Sigma 50mm f1.4 Art vs Canon f1.4 and f1.8 in 4K: Developing a New Model & Primes vs. Zooms
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Tony & Chelsea Northrup I’m wondering if you would recommend the 50 1.4 or 50-100 1.8. I shoot apsc so that 50 is like my 85 portrait lens, but there are obviously benefits to the zoom. I’m mostly wondering if there is a significant difference in sharpness and focus accuracy. Love the videos!
The 50 1.4 is sharper but not that great on video. Too much focus noise from the USM compare to STM. Sigma...will lose so much money when resale...you better not planning on selling it ever.
I know you did this a LONG time but I have to let you know how valuable these videos are. I love when you (plural) spitball and just chat about the gamut of aspects and let the conversation just unfold naturally. Thank you for your magnificence!
The guy in the backseat shooting was working so hard,he deserves credit :],great video ,good team good clear info, thankyou .
Yeah, Justin works very hard, and he did an awesome job with this video. You should see the stuff he's working on now! Well, I suppose you will, though much of it won't be out for a few months.
What happened to the model on the drive back? In the trunk or buried back there?
Peichen01 Shhhhh!
the cam man are busy panning left and right while drive back ROFL
I wondered the same thing! :)
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Is a $950 lens slightly better than a $120 lens... yes. I just saved you over 18 minutes.
Thanks :D
I still want the $$$$ one, though.
WomackPhotoKCMO Me too. :)
Tinhe32 Always welcome. ;)
Knockout :DDD
thank you for demonstrating us that professional equipment not necessarily have to end up in professional results.
Tony & Chelsea, ultra professional as always. It's always a joy to watch you shoot.
fishcommander100 Thanks!
Nice job on the 1440 and 4k options for the video. Mmmmm, delicious pixels.
I love your methodology of real world and lab results. It's the exact info people like us need to make decisions on gear. I can't even use these lens but it was still very informative. Thanks for your great videos!
Charles Li Thanks!
You two are so entertaining to watch! Love it, learning at the same time! Thanks guys.
Well done, this feels like we're tagging along in person on one of your shoots - thanks for the outing.
You're welcome, and thanks for tagging along!
Thanks for the positive feedback! And hey, thanks for being you!
Awesome location, beautiful model, and great review. I had a great time with you guys last week. Oh and by the way, I'm officially a stunner!
Thanks! Good hanging out!
You should probably Micro Adjust the 24-105mm because my copy is Tack Sharp.
It's hard to MA a zoom lens, b/c you might get one part of the focal range in tact, but then throw out the rest. I have that issue with my 24-70, so I just deal with it.
Just got into photography a few months ago but if I had a dollar for every time someone defended a lens by using the exact phrase "my copy is TACK SHARP" I could already buy a 1DX mark II and the whole L lens lineup lol
@@kingalias My Canon allows me to MA both at 24 and 105 and I found this lens to have very, very acceptable sharpness after proper micro-adjustment.
This video helped me settle on which lens I want/need, and now I'm watching it again with my girlfriend, because she is considering getting her own nifty fifty (we don't live together so we can't share most of the time). This video is also helpful for showing how to behave around models, and how to make them perform better. Thanks, Northrups!
***** Thanks, glad to help!
Cool video I like the fact that your trunk has illuminated or glow-in-the-dark emergency release...
I like the glow in the dark handle, too. If Tony ever kidnaps me I'll be able to easily escape.
15:41 Yep, I tried to shoot a concert manually focusing with a 50mm F1.8. Out of 500 photos, 50 were in focus and only about 10 were somewhat good.
Was this with sigma
The first prime I invested in was the 1.8. Loved the shots (for a nubie) but the build quality was horrible. It fell apart at a friends wedding. I then went to the 1.4 and did not know until now why some parts of a subjects face were out of focus. Thanks! Last year I picked up the Canon EFS 17-55 f/2.8 and use it as my carry around lens. I've been extremely pleased with it. Two things: 1 - really love your ride, and 2 - Chelsea your right on with your Rob Base quote below :-).
Great video, really enjoyed it and love this format, really interesting to see the process you go through and get a good range of examples of the lenses!
On the Len comparisons, you mixed up, is it the sigma lense that is SHARP or the camera,Lense /Camera
I’m just now getting around to watching this one because I am researching 50mm lenses. Got a weird vibe. Tony was a champ, but there was some tense chemistry coming from Chelsea Northrop. I think model Chelsea sensed it too. At first I thought she wasn’t at all photogenic, but when Tony got behind the camera she came alive.
I appreciate this video, great one as usual but I don't agree with what u said at 10:36
The Canon 24-105mm F4 is a very sharp lens, I use both prime and zoom lenses, and this lens do a great job even for makeup portraits at studio.
And by the way on this pic the focus was on the side of her hair not her eyes :)
I don't know if it varies lens to lens, but my 24-105mm L was terrible (was: because I gave it away as a hand-me-down to my brother) I found it interesting that Tony hates it as much as I did. I call it a walk-around-and-come-back-with-nothing lens
16:50 The home alone moment where they realise they left their model at the shoot. :)
I am reluctant to call my 24-105 L terrible, although I've heard people say it's worse than a kit lens as far as sharpness goes which I find hard to believe! Nice review, I really want this lens.
Very pretty model.
What camera did you use for the video camera aside from the various GoPros. I was thinking of picking up a Lumix FZ1000 for 4K duties.
Nice job on the vid production. If you weren't specifically doing a 50mm lens comparison, would you have gone with the 85mm or 135mm on the head shots?
Yes, we normally work at 200mm. The perspective was a HUGE challenge.
Thanks for sharing your opinions and findings. 2 of my friends (and 1 of them has a friend) who have the Canon 50mm 1.4 and all of their auto focus mechanism stopped working after a year. Do you know anything about that? Also, what GoPro are you using in the car? It has no rolling shutter issues and I like that.
I also appreciate Tony's philosophy on specific lenses, where you can get the cheap one and if it is a focal length you will use a lot, then you can upgrade to a more expensive lens that will give you better quality.
Hi Tony, great video. If I may ask, what Canon body were you using, and can you share 4K video camera you used.
Great job guys, on the whole production of this one!
PS: I have the Canon 50mm f1.8 and have taken it out a few times, usually as an 'effect' lens
Thanks, Joe! We're stepping up our production values and appreciate you noticing :).
Thank you Tony, Chelsea and crew. I found this video very informative and helpful.
Great location, lens, model, and people to work with.
I ordered the Sigma 50mm f/1.4 ART with all the outstanding reviews of it on TH-cam. Can't wait to use it during the Rose Parade in Pasadena Ca. Jan. 01, 2017. Been using the Canon 24-70mm f/2.8 in the past a lot so this is gonna be more interesting.
Did you forget the blonde Chelsea on the trip back.
The 50mm 1.4 was the first non kit I bought. It's funny when you zoom in the Sigmas bokeh is better but when you zoomed out you could not really tell the difference between the two images. So $300ish vs $1000ish, my first reaction was Sigma no thanks, and after this video I feel the same.
Yeah, that's a valid response. The difference isn't going to be worth it for many; i just hope to provide you the information you need to make an educated buying decision.
Yes I appreciate it. I'm a photo vlogger too (dslrnerd.com)
it worth when you print the photo with big size and you can u the huge different on every pixel
David Duong THATS what people are forgetting.
Just discovered your channel, your voices... I do not know why but, are quite enjoyable to listen, and the effect of using music when you are talking at the end, inside the car. Is nice.
Glad you liked it Chelsea and I take credit for the voices, but our producer Justin handles the music :).
Justin knows about it!
Chelsea and Tony great video and model advise. The sigma looks amazing. You couldn't have asked for a better day to shoot with the overcast.
really smart how you fast forward the ending annotations... i actually wanted to click one when something caught my eye...
I'm becoming addicted to your videos. Great stuff!!
Silly question time. Though I started out with a Minolta fully manual in the late 70's, I have forgotten a great deal of the details. Is there a happy medium 'Optimus Prime?' made by Sigma that has a better depth of field, or do they only make high end, as in high dollar equipment?
Awesome video, relevant information ten years later!
I love the way this video went hope to see more in the future
Hi, i am a penal lawyer with more than 15 years of litigation experience who also just finished a forensic photography course. I have a Canon 550D and i can't decide if i should buy a Sigma 30mm or 35mm f/1.4 in order to be able to capture natural looking (close to 50mm on a full frame) pictures of crime scenes even un low light conditions, so i wanted to ask which one would you recomend.
Tony, why upload in 4K when the compression is so bad on youtube? 2k is more than enough I guess.
Sorry, i am just a bit confused.
The eye photo comparison shows Sigma for both photo, but in red they are both Canon.
The first comparison between Canon & Sigma both in red, but the computer data shows both as being Sigma.
Awesome video. Really liked the extra production on this one
Thanks for noticing, Andrew! We're trying to step our game up.
Great vid as usual, you should mention that the Sigma is not weather sealed. I love mine, but not taking it out in the rain.
Thanks for taking the time to do these awsome videos Tony!
Who the hell has fake sheep?!
People who look like Billy Bob Thornton?
Great video. The review was excellent and it was great to see some of the video setup you guys use. Seems like Justin has one of the best jobs in the world.
Thanks for watching, Philip! Justin is a great guy, so I hope we're giving him a good job :)
Hey guy's here is a dumb question for you, Chelsea re you running the camera in manual mode or aperture priority? and with the ISO are you shooting on auto ISO or are you adjusting the ISO manually? Thanks Tony and Chelsea love your videos. :)
Chelsea is phenomenal girl...❤❤❤ I thing to buy 50 or 85mm art ,which one,please?
After two years i saw again this beautiful and honest video clip...bay bay DSLR cameras!!!
Did you do a Micro focus adjustment for each lens? I have the Canon 50mm f/1.8 and it was giving me slightly soft images, but I went into the Canon settings and changed the MFA and am now getting amazingly sharp images out of that little lens
amazing video. what light metering mode did you use on your camera for these shots
I really liked this video! Lots of great tips and I like that you showed all the products you use.
Aneta Kudasik Thanks! Glad to help.
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is the Canon 1.4 really better than the 1.8? I saw a review from slr lounge testing the three canon lenses and in their review the order from better to worst: 1.2 -> 1.8 II -> 1.4. But in your video the 1.4 looks sharper than the 1.8 II... Tony Northrup I've seen the DxO comparison but I'm still not sure which is better.
One thing I like your video is that the price of tested gears is very up-to-date. Many videos just have the MSRP, which in most cases is useless.
Tony Northrup I own a Canon 600D/T3i with the 18-55mm+50mm /f1.8. I consider to buy the Sigma 17-50mm f/2.8 OS to have a better walkaround lens because the kit lens sucks or I will save some money and get a Canon 70-200mm f/4L.
I don't know if the Sigma is actually worth it compared to the Canon L.
Just wanted to say thank you for sharing this video, I learned a TON from watching it! You answered many of my questions about primes vs zooms. Kudos for your digital photography book, too. I've learned a ton from it, as well.
Thanks, Steve! Glad I could help.
great video on making portraits -
suggestion: ditch the Beemer and get a minivan to carry all your equipment
i have the canon 1.8 and i love it but would like a better lens so idk if i want the canon 1.4 or the sigma I'm 15 and im getting pretty serious about photography people keep coming to me for pics i just wish i could give them better quality which lens do you think i should purchase
I know you can't try every lens in one test, but I've always read that the older Sigma 50 1.4 ($500) is a better choice over the Canon 50 1.4...thoughts? I have a 24-105 and the 50 1.8 and I'm looking to get something better (leaning towards the Tamron 24-70 f2.8 VC) so this was very interesting for me. I'm also renting the new Sigma 50 1.4 Art this weekend. Great review, keep up the nice work!
I see chelsey focusing and recomposing, doesn't that change the plane of focus? Or did I see it wrong?
thank you guys for the review, I work a lot with High school seniors and I do a lot of sports, I have a 24-70 -70 - 200 85 1.8 17-35
I have been using the 85 for basketball games but I am really thinking of going to the 50 1.4 for in close stuff.
I will let you know how that turns out
with a extra $600+ I rather buy a canon 50mm 1.4 and take it on vacation instead of sitting at home taking pics of things in my house w/ the sigma -_- lol. ..
WylunCustoms agree! 😁
Interesting...just curious, you guys typically use the 50>85 for your portraits?
Best Videos I have found - TY Tony Northrup!!
Tony & Chelsea, I'm a big fan of you from Asia. This is educated and this video makes me feel like being in a oversea trip with you for one day :D
Hi, i am a penal lawyer with more than 15 years of litigation experience and Aldo a photography aficionado who just finished a forensic photography course, i have a Canon 550D and i'm trying to decide
Thank you for this effort to make this video material seen by more than once.
Congratulations for the video. Your work really rocks!
The model have a wonderful face, and the pictures reveal a special kind of the purity that exist in the Model!
Congratulations! And God Bless you All !!
Thanks!!
My apologies that this is not in regards to this video itself, but... Tony, any possibility of a review of the Sigma 120-300mm 2.8 OS (Sport) lens? If not owned, think Sigma might lend one to you?
Hey Tony. I was wondering what extender/monopod was being used with the Lumix video camera. It seemed to work pretty well. Thanks for the answer and the great videos!
Just got a used Canon 50mm f/1.4, based primarily on this review here. I need it for night photography, and I'm going to test it tomorrow evening! I can't wait! :-)
What about the Canon 50 1.2? How does it stack up to the Art lens?
Great teaching video for me. My question goes back to my experience, 1983, Canon A-1 package, no auto-focus, choice was 50mm at f1.2, f1.4, or f1.8. Knowing the limitations of me old school techniques/knowledge, with T5i, which 50mm would you recommend?
+Rojo Kelly Start with the 50 f1.8 (sdp.io/c50).
thank you.
around 13:10 the problem with these shots is that either you can expose the subject or the background, how can you find a way to get best exposure for both???
Rizwan Ul Haq By adding fill light (via reflectors or flash) one could help balance the light ratio between the subject and the background.
Apologies if the answer is already somewhere way down in the comments, but what settings did you use for the flash, as well the camera when it came time to use said flash? Was it all based on a meter reading, or just what you knew would work? It looked really nice!
nasw Generally we use automatic settings with exposure compensation and flash exposure compensation. More information in Stunning Digital Photography (links in the description).
Tony are you going to review the 50mm lens from Nikon too?
It's not something we have lined up now, but it's a possibility!
I got the 1.8, and i dont like it. But as a rookie, it's pushes me to fight for great sharpness, and move around so i really experience the angles. I gonna need the 1.4 at some time tho. not the sigma. but gonna buy the 35mm art soon. Thanks for sharing the video.
looks great! Nice review. If I were you, I'd have her in the center of the ark in the beginning of the shoot and shoot at around 100mm to get part of the entire arc and her in the center. her blond long hair and the combo with the grey arc and green BG would be a great model shot. rest the face and have the hand holding the end of the hair or something like that. I'm not a model photographer, I'm a DP but having her in the center and completely separated from everything seems like a good 1 shot to me. all the angles are ehh. Just think about the area and make that one shot count.
try carl zeiss 24-70 on sony guys, just found it so damn sharp with a great bokeh/blury background.
Tony have you tried the Canon EF 100mm f/2.8L Micro lens super fast and very sharp.
Point 1: most lenses, zoom and fixed, are just not tack sharp when wide open.
Point 2: every lens needs to be calibrated to the body, assuming you have a high-end camera that allows for that feature. This is critical to getting the best results from your lens at any f-stop.
"every lens needs to be calibrated to the body"
Citation needed.
Here's one product (which I have not used) that explains the benefits of calibration
photographylife.com/how-to-calibrate-lenses
Rob Tannenbaum
By citation I meant something that in a scientific way demonstrates a universal need for calibration. That article was mostly a how-to guide. I agree with the article that if you find your lens getting the nose in focus when you aim for the eye, then calibration is needed. I can also agree that there are tiny manufacturing imperfections when making the lenses. However, are these anomalies significant? Are they larger than the variation of error you get from simply moving slightly between the focus lock and taking the picture? Are they even noticeable under blinded conditions?
If the manufacturing imperfections weren't significant, Canon wouldn't have openly admitted to them by allowing users to make calibration corrections. As a pro photographer, I want to exhaust every option I have available to me to ensure the images I deliver to my clients are as sharp as possible. If the image are not sharp, I want it to be user error, not a manufacturing flaw..
Rob Tannenbaum
None of my questions were answered.
In the future are you going to do reviews on straps?
youve said you dont like using full body lenses on crop sensors. Is there a aps C lens you recommend for portraits?
Very impressive 4K video Tony, does the Panasonic GH4 suffer from the 30 mins continous recording restriction as the Canons? If not how does it get round it as I thought that it was because of some Eurpoean trade directive.
Thanks, Paul! The US-spec GH2s, GH3s, and GH4s have no recording limit, which makes them quite unique. The European-spec models do have the recording limit, but it's fairly easily bypassed on the GH2s and GH3s (I don't know about the GH4s).
Tony Northrup
Thanks Tony, so do US Canon DSLR's have this problem as I thought I have heard that Magic Lantern gets round it? Perhaps I should buy a GH4 from the US and not here in the UK !
Magic Lantern automatically restarts recording, but it skips a few frames. Better than nothing, but not good enough for what we do.
Which smart phone do you like to recommend people's for taking best pictures and videos ? i do not like to carry heavy Dslr camera's with me that's why .currently i have got iphone 6 + Note 4 samsung
Are you sure the movie will be in 4k? To me it seems less than a full HD, you just made an upscale from HD to 4k. ;)
Posting here since I value Tony's tests and expertise, so I apologize if this is in the wrong section. I bought both the 50mm and 35mm Sigma Art Lenses over the recent winter based on all the hype and to save a few bucks over the Canon 50mm 1.2 and 35mm 1.4 ii that my wife/primary shooter uses. (we have many conflicting gigs and fight over lenses). I really want to figure these things out, got the docking station, even returned the 50mm Art for another copy, but continue to prefer the Canon Lenses. My issues are mainly at 1.4-2.0 Apertures in low light/indoor from focusing to sharpness, especially when needing to crop and bring back brightness in post. Anyone have suggestions, input or some specific tests to run. I've been through the trouble shooting procedures and calibration tests from SDP and Grangers videos after using Sigma's resources. Surely I'm doing something wrong? Most shots were on my 5DSR.
I know that it's completely off-topic, but I just hate the shutter shound of my 5D3... The 60D I've got just sounds so much better!
***** Thought nothing beats the 1DX. I've tried it at a photo show and I was pretty much mentally masturbating on the spot... :D
Like the ambient music while Chelsea's taking the pictures, what song is it?
Great video! I of course have the nifty-fifty, but also bought the Sigma 18-35 1.8 after realising how great my shots would look with a high quality lens. I can´t tell you how much you comments meant as to the out of focus shots, not getting both eyes sharp etc. with the shallow focal plane these apertures make. I thought I sucked, but lately realised that my sigma back focuses and my 60D can´t microadjust (useful feature it turns out). I´ve wound up doing f2.8 mostly as that still blurs the background yet is easier to work with.
Just a small question, do you calibrate the gear before testing?
I believe immediate that the Sigma can be sharper, but could the difference be smaller if your camera would be calibrated and that you have settings especially for each type of lens?
Marco de Boer No, we don't calibrate, nor do I see the need to. If something was mis-focusing, I would recognize it.
This isn't really for the video,but still you gotta do some color grading......
Even more so that it's uploaded in 4K.
Photographer Chelsea should be the model.
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vominator I don't wanna be a part of the argument but.... LOL!!!!!
Hi tony I want to ask the sigma art series 50mm f/1.4 or the canon 50mm L lens f/1.2 is a better lens to buy. In terms of overall performance sharpness since it's a considerably a big price difference. I'm using a full frame camera.
Aaron Alifen Yes, even the Canon 50mm f/1.4 is sharper than the f/1.2... The Sigma is definitely the best of the lot.
How about the Canon 50mm f1.2 vs the sigma f1.4?
Which best for sigma or canon
BRB. Just bought a random glass lens from the dollar store. Gonna tape it on my Sony and compare results to a Zeiss. Keep checking for the 20 minute video explaining which is better and why!!!!
I noticed that Chelsea was holding the zoom h1 stereo mic, what are your thoughts on it? Is it a mic you could use for most of your work, or do you prefer another?
Thanks for the quick reply!
Waiting on the comparisons vs a cheap Sony and Nikon 50mm