. It's God word and would of been changed accordingly. You believe it was kept true for thousands of years and then God said he was done making sure we had his truth.
why does anything have to be written and documented when the 1955 year old temple ruins in Jerusalem speak for themselves? Jesus left the temple and was walking away when his disciples came up to him to call his attention to its buildings. 2 “Do you see all these things?” he asked. “Truly I tell you, not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down.” 34 Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. History proves Jesus was correct.
@ophiuchus9071 Because this would be documented just as the Old Testament and New Testament was documented. This was done because God lead the people to correctly document his word. You must believe that he decided to throw everything out the window 🪟
@@kbro7484 John 21:25 And there are also many other things that Jesus did, which if they were written one by one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that would be written. Amen.
@@kbro7484 Everything we need to read is already written down for us. God's word is complete. The Eternal Word of God is Jesus Christ, what more do we need?
@@ophiuchus9071 Well you would think his return having occurred already would be up there as one of them to record as it literally one of the most important events tied to him. He could of found a paragraph or two. Remember Satan is the great deceiver. This doesn't look like the promise of heaven to me, nor have the dead been risen.
Just read what JESUS really said, and the length they went to cover up the evidence. Then you will see that the Bible finally makes sense. Praise the WORD for we are nearing the great white throne judgement. Amen namen.
This generation could also be referring to reincarnation. Although many would say that generation would not die before what he said happened. I still say Revelations speaks of a beast that is, is not and yet is. To me that clearly means people who are, are not and yet still are. Or simply put reincarnated. As for many of the other teachings of Revelations many of them are clearly symbolic. Although finding definitive meaning may take some effort. And the other sort of dual fulfillment I suppose you might say is even though the spiritual struggle of saints verses a system of confusion is ongoing even today. Although I'm sure some have achieved salvation, others may have chosen to reincarnate even numerous times perhaps to save lost souls even if they had the choice of staying in Heaven set before them. I'm sure God can and will save everyone someday, some way. Even if it's a hard, ongoing and long battle. Many last will be first and many first will be last. I believe that means many who are last chose to be last because they chose to reincarnate on Earth many times yet many first had chosen to do less because thier reward of eternal life satisfied them. Anyways. I suppose my belief is that many of the actual events described in the book of Revelations and even the gospels are more symbolic than literal although there is past, present and future fulfillments yet to become. It's a little difficult to distinguish what exactly they will be.
@@larryhoyt143 great question! I don’t know that I even have a clear goal. I just know that since I started looking at things this way and have seen some of these things in the Bible it helped me. It really strengthen my faith and renewed my passion for God‘s word. So I guess I just hope That by sharing my simple thoughts maybe it can help someone else. Also maybe I can learn something new and grow as I read some of the thoughtful comments I receive. It’s nice to be able to talk about the Bible in this format because people don’t have to listen they can just Click on something else.😂❤️🙏. As seen in the video when I try to talk to people about this in my real life most of the time they either aren’t interested or get angry.
@@kristinbingamon568I can relate, Sister. I can relate. That's why I come to your channel, to learn, grow in the knowledge and grace of the Lord, and to be in good company with like-minded believers😊.
@@kristinbingamon568 You are a very interesting person. Another question: do you believe a person's view on eschatology can affect their salvation? Have you done a video on salvation?
@@larryhoyt143 I believe it would be possible for one’s view on eschatology to affect their salvation in the sense that there are millions of people who reject Christ because they believe he was a false prophet. They see the clear time statements that came from the mouth of Jesus himself and they believe that they were not fulfilled in the time frame in which Jesus said they would be. There are many many TH-cam channels dedicated to atheist, and if you watch their videos, this is one of the primary reasons they reject faith in Christ. That being said, for many people, they may not have an explanation for the timing statements, but they still maintain their faith in Christ so for those people, I do not see it as being a salvation issue at all. But! That doesn’t hold true the other way. That’s why my channel has its name, because within orthodox Christianity many would say that I do not have salvation because I am rejecting a future return of Christ and a physical bodily resurrection. At least that is how I see it. What do you think?❤️🙏
@@kristinbingamon568 I think salvation depends on a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. I don't see a person's view on eschatology affecting their salvation, but if you're wrong, then people could end up following the anti-christ if it's all future, and not allegorical.
@ Gary actually lays it out in a very logical way in the book… showing very clearly how each prediction was fulfilled, but as they didn’t read the book, they never got to see the logic in it.❤️🙏
Genesis 2 4 *_These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created,_* in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens *when they were created* = past tense. *_The rest of the Bible explains everything in detail._*
These are the things that confuse me about people that have some form of religion, but what’s the point?. this just like preachers saying things that they don’t even believe. Why be a preacher? The intellectual calisthenics, you would have to perform to even entertain the possibility of everything in the Bible already happening. If that’s the case, it would be called THE END. No but seriously there must be a huge gap in your knowledge of scripture like the white throne judgment, like Satan being cast into the lake of fire.. but I would guess you probably don’t even believe any of those things so that takes me back to my original point. Which is, what is the point?
Biblically, the end times, the last days, were in the first century. Jesus said the great tribulation and his return would be in their generation. It was the end of the old covenant. When the temple was destroyed in 70AD, it was the end of animal sacrifices. Do our churches today teach this? No, and that's a big problem. Because it makes Jesus a liar, which he is not! The point is we've been deceived about the return of Jesus. The NT is not directly about us, people living two thousand years later. The events spoken of in it happened quickly, in their generation, nearly two thousand years ago. We live after Bible prophecy, under the new covenant. Two earth eschatology teaches that the new heaven and new earth spoken of in Revelation 21-22, Ezekiel 40-48, and Isaiah 65,66, exists now, separate from this earth. The question we should ask ourselves is, what did Jesus say about his return?
@@skadoosh20 The question we should ask ourselves is, what did Jesus say about his return? end quote The problem is in understanding what Jesus said about HIs return, and what Jesus said about Him coming on the clouds of heaven. The latter, 'coming on the clouds of heaven' is about judgment against Jerusalem in 70 AD The return of Christ is spelled out clearly in John 14, that Christ would return as the Holy Spirit. two completely different events. Christ returning HIs second time as the HS is the literal return of Christ, and Christ coming in the clouds is not a literal return, it is a symbol used for a judgment coming but not an actual return of Christ personally. This is why FP are confused about the second coming of Christ being in 70 AD.
@ophiuchus9071 I doubt we are going to see eye to eye, but I'll engage. For me, coming in the clouds was literal. I've found five verses that reference it: Matt 24:30, 26:64, Mark 13:26, 14:62, Rev 1:7. When Jesus returned, he literally came in the clouds of heaven like he said. Regarding the holy spirit, Jesus said in John 16:7, that it was necessary for him to go before the Comforter could come. So the Comforter/holy spirit arrived after his ascension.
@@skadoosh20 30 “Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth[c] will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. This is about a judgment coming, and the judgment that came would reveal that Christ was seated in heaven. Every time 'coming in the clouds of heaven' is mentioned it is speaking about a judgment coming. I recommend a study of all those verses you shared and you will see that the main themes is a judgment coming. Christ is the Holy Spirit. He had to go away as in complete HIs ministry in the flesh body as a human being, so He could come back as the HS. He could not come back to them as the HS if He was still a human on earth. John 14 is about Christ returning a second time as the HS. 2 Corinthians 3:17 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom Jesus is the One true Lord. Therefore the HS is Christ the Lord
@@skadoosh20 For me, coming in the clouds was literal. end quote Did the church literally appear in the clouds with Christ? Colossians 3:4 When Christ, who is your life, appears, then you also will appear with him in glory. When Christ appeared in 70 AD, the church appeared with Him. So if Jesus literally was seen coming in the clouds, then also the church was also literally seen coming in the clouds with Him. So the question is, did the church literally appear in the clouds in 70 AD with Christ?
Rightly Dividing past present and future. The Bible is a prophetic. Rightly divide law from grace. Help me because I believe the revelation of the mystery given to Paul by Jesus. I believe in not mixing the law with grace or I will have neither. If all biblical prophecy is fulfilled then Jesus never come back?
To me scripture should say one way or the other. If I can go scripture by scripture without extra words that aren't scripture. You have to see scripture rightly divided. Is there no end of the church age? Aren't we in the dispensation of grace? How long does everything just go on and on and nothing happens?
There's also more niche among the spectrum. Dispensationalism isn't the extreme, hyper-dispensationalism and mid-acts dispensationalism are the extreme of that end. Please stop projecting behavior of individuals onto the entire group of "dispensationals" - your criticism of them is akin to what you often criticize dissenting opinions for, from my outside perspective. If you're interested in reading more on opinions contradicting your own, I recommend Larkin (his most prominent work being "Dispensational truth". Particularly, on your misunderstanding of what exactly pre-millenial dispensationalism teaches regarding the 1st and 2nd coming (it is not 2 separate events, they mirror one another) You say they are not open to learning, but nor are you (after a few bad experiences with particular individuals). It seems, to me, that you have taken those individual experiences with uninformed people around you (like that pastor who met you and your husband a few times) and projecting it onto all, as if there is no one who has a thorough understanding of the Biblical justification of pre-millenialism and dispensationalism I like listening to you, you're pretty and sweet, and your voice is very nice to listen to; but you seem to have taken personal experiences with uninformed individuals and used those interactions as justification for your disbelief in dispensations.. I hope this doesn't come off as confrontational.. that is not my intent. I'm grew up hard and have little experience speaking to people who aren't hard men. Take care, sister (in Christ). I wouldn't put so much weight on extra-Biblical sources, but you and I aren't the same people and you are free to believe as you wish. P.S. do you go to a local church?
@@tragikk03 I don’t completely disagree with you. I will have to check out that resource you suggested as I do want to learn more about dispensationalism. Even though that is what I grew up with, I don’t think I ever really understood it. I’m not offended by what you said at all. I do go to a local church. The same church where I met with the pastor and also an elder. They are kind enough to let us continue to go, even though they think we are lunatics!😂❤️🙏
@kristinbingamon568 you are right in your observation that many/most people can not answer the questions you have levied solely using the Bible.. I dont think most people actually read their Bible, let alone study it, lol I think that's a human thing, though, and not particular to dispensationalism. A small percentage typically do the hard work whereas the majority just go along to get along. That pastor is probably hoping his preaching will eventually convince you 😭😭 Take care, and God bless ❤️
Let's see if you can properly understand Jeremiah 8:8 and Wisdom 5:6,7. What lies do you think have been fulfilled? There is a recipe for any (true) friends of God and prophets that requires a full measure of righteousness before wisdom then qualifies them as a prophet. You cant even say how to reap righteousness. Preterism and dispensationalism are both lies of those not practicing truth. 1 John 1:6. There are no other sides when it comes to lies. So, how do you sow to the light to reap righteousness? Psalm 97:11. Nasb. Everyone remains a heretic: {5:6} Therefore have we erred from the way of truth, and the light of righteousness hath not shined unto us, and the sun of righteousness rose not upon us. {5:7} We wearied ourselves in the way of wickedness and destruction: yea, we have gone through deserts, where there lay no way: but as for the way of the Lord, we have not known it.
@@michaelmaniaci5937 if this is the first video of mine you are watching it might not make sense. I did a whole book club. Maybe checkout my bookclub wars and rumors playlist so you can catch up🙏
There is no way that anything happened in the first century, because Jesus doesn't mention any 7th Seal (THE DAY OF THE LORD) events in his OLIVETTE discourse in ANY of the end times gospels! The following is PART of the 7th Seal, aka THE DAY OF THE LORD! You are guilty of NOT LISTENING TO WHAT OTHER PEOPLE SAY! In any case, verse 1 below tells you what THE DAY OF THE LORD will be! WE COME BACK WITH Jesus! Verse 5! Zechariah 14:1-5 1 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee. 2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city. 3 Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle. 4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south. 5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee. Revelation 19:14, 19, 8 14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. 19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army. Revelation 19:8 WHAT THE FINE LINEN REPRESENTS! And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints. Zechariah 14:5 ...and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee. That's what Acts 1 is about, in that Jesus comes back in like manner as he left! TOUCH DOWN SEAHAWKS! Oops, wrong game! TOUCHDOWN ARMAGEDDON! Revelation 16! The Jews were raptured out in chapter 14. So no, this hasn't happened YET. BUT IT WILL in the FUTURE!
That’s all over too. There is no more National Israel and there is no more physical Jerusalem either. Jesus said who True Israel is and that the city Jerusalem was going to end.
@@philiptweet5970 That's a lie. If there wasn't, then the Muslims wouldn't be fighting over Jerusalem. You do know that Muslims live in the area, right? You people want to make this about Christians vs. Jews, but Muslims make it Muslims vs. Jews and Christians.
@@philiptweet5970 You are rather late to the party, pal, but I will say this, that the book of Revelation is about the salvation of the Jews, not their destruction. There was only 2 tribes in Israel in the 70ad era, and there MUST BE all twelve tribes in the physical land, not just the 2 that was there in 70 ad. Ezekiel 36-37 STILL MUST PLAY OUT! And that's what makes your dogma false. Your favorite word, "DESOLATE" is desolate no more. If it were, there would be NO ONE, including Jews in Israel now. God would have made sure of that! And yes, there is indeed ETHNIC Jews. But even if there weren't. RUTH was a Moabite. That means, NOT A JEW. And she was the GRANDMOTHER OF KING DAVID, a Jew! So figure that one out! She's considered a Jew by the basis of CONVERTING to Judaism. So, you don't have to be ETHNIC to be a Jew! You just have to follow Judaism.
There is no Jew or Greek in Christ. The interpretation you hold is what happens when you trust your pastor more than you trust the word of God. His kingdom does not come with observation. Pray about it, God will not lead you the wrong way. All things were fulfilled, the jots and tittles of the law passed. Think about what you’re saying, the Bible would have been nonsense from AD 70 to 1948 when there was no physical Israel. Israel is God’s people, and that’s us.
Ezekiel 39 23 And the heathen shall know that the house of Israel went into captivity for their iniquity: because they trespassed against me, therefore hid I my face from them, and gave them into the hand of their enemies: *_so fell they all by the sword._* The original House Of Israel is no more. Matthew 24 29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. These 3 verses in the Olivet Discourse are the beginnings of New Heaven and New Earth. It says *_immediately after the Tribulation of those those days._* In other words, the 7th seal has opened, the 7th trumpet has blown, and the 7th vial has been poured out.
Nothing will get you excommunicated faster than proclaiming that Jesus was telling the truth.
Props to you for challenging the consensus view. They attack the person when they have no argument!!
Star forts an Star cities, meltology, world's fairs and Expos of the 1800s, tartaria, mud flood, 10 years of studying these topics I mentioned and absolutely no doubt our King did exactly what he said he was going to do.. we're in the short season.
The necessity for a second fulfillment suggests the lack of satisfaction the first time.
The first time of the second coming...🤔😎
"For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be" (Matthew 24:21, KJV). This was a tribulation that was focused on the Jewish people during the 3.5 years prior to August AD 70. Their world was the then known Roman World and not our global inter-continental earth. Through another source I learned Dr. N.T. Wright alleges this first century tribulation will be a type of a wider, more world encompassing tribulation that is yet future.
I do not mean to disparage Dr. Wright for this proposition, because his contributions generally are of great value to the Christian community. I believe Jesus articulated this statement in regard to this "first century" great tribulation . . . where the Lord precisely stated, "it will be unique and will not occur ever again." It is interesting how when Bible students genuinely seek to understand eschatology, including various positions Christians have advocated for, they are left confused. Notwithstanding, with fresh eyes, and an open mind the Lord opens our eyes to pivotal verses whereby we are helped to eliminate particular "end of the age" approaches, such as dispensational, pre-millennialism, historicism, or partial preterism.
@@deanfloyd8931 sometimes we aren’t satisfied because the result doesn’t match our expectations. Just like the Jews expecting an earthly king… they were disappointed with what Jesus was offering even though it was better.❤️🙏
How clever.
Not.
@lorenzor124 Evidently, you reject the legal aspects of contractual obligations. Using your standard
God would be a covenant breaker.
I can't accept that possibility.
I always thought it interesting that the ones who supposedly knew the scriptures the best were the ones who persecuted Jesus the most when he was physically in front of them.
You gave your friends something to think about. When our SS teacher started teaching this we all said “at least he’s making us dust off our Bibles”!
Hopefully, some of them will dust off their bibles and recognize what you told them that night.
This helps me to know what to expect from others.
God will get this through to someone.
If a mind is closed, learning will never occur. Kind of like saying “science is settled”, if you catch my drift. 😇
Exactly. How great is that darkness
G and W search engines have censored my independent research. Dispensationalists told me my work (independent research-- empirical evidence) was "too abstract". 😊
$cience is a Tool, it don't give a dam about a Fool
Gill Bates is a very false prophet! Jabomania is a primitive cult. So too the love for war. We need to stop sacrificing humans! We are supposed to be living in the 21st century! A.D., not B.C.!
I change my views all the time, It is all about growing and learning in our Lord and Savior regardless. I constantly keep learning and being corrected by those in greater wisdom! I LOVE IT! I pray it never STOPS!
I get your frustration at 23:00. When someone asks me "I just want to know who the Beast of Revelation is". Then I say "Eliazar ben Ananus and/or the Jewish leadership of Jews." They look at you like you just said blue feels like what nine smells like. Lol
If you want to know who the beast of revelation is let me help turn your flower pot upside-down 🙃
Revelation 13 is the beast description right like a leopard lion & bear? In hosea 13 the beast is the one speaking even describing himself as the leopard lion & bear. It will shock you when you find out the beast is also the one talking to Mosheh (moses) at the burning bush!
Before anyone attacks me for this comment go study it for yourself & take it to God for truth because that's what I did & the truth will truly set you free.
It’s hard for some to question a view that they have believed for so long. However the biblical evidence is on your side.
I would do what I do, direct them to your channel you have been very clear and easy to understand!
@@markhicks2800 awww thanks☺️. But it doesn’t work with my friends… I think it’s hard for those close to us to listen because they have seen our weaknesses up close🤪
@@kristinbingamon568 Ad hominem arguments are never acceptable, although people continue to use this technique for persuasive purposes. I think it reflects someone's lack of intelligence. To redirect a person who contends in this manner, one might suggest it is morally wrong to attack an opponent's character. This person should rather focus on one or several contentions an individual may embrace.
@ in fairness to my friends, they did bring up one topical issue, (dual fulfillment) but it was just a very weak argument in my opinion 🤪❤️🙏
They conveniently and deliberately misrepresent the other Kristen. "Obviously Revelation was written in the 90s"......... It's more obvious that it was written in the 60s..... the temple was still standing..... Revelation 11.
Here's to you, Mrs Robinson
Jesus loves you more than you will know
You've regained your edgy attitude! Your exegesis is not only interesting: It's correct. You are showing respect for truth. Why, then, are your friends not interested? I think they are using belief as a wall against live religion -- loving, learning, discovering the Miracle of Existence, exploring the realm of feeling, overcoming inner conflicts, nurturing the heart. Christ returns every day, but most pay no attention. The path to heaven requires work, commitment, distance from society. It's not for everyone!
Hi Kristin, There is another "heretic chick" on the other side of the world down under in Australia. Her TH-cam channel is called Crystal Clear. She has very in depth and well developed commentary mirroring many of your views.
Another great video, Keep up the good work,
ThkQ HC. Your Awesome and truthfully straight up chick, thkq I trust you for your work and research
@@ronmalley don’t trust me! I mess things up all the time so double check everything for yourself ❤️🙏
@kristinbingamon568 don't we all, but I need to know truth revealed
Don’t let anyone get you down sister. Once I seen it a couple years ago I had to become a heretic too lol😂 if you’re going to believe Christ and his apostles. You’re going to have to be a heretic too or just don’t believe his words it’s up to them. God bless you sister.
Christ was not a Christian. He was not a Catholic. He did not live in a palace. He did not worship the failed apartheid experiment Truman got the U.N. to implant in 55% of Palestine on 29 Nov 1947. He did not thump the Bible while "consulting" with prosthetics. He didn't worry about 501C3 exemptions. I don't think he would be very popular, if he paid a visit to a U.S. church.
You touched the third rail of Dispensationalism which is Premill eschatology.
Thank you, this has been helpful.
There's a video by Jason Jack that just came out entitled Why do I believe little season eschatology is Correct? Worth checking out.
Full preterism is a total walk of faith, it's not only in opposition to those around, it's also in opposition to the world around us.
@@deanfloyd8931 but not in opposition to the words of Jesus so at least we have that!😂❤️🙏
Yup, the just shall walk by Faith.
May you help me by showing what verse Full Preterist use that is not in its hermeneutical context ? Where they say it is fulfilled but they do not have a referent verse in the discussion to stand on ?
@DWW1972 "These are the days of vengeance that ALL THAT IS WRITTEN MAY BE FULFILLED".
The bible was fully penned during the old covenant, and must be fulfilled during that covenantial period. Obligatory requirements are not applicable once a new covenant is fully in place.
@@kristinbingamon568I think full preterism is less fearful than futurism. There’s no future Antichrist no mark of the beast or great tribulation. People are watching the news and seeing things that look like Bible prophecies and waiting to be raptured away instead of resting in the finished work of Jesus Christ.
I find with myself that when questioned on my belief as how i was raised I'm not angry, I'm more embarrassed at the lack of knowledge that i have to explain and how we should be able to explain our position but listen to the folks who are sharing their understanding of the Bible and go back and varify their translation. This is why I'm here as there is more studying i have to do and God does not make things confusing, we just have to do our own due diligence and pray for discernment daily and have that passion for truth so we are accountable when questioned. Uugh i hope this made sense...
@@petethesquatchie that’s great! I know I have been in situations where my blood boiled when I couldn’t adequately explain my convictions, but I’m trying to do better and be open to learning.❤️🙏
@@JacobSchlosser-c6qComing to fulfilled eschatology has led to me having many more opportunities to share the gospel with atheist/agnostics. It makes Jesus a true prophet not a false prophet!!
Good points on how we should be considerate to each other. If Christ had to go away in order for Gods spirit to be in us again that's a big deal. That means we were dead and are now alive in Christ. All that attitude has to be put on by faith. And that's the challenge in teaching this new creation of who we are in Christ. Keep up the good work of building faith in us 👍👍
When someone tells you that you are wrong but has nothing to prove you might be wrong, that is the height of ignorance. Ignorance can be very hard to deal with, especially when they will not hear you out.
Nuh uh
@@mrcubsfan97 lol
@@greg7129 it would be interesting to be able to ask them how they feel the discussion went? In their minds maybe they felt like they were making really great points. I don’t know.
@@kristinbingamon568 Very true and I believe you handled the situation very well. I might not have done so well, lol
I haven't listened to all of this video yet.... I'm still working on the one before. I'm sure I will love it because I am thoroughly enjoying ALL of your content! ❤ I was hoping to make a suggestion of some content that I'd like to hear in the future and that is about the basic principles of hermeneutics and how to help people understand their bible ❤❤
@@Mom-preneur great idea! I will write that down so I don’t forget!❤️🙏
MZTV will set this record straight and correct the error here.
Defensive Offensive is the reaction you confronted, it is "a compensatory zeal from personal uncertainty", the anger exposes their lack of certainty.
I am a Praeterist because John's gospel was written to witness Jesus as the Messiah, and the only one who was designated to be witness was John, so John witnessed all prophecy of Daniel as fulfilled as that was the purpose of the Messiah.
You gave your friends something to think about. When our SS teacher started teaching this we all said “at least he’s making us dust off our Bibles”!
Hopefully, some of them will dust off their bibles and recognize what you told them that night.
@@jeanbundy2686 good point! Hopefully they will get into the word ❤️🙏
If all prophecy has been fulfilled then we missed the two witnesses dying in the streets of Jerusalem while the world makes marry and gives gifts to one another must happen around a upcoming Christmas from the sounds of it and also at a last trump whom did survive a would be mortal wound to the head while the world can be controlled by a mark. Hmmmmmm all prophecy fulfilled my little toe. Behold the bridegroom cometh be ready be watching be waiting it will be good for that servant who's Master finds them watching when he comes like a thief in the night at the last trump in the twinkling of an eye see you faithful at the place He prepared for you.
You mean you missed it, I did not miss thing.
I can understand someone thinking and seeing Don Preston and William Bell as arrogant but not Gary Demar. My2Cents
The best way to keep from finding the truth is to believe that you have already found it. Please don't stop listening to other opinions. You may find that it's not as simple as Gary makes it sound. I appreciate your desire to know God, most people are too busy to even care about Him.
@@theangel219 yes I definitely want to keep learning and I know I don’t have it all figured out👍❤️🙏
The truth is Christ(Joh.14:6) As long as we keep focused on Him, are we not of the elect? At this point, Joh.16:13 can begin to be fulfilled in the believers life.
Thanks ive been leaning more towards this view because of some of the scriptures that you quoted but i am still unsure of what part of the timeline we are in. Or if things can repeat.
sorry your book club meeting didn’t go as you might have expected 🙁 maybe after the meeting their curiosity sparked and they might consider reading the book? or did they return the book to you? would any of your friends consider selling it if they won’t read it? l try to get it but they don’t deliver to Canada 🙁 ( just an idea) again thank you for sharing your experience with us!
I watched your complete presentation and can relate whole heartedly. Jesus went through the same thing with his disciples. Misunderstanding goes with the territory. All we can do is plant seeds, pray, and leave the rest up to God.
The more layers of the truth I’ve peeled back the more potent the truth has become. My latest challenge was the subject of the supposed lost tribes of Israel. The question is were they really lost? Modern Judeo Christian eschatology believes the descendants of the twelve original tribes of Israel no longer exist. I’ve been looking into this for the last two months and have come to realize this assumption isn’t true. Along with reading several articles and books dating back to the 1800’s on the subject I’ve viewed several video presentations on a couple youtube channels covering the subject. I’ve come to the conclusion the descendants of the original twelve tribes do indeed exist to this day. If you feel up to the challenge check out some E Raymond Capt video presentations on youtube. Capt was a archaeologist, writer and film maker. He passed away but made some great presentations.
Thank you for doing what you do!
25:10 i’d be willing to bet that what scares her is that this is the material that we are studying in this group, but I don’t know I wasn’t there. If that was the impression you got in person maybe it is.
The echo chamber I mentioned earlier makes them feel safe and that’s why anything else isn’t acceptable because it’s scary.
My comments don’t seem to be posting. Except this one. Must have been some words I used. lol! Oh well
When you said you winked at your friends it made me think of Acts 17: 30-31 in the kjv
They want an echo chamber anything different not acceptable.
@@bryanmercille3049 sometimes I’m the same way though, so I have to have sympathy for them and realize that I could be doing the same thing!❤️🙏
Great video! So sorry you had to go thru that...been there, done that as well. As for dual fulfillment, I see prophecy as having a physical fulfillment and spiritual fulfillment. God gives us the natural (physical) to explain the heavenly (spiritual)...See 1 Cor. 15:46. The temple for example. A physical one was built several times, but in the New covenant, we are the temple where God dwells (not built with human hands).
It's a lot to unpack as is biblical cosmology and the fact that this realm is flat, not spinning and protected by a dome firmament as mentioned in the Bible. We know preterism is the truth because the architecture from the past does not lie and most important - our King and Messiah did not lie when he told his apostles that he would return soon.
Would you please post the name of the book you are referring to and tag me?
Wars and Rumors of Wars by Gary DeMar
They didn't have the mark of the beast back when! they also didn't go around buying and selling things digitally he's coming back again and everyone will see it and everyone will bow down
Does full Preterism explain why there is so much evil and suffering that is escalating?
@@rogerkreil3314 that is a good question. I think it is important to remember that in the “new heavens and new earth“ talked about in Isaiah 65 and 66 there is still death. That was shocking to me when I read it. What does that mean? It all comes back to our expectations of a physical kingdom instead of the spiritual kingdom that Jesus was offering.
Inside the kingdom, the new covenant, through the blood of Christ we have perfect standing before God in spite of ourselves. Because we are clothed in his righteousness. As far as evil in the world today, as long as there are men on the Earth, there will be evil because it is The nature of man. You say it is getting worse, but I wonder if you have really considered how you could know that? And could anything ever be worse than crucifying the Lord of glory? That really and truly was the worst thing that mankind would ever and could ever do.
Part of the reason things seem worse now is because we are constantly bombarded with negative media from all sides, and we forget to focus on the positive. It is up to us to be the love of God to others. We can truly make the world better by loving God and loving others. ❤️🙏. I do have other videos dedicated to that topic though. One of them I think is called “death is done!“ Let me know what you think after watching that one if you have time.
There is death and sin in the new heavens and new earth. Evil is not escalating. From our view point it may seem that way, but we only see a tiny blip in the timeline of history. Just read Josephus about how evil the Jews were in the first century,
I'm not sure why you think its escalating. At the time of the flood, every desire of the human heart was only evil all the time. How can it get worse than that? Human beings are evil. Jesus calls us evil. Rev 22:14-15 says that after everything else is done, the judgement, the resurrection, the defeat of Satan etc, there are still unsaved people outside the city. That is the state wee are now in. A person comes to faith in Christ and they become a eternal citizen of the true Israel and they enter the city. Or they remain dead in sin outside the city.
@@TheWorldWeLiveIn_Max Excellent comment.
@@ChristCenteredEschatology thanks bro!
Goals of simply fellowship with Christian Ladies. Getting serious might have been overwhelming. Like asking you to read the Koran ~ British version. Challenging beliefs can be intimidating. Planted Seeds, but loosing your fellowship. So many have never had this teaching in their Spiritual Education. Triggering people with your Heresy. Cognitive Dissonance is painful. Sorry for your loss of friends.
@@marcellasimerly8233 oh they are still my friends! I love them dearly. I can agree to disagree no problem.❤️🙏
if one has a secret place within them, add know how to go through the door on the other side, oh what stories you can tell. Real or not? Yes , believe Jesus is the door.
Don’t worry, it goes over their heads for the first couple of times. 😂
Double fulfilment - maybe another messiah will be born in Bethlehem too? 🙈 maybe the final messiah.
@@ulsterscot double fulfillment is like the, “wild card“ that Trump‘s every argument😂❤️🙏
Good point
🔘 19:43 - Of course "parts of Revelation have been fulfilled." What about the child born of a woman crying in labor, in Rev. 12 ? . . . Isn't that CERTAINLY Christ ?
🔘 41:25 - Yes, the Anti-Christ actually IS in Revelation, for another name for the Anti-Christ is the "False Prophet" (1 Jn. 4:1-3), and the "False Prophet" is in Revelation (Rev. 19:20 & 20: 10), as 1 of 3 beasts thrown into the Lake of Fire, which, from comparison to the 3 similar beasts in Rev. 13, we can deduce that the False Prophet is actually the "Beast from the Earth" (13: 11-18).
'Death shall be no more, and never again shall there be sorrow or crying or pain.'
Full preterism? It's actually terrifying.
I believe we have not long moved through the .M. years
@@TheTinFoilHatOff I understand that it sounds ridiculous. I have a video called,” death is done.” Check it out if you have time and let me know what u think❤️🙏
@kristinbingamon568 ... Sorrow or crying or pain?
@@TheTinFoilHatOff yep that’s all in the video I mentioned ❤️🙏
@@TheTinFoilHatOff Death shall be no more, and never again shall there be sorrow or crying or pain.'
Full preterism? It's actually terrifying.
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When it happened, it wasn't terrifying, because the persecutions that were being carried out on them and causing them death, sorrows, tears, and pain, ended when their main enemy and persecutors(OC Jews) were wiped out by Rome.
It's 'the death' shall be no more or 'Death' shall be no more. It's not physical death or everyday sorrows, pains and tears that we all feel. This new reality was that of the New Heavens and New Earth in Rev 21 and 22 where there are still those (the cowardly, unbelieving, murderers,adulterers, sorcerers, etc.) who are outside the gates of the New Jerusalem. If the New Heavens and New Earth is a completely perfect state of existence, then how do those people who are outside the gates still exist? It's all about Covenant, and in the New Covenant, we have full fellowship with God. We can endure all things because we have His unfailing love forevermore.
If you believe Jesus already returned.. and if you believe all prophecies have been fulfilled. Why are you still thirsty.. for if I gave you something to drink you would never be thirsty again.
John 6:35
And Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life. He who comes to Me shall never hunger, and he who believes in Me shall never thirst.
No one who receives from Christ is still thirsty.
As Christians I believe we should be all about having a personal relationship with Christ and concentrate on giving glory to God rather than telling others that I am right and you are wrong. This type of division is exactly what satan wants. Between this and people always asking and praying for what they want rather than glorifying God is exactly what’s wrong with the teachings and beliefs of “Christians” these days.
The problem is most Christians don’t even think Jesus was right
Where in scripture does it speak of a duel fulfillment? SDA's are good with that thinking. ugh. Yeah, I get your frustration, my fiancé thinks I'm nuts. She also doesn't want to explore the issue.
I do think some things in the OT were “ types and shadows “ but the problem for futurists is that Paul says in 1 Corinthians 10 that all the types and shadows were pointing to them ( Paul and his contemporaries) 2000 years ago.
I’m sorry she isn’t interested in examining the issue. 😢. But maybe if you give her some time to let it settle. My husband brings things up sometimes that initially I just reject and don’t want anything to do with, but after awhile sometimes it starts sounding less crazy😂. Other times I don’t disagree, it’s just not a topic that interests me.
I have a feeling your friends have found your channel by now.
@@darrendavis4731 maybe! But if so I think they wouldn’t be talking about “ crazy Kristin so much!😂. I think they are oblivious at this point but they might stumble across it someday😂❤️🙏. But it’s okay… we can disagree and still be friends👍
@@kristinbingamon568 unfortunately most will cut you off as a friend once they know you're a full preterist. Sad, but true.
There is only 1 that opens the book and looks into it with proper insight. Rev 5. Only 1 knows the water of the whole truth that is worthy of a horse to drink.
For me, Isaiah 7:14 is the classic dual-fulfillment verse.
@@danlds17 yes that is a perfect example. I would have pointed out to my friends that in 1 Corinthians 10 Paul said all the types and shadows were finding their fulfillment in “us” ( them 2000 years ago) but I thought that would just make some of them more upset.❤️🙏
It's really sad how closed minded, judgemental and insanely strange how quickly they are capable of not just casting one down as if they're lower than they're high and mighty all knowing ass runs over them by gossiping and back biting others but also how quickly the cast one out and can just walk away from them as if they dont even have a heart at all! Which is the exact opposite of what the teachings of Yahusua! Really doesn't make any sense how they can't see how this church of today and all their brainwashed congregations are actually being lead by the antichrist spirit that canonized {catholic approved) bible speaks about when it refers to those who claim to be God's peiple but don't have any love in them which is why they all have to continually lift each other up to place each one on their pedestals that they gaze down upon all of us that are so below them! We must pray for them and forgive them.. something they cant even do lol!
This discussion is almost hilarious. It's a contest of the wills and almost a contest of who is holier because of what they think they know about any given subject, eschatology or otherwise. "Vain conversation" is what Paul talks about, and it's exactly what this portends to be. Your arguments are almost "I like yogurt but my friend likes ice cream, so she's on the downward slope (I'm taking better care of my body.") All your talk here, is unnecessary and at the very least, creates division. Are we here to point out each other's differences, or unity all in a labor of love? You tell me.
There is nothing vain about understanding the correct gospel of Christ.
Christianity is in the dark, they believe that God burns and tortures sinners in an afterlife hellfire. It is normal in Christianity to see God as being evil. How twisted is that? And you think that correcting those Christians who have been duped into this form of idol worship(false image of God) is causing division. That is what the whole point is. To bring division.
Luke 12
51 Do you suppose that I came to give peace on earth? I tell you, not at all, but rather division. 52 For from now on five in one house will be divided: three against two, and two against three. 53 Father will be divided against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother-in-law against her daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law.”
For the most part yogurt is oftentimes a healthier alternative to ice cream. I would tend to side with the yogurt eater for longer durations, but the ice cream lover sounds like a good time.
Here is the foundation for the true prophetic timeline:
We can know "when" we are on God's prophetic calendar. It is written in the book of 2nd Esdras. Chapter 11 contains a prophecy that describes a line of American presidents, four of whom are still alive, and two of them are being kept until "the end." All of them are old men. "The end" is fast approaching.
Ezra wrote Second Esdras, chapters 11, 12, and 13 many centuries ago, long before the United States existed, yet he accurately describes a line of 15 US presidents starting with Hoover. This 100-year-long prophecy began fulfilling on March 4, 1929. It is now 95% complete. Its perfect fulfillment to this point has established its credibility. Ezra was not guessing.
I have condensed the prophecy into a series of short lessons - my gift to you. Please allow me to guide you through them, step by step, and into understanding. Blessings to you and your loved ones.
When someone says I am a preterist, I wonder to myself what drives them to attach themselves to a label unless doing so gives themself some sort of pride based significance. Almost all religious teachers have an absolute certainty that the lies they believe and teach represent the truth but how can 10,000 contradictions all represent the truth. My conclusion is that religious teachers of every sect tend to be the least reliable purveyors of truth and almost all would go to war against Messiah if he ever did show up. Finally, as a former Christian pastor, I wouldn't trust anything any "Christian" had to teach because they are the blindest of the blind. The truth is available but you have to come all the way out of religion especially Christianity in order to find it.
Come out of her my people!!!
Hi sister, be firm in your stance and stay the course with the Lord. I been researching Revelation 20:1 and I think the Lord did come and It seems that the 144,000 were taken at the time of the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple. I say that because if you go to Revelation 6:10-11 I think there are those asking the Lord when shall He have vengeance for their blood and He says for them to rest until their brethren, servants are killed as in the same as them, I think that is us, and everything will happen again, the Lord is going to come again. In Josephus there was famine, and destruction and fire and war even the Hebrews were crucified and those were the elect. Just a thought of investigating, because like you I cannot believe we are waiting over two thousand years for our Lord to return, His words are true and they life. The Lord bless you and protect and guide my brothers and sisters in the Holy name of Jesus Christ and in the Holy name of the Father Son Holy Spirit amen. ✝️🙏
You are certainly more mature and objective than me 😂. How rude they show up for a meeting without even reading the book. I think you planted some seeds though. I bet they secretly peek at the book again and maybe even read Matthew 24 a little more closely.
@@AnneTherese. that would be great if they did!❤️🙏
I’ve gotten to where I can’t do any Bible studies because it’s always spoon fed dispensationalism. Many of them are also hard core John MacArthur followers, who is a works Salvationist and Freemason. The Lord has always taught me more on my own by His Holy Spirit anyway. I am in the little season camp, but am open to full preterism as I have questions on both stances. One thing is clear though there is overwhelming evidence Jesus has already returned. It’s not a salvation issue, but I think it’s important to have humility and the honesty to admit that maybe you don’t know everything. These ladies are dealing with some serious cognitive dissonance and they simply don’t want to deal with what may actually be the truth. We have all been deceived at some point.
@@MeganVincent-tl4tg I like how you have your opinions but you are still open. We should all be more like that!❤️🙏
Proverbs 13:12: Hope deferred makes the heart sick( yeah people as in 2000 years), but a desire Fullfilled is a tree of life(like Revelation 20), study your Bible people!! You won’t be so mad ..
According to the SDA's the 'stars' fell some time in the mid 1800's in the New England area...maybe it was PA
@@kevinjordan4139 what is SDA?
@@kristinbingamon568 HINT: They go to church on Saturday.
I am currently on the books as an SDA but God has led me to preterism. Cognitive dissonance is REAL!! It took me years to consider the seed my daughter planted about my church-once I let go of my biases, I came to realize that she was right!! Those are seeds that you planted in these friends and, in time and God working in their hearts, they may come to realize what you started in them. I’m very impressed by your willingness to be a Daniel and walk into the lion’s den. That couldn’t have been easy. I live in a community where almost everyone is SDA and they all know each other so it’s tough to have a different opinion. I’ve been very quiet about my beliefs but I am slowly planting little seeds. I love your videos! Keep them coming 😉
@@kristinbingamon568Seventh-Day Adventist
@@kristinbingamon568 Seventh Day Adventist
The time of Jacob's trouble is not body of Christ doctrine. Yes Bible prophecy is happening right before our eyes but don't believe it?
Little season makes sense to me but not full preterist because after Revelation 20 we all go before God, no?
@@fossfam I believe that happened in 70AD and is a picture of the beginning of reconciliation to god through Christ. As people come to him they continue to stream through the gates of the kingdom even now❤️🙏. That’s how I see it but I understand where u are coming from🥰
@ So you believe after the Gog & Magog war, when God reigns down fire, that humanity continues indefinitely? This is a serious question as I’m just trying to understand, because in my opinion I read Rev 21 as though human life is over and everyone is judged at that time and told if they are going to heaven or hell.
Also, after the war Satan is destroyed so why would we still be living in a time of deception, tempted to sin, etc.
In my opinion, the idea that we are in the little season seems to make more sense. You don’t think so?
@ I used to see it more the way you are describing, but I couldn’t get past the fact that the millennium end with “the war “ where which is the same war in revelation 19,16 etc. against Babylon ( ie jerusalem/ the old covenant.). That ended in 70 AD. There is a lot to unpack. I want to do a video but I have to spend time doing my research to present a coherent case.😅. One thing is Jesus said in Luke that “ these are the days of wrath to fulfill ALL that is written.” The old testament predicted the end of sin and death so according to Jesus that must be ended in the first century.❤️🙏
@@fossfam So you believe after the Gog & Magog war, when God reigns down fire, that humanity continues indefinitely? This is a serious question as I’m just trying to understand, because in my opinion I read Rev 21 as though human life is over and everyone is judged at that time and told if they are going to heaven or hell.
Also, after the war Satan is destroyed so why would we still be living in a time of deception, tempted to sin, etc.
In my opinion, the idea that we are in the little season seems to make more sense. You don’t think so?
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Revelation 20:9
They marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God’s people, the city he loves. But fire came down from heaven and devoured them.
this is a prophecy and is consistent with how prophecy is spoken figuratively in scripture.
what is the 'fire' that comes down from heaven and subdues God's enemies?
Jeremiah 23:29
“Is not my word like fire,” declares the Lord, “and like a hammer that breaks a rock in pieces?
The word of God which is the gospel of Christ is how Christ subdues His enemies.
Jeremiah 5:14
Therefore this is what the Lord God Almighty says: “Because the people have spoken these words, I will make my words in your mouth a fire and these people the wood it consumes.
The pagan nations who are symbolized as being(Gog and Magog) were subdued by the gospel of Christ. And by the second century Christianity was the main religion in the known world.
It was not their flesh bodies that were devoured and destroyed, it was their heathenism that was destroyed by the fire from heaven (Gospel of Christ)
The gospel of Christ is the weapon of the saints against their enemies.
Rev 11
5 If anyone tries to harm them, fire comes from their mouths(gospel of Christ) and devours their enemies. This is how anyone who wants to harm them must die.
This is the false teaching of preterism, Jesus said,” in the last days you could be deceived” Don’t fall for this
The deception spoken of is related to what really happened on the 3rd Day (resurrection). It involves the physicality of Jesus and the eventual abomination of desolation.
17 But you, beloved, remember the words which were spoken before by the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ: 18 how they told you that there would be mockers in the last time who would walk according to their own ungodly lusts. 19 These are sensual persons, who cause divisions, not having the Spirit.
Jude is writing to his church in that 1st century and telling them that the certain evil men who had crept in their church were those scoffers and deceivers that Jesus warned them would come in the last days.
If that prophecy was fulfilled 2000 years ago then the last days were 2000 years ago, there is no getting around this.
and
not only did Jesus and the apostles warn them about these certain evil men who had crept in their 1st century church, but so did Enoch prophecy about these same men, and said that these men would appear at the time when Jesus would come on the clouds of heaven with His holy ones.
14 Now Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men also, saying, “Behold, the Lord comes with ten thousands of His saints, 15 to execute judgment on all, to convict all who are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have committed in an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.”
Obviously the judgment was coming on them and not a future generation.
Believe it or not some people are even "Post Malone-ist"..not me though, I love Black Sabbath.
@@denofearthundertheeverlast5138 I wish I had the musical knowledge to understand your comment but I grew up listening to classical music so I have no clue of what you are talking about🤔😂. Have you ever listened to Scheherazade by Rimsky -korsakov?🥰. It’s unbelievable.
@@kristinbingamon568 I was making a joke about a word play on "Post Millennialist" so I got "Post Malone-ist. I played classical guitar for many yrs and even heavy metal/ grunge...Post Malone is a white guy rapper/ singer thats been out for a while that the young kiddo's like...totally not my style of music.
@@denofearthundertheeverlast5138 ha! Okay well I figured it was a musical joke that I wasn’t getting… never heard of post Malone. 🎸 ❤️🙏
If Jesus came already, don't you think we would have such an event thoroughly documented? There would of been no need for our current Bible. It's God word and would of been changed accordingly. You believe it was kept true for thousands of years and then God said he was done making sure we had his truth.
why does anything have to be written and documented when the 1955 year old temple ruins in Jerusalem speak for themselves?
Jesus left the temple and was walking away when his disciples came up to him to call his attention to its buildings. 2 “Do you see all these things?” he asked. “Truly I tell you, not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down.”
34 Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.
History proves Jesus was correct.
@ophiuchus9071 Because this would be documented just as the Old Testament and New Testament was documented. This was done because God lead the people to correctly document his word. You must believe that he decided to throw everything out the window 🪟
@@kbro7484
John 21:25
And there are also many other things that Jesus did, which if they were written one by one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that would be written. Amen.
@@kbro7484 Everything we need to read is already written down for us. God's word is complete. The Eternal Word of God is Jesus Christ, what more do we need?
@@ophiuchus9071 Well you would think his return having occurred already would be up there as one of them to record as it literally one of the most important events tied to him. He could of found a paragraph or two. Remember Satan is the great deceiver. This doesn't look like the promise of heaven to me, nor have the dead been risen.
Just read what JESUS really said, and the length they went to cover up the evidence. Then you will see that the Bible finally makes sense. Praise the WORD for we are nearing the great white throne judgement. Amen namen.
This generation could also be referring to reincarnation. Although many would say that generation would not die before what he said happened. I still say Revelations speaks of a beast that is, is not and yet is. To me that clearly means people who are, are not and yet still are. Or simply put reincarnated.
As for many of the other teachings of Revelations many of them are clearly symbolic. Although finding definitive meaning may take some effort.
And the other sort of dual fulfillment I suppose you might say is even though the spiritual struggle of saints verses a system of confusion is ongoing even today.
Although I'm sure some have achieved salvation, others may have chosen to reincarnate even numerous times perhaps to save lost souls even if they had the choice of staying in Heaven set before them.
I'm sure God can and will save everyone someday, some way. Even if it's a hard, ongoing and long battle.
Many last will be first and many first will be last. I believe that means many who are last chose to be last because they chose to reincarnate on Earth many times yet many first had chosen to do less because thier reward of eternal life satisfied them.
Anyways. I suppose my belief is that many of the actual events described in the book of Revelations and even the gospels are more symbolic than literal although there is past, present and future fulfillments yet to become. It's a little difficult to distinguish what exactly they will be.
What is your goal with your videos?
@@larryhoyt143 great question! I don’t know that I even have a clear goal. I just know that since I started looking at things this way and have seen some of these things in the Bible it helped me. It really strengthen my faith and renewed my passion for God‘s word. So I guess I just hope That by sharing my simple thoughts maybe it can help someone else. Also maybe I can learn something new and grow as I read some of the thoughtful comments I receive. It’s nice to be able to talk about the Bible in this format because people don’t have to listen they can just Click on something else.😂❤️🙏. As seen in the video when I try to talk to people about this in my real life most of the time they either aren’t interested or get angry.
@@kristinbingamon568I can relate, Sister. I can relate. That's why I come to your channel, to learn, grow in the knowledge and grace of the Lord, and to be in good company with like-minded believers😊.
@@kristinbingamon568 You are a very interesting person. Another question: do you believe a person's view on eschatology can affect their salvation? Have you done a video on salvation?
@@larryhoyt143 I believe it would be possible for one’s view on eschatology to affect their salvation in the sense that there are millions of people who reject Christ because they believe he was a false prophet. They see the clear time statements that came from the mouth of Jesus himself and they believe that they were not fulfilled in the time frame in which Jesus said they would be. There are many many TH-cam channels dedicated to atheist, and if you watch their videos, this is one of the primary reasons they reject faith in Christ. That being said, for many people, they may not have an explanation for the timing statements, but they still maintain their faith in Christ so for those people, I do not see it as being a salvation issue at all. But! That doesn’t hold true the other way. That’s why my channel has its name, because within orthodox Christianity many would say that I do not have salvation because I am rejecting a future return of Christ and a physical bodily resurrection. At least that is how I see it. What do you think?❤️🙏
@@kristinbingamon568 I think salvation depends on a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. I don't see a person's view on eschatology affecting their salvation, but if you're wrong, then people could end up following the anti-christ if it's all future, and not allegorical.
lolz I wonder if they'd still be your friend if they knew..
I think they would, but this way I get to hear what they really think about me without them even knowing 😂❤
@@kristinbingamon568 LOL
They probably don't think preterism is logical.. so there is that. It's about being logical.
@ Gary actually lays it out in a very logical way in the book… showing very clearly how each prediction was fulfilled, but as they didn’t read the book, they never got to see the logic in it.❤️🙏
Total Nonsense 😳
His story is cyclical!
You can be raptured right now if you had the faith of Enoch...
Not saying you don't.
Your Philodendron is a believerñ
the spirit of stupidity ???
Genesis 2
4 *_These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created,_* in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens
*when they were created* = past tense. *_The rest of the Bible explains everything in detail._*
These are the things that confuse me about people that have some form of religion, but what’s the point?. this just like preachers saying things that they don’t even believe. Why be a preacher? The intellectual calisthenics, you would have to perform to even entertain the possibility of everything in the Bible already happening. If that’s the case, it would be called THE END. No but seriously there must be a huge gap in your knowledge of scripture like the white throne judgment, like Satan being cast into the lake of fire.. but I would guess you probably don’t even believe any of those things so that takes me back to my original point. Which is, what is the point?
Biblically, the end times, the last days, were in the first century. Jesus said the great tribulation and his return would be in their generation. It was the end of the old covenant. When the temple was destroyed in 70AD, it was the end of animal sacrifices. Do our churches today teach this? No, and that's a big problem. Because it makes Jesus a liar, which he is not! The point is we've been deceived about the return of Jesus. The NT is not directly about us, people living two thousand years later. The events spoken of in it happened quickly, in their generation, nearly two thousand years ago. We live after Bible prophecy, under the new covenant. Two earth eschatology teaches that the new heaven and new earth spoken of in Revelation 21-22, Ezekiel 40-48, and Isaiah 65,66, exists now, separate from this earth. The question we should ask ourselves is, what did Jesus say about his return?
@@skadoosh20 The question we should ask ourselves is, what did Jesus say about his return?
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The problem is in understanding what Jesus said about HIs return, and what Jesus said about Him coming on the clouds of heaven.
The latter, 'coming on the clouds of heaven' is about judgment against Jerusalem in 70 AD
The return of Christ is spelled out clearly in John 14, that Christ would return as the Holy Spirit.
two completely different events.
Christ returning HIs second time as the HS is the literal return of Christ, and Christ coming in the clouds is not a literal return, it is a symbol used for a judgment coming but not an actual return of Christ personally.
This is why FP are confused about the second coming of Christ being in 70 AD.
@ophiuchus9071 I doubt we are going to see eye to eye, but I'll engage. For me, coming in the clouds was literal. I've found five verses that reference it: Matt 24:30, 26:64, Mark 13:26, 14:62, Rev 1:7. When Jesus returned, he literally came in the clouds of heaven like he said. Regarding the holy spirit, Jesus said in John 16:7, that it was necessary for him to go before the Comforter could come. So the Comforter/holy spirit arrived after his ascension.
@@skadoosh20 30 “Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth[c] will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory.
This is about a judgment coming, and the judgment that came would reveal that Christ was seated in heaven.
Every time 'coming in the clouds of heaven' is mentioned it is speaking about a judgment coming. I recommend a study of all those verses you shared and you will see that the main themes is a judgment coming.
Christ is the Holy Spirit. He had to go away as in complete HIs ministry in the flesh body as a human being, so He could come back as the HS. He could not come back to them as the HS if He was still a human on earth. John 14 is about Christ returning a second time as the HS.
2 Corinthians 3:17
Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom
Jesus is the One true Lord.
Therefore the HS is Christ the Lord
@@skadoosh20 For me, coming in the clouds was literal.
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Did the church literally appear in the clouds with Christ?
Colossians 3:4
When Christ, who is your life, appears, then you also will appear with him in glory.
When Christ appeared in 70 AD, the church appeared with Him.
So if Jesus literally was seen coming in the clouds, then also the church was also literally seen coming in the clouds with Him.
So the question is, did the church literally appear in the clouds in 70 AD with Christ?
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Unfortunately there is no documentation of that theory.
@@hughbramlett7689 you could watch some of my videos for documentation ☺️❤️🙏
You're not rightly dividing the word of truth.
Rightly Dividing past present and future. The Bible is a prophetic. Rightly divide law from grace. Help me because I believe the revelation of the mystery given to Paul by Jesus. I believe in not mixing the law with grace or I will have neither. If all biblical prophecy is fulfilled then Jesus never come back?
To me scripture should say one way or the other. If I can go scripture by scripture without extra words that aren't scripture. You have to see scripture rightly divided. Is there no end of the church age? Aren't we in the dispensation of grace? How long does everything just go on and on and nothing happens?
You know some books in the new testament are describing what happened in the old testament under the law. The new testament doesn't start at Matthew.
There's also more niche among the spectrum.
Dispensationalism isn't the extreme, hyper-dispensationalism and mid-acts dispensationalism are the extreme of that end.
Please stop projecting behavior of individuals onto the entire group of "dispensationals" - your criticism of them is akin to what you often criticize dissenting opinions for, from my outside perspective.
If you're interested in reading more on opinions contradicting your own, I recommend Larkin (his most prominent work being "Dispensational truth".
Particularly, on your misunderstanding of what exactly pre-millenial dispensationalism teaches regarding the 1st and 2nd coming (it is not 2 separate events, they mirror one another)
You say they are not open to learning, but nor are you (after a few bad experiences with particular individuals).
It seems, to me, that you have taken those individual experiences with uninformed people around you (like that pastor who met you and your husband a few times) and projecting it onto all, as if there is no one who has a thorough understanding of the Biblical justification of pre-millenialism and dispensationalism
I like listening to you, you're pretty and sweet, and your voice is very nice to listen to; but you seem to have taken personal experiences with uninformed individuals and used those interactions as justification for your disbelief in dispensations..
I hope this doesn't come off as confrontational.. that is not my intent. I'm grew up hard and have little experience speaking to people who aren't hard men.
Take care, sister (in Christ). I wouldn't put so much weight on extra-Biblical sources, but you and I aren't the same people and you are free to believe as you wish.
P.S. do you go to a local church?
@@tragikk03 I don’t completely disagree with you. I will have to check out that resource you suggested as I do want to learn more about dispensationalism. Even though that is what I grew up with, I don’t think I ever really understood it. I’m not offended by what you said at all. I do go to a local church. The same church where I met with the pastor and also an elder. They are kind enough to let us continue to go, even though they think we are lunatics!😂❤️🙏
@kristinbingamon568 you are right in your observation that many/most people can not answer the questions you have levied solely using the Bible.. I dont think most people actually read their Bible, let alone study it, lol
I think that's a human thing, though, and not particular to dispensationalism.
A small percentage typically do the hard work whereas the majority just go along to get along.
That pastor is probably hoping his preaching will eventually convince you 😭😭
Take care, and God bless ❤️
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Let's see if you can properly understand Jeremiah 8:8 and Wisdom 5:6,7. What lies do you think have been fulfilled? There is a recipe for any (true) friends of God and prophets that requires a full measure of righteousness before wisdom then qualifies them as a prophet. You cant even say how to reap righteousness.
Preterism and dispensationalism are both lies of those not practicing truth. 1 John 1:6. There are no other sides when it comes to lies. So, how do you sow to the light to reap righteousness? Psalm 97:11. Nasb.
Everyone remains a heretic:
{5:6} Therefore have we erred from the way of truth, and the light of righteousness hath not shined unto us, and the sun of righteousness rose not upon us.
{5:7} We wearied ourselves in the way of wickedness and destruction: yea, we have gone through deserts, where there lay no way: but as for the way of the Lord, we have not known it.
I'm 15 minutes into this video and haven't got to the point.
@@michaelmaniaci5937 maybe there isn’t a point🤪😂❤️🙏
@@michaelmaniaci5937 if this is the first video of mine you are watching it might not make sense. I did a whole book club. Maybe checkout my bookclub wars and rumors playlist so you can catch up🙏
@kristinbingamon568 i apologize. That comment was a bit rude . I actually skipped forward and listened to more of what you had to say.
@ no worries I know I ramble 😂. You aren’t the first person to mention it.❤️🙏
There is no way that anything happened in the first century, because Jesus doesn't mention any 7th Seal (THE DAY OF THE LORD) events in his OLIVETTE discourse in ANY of the end times gospels!
The following is PART of the 7th Seal, aka THE DAY OF THE LORD!
You are guilty of NOT LISTENING TO WHAT OTHER PEOPLE SAY! In any case, verse 1 below tells you what THE DAY OF THE LORD will be! WE COME BACK WITH Jesus! Verse 5!
Zechariah 14:1-5
1 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
3 Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.
Revelation 19:14, 19, 8
14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
Revelation 19:8 WHAT THE FINE LINEN REPRESENTS!
And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.
Zechariah 14:5
...and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.
That's what Acts 1 is about, in that Jesus comes back in like manner as he left! TOUCH DOWN SEAHAWKS! Oops, wrong game! TOUCHDOWN ARMAGEDDON! Revelation 16! The Jews were raptured out in chapter 14.
So no, this hasn't happened YET. BUT IT WILL in the FUTURE!
That’s all over too.
There is no more National Israel and there is no more physical Jerusalem either. Jesus said who True Israel is and that the city Jerusalem was going to end.
@@philiptweet5970 That's a lie. If there wasn't, then the Muslims wouldn't be fighting over Jerusalem. You do know that Muslims live in the area, right? You people want to make this about Christians vs. Jews, but Muslims make it Muslims vs. Jews and Christians.
@@philiptweet5970 You are rather late to the party, pal, but I will say this, that the book of Revelation is about the salvation of the Jews, not their destruction. There was only 2 tribes in Israel in the 70ad era, and there MUST BE all twelve tribes in the physical land, not just the 2 that was there in 70 ad. Ezekiel 36-37 STILL MUST PLAY OUT! And that's what makes your dogma false. Your favorite word, "DESOLATE" is desolate no more. If it were, there would be NO ONE, including Jews in Israel now. God would have made sure of that! And yes, there is indeed ETHNIC Jews. But even if there weren't. RUTH was a Moabite. That means, NOT A JEW. And she was the GRANDMOTHER OF KING DAVID, a Jew! So figure that one out! She's considered a Jew by the basis of CONVERTING to Judaism. So, you don't have to be ETHNIC to be a Jew! You just have to follow Judaism.
There is no Jew or Greek in Christ.
The interpretation you hold is what happens when you trust your pastor more than you trust the word of God. His kingdom does not come with observation. Pray about it, God will not lead you the wrong way.
All things were fulfilled, the jots and tittles of the law passed.
Think about what you’re saying, the Bible would have been nonsense from AD 70 to 1948 when there was no physical Israel.
Israel is God’s people, and that’s us.
Ezekiel 39
23 And the heathen shall know that the house of Israel went into captivity for their iniquity: because they trespassed against me, therefore hid I my face from them, and gave them into the hand of their enemies: *_so fell they all by the sword._*
The original House Of Israel is no more.
Matthew 24
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
These 3 verses in the Olivet Discourse are the beginnings of New Heaven and New Earth. It says *_immediately after the Tribulation of those those days._* In other words, the 7th seal has opened, the 7th trumpet has blown, and the 7th vial has been poured out.