Awesome job. Thanks for showing this to all us beginners. You cleared that up so easily that any beginner should understand what you were teaching by watching this video no more than a couple times. Thanks again for the instruction
Hello Mike, yes your ground handling is world class, absolutely not to be beaten. I wish I could only do half what you can. Congratulations, keep up the good work and show us many more brilliant videos
I love this techique and as mentioned it will take lots of practice and time to master it,Mike makes it look easy.i guess its really like being one with your wing and learning to relax more during training and groundhandling sessions.
@nanoqg The point Mike makes is that in strong wind, if you use the brakes you will generate lift and thus get pulled off the ground. He is presenting a technique for kiting on the ground without getting lifted off.
gsabbio, Thank you for this excellent video. I am learning to ground handle. I tried this CD riser method and it gives so much control of the glider. If the wind is bit strong - brakes are dangerous as they will make the glider to lift off. I believe everyone should start learning by CD-riser method shown in this video. Progress to use brakes to control only after mastering this technique. Not the otherway around. I am so surprised that why this method is not widely taught as this is the safest way to learn for a beginner. Only use the brakes when the wind speed is low as shown by MK in this video as well.
Mike, I first saw this video along time ago and have tried the traditional way I was taught and then used this technique down on the beach. I like your method for getting the glider up fast and aggressive handling on the ground, the glider seems a lot more responsive using the A's, D's and C's in the combination you have shown here. I like it for control in strong winds and getting the glider up and down quickly. I am no expert by a long shot however, this helped me in my training. Thanks for the tips mate. Also a big shout out to my instructor Jean Luke for his excellent teachings. Cheers men and keep up the good work, love to more of these vid's.
what I don't understand is what does he do differently in order to lift off vs. avoid being lifted off by the glider? In both cases he seems to pull the C/D-Risers, both for bring it down and for lifting off @03:27
I learned both techniques, the classic one with brakes always in hand and the one MK is teaching in this video. The summary of my experiences so far: classic (A risers in one hand, C(D) risers in other hand): + brake handles in correct hands for flight, right from the beginning + simple ascent/descent movements (not much to learn here) - strongly limited lateral steering capability in climbing stage* - limited control of the glider at the zenith stage (only with brakes)* - inverted steering (pulling brake on left side results in a glider move to the right side and vice versa) - pulling brakes will lift the glider, potentially resulting in an unintended start (i.e. from a hill) with untwisting in strong/gusty wind conditions. * is compensable by body movements, but requires advanced training of pilot MK: + maximum glider control in climbing stage as well as at zenith stage, steering is always possible + unintended start with untwisting in a gust is nearly impossible + no inverted steering at any time + pulling C risers only gives smallest possible lift o motion sequences (switching hands from A to C risers, passing brake handle) need some hours of pilot training, but gets automated quickly - brake must be passed from hand to the other quickly(!) before starting As a beginner (what I am) I would only use the classic technique in weak laminar wind conditions, for more demanding conditions I'd always prefer MK technique, but only after I automated the movements. Especially the dangerous situation of an unintented start due to a gust with only brake control is reason enough to set the classic technique aside. Some videos give a good proof of this issue. To those people that always scream "but you have to grab the brake handles!!!": Calm down and give it a try. The first time I practised it I was excited as hell. But after I turned myself around, grabbed the other brake handle and jumped into the air, it was like "So, that's it? That easy?". In summary, I feel more safe when doing ground handling exercises with MK technique. PS: The classic method was taught by a flight instructor where I also got my pilot licence. MK himself taught me his technique in a separate class afterwards.
What are you talking about on "classic method?" You have all the controll in the world like that! You can steer the wing in any direction by A or C or any combination of both by pulling one hand to the side or both hands in different directions...
@turbine1974 In my humble opinion, the difference is that when he wants to be lifted, he just gives speed to the wing running back, and then he pulls the C+D risers to induce the stall.
Great technique! I tried with good results for control my Gradient NEVADA2 glider in Brazil! Of course, you need to be well positioned respect the wind direction! COULD YOU PLEASE GIVE US SOME CLUE ABOUT YOUR HELMET? I really liked it!
Thank you!! I’m a beginner and I just learned something very helpful!!! I’m trying it tomorrow at the park. I think you just taught me something I was missing. I’m so stoked!!! Thank you !!!!
@turbine1974 He does everything just pulling the C+D risers: If he just leave the C+D he can fly (backward) as the glider is lifted by the wind. If he deeply pulls the C+D he can avoid to be lifted or steer the glider when he is airborne or even force the glider to land. All the glider control is done via C+D, it works exactly as like as the normal brakes, but the glider reaction in faster and killing the profile lift is more effective. So you can avoiod to be airborne if you don't want to.
@sundancer84 Is it really necessary to have the brakes in your hand, he even explains that you have more control with C+D. And you even learn in P2 to fly with your D's in case of brake failure.
To be fair, this video is old and the technique worked wonders if you wanted to climb walls and impress people, but don't try this with a 3 liner that doesn't overshoot, has all lines the same colour (unsheathed), under irregular wind speed in a small take-off.
This technique looks okay at coastal sites, or with gliders that do not want to shoot over your head on inflation. I am not so sure about sites in land where the winds are gusty. I used to use this technique, but many people told me to switch to the crossed hands technique instead.
"the glider is flying by itself" because with a strong wind, once inflated above the head, it needs no input to keep on flying, as the wind is enough to do it. The pilot has to control it in order to be not lifted.
well i started 4 months ago i have 33 mountain flgiths and about 120 hours in kiting,but i not sure on winds speeds for kiting,i think i can kite better then most of the pilots i fly with from what ive seen.
yep trained up with this as a 2nd technique thru my windy winter! here's the thing your You Guys are all correct!. @ first i thought what the fuck have i got myself into, pulling up A lines then missing one set of C&D because my wing was snapped up so frigging fast i was to slow to react, MESS! So i didn't give up I kept @ it for months , now its Saved my Frigin arse on more than one occasion, Its Knowledge, I'm sure theirs more to add Yes?
@Piiiikay I dont say hes not skilled, his ground handling is really precise. I just want to say that I didnt find it practical/usefull... this is nice for playing with the wing in lowlands, but not when you are on dangerous start... thats my opinion. No offence, just opinion!
An example of the best, easiest and safest RHRRs-LHLRs technique being developed by "few pioneers" experienced/expert PG pilots around the world. Full details here: microtron.net/using-right-hand-for-the-right-riser-and-left-hand-for-the-left-riser
Parabéns Mike, muito importante estas instruções que você mostrou, Vou aplicar aqui em Sorocaba - SÃO Paulo - Brasil. Veja nossos vôos youtube ............rubinhosorocaba Um abraço. Rubinho
I'm sorry but this little nicknack at 5:10 is a recipe for a big mess-up. The fact that he does not take the brake handles in his hands makes this method useless. I've seen SO many people doing that when it's a bit windy and being completely loss and entangled with the brakes in the wrong hands or no brakes at all because they can't catch them on time... You can do the same with the brakes in your hands.
I always pray for knowledge to be taught to me safely by experience and for safety while flying. It is not a fear thing but a humbling of myself knowing that ultimately I only control a rag with string attached and not the weather. Use common sense and discretion. Learning to fly backwards using c's and a's (controlling pitch of wing) from small but steep hills saved my ass while kiting up to launch more than once. Flying my wing up the face certainly required less effort but I have been plucked many times unexpectedly while doing so getting very close to top. No problem if you are familiar with flying by c's /c"s and d's. Fly yourself a safe distance away from hill and turn around. Do not have that skill, I hope this never happens to you as it could end up ugly. I could fly all day backwards with c's , land gently backwards with c's and never use brakes even though they are in my hands always. Always pray for safety and knowledge.......can not hurt. OUR LADY has yet to teach me anything in a dangerous and swift manner. SHE never has let me down harshly. I wish all such a safe learning experience. Call me whatever one likes (superstitious etc.) but I place my well being in HER hands every time before leaving the ground.
Big respect to PG hero Mike but...A bit this presentation is a bit disappointment from him. I would not suggest this technique to even my "enemies". In case of sudden gust the student would loose the controll. Brake handles should be on both hands, not let them off. C or D risers in one hand(depends on 3 or 4 liner) and A s in that hand what used for pulling the wing up. One thing to be great pilot and another to teach people , my opinion. I love that Vonblon harness! :)
Being humble, what about that? You're talking of "mad Mike" who, together with other, say, 20 pilot in the world are perfectioning and building and testing gliders to have you flying safer and safer. Being humble, what about that?
I am not to 100% agree with him, in my opinion, you should never take off without having the brakes in your hands. I always take off with the brakes crossed in each hand, so that when I turn, I don`t have to change or to look for my brakes first.
zinourson To each their own. MK makes this look perfect because he is very good at it and the wind is smooth. Myself, I never launch without brakes in hand. I prefer the Mitsos launch as a variation of this technique becasue I feel I have full control and can quickly react to gusts, etc. in more variable conditions. A brake in each hand (crossed so they are in the correct hand when you turn), both A's in one hand and both C's in the other. You can totally control the ascent of your glider above your head. Highly recommend this technique!
iannoelle Agree, this is the technique taught these days by most if not all instructors? (this vid dated 2009) Still, it is good to know all ground handling techniques and practice them to help with your understanding and confidence. Strong winds require good control and technique and sometimes side launch (cobra) and use of less surface area with conventional wing layout can be useful too! enjoy and safe flying.
I completely disagree with this. Yikes. Check out my videos for details of the other way to do glider control where you have complete and total control. This video looks ok because he is really good. If the wing goes to a 45 degree then the pilot loses all control with that technique. High winds is about weight shift and not creating drag. You need to be able to steer with weight shift as there is no drag with weight shift. Then you need hands on the brakes. Just watch...
@@ollycopter You have no skills so why are you ignorantly talking trash for no reason? That's what foolishness is. When your skills are beyond mind then you can talk about what you know. Since you literally can't even do what my brand new students can do you are only acting evil in talking mindless trash.
Well.... this is not good didactic video. Hes not holding the control brakes, and I suppose it can put him into potentially dangerous situation. The C/D method is quite well known, but skilled pilots have their brakes on their hands at least.
warum wird den Leuten immer so ein Käse erzählt? Wer es kann braucht das Video nicht und macht es eh anders und wer es nicht kann...wird es so nicht lernen....
Awesome job. Thanks for showing this to all us beginners. You cleared that up so easily that any beginner should understand what you were teaching by watching this video no more than a couple times. Thanks again for the instruction
Hello Mike, yes your ground handling is world class, absolutely not to be beaten. I wish I could only do half what you can. Congratulations, keep up the good work and show us many more brilliant videos
I love this techique and as mentioned it will take lots of practice and time to master it,Mike makes it look easy.i guess its really like being one with your wing and learning to relax more during training and groundhandling sessions.
@nanoqg The point Mike makes is that in strong wind, if you use the brakes you will generate lift and thus get pulled off the ground. He is presenting a technique for kiting on the ground without getting lifted off.
gsabbio,
Thank you for this excellent video.
I am learning to ground handle. I tried this CD riser method and it gives so much control of the glider. If the wind is bit strong - brakes are dangerous as they will make the glider to lift off. I believe everyone should start learning by CD-riser method shown in this video.
Progress to use brakes to control only after mastering this technique. Not the otherway around. I am so surprised that why this method is not widely taught as this is the safest way to learn for a beginner.
Only use the brakes when the wind speed is low as shown by MK in this video as well.
Mike, I first saw this video along time ago and have tried the traditional way I was taught and then used this technique down on the beach. I like your method for getting the glider up fast and aggressive handling on the ground, the glider seems a lot more responsive using the A's, D's and C's in the combination you have shown here. I like it for control in strong winds and getting the glider up and down quickly. I am no expert by a long shot however, this helped me in my training. Thanks for the tips mate. Also a big shout out to my instructor Jean Luke for his excellent teachings. Cheers men and keep up the good work, love to more of these vid's.
Mike you need to come to Beach Blast 2010 "Flying in Paradise" It is in the USA in Florida May 6th thru the 9th.
Is that still going on these days?
what I don't understand is what does he do differently in order to lift off vs. avoid being lifted off by the glider? In both cases he seems to pull the C/D-Risers, both for bring it down and for lifting off @03:27
Классный пилот Mike Kung с этим видео я научился взлетать в сильный ветер !!!
Good, video and information thanks for share
This looks so easy, indeed it needs a lot of experience and practice to handle a paraglider like MK.
Thanks for the instructions.
MK is the best.
I learned both techniques, the classic one with brakes always in hand and the one MK is teaching in this video. The summary of my experiences so far:
classic (A risers in one hand, C(D) risers in other hand):
+ brake handles in correct hands for flight, right from the beginning
+ simple ascent/descent movements (not much to learn here)
- strongly limited lateral steering capability in climbing stage*
- limited control of the glider at the zenith stage (only with brakes)*
- inverted steering (pulling brake on left side results in a glider move to the right side and vice versa)
- pulling brakes will lift the glider, potentially resulting in an unintended start (i.e. from a hill) with untwisting in strong/gusty wind conditions.
* is compensable by body movements, but requires advanced training of pilot
MK:
+ maximum glider control in climbing stage as well as at zenith stage, steering is always possible
+ unintended start with untwisting in a gust is nearly impossible
+ no inverted steering at any time
+ pulling C risers only gives smallest possible lift
o motion sequences (switching hands from A to C risers, passing brake handle) need some hours of pilot training, but gets automated quickly
- brake must be passed from hand to the other quickly(!) before starting
As a beginner (what I am) I would only use the classic technique in weak laminar wind conditions, for more demanding conditions I'd always prefer MK technique, but only after I automated the movements. Especially the dangerous situation of an unintented start due to a gust with only brake control is reason enough to set the classic technique aside. Some videos give a good proof of this issue. To those people that always scream "but you have to grab the brake handles!!!": Calm down and give it a try. The first time I practised it I was excited as hell. But after I turned myself around, grabbed the other brake handle and jumped into the air, it was like "So, that's it? That easy?". In summary, I feel more safe when doing ground handling exercises with MK technique.
PS: The classic method was taught by a flight instructor where I also got my pilot licence. MK himself taught me his technique in a separate class afterwards.
What are you talking about on "classic method?" You have all the controll in the world like that! You can steer the wing in any direction by A or C or any combination of both by pulling one hand to the side or both hands in different directions...
Very good tutorial, can not wait to practice it :) I wish you also had a tutorial for soaring?
@turbine1974 In my humble opinion, the difference is that when he wants to be lifted, he just gives speed to the wing running back, and then he pulls the C+D risers to induce the stall.
Great technique! I tried with good results for control my Gradient NEVADA2 glider in Brazil! Of course, you need to be well positioned respect the wind direction! COULD YOU PLEASE GIVE US SOME CLUE ABOUT YOUR HELMET? I really liked it!
Thank you!! I’m a beginner and I just learned something very helpful!!! I’m trying it tomorrow at the park. I think you just taught me something I was missing. I’m so stoked!!! Thank you !!!!
Great control by Mike. Everybody must to learn this.
@turbine1974
He does everything just pulling the C+D risers:
If he just leave the C+D he can fly (backward) as the glider is lifted by the wind.
If he deeply pulls the C+D he can avoid to be lifted or steer the glider when he is airborne or even force the glider to land.
All the glider control is done via C+D, it works exactly as like as the normal brakes, but the glider reaction in faster and killing the profile lift is more effective. So you can avoiod to be airborne if you don't want to.
@sundancer84 Is it really necessary to have the brakes in your hand, he even explains that you have more control with C+D. And you even learn in P2 to fly with your D's in case of brake failure.
Thanks for the C,D riser Tips, will try that next time out.
To be fair, this video is old and the technique worked wonders if you wanted to climb walls and impress people, but don't try this with a 3 liner that doesn't overshoot, has all lines the same colour (unsheathed), under irregular wind speed in a small take-off.
This technique looks okay at coastal sites, or with gliders that do not want to shoot over your head on inflation. I am not so sure about sites in land where the winds are gusty. I used to use this technique, but many people told me to switch to the crossed hands technique instead.
excellent video, a question on which the class paragliders doing ??
danijel makar
It is a Paratech P45 a very safe DHV 1-2 class glider, designed in 2009, but he does it with every class glider
On a three liner this method doesn't really work that well but if you have a four liner than it's quite a good method to use in strong winds
"the glider is flying by itself" because with a strong wind, once inflated above the head, it needs no input to keep on flying, as the wind is enough to do it. The pilot has to control it in order to be not lifted.
Nice control. Aren't the CD risers a lot more touchy than the brakes, though?
well i started 4 months ago i have 33 mountain flgiths and about 120 hours in kiting,but i not sure on winds speeds for kiting,i think i can kite better then most of the pilots i fly with from what ive seen.
That helmet is awesome! What is the make/brand/model?
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WRONG helmet!
nice helmet! where i can get one?
what is to much wind to kite in?
what does he mean when he says the glider is flying by it self?
great video
@goodspeedgotw
It's manufactured by LEVIOR. It's a skydiving model,
That would depend on a combination of your skill level and the performance of your wing. For me that is about 18-20mph.
Dell, you can disagree, but then you would be wrong. :)
+B Tankful LMAO!
I don't care because I am not a paragliding, but seems like he's a professional paragliding guy.
Extreme control !!!!!
Spectacular !!!!!!!
yep trained up with this as a 2nd technique thru my windy winter! here's the thing your You Guys are all correct!. @ first i thought what the fuck have i got myself into, pulling up A lines then missing one set of C&D because my wing was snapped up so frigging fast i was to slow to react, MESS! So i didn't give up I kept @ it for months , now its Saved my Frigin arse on more than one occasion, Its Knowledge, I'm sure theirs more to add Yes?
Awesome video
excellent video
very nice video
Thank you for posting
Thank you for sharing
@Piiiikay I dont say hes not skilled, his ground handling is really precise. I just want to say that I didnt find it practical/usefull... this is nice for playing with the wing in lowlands, but not when you are on dangerous start... thats my opinion.
No offence, just opinion!
An example of the best, easiest and safest RHRRs-LHLRs technique being developed by "few pioneers" experienced/expert PG pilots around the world. Full details here: microtron.net/using-right-hand-for-the-right-riser-and-left-hand-for-the-left-riser
@gsabbio peccato che non è in italiano!!
very intuitive,
super control ,bravo
florin mindrutoiu h
@sundancer84
You really think, that Mike Küng isn't a skilled pilot?
merci
Sensacional...
Parabéns Mike, muito importante estas instruções que você mostrou,
Vou aplicar aqui em Sorocaba - SÃO Paulo - Brasil.
Veja nossos vôos youtube ............rubinhosorocaba
Um abraço.
Rubinho
goo ! but we can't see de glider !
A legend!
🤩🤩🤩
well done
I'm sorry but this little nicknack at 5:10 is a recipe for a big mess-up. The fact that he does not take the brake handles in his hands makes this method useless. I've seen SO many people doing that when it's a bit windy and being completely loss and entangled with the brakes in the wrong hands or no brakes at all because they can't catch them on time... You can do the same with the brakes in your hands.
Just Play....
of course...
If somebody prays before or meanwhile flying... it's better for him to stop the game
I always pray for knowledge to be taught to me safely by experience and for safety while flying. It is not a fear thing but a humbling of myself knowing that ultimately I only control a rag with string attached and not the weather. Use common sense and discretion. Learning to fly backwards using c's and a's (controlling pitch of wing) from small but steep hills saved my ass while kiting up to launch more than once. Flying my wing up the face certainly required less effort but I have been plucked many times unexpectedly while doing so getting very close to top. No problem if you are familiar with flying by c's /c"s and d's. Fly yourself a safe distance away from hill and turn around. Do not have that skill, I hope this never happens to you as it could end up ugly. I could fly all day backwards with c's , land gently backwards with c's and never use brakes even though they are in my hands always. Always pray for safety and knowledge.......can not hurt. OUR LADY has yet to teach me anything in a dangerous and swift manner. SHE never has let me down harshly. I wish all such a safe learning experience. Call me whatever one likes (superstitious etc.) but I place my well being in HER hands every time before leaving the ground.
perfect!
That's a lot of strings.
nice one:)
SHOW!
TOP !!
Big respect to PG hero Mike but...A bit this presentation is a bit disappointment from him. I would not suggest this technique to even my "enemies". In case of sudden gust the student would loose the controll.
Brake handles should be on both hands, not let them off. C or D risers in one hand(depends on 3 or 4 liner) and A s in that hand what used for pulling the wing up. One thing to be great pilot and another to teach people , my opinion. I love that Vonblon harness! :)
Ditto :)
Being humble, what about that?
You're talking of "mad Mike" who, together with other, say, 20 pilot in the world are perfectioning and building and testing gliders to have you flying safer and safer.
Being humble, what about that?
just play, not pray :)
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I am not to 100% agree with him, in my opinion, you should never take off without having the brakes in your hands. I always take off with the brakes crossed in each hand, so that when I turn, I don`t have to change or to look for my brakes first.
I do agree with you
zinourson To each their own. MK makes this look perfect because he is very good at it and the wind is smooth. Myself, I never launch without brakes in hand. I prefer the Mitsos launch as a variation of this technique becasue I feel I have full control and can quickly react to gusts, etc. in more variable conditions. A brake in each hand (crossed so they are in the correct hand when you turn), both A's in one hand and both C's in the other. You can totally control the ascent of your glider above your head. Highly recommend this technique!
iannoelle Agree, this is the technique taught these days by most if not all instructors? (this vid dated 2009) Still, it is good to know all ground handling techniques and practice them to help with your understanding and confidence. Strong winds require good control and technique and sometimes side launch (cobra) and use of less surface area with conventional wing layout can be useful too! enjoy and safe flying.
I completely disagree with this. Yikes. Check out my videos for details of the other way to do glider control where you have complete and total control. This video looks ok because he is really good. If the wing goes to a 45 degree then the pilot loses all control with that technique. High winds is about weight shift and not creating drag. You need to be able to steer with weight shift as there is no drag with weight shift. Then you need hands on the brakes. Just watch...
Dell Schanze Man you still around? You must be up to 7-8 lives used now.. And I’m not talking about your students...
@@ollycopter I am still around and better than ever before!
Ok but your ground handling crash? Feeling better yet?
@@ollycopter You have no skills so why are you ignorantly talking trash for no reason? That's what foolishness is. When your skills are beyond mind then you can talk about what you know. Since you literally can't even do what my brand new students can do you are only acting evil in talking mindless trash.
With this technique the pilot is totally exposed for critical moments. IMHO.
Well.... this is not good didactic video. Hes not holding the control brakes, and I suppose it can put him into potentially dangerous situation.
The C/D method is quite well known, but skilled pilots have their brakes on their hands at least.
warum wird den Leuten immer so ein Käse erzählt?
Wer es kann braucht das Video nicht und macht es eh anders und wer es nicht kann...wird es so nicht lernen....