Next Generation of Trolleybuses in Dayton, Ohio, USA 2018

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  • Dayton, Ohio is one of five cities in the United States to have a trolleybus (trackless trolley) system still in operation. The city has a population of 140,000, making it the smallest city in North America with a trolleybus system.
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    In May 2013, RTA placed an order with Vossloh Kiepe for four prototype low-floor, dual-mode buses, the first of which (No. 1401) arrived on September 29, 2014, and the other three between November 2014 and January 2015. Gillig provided the bus bodies, using its "BRT" model, into which the Vossloh Kiepe propulsion equipment was installed. All four are capable of operating as trolley buses, but for operation away from the trolley wires, two use a diesel-powered generator to power the traction motors (similar to a hybrid bus) and two use batteries only. Vossloh Kiepe referred to the technology as "NexGen", for Next Generation, a branding that RTA has also used when referring to the new vehicles. ~Wikipedia
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    Unfortunately only the NextGen were operating as the other trolley routes seemed to have construction or other issues; thereby reducing the amount of trolleybuses running on this day of filming to (two or three?) nextgen. At first it seemed that they were not running trolleybuses at all.
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    Thank you for your support. Comment below so all of us can have a productive and insightful conversation about transportation!
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  • @johnwoa
    @johnwoa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I'm very happy to see that Dayton still operates trolley buses. I'm originally from Cincinnati and I frequently rode the old Marmon-Herrington trolley buses (Cincinnati Transit Co.) that ran there prior to 1965. As a youngster, I loved those trolley buses! When I came to Toronto, Ontario in 1986, the Toronto Transit Commission (TTC) still operated trolley buses (the "old" Flyer trolley buses) on many routes. The trolley buses finally disappeared from Toronto streets in 1993 but we still have our extensive streetcar network to this day.

  • @hemprope4326
    @hemprope4326 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Trolleybuses are one of the best forms of public transit. They should be in use everywhere. They're not harmful to the environment, but they have all the advantages of a normal bus. They're also more affordable because they don't require gas.

    • @WesternOhioInterurbanHistory
      @WesternOhioInterurbanHistory 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "they have all the advantages of a normal bus"
      You cannot reroute them, and they are stuck to their overhead wire. It might as well be a streetcar or tram. The only difference is, they might be able to pass other vehicles and have better acceleration, and cost less. Normal buses are superior, as they can go anywhere.

    • @antonnovotny4499
      @antonnovotny4499 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@WesternOhioInterurbanHistory You really didn t get what re this next generation trolleybuses, this re ones that can go even without wire thanks to battery which is charged during ride...

    • @WesternOhioInterurbanHistory
      @WesternOhioInterurbanHistory 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@antonnovotny4499 still somewhat limited to overhead wire

    • @antonnovotny4499
      @antonnovotny4499 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WesternOhioInterurbanHistory Normal buses re limited to diesel stations and elektrobuses re limited to charging stations and cabels, none of them is capable of doing it during ride... also to store energy in battery during charging loses 10 - 20 % of energy and diesel motor isn t so effectiv as electric...

    • @makeachaininthecommentsect7953
      @makeachaininthecommentsect7953 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not harmful for the environment? They recieve power from coal power plants, which emit 2 times more CO2 than ICE cars and nuclear power plants, that require mining and transporting radioactive materials, produce nuclear waste and are pretty dangerous if something goes wrong.

  • @steve1reg
    @steve1reg 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Hey, not only does Dayton have trolley buses. But at :27 in the video, we see a sign for an Arby's Roast Beef Restaurant that must date back about 40 years! The chain used to use a cowboy hat sign, and there it is, as the #8 trolley bus goes by.

  • @DanTheCaptain
    @DanTheCaptain 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    It's truly a shame how many American and Canadian cities got ride of Trolleybuses and Trams. I wish more would have survived

    • @kae4466
      @kae4466 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      you can blame the three major usa automakers for that along with standard oil and a few other industrial giants.

    • @DanTheCaptain
      @DanTheCaptain 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah

    • @mrbrainbob5320
      @mrbrainbob5320 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Besides Toronto,Montreal and Vancouver canadian cities arent that big

    • @urbanviii6557
      @urbanviii6557 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@kae4466 Absolutely true. One of the greatest conspiracies in the 20th c. in North America. May those conspirators, who made billions of $, rot in hell! They fucked up the American cities. And the taxpayers funded trillions of dollars for the jammed up, clogged freeways of 12 lanes or more, all over the country, and smog so dense to kill people.

    • @charonsferryold
      @charonsferryold 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And of course, the cabal that killed them still runs America! Forget about the Freemasons, the Globalists or whatever, the trolley-killers are the real secret rulers of America.

  • @davidwhite3180
    @davidwhite3180 ปีที่แล้ว

    I absolutely enjoyed driving these buses

  • @jemdude22
    @jemdude22 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The bus is soooooo clean smooth and SILENT.... niceeeee

    • @darrylclay2105
      @darrylclay2105 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You should come to Dayton and ride these buses because man lol 😁 they sound good

  • @billjohnston4603
    @billjohnston4603 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    San Francisco , Seattle and Vancouver have trolleybuses as well.

    • @GamerRobYT
      @GamerRobYT ปีที่แล้ว

      And philadelphia and boston

    • @WAL_DC-6B
      @WAL_DC-6B 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GamerRobYT Boston discontinued trolleybuses in 2022.

  • @sungeek2438
    @sungeek2438 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What a gem!!!!!

  • @jamallhayden2512
    @jamallhayden2512 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video!

  • @arifakyuz7673
    @arifakyuz7673 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Trolley buses are a very effective mode of transportation. Cheaper than trams and less polluting than gas buses!

    • @FrostyAUT
      @FrostyAUT 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cheaper than trams, yes, but not without problems.

    • @evanstonbalce9588
      @evanstonbalce9588 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      FrostyAUT Every problem has solutions.

  • @frankdenardo8684
    @frankdenardo8684 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    San Francisco, Seattle, Philadelphia, Boston are the other cities that use trolley buses. Vancouver is the only Canadian city still operating.

  • @GlobalGaming101
    @GlobalGaming101 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    In Tucson, Arizona we have a small streetcar route. The railing is embedded into the road. Would be kinda cool if they added trolly busses to the city.

  • @kae4466
    @kae4466 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    nice looking busses.

    • @darrylclay2105
      @darrylclay2105 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You should come to Dayton Ohio you would love are buses

  • @LSM_Lover
    @LSM_Lover 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Wow! Cool video! I'v never seen a trolley bus.

    • @jemdude22
      @jemdude22 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      You should go ride one and you'll love it!

    • @darrylclay2105
      @darrylclay2105 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rail Faner if you come to Dayton Ohio we have are 1998 skoda trolleys and those Next gen trolleys are good to

  • @t3transport585
    @t3transport585 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Well, when I saw "Dayton" in the title I was really looking forward to seeing some Škoda trolleybuses, but now I'm quite disappointed :( I hope they didn't stop operating definitely..

    • @timosha21
      @timosha21  5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I was hoping too! For the first two hours I did not see a single trolleybus of any kind and thought that they stopped running them. After talking with bus drivers and dispatchers on the ground they claim that most trolley routes have road construction work which trolleybuses cannot traverse.

    • @darrylclay2105
      @darrylclay2105 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Do you like Greater Dayton rta buses

    • @mortonberenbaum2696
      @mortonberenbaum2696 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@timosha21 ïi>hi

  • @michaelheintz8853
    @michaelheintz8853 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Trolleys were all I ever knew growing up in Dayton.

  • @spaceace1006
    @spaceace1006 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I went to SF back in 1997. I had never before seen Electric Buses that used overhead lines!

  • @metropolitantransit7276
    @metropolitantransit7276 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We need trolley buses back.

  • @MJofLakelandX
    @MJofLakelandX 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Legit captures. Dayton just seem like the most unusual place to have trolleybuses survive but they are a gem among a small crowd. I can imagine Baltimore bringing ETBs back but our city planning is piss poor "like always"; plus, we have a hard enough time trying to get a light rail line to surpass the funding phase.

    • @cruzechevy3485
      @cruzechevy3485 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Y'all still have more campared to these guys

  • @gameguild1555
    @gameguild1555 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I heart there are 2 other types of trolleybusses.
    One that can use the overhead line of the tram or where the chare at the begin or end of the line

  • @josueuribe213
    @josueuribe213 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excelentes trolebuses de Ohio.

  • @safeatthird6060
    @safeatthird6060 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So COOL

  • @marcelcharbonnier297
    @marcelcharbonnier297 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some french cities have trolleybuses like Lyons, Nancy, Limoges and Saint-Étienne, my native city where the tramway line (7 km long) created in 1900 never ever was dismantled. There are more and more trams in France (about 8 lines in Paris and its suburbs). Switzerland too has many trams and trolleybuses, perhaps it's due to the abundance of hydroelectricity in this country ? They are modern, silent and environment-friendly.

  • @pzavis25
    @pzavis25 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I saw a lot of those in Salzburg

  • @seanshen8325
    @seanshen8325 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Curious about why this route survived? Its the only trolleybus route in dayton. Other cities have trolleybus like seattle, SF, Philly, they all have numerous lines equipped with trolley bus, large fleet and in all, developed transit system.

    • @RRansomSmith
      @RRansomSmith 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Not so much here in Philly. We have 38 coaches serving 3 lines in Northeast Philly.

    • @evanstonbalce9588
      @evanstonbalce9588 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      San Francisco has the largest fleet.

    • @darrylclay2105
      @darrylclay2105 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@evanstonbalce9588 how many trolleys have you rode

    • @waynewright2886
      @waynewright2886 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      San Francisco Has Put Out 40 Foot New Flyer Trolleys for its Muni Fleet Last Year, & I Think their Still Replacing them as I Post!
      I got to Ride their Newer 60 New Flyer Articulated Trolley Bus (7200 Series), on its Busy #5 Line Last May Around 11PM, & I Did Good Climbing Hills, & was Crowded Also!

    • @darrylclay2105
      @darrylclay2105 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@waynewright2886 cool how many ETIs are in service

  • @bartenderedge7450
    @bartenderedge7450 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That Lovely Trackless Trolley Oh Yes

    • @darrylclay2105
      @darrylclay2105 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hay you rode these buses before

    • @bartenderedge7450
      @bartenderedge7450 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@darrylclay2105 not quite if I see another one that says Next Generation Trackless Trolleys Right After Septa New Flyer Trackless Trolley Bus I Wish There Was The Same One Doing The Same Service Today Like Gillg Trackless Trolleys Too But No New Flyer Trackless Trolleys Replacement A Back Up Services And Peaks And Rush hour An Trackless Trolleys Tours it's True That Really True

    • @darrylclay2105
      @darrylclay2105 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bartenderedge7450 oh do you think you will ride one sometime

    • @bartenderedge7450
      @bartenderedge7450 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@darrylclay2105 Sure When I Visiting Arrive at Dayton Ohio it's True

  • @hobog
    @hobog 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do they have the new pole tech that Seattle could really use, the stuff that minimises bounces that break contact?

    • @chevrolet1319
      @chevrolet1319 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      These are able to go 50 mph on straight wire no problem! Even if the roads are bad

  • @donaldduck1386
    @donaldduck1386 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    how I love the trolleybus is the most inspiring impressive transport when trolleybus wires pass over the highway and the trolleybus rods slide along the wires it's so inspiring it's impressive it's a whole landscape but it's a pity if in the near future the trolleybus is removed the wires are dismantled it's a pity there won't be a trolleybus it will be boring without a trolleybus in many cities trolleybuses were removed in moscow trolleybuses were removed the largest trolleybus network in new zealand in Wellington the trolleybus was removed left-hand drive steering wheel on the right door on the left is the most inspiring trolleybus the only trolleybus the city of left-hand traffic where the trolleybus was removed, it's a pity that soon the trolleybus will begin to be removed around, because first-class electric buses have already been produced, buses on acomulators TESLA has already released such and it's a pity that trolleybuses on wires will soon disappear from these buses and it will be boring without them, it will be nice to see how trolleybus wires pass along our street of our city and a trolleybus passes through them, it's a nice, classic landscape and it's a pity soon there will be no wires for trolleybuses, only one will walk electric buses and electric buses as a landscape do not inspire but a trolleybus with wires inspire and soothe

  • @darrylclay2105
    @darrylclay2105 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Timosha 21 do you no if Dayton rta will keep some of the older trolleys or scrap them

    • @imgursdownvote4love771
      @imgursdownvote4love771 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      They kept one for their historic fleet

    • @darrylclay2105
      @darrylclay2105 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@imgursdownvote4love771 yeah we have 10 left in service

  • @waynewright2886
    @waynewright2886 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I Have Never Seen a Gillig Trolley Bus, Not Even San Francisco Has Gillig Trolleys in its Fleet Only New Flyer & What's Left of the Neoplan Trolleys in the Muni Fleet, but Not Gillig, & Gillig's Headquarters & Plant is Across the Bay in Pleasanton, Calif, which Moved it's Headquarters & Plant in Hayward to its Current Site, in the Same County (Alameda) about 20 or 30 Miles Away a Couple of Years Ago!

  • @centredoorplugsthornton4112
    @centredoorplugsthornton4112 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    OK what's up with Dayton having only one trolleycoach route with the prototypes, and the Skoda ETBs parked? Does RTA have enough diesel buses to cover trolleybus routes? Or is it restarting its spiral to transit's lowest common denominator?

    • @kevinjones8778
      @kevinjones8778 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dayton has a lot of trolley routes more than one I'm from there

    • @centredoorplugsthornton4112
      @centredoorplugsthornton4112 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I skimmed Wikipedia. Dayton RTA has rts 1 thru 5 plus 7 and 8 as trolleycoach lines. But they often mix diesel buses and trolleybuses on these routes. Only 35 of the 54 Skoda ETBs still operate. RTA will only get 26 production ETBs from the builder they have the 4 prototypes from.

    • @darrylclay2105
      @darrylclay2105 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@centredoorplugsthornton4112 did you hear about those 2700s they retired

    • @centredoorplugsthornton4112
      @centredoorplugsthornton4112 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Darryl Clay no which ones were they?

    • @darrylclay2105
      @darrylclay2105 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@centredoorplugsthornton4112 those were gilligs they got replace by new gilligs the new ones are 1800s

  • @8523251
    @8523251 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    а у вас есть видео пожарные машины Нью Йорка?

  • @joshuaa8355
    @joshuaa8355 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    how awful it must be to have loud and annoying ads blasting on your busride

  • @Quince828
    @Quince828 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Those ads and loud announcements sound really annoying. Would put one right off public transit.

  • @chuckcamarcefilmsstudios3801
    @chuckcamarcefilmsstudios3801 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did all of Dayton's Older Trolleys retire?

    • @darrylclay2105
      @darrylclay2105 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      As of right now Dayton's trolleys are still running by 2019 they will retire to replace with the Nextgen trolleys

    • @imgursdownvote4love771
      @imgursdownvote4love771 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      They're all gone now (as of December)

  • @cfr8889
    @cfr8889 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The wires looks like in Romania

  • @mlmix9171
    @mlmix9171 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And Škoda 14TrE ended in Dayton?

    • @darrylclay2105
      @darrylclay2105 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How did it ended we still have our 1998 skoda trolleys. those New Nexgen trolleys will wipe those skodas out

  • @drdewott9154
    @drdewott9154 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:02 Did he just use the emergency blink there without turning it off?

    • @softwerksaol
      @softwerksaol 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought he same, driver appears to leave hazard lights on continuously.

  • @milwaukee1486
    @milwaukee1486 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Dayton should just get a streetcar

    • @videonut1988
      @videonut1988 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Milwaukee 148, Baby steps for DRTA...

    • @WAL_DC-6B
      @WAL_DC-6B 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, in addition to the trolleybuses.

  • @litlgrey
    @litlgrey 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I swear to god, those vehicles are nothing but recent Natural Gas buses - still sporting their Natural Gas caps exactly as seen throughout the COTA System in nearby Columbus and elsewhere - hastily converted for electric line use. I'm more than open to anyone proving me wrong about this.

    • @chevrolet1319
      @chevrolet1319 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Those are BRT Plus Body’s that’s all... They are fully Electric and weigh a lot more than CNG buses. They just use the frame and body.

    • @litlgrey
      @litlgrey 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@chevrolet1319 Ah, thank you. i didn't know that.

  • @halloweenruntz
    @halloweenruntz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This whole video is the 8 one clip was the 1 or the 4

  • @metro43
    @metro43 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Electric buses

  • @plamenpanchev312
    @plamenpanchev312 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's the reason buses and trolleybuses in USA to have not cab for the driver? It's stupid...

    • @videonut1988
      @videonut1988 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Plamen Valentinov, it’s still a bus. No need for a cab for the driver like light rail cars.

  • @neotastic5731
    @neotastic5731 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well this is why we have subways...

  • @Bugaran
    @Bugaran 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Solaris trolleys in Europe are better

  • @nikolastaikov-yh7ry
    @nikolastaikov-yh7ry ปีที่แล้ว

    Bruh in ohio

  • @waltkeast9777
    @waltkeast9777 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A downtown of nothing...

  • @georgerascon1825
    @georgerascon1825 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    so hideous lol

  • @artificialintelligence5087
    @artificialintelligence5087 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    We don't need trolleybuses. Oil companies need to have food on the table, too. Oil, oil, oil, OIL. Use oil.

    • @evanstonbalce9588
      @evanstonbalce9588 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Occupy Mars Trolleybus manufacturers need to make profits too.

    • @billw.9743
      @billw.9743 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      So says the 'wizard' of nothing! Perhaps you should live on 'Mars'---have an unsafe trip!