Agreed--especially all that boring rock climbing stuff. I didn't click on a rock climbing video, I clicked on an archaeology video. What a waste of time; I skipped over most of that.
you do realize the reason why they're showing the climbing is to point out the sheer inanity of the location and who in their mad mind would consider living there.
@@IkedaSerra At 15:49, you can see on the watch that the day they started the exploration was October 8 and was a Wednesday. The latest year this occurred was in 2014. I’m going to assume that this was done on that year.
Here in Norway, you can still see and find houses, farms/homestead at remote places one would never build at today. Especially up hill, and near cliffs, like in fjords and valleys. Also I’m pretty sure the climate as well as the area was and looked very different than what it is today.
I am planning on going to Norway so I can go on a cliff where Ragnar sat it’s one of the cliffs with the water so you could see them coming home with there ships lol. I’m definitely excited to explore there grave sites and rocks and stuff.
🤣🤣🤣No, that's not how this land has moved, looking at the images you can very clearly understand the types of erosion and what the land is doing here. That's fine wouldn't have developed from it Sliding Away 😉🤔
3 days of excavation might work for Time team who have a massive amount of people but here we had 4 people digging... Not to mention that they did this in late autumn, camped on the mainland so they had to waste hours getting on and off and they didn't use a metal detector to find possible artifacts. If this indeed is vikings, they left very few things behind. Just look at L'Anse aux Meadows where they only left a handful of artifacts. And I see no evidence for the monastery theory at all, it would have made sense if it was Pictish but for the vikings it seems likelier that it was picked for how easy it was to defend from attackers. We Scandinavians dig between April and September for a good reason. I have the feeling these people picked it because it was more "extreme". Doing it during summer and actually put the tents on the Kame itself would mean you could dig for results quickly. Ground penetrating radar is a great tool but if your main goal is to find a dateable artifact a metal detector is better. A lost coin is a likely find but most metal artifacts would probably help.
When I seen it, I immediately told to myself "oh, it's a viking settlement!" (similar to what found in Groenland). Up north in Scotland, a soil too poor to grow anything, no trees...only vikings was crazy enough to live in such remote place, depending only on the sea and imported goods. The lowest point of the kame is too exposed to the elements (big waves and wind) to allow boat landings (without crushing them on the rocks, personally I woundn't dare), they most likely used the protected perfect sandy beach its side... a pathway to there most likely been eroded over time. That place seems a very good place to stop, not to live there, but right between Iceland and Scandinavia.
there was most likely a forge... if being you, I'd look for it first (coal, slag, tools, ore etc) with a metal detector. Could have been more fruitful than doing trenches.
@@La.máquina.de.los.sueños Most sensible answer yet! Of course that is what they were doing! They maybe had few people,, even wives and kids there all the time, but mostly they would use the sea. Even if that causeway was better, what was on the mainland? They didn't even try to find out! To me it is a staging post. A few hardy souls there all the time, with a few livestock, and what they get from the sea and can grow. If it grows. The crews come and go and they bring supplies.. They have a little R and R and move on. Conditions that would horrify us were normal for them
@@hogwashmcturnip8930 what's intriguing me is that vikings wasn't used (as far as I remember) to build such big outpost/staging post/village (23 buildings + most likely more on the mainland, + few others who fell in the sea... so probably 100+ persons) in such wastelands (even if more tempered 1000 years ago, its soil is thin and the place always been exposed to the harsh climate of the North Sea). Such important place MUST figure somewhere in the Norse sagas. In comparison, the "Anse aux meadows" in Newfoundland only represent about 8 buildings (could host 30 to 160 persons) and is at the source of the Vinland legends.
@@La.máquina.de.los.sueños That is intriguing ,thank you. I had wondered myself. So what were they doing there and what has happened since? Have you found anything in the Sagas? I will admit I am useless, being more Celtic inspired Take me past Beowulf and Norse 'mythology' and I am lost .So where do we start looking?
It's better not to, unless absolutely required. Everyone would have to inventory every single item brought with them to avoid leaving anything that would contaminate the site. Just imagine the confusion if they excavated a modern bottle cap.
@@hogwashmcturnip8930 I never said I was a great archaeologist, I said that I've found myself in the middle of more than one uncharted Mayan ruin. The thing is that you'll never know the truth of my statements without either learning to speak Tzutujil or going to Guatemala yourself. Someone like you is more likely to continue living the life of a dullard though. Never doing anything noteworthy, and trying to convince yourself that nobody else has either.
@@kaisersose5549 I'm going to actually call BS on you or just expose the fact that you're a total douchebag because I personally have had an amazing and very adventurous career and never do I speak about it in such a way that you just did and as someone who's been obsessed with archaeology since I was five and reading as an advanced level at that age I can tell you that you're probably not an archaeologist nor have you ever worked out of a helicopter if you think carting shit back and forth on that knife edge is easier than loading up a helicopter properly.. because I'm not full of shit you can easily go to my page and see some of the videos I've made public of me flying around doing geophysical surveys in the Arctic with a magnetometer
Idiotic History: ...we've arrived in October not the best time for archaeology. Me: Of course you did. Idiotic History: We got nothing accomplished. Me: You never do. 🙄
Heavens, for supposedly smart people, this seems unnecessarily hazardous. Some simple planning, choosing the right time of year and perhaps the addition of a helicopter would have made sense, not to mention the addition of many hours of additional archeological endeavor, made available by those things.
There's never a guaranteed good time, the coastal winds can be awful at any time. And a helicopter is bloody expensive and would struggle to land in the wind anyway
??? Those smooth undulating grasslands look very hard and solid to me,, The Faults you're seeing are ancient and not active that being said the faults themselves are weak points so you will see one piece of land that looks flat with another piece of land next to it that looks vertical or on a 45-degree, but there hasn't been any geological forces moving these rocks for approximately 60 million years. Just see levels going up and down ice grinding them down, and the weak points disappearing before the solid ones so the fault between vertical and another more Dynamic piece of land will disappear before either of the lands giving the appearance that one has slipped away and falling, but if you were to stand at that point and watch time flow backwards all you would see is gravity and a few different kinds of water doing a whole bunch of different things that angle piece has been an angle since just after the time of the dinosaurs 😉
I've watched a few episodes now. 1. They always arrive in October or when it's cold. 2. We get to watch them dig and speculate. 3. They never find anything. 4. They leave. Was this show popular in the UK or has it ended up on TH-cam for a reason?
Yeah. Their planning seems to go "Let's pick the absolutely worst time of the year - and make sure we don't have enough time to accomplish a damn thing."
Disagree, they collected data that is still being analyzed. You make good points and I am disappointed too. Maybe it will yield little but it will add to our knowledge. As they said, if you need instant gratification maybe archaeology isn't for you.
It seems incredibly STUPID for these people to have attempted this in October under these weather conditions. Who can afford to throw away so much money on a dubious project?
ThIs is the 2nd of these I have seen, and they have both been totally pointless. They need to make their mind up whether they are an extreme adventures programme or serious archaeology. By the time they have finished faffing about they have no time or equipment.to get any decent investigation done.
@@kaisersose5549 Not watched much archaeology then? This whole series is viewer bait. Archaeological Charlies Angels! Whilst Charlie sits in safety moaning he hasn't been allowed to join in. If they Really wanted to investigate that site they would have done it when the weather was right and got a helicopter to airlift them and the tools in. Job Done They could have still played dramatics ,being lowered down.
@@hogwashmcturnip8930 They were the first to explore that site in how many years? Has a full excavation been done yet? Was anyone done anything to bring attention to that particular archaeological site before them? Sexist garbage aside, It's not what they didn't manage to accomplish, it's your expectation of what you thought they should have done. You asked me, "Not watched much archaeology then?", indicating that this isn't something you do. I, on the other hand, have found myself right in the middle of uncharted Mayan ruins on more than one occasion. What I'm saying is that you're spouting nonsense because you don't have the faintest idea what they're actually doing. If you want to be taken seriously, go get some hours on site with a trowel in your hand rather than being an armchair official.
@@hogwashmcturnip8930 The last thing I am is a feminist, but I'll give credit where it's due. Why don't you take a little trip down to Guatemala? Go to a lake called Atitlan in the district of Solala, then find an aldea called Chacaya. Outside of that village, toward San Pedro volcano, you will find a large field of chayote growing. Go up the side of the volcano there, and take the path that circles back above the village. You'll see it if you've got a keen eye. Another easy to access site can be found in Rio Dulce. Ask the locals where the island with the hot springs are, and walk into the bush on the north side of the river from that island. As soon as the ground is dry, you're there. How does that sound to you? I don't think you've caught on to the fact that I'm a yank, so it's not as though I need to book a flight to get there. It's less distance to drive than traveling across half of the U.S. Limey jackass.
Not only was it wider, it was also higher the further you go out towards the water. Erosion from the waves has caused the entire area to collapse as the earth has eroded away into the water. It could have been as much higher as the camping area. Nice and level.
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44:50... "The team is disappointed"... so am I for wasting my time with this stupid program.
It almost seemed a waste of time. Proper planning would've had all supplies and equipment on site before the archaeologists, who should've stayed on site. Micro archeology isn't the proper approach for a site like this. They got no answers to any questions. Too bad.
Totally with you. But apparenttly I am sexist for suggesting this had little t do with archaeology and everything to o with other stuff! Funny how that makes Me sexist! Anyway, there is no reason why this dig could not have been done in clement weather, with equipment and archaeologists flown in by helicopter. As for the site itself, is it not possible that it was a Viking service station? They are rowing about raiding stuff, they need a pit stop! They bring the food in, the people, ,possibly wives and families, give them some R & R... They may not have needed a major link to land as long as there was a decent one from the sea. No one said what was on land, if anything. The whole thing is a mess. No research, no looking at the mainland to see what could have been there, just 3 academic bimbos and a Welsh bloke who won't risk his own neck until they have proved it is OK.
@@maxpoggerman7396 Hahaha. I get some stupid comments on You Tube, but that one is Pure Class! Especially coming from 'Pinky Pie' Lol. Here is a little bit of advice for you. Get some Life Experience and wisdom before making silly comments about fictitious names on a computer screen? So many twits who make assumptions. For All You know, I could be one of those Bimbos! yet you still feel the need to mouth off. Shows a singular lack of anything much.
Viking layover camp!!! You guys are forgetting all about isostatic rebound everything you're standing on was a lot closer to the water a few hundred years ago. This would have been a perfect little rest area on the edge of the British Isles anything they needed they would already have with them in the boat and the goats could graze on the island, you guys are looking at this with an endgame agenda and very modern Eyes. The extra few Huts that are down the slope are probably just up from the contemporary waterline Edit it literally took you the entire show to assess what I did with in 5 minutes of looking at this
@@frofrofrofro900 absolutely I get that, but to me, that's mostly ALL they concentrated on. WOuld have liked more actual archaeology, and less monkeying around and creating fake time limits. that's all.
A shame that archaeology had not been done far earlier when the kane was more intact than the current spine out to the rocky slope. How many more barrow houses could there be in total that spread back toward the mainland? Such would be the many island and mainland colonies by claims of the Earl of the Orkneys (and the Shetlands) related to the times just before Rollo moved down from Norway into Normandy (northern Neustria). And the Earl of More and Romsdal of Western Norway (Vestlandet) controlled these Earldom island extensions into the northern Scottish lands, until the final expulsion of the Dano-Norse at the time of King James IV. These colonies could have continued existence anywhere from 750 - 1500s CE.
It could have been a flat area before mass is a earthquake, shook the ground and shifted the plates underneath making a flat area now sloping. I think this is the most logical explanation to your question.
The fact that none of these supposed scientists seem to understand that the Kame was not originally that isolated, but made so by the process of the surf eroding the surrounding cliffs really brings the credibility of this entire thing into serious question.
I actually do enjoy your shows, and even getting the carbon dating for this site, alongside the terrain survey is a huge achievement for such a short period of time. People that will come in the future will find this useful.
I'd say this was a Viking settlement. More than likely not as treacherous to get there 1.2k years ago. Little annoying they couldn't do an actual dig... saving this as a monument for what? Aerial pictures? Doubt any tourists make their way there. Might bring more people if they knew what kind of settlement it was.
It seems like a helicopter drop on a less inclimate weather day would have been less treacherous. This is an amazing feat by brilliant people with nerves of steel!
Maybe they should add a meteorologist to guide a more habitual time to dig. I vote for Viking settlement from their exploration of more farming land before discovering/intruding Wales, Ireland, Scotland.
To me this site looks like a Norse base camp from back in the day they where hunting the walrus to extinction in this area (before moving on to Iceland) for it's ivory tusks, lamp oil rendered from blubber, skins to cover their boat frames and lots of meat to eat (maybe they even smoked the meat or dried it. The boat shaped foundation is common in Canada where they would turn their boats upside down for a roof on winter shelters. Probably their first shelter before they built the other shelters and work buildings. Only question is was there enough fuel (wood) in the area for their fires to carry out this activity.
Come ON! What is with this "Team"? Especially the dude in the black coat at the 20 minute mark....that guy belongs in ground level flat in the middle of the city, selling insurance. This whole thing is literally incredible. For one thing, they think monks lived there as it stands now, in which case, spending ONE night there, voluntarily, in a tent, with a thousand bucks worth of gear on, in October, should not constitute life being unfair. It should signify utter lack of planning and wussbagedness. Secondly, that they think monks lived there, as it stands, is absolute bollocks.
Also Is means Ice and bister means harsh or grumpy in norse. So "pointy icy harsh mountain ridge" does Kame of Isbister mean in aloose translation to Norse 😊
So many questions... Why wasn't the equipment sent over on or before the first day? Why not give them one more day? How much could that have cost? Would it have cost so much to have a helicopter drop the equipment off prior to the archeologists arriving? Why do this in October?
@@soxpeewee no. It is interesting. It is show. If they would find something interesting someone could continue. In Egypt archaeologists have limited time too. Permissions etc. Even if they found amazing discovery they have to stop block metal doors and pray no one will stol it. In the middle of nowhere they have to leave their discovery. Last week I watch sth like that in documentary. And if was quite big and they have to leave it. Maybe on Netflix it was but doccumentry not film
I feel that from how the structures are laid out along with the large boat shaped structure out front that this is a Nordic burial site/cemetery. The charcoal could likely be from cremations.
Even though they were disappointed that they didn't find any artifacts, often when you're the first group of people to tackle something extremely challenging, there's so many logistical considerations, that you don't always get what you wanted to. Simply getting out to the site, getting the equipment, and getting back safely took a great deal of time. But the next group of people that go out, will use the knowledge from this group to do it more efficiently. And with the next group going out maybe they'll be allowed to dig more now that they know what kind of site it is.
How magnificent that these four women are first to research the site of the Kame of Isbister, persevering even though their support team was sluggish, belittling, and sloppy with safety procedures. But to the ladies, congratulations!
@@tardigrade9493 Of course it isn't! But that hardly answers my query. (And I also wonder whether the archaeologists would agree with your assessment. But that's another story and is irrelevant to my questioning your choice of words.)
Probably a clear visual stop for norse heading towards england. The beach below. A small town on top thats easy to defend. Back then with a wider pathway and land.
90% of getting to somewhere, and complaining how dodgy it was to get there, 10% actually doing what they set out to do, this team screams poor management, unrealistic goals, poor logistic planning and a very poor leadership.
I do have to say, this is one hell of a site to try to access.. it is a very worthwhile sight to excavate, though. It is very sad though, that information pertaining to a lot of us is being lost through erosion, and no archaeological work has been done.. I'm glad to see some as being done with this group..
We're talking about the Viking period. 1000 years ago. They are talking like that rock is a static feature. Unchanging. I think it was more accessible during the time it was settled, and after a few storms eroded some of the accessibility, it was abandoned. I mean, look at how the landscape changed in a matter of days following the Mt. St. Helens eruption in the US in 1980. Natural landscape features may be long lasting, but they are never permanent. This rock is being constantly bombarded by the winds and surf of the North Sea smashing against it. It would be almost impossible to tell what it looked like 1000 years ago. And most of us know that when you get water down in rock crevasses, it can freeze. And when it freezes, it expands and can fracture the rock. That's somewhat the basis on how potholes form in city streets, especially in the more northern latitudes. So, I believe there was a lot more area to access that spot with back when it was active. Simple logic demonstrated here is that if these people are having this much difficulty accessing the site with modern climbing gear, then had it been exactly the same during its settled period, they would have had a lot more difficulty trying to free climb. So, no. I do not believe the rock as we see it now is as it was when people lived there.
OH MY, these people are MAD. All for archeology, No way would I do this job, even though I wanted to be an archeologist, a person afraid of heights and enclosed spaces. They are very brave, and what they have discovered is facinating. I stuck to art and ceramics
After five or ten minutes watching this video, i can tell you, with 94.6% security, that there have been humans living on that point for at least 5000 years...
i would speculate this was a viking camp for holding captive slaves temporarily till enough were rounded for transportation to viking settlements,the slave trade was certainly thriving at that time and the location would have made it easy to control the captives
Why on earth are they not there with one metal detector so they can quickly and efficiently retrieve just a small representative sampling of relics by most advantageously locating the best places for the trenches? This given that this could prove to be the last or the only chance that anyone will have to access this place, as having backing and the making of a significant effort would be necessary to carry it out again. And by then, more restrictions may exist. And why did they choose an obviously disadvantageous time to go?
If this place is going to disappear , due to erosion - it’s silly to do tiny test pits. .. when Mother Nature takes it, that I if is gone for ever and so are it’s secrets
If it was settled in 11C or earlier, especially when Scots invaded from Ireland, the weather might have been milder, the kame more accessible, and like mainland Scotland, more forested. The "leper colony" seems far-fetched, and we dont know that monasticism was common among the Picts. Right now, I'm pretty sire that it was a Tick-Tock amusement concession.
I think they should try Excavating on the man land above the rock face they are working on. It looks to me like that chunk of land came off of the Mainland after the homes were built. I would check the mainland where are the houses would have been before the rock slide
They're not even through the intro and I'm thinking people would settle their because it's easy to defend. It also may not have been quite so difficult to get across at one time. Compared to some places I've seen ancient houses and granaries in the Americas it doesn't seem to bad to me. I'd love to see a group like Time Team do this. By 16:40 I'm fed up with their speculation. 20min in I'm fed up with the filler of basically their personal diaries.
Modern archeology is wild. “We have to preserve a site but we have no idea what it is and can only disturb a small area because it’s important but we don’t know why.” Anyone with any sense would’ve dug until they could at least confirm exactly what it is, exactly why it’s there, and at least completely excavated the areas that are vulnerable to be swallowed by the sea to preserve any artifacts. There seems to be no awareness that the site could’ve been more accessible 1200 years ago and that erosion may have turned it into what it is.
That location is a defensive redoubt. The trail was wider then, supplies were stored in times of war . Peaple were evacuated there in troubled times . Very easy to defend. evacuated theres why the size of the why the size of buildings
Having only 3 days and those weather conditions, of what was found was exciting to say the least. Considering....... But that opened up for more in the future for that site. October wasn't the best time obviously, but they only allowed to do little digging spots which doesn't give you the information you are looking for. But with that, Bravo to those whom took that expedition.
"If you're into instant gratification, don't consider archaeology as a career." Exactly what I decided at about age 8! Far better to read the conclusions or view the dig from a comfy chair than dig through someone's ancient latrine, or fall off cliffs, or look for YEARS and find zip.
Why didn't they do this thing in like July and what's with digging up the pointy end of the boat-shaped structure. Wouldn't digging up its middle be more likely to find something?
@27:12 you can literally see where at one point the part they are excavating had been torn off from the mainland. The pathway was most likely bigger for them… it had to have been! Orrr they were there before the piece of land broke off. I’d do an excavation of the mainland as well!
I'm just going to make an analogous observation.. I'm not necessarily talking about this site in particular. During the War between the states here in the US, there was a young Union Major general, named George Armstrong Custer. He and several of the generals came to the bank of a river, and the other generals got into a discussion, speculating about how deep it was. They continued for a bit, and finally Custer got a little bit aggravated, entrada is horse out into the middle of the stream. Speaking to the ranking general, he said General Sir, this is how deep it is.. This is a lot like all the archaeological, and historical speculation that goes on, rather than digging and gathering hard evidence..
First, this might be my fault. I watched this documentary with only one eye. I was surprised how little success they had. Did they have restrictions on days to dig? Why? By the government? If the place is really empty, I guess they did a great job. Quick, little disturbing of the area and they found out who had been there. But my gut tells me that this place has a lot more to tell us. If that is the case I just did not get why they could not find the answers. They might have explained it, but I didn't notice it.
This show is so irritating. There is plenty of intrigue in the subject matter. They don't need to manufacture it with terrible planning and mishaps with logistics. People watching a show like this aren't going to watch for the rock climbing. They want to see the archeology. I have tried to watch this episode three times. Each time, I get irritated and quit. I guess I'll go find an episode of Time Team I haven't seen in a while...
a so so beach on one side and a big beach on the other and you think they'd use that crevice with a large swell to keep the boats. be practical. it's a climb but the beach has the rocks also. we needed to pull the boats ashore to clean the worms from the hulls. blue tooth sent ships out to find the settlements and kill us. we had to move. have fun.
For all the people screaming "they could have landed everything in a helicopter!" No they couldn't have. The helicopter would have had to land RIGHT on the archaeological evidence (the marks of the buildings.) This means that anything fragile and close to the surface could have been BROKEN by the weight of the machine. Helicopters (according to google) are 600+lbs. I would wager that the size needed to get the team AND all the gear up there would weigh several tons. Especially loaded with the team and all the gear. Plus with the obvious evidence of erosion...the weight of the helicopter could cause a chunk of the land to just drop off with archaeological evidence STRAIGHT into the sea. They chose the best way to get to the site that would have the least amount of damage to it. Also for those saying they could have picked a better time/date. You don't know how hard it was to get permission to dig the site. For all you know they were told "you have ONLY this time to do it in and none other." Also its the UK its usually rainy and windy there from my understanding lol.
Is there a chance that this remote settlement could have been a refuge for times of attack by a hostile clan? The difficult access would be easy to defend
I hope that someone takes up this challenge again, soon. Also, if they were pitching detritus into the sea, what about searching there? Probably dicey, but this is extreme archeology, and they could possibly use remote devices, as well. I understand a bit of what the team must feel, so close, but so far from knowing for sure. The question will forever be in the back of my mind. 💚🌎😎🍀
October anywhere near the sea is a bad idea. Why wasn't a helicopter employed? they should have biovac'd there to save the crawl back and forth but that's my two cents worth. Too bad they couldn't find anything. They say it's a protected area, for what? to be photographed from the air? it will never become an attraction but just a curiosity. The Kame was probably far bigger back then.
I wish the excavation wasn't interrupted all the time with pointless babbling.
Agreed--especially all that boring rock climbing stuff. I didn't click on a rock climbing video, I clicked on an archaeology video. What a waste of time; I skipped over most of that.
@@lspthrattan Yeah. I only watched about 1/2 of it.
you do realize the reason why they're showing the climbing is to point out the sheer inanity of the location and who in their mad mind would consider living there.
@@sunny-sq6ci Yes and they lived there without rockclimbing.
First question: If October is a bad time of year, why not go when it's better weather conditions?
Covid restrictions, most likely
@@IkedaSerra This was filmed a long time ago.
@@IkedaSerra At 15:49, you can see on the watch that the day they started the exploration was October 8 and was a Wednesday. The latest year this occurred was in 2014. I’m going to assume that this was done on that year.
@@FrancisMayo I didn't see that. I had to stop watching a few minutes in.
@@FrancisMayo I Googled Kame of Isbister and it mentions this excavation took place in 2003.
I feel like this is a good team and someone in a leadership or TV executive position has absolutely screwed them over.
I agree…too much climbing and speculating and not enough archeology. Has good vibes though
Geez. Great team. Just wish less climbing.
This could have been really interesting. Terrible planning.
Here in Norway, you can still see and find houses, farms/homestead at remote places one would never build at today. Especially up hill, and near cliffs, like in fjords and valleys. Also I’m pretty sure the climate as well as the area was and looked very different than what it is today.
I am planning on going to Norway so I can go on a cliff where Ragnar sat it’s one of the cliffs with the water so you could see them coming home with there ships lol. I’m definitely excited to explore there grave sites and rocks and stuff.
I learned more about bad rock climbing than archaeology.
Their first ground anchor, with the rope tied directly in!!!! Legend
Yes but we also learned that women can do things too.
I know, right, talk about making an unnecessary meal of it.
This Peninsula has slid off the coast.
🤣🤣🤣No, that's not how this land has moved, looking at the images you can very clearly understand the types of erosion and what the land is doing here. That's fine wouldn't have developed from it Sliding Away 😉🤔
@@moocyfarus8549 Well, start taking. Tell us how the Kame of Isbister moves.
3 days of excavation might work for Time team who have a massive amount of people but here we had 4 people digging...
Not to mention that they did this in late autumn, camped on the mainland so they had to waste hours getting on and off and they didn't use a metal detector to find possible artifacts. If this indeed is vikings, they left very few things behind. Just look at L'Anse aux Meadows where they only left a handful of artifacts.
And I see no evidence for the monastery theory at all, it would have made sense if it was Pictish but for the vikings it seems likelier that it was picked for how easy it was to defend from attackers.
We Scandinavians dig between April and September for a good reason. I have the feeling these people picked it because it was more "extreme". Doing it during summer and actually put the tents on the Kame itself would mean you could dig for results quickly. Ground penetrating radar is a great tool but if your main goal is to find a dateable artifact a metal detector is better. A lost coin is a likely find but most metal artifacts would probably help.
There's a brand new Time Team episode out.
@@jammyscouser2583 Really? Guess what I am checking out directly after this post. :D
When I seen it, I immediately told to myself "oh, it's a viking settlement!" (similar to what found in Groenland). Up north in Scotland, a soil too poor to grow anything, no trees...only vikings was crazy enough to live in such remote place, depending only on the sea and imported goods. The lowest point of the kame is too exposed to the elements (big waves and wind) to allow boat landings (without crushing them on the rocks, personally I woundn't dare), they most likely used the protected perfect sandy beach its side... a pathway to there most likely been eroded over time. That place seems a very good place to stop, not to live there, but right between Iceland and Scandinavia.
there was most likely a forge... if being you, I'd look for it first (coal, slag, tools, ore etc) with a metal detector. Could have been more fruitful than doing trenches.
@@La.máquina.de.los.sueños Most sensible answer yet! Of course that is what they were doing! They maybe had few people,, even wives and kids there all the time, but mostly they would use the sea. Even if that causeway was better, what was on the mainland? They didn't even try to find out! To me it is a staging post. A few hardy souls there all the time, with a few livestock, and what they get from the sea and can grow. If it grows. The crews come and go and they bring supplies.. They have a little R and R and move on. Conditions that would horrify us were normal for them
@@hogwashmcturnip8930 what's intriguing me is that vikings wasn't used (as far as I remember) to build such big outpost/staging post/village (23 buildings + most likely more on the mainland, + few others who fell in the sea... so probably 100+ persons) in such wastelands (even if more tempered 1000 years ago, its soil is thin and the place always been exposed to the harsh climate of the North Sea). Such important place MUST figure somewhere in the Norse sagas.
In comparison, the "Anse aux meadows" in Newfoundland only represent about 8 buildings (could host 30 to 160 persons) and is at the source of the Vinland legends.
@@La.máquina.de.los.sueños That is intriguing ,thank you.
I had wondered myself. So what were they doing there and what has happened since? Have you found anything in the Sagas? I will admit I am useless, being more Celtic inspired Take me past Beowulf and Norse 'mythology' and I am lost .So where do we start looking?
@@hogwashmcturnip8930 I have ain't no clue. Sadly, like the Celts, the Norse was relying more on oral tales than writings.
Would have been great to camp right on the Kame and save all the back and forth. Bring everything in on one helicopter trip.
Exactly, but then the spectacle of fair maidens slipping would be lost.
It's better not to, unless absolutely required.
Everyone would have to inventory every single item brought with them to avoid leaving anything that would contaminate the site.
Just imagine the confusion if they excavated a modern bottle cap.
@@kaisersose5549 Confusion? So you great archaeologists can't tall a Roman coin from a bottle cap? You get sillier and less believable by the comment.
@@hogwashmcturnip8930
I never said I was a great archaeologist, I said that I've found myself in the middle of more than one uncharted Mayan ruin.
The thing is that you'll never know the truth of my statements without either learning to speak Tzutujil or going to Guatemala yourself.
Someone like you is more likely to continue living the life of a dullard though.
Never doing anything noteworthy, and trying to convince yourself that nobody else has either.
@@kaisersose5549 I'm going to actually call BS on you or just expose the fact that you're a total douchebag because I personally have had an amazing and very adventurous career and never do I speak about it in such a way that you just did and as someone who's been obsessed with archaeology since I was five and reading as an advanced level at that age I can tell you that you're probably not an archaeologist nor have you ever worked out of a helicopter if you think carting shit back and forth on that knife edge is easier than loading up a helicopter properly.. because I'm not full of shit you can easily go to my page and see some of the videos I've made public of me flying around doing geophysical surveys in the Arctic with a magnetometer
Idiotic History: ...we've arrived in October not the best time for archaeology.
Me: Of course you did.
Idiotic History: We got nothing accomplished.
Me: You never do. 🙄
Why be negative?
@@mikedice60 It's an astute observation, not an opinion.
@@nunya___ but dr roberts makes it all worthwhile. i would watch a fish rot, if she was holding it
@@hamishjames908 I'm sure they'll work something like that into next season but of course, they'll fk that up too.
@@nunya___ an erudite observation, you have been doing this awhile, lol
Heavens, for supposedly smart people, this seems unnecessarily hazardous. Some simple planning, choosing the right time of year and perhaps the addition of a helicopter would have made sense, not to mention the addition of many hours of additional archeological endeavor, made available by those things.
There's never a guaranteed good time, the coastal winds can be awful at any time. And a helicopter is bloody expensive and would struggle to land in the wind anyway
That’s a site I’ve seen before. Glad someone is checking it out. Looks like it was part of the main land mass and then fell over time an erosion.
??? Those smooth undulating grasslands look very hard and solid to me,, The Faults you're seeing are ancient and not active that being said the faults themselves are weak points so you will see one piece of land that looks flat with another piece of land next to it that looks vertical or on a 45-degree, but there hasn't been any geological forces moving these rocks for approximately 60 million years. Just see levels going up and down ice grinding them down, and the weak points disappearing before the solid ones so the fault between vertical and another more Dynamic piece of land will disappear before either of the lands giving the appearance that one has slipped away and falling, but if you were to stand at that point and watch time flow backwards all you would see is gravity and a few different kinds of water doing a whole bunch of different things that angle piece has been an angle since just after the time of the dinosaurs 😉
@@moocyfarus8549Cool!!!! I was wondering about the age of the geology. Thanks :)
I've watched a few episodes now. 1. They always arrive in October or when it's cold. 2. We get to watch them dig and speculate. 3. They never find anything. 4. They leave. Was this show popular in the UK or has it ended up on TH-cam for a reason?
Yeah. Their planning seems to go "Let's pick the absolutely worst time of the year - and make sure we don't have enough time to accomplish a damn thing."
yes! as an archaeologist this looks to me very show minded and not following a truly "scientific" plan... enjoyable any way
No different than other shows that speculate about all sorts of things and come up with no answers or proof.
Disagree, they collected data that is still being analyzed. You make good points and I am disappointed too. Maybe it will yield little but it will add to our knowledge. As they said, if you need instant gratification maybe archaeology isn't for you.
It seems incredibly STUPID for these people to have attempted this in October under these weather conditions. Who can afford to throw away so much money on a dubious project?
I kept thinking this as well.
Yep, well said 😊
ThIs is the 2nd of these I have seen, and they have both been totally pointless. They need to make their mind up whether they are an extreme adventures programme or serious archaeology. By the time they have finished faffing about they have no time or equipment.to get any decent investigation done.
They're doing what they can in the time they've got to do it.
The only problem seems to be your expectations.
@@kaisersose5549 Not watched much archaeology then? This whole series is viewer bait.
Archaeological Charlies Angels! Whilst Charlie sits in safety moaning he hasn't been allowed to join in. If they Really wanted to investigate that site they would have done it when the weather was right and got a helicopter to airlift them and the tools in. Job Done They could have still played dramatics ,being lowered down.
@@hogwashmcturnip8930
They were the first to explore that site in how many years?
Has a full excavation been done yet?
Was anyone done anything to bring attention to that particular archaeological site before them?
Sexist garbage aside, It's not what they didn't manage to accomplish, it's your expectation of what you thought they should have done.
You asked me, "Not watched much archaeology then?", indicating that this isn't something you do.
I, on the other hand, have found myself right in the middle of uncharted Mayan ruins on more than one occasion.
What I'm saying is that you're spouting nonsense because you don't have the faintest idea what they're actually doing.
If you want to be taken seriously, go get some hours on site with a trowel in your hand rather than being an armchair official.
@@hogwashmcturnip8930
The last thing I am is a feminist, but I'll give credit where it's due.
Why don't you take a little trip down to Guatemala?
Go to a lake called Atitlan in the district of Solala, then find an aldea called Chacaya.
Outside of that village, toward San Pedro volcano, you will find a large field of chayote growing.
Go up the side of the volcano there, and take the path that circles back above the village. You'll see it if you've got a keen eye.
Another easy to access site can be found in Rio Dulce. Ask the locals where the island with the hot springs are, and walk into the bush on the north side of the river from that island. As soon as the ground is dry, you're there.
How does that sound to you?
I don't think you've caught on to the fact that I'm a yank, so it's not as though I need to book a flight to get there. It's less distance to drive than traveling across half of the U.S.
Limey jackass.
@@kaisersose5549 Did anyone call for the BS bus?Y our ride is here darlin! Happy travelling!
All who are watching and commenting in 2020 should keep in mind this is a 16 yr old series that only survived one season...
I can see why
Not only was it wider, it was also higher the further you go out towards the water. Erosion from the waves has caused the entire area to collapse as the earth has eroded away into the water. It could have been as much higher as the camping area. Nice and level.
44:50... "The team is disappointed"... so am I for wasting my time with this stupid program.
It’s not the greatest. Must be why it didn’t last long
I skip over the worthless crap and go for the archeology...if they ever get to it.
It almost seemed a waste of time. Proper planning would've had all supplies and equipment on site before the archaeologists, who should've stayed on site. Micro archeology isn't the proper approach for a site like this. They got no answers to any questions. Too bad.
Totally with you. But apparenttly I am sexist for suggesting this had little t do with archaeology and everything to o with other stuff! Funny how that makes Me sexist! Anyway, there is no reason why this dig could not have been done in clement weather, with equipment and archaeologists flown in by helicopter. As for the site itself, is it not possible that it was a Viking service station? They are rowing about raiding stuff, they need a pit stop! They bring the food in, the people, ,possibly wives and families, give them some R & R... They may not have needed a major link to land as long as there was a decent one from the sea. No one said what was on land, if anything. The whole thing is a mess. No research, no looking at the mainland to see what could have been there, just 3 academic bimbos and a Welsh bloke who won't risk his own neck until they have proved it is OK.
@@hogwashmcturnip8930 "i am not sexist" proceeds to refer to three women as bimbos.
@@maxpoggerman7396 Hahaha. I get some stupid comments on You Tube, but that one is Pure Class! Especially coming from 'Pinky Pie' Lol. Here is a little bit of advice for you. Get some Life Experience and wisdom before making silly comments about fictitious names on a computer screen? So many twits who make assumptions. For All You know, I could be one of those Bimbos! yet you still feel the need to mouth off. Shows a singular lack of anything much.
Viking layover camp!!! You guys are forgetting all about isostatic rebound everything you're standing on was a lot closer to the water a few hundred years ago. This would have been a perfect little rest area on the edge of the British Isles anything they needed they would already have with them in the boat and the goats could graze on the island, you guys are looking at this with an endgame agenda and very modern Eyes. The extra few Huts that are down the slope are probably just up from the contemporary waterline
Edit it literally took you the entire show to assess what I did with in 5 minutes of looking at this
Yet another comment that's more educational than the stupid video. Thank you!
I agree
I just scrolled down about to comment and found the very same thing ;-)
Not what I expected. Bring back time team. !!
this could have been shortened by 20 minutes without all the build up over the saftey of the climb. This is isnt a climbing documentary.
Indeed, and save another 20 minutes by cutting out team members complaining and winging. Was waiting for the archaeology and got reality tv instead.
@Itznun Yabizness That wind is too dangerous for a helicopter. Should've just gone at a better time of year.
I think it is interesting and show how sometimes is hard to do job
@@robynw6307 wind is always there . Temperature may be better
@@frofrofrofro900 absolutely I get that, but to me, that's mostly ALL they concentrated on. WOuld have liked more actual archaeology, and less monkeying around and creating fake time limits. that's all.
A shame that archaeology had not been done far earlier when the kane was more intact than the current spine out to the rocky slope. How many more barrow houses could there be in total that spread back toward the mainland? Such would be the many island and mainland colonies by claims of the Earl of the Orkneys (and the Shetlands) related to the times just before Rollo moved down from Norway into Normandy (northern Neustria). And the Earl of More and Romsdal of Western Norway (Vestlandet) controlled these Earldom island extensions into the northern Scottish lands, until the final expulsion of the Dano-Norse at the time of King James IV. These colonies could have continued existence anywhere from 750 - 1500s CE.
Your comment is legit more educational than the video. Thank you!
It could have been a flat area before mass is a earthquake, shook the ground and shifted the plates underneath making a flat area now sloping. I think this is the most logical explanation to your question.
The fact that none of these supposed scientists seem to understand that the Kame was not originally that isolated, but made so by the process of the surf eroding the surrounding cliffs really brings the credibility of this entire thing into serious question.
it is mentioned in the video, so apparently they knew.. ;-)
I actually do enjoy your shows, and even getting the carbon dating for this site, alongside the terrain survey is a huge achievement for such a short period of time. People that will come in the future will find this useful.
I'd say this was a Viking settlement. More than likely not as treacherous to get there 1.2k years ago. Little annoying they couldn't do an actual dig... saving this as a monument for what? Aerial pictures? Doubt any tourists make their way there. Might bring more people if they knew what kind of settlement it was.
It seems like a helicopter drop on a less inclimate weather day would have been less treacherous. This is an amazing feat by brilliant people with nerves of steel!
Maybe they should add a meteorologist to guide a more habitual time to dig. I vote for Viking settlement from their exploration of more farming land before discovering/intruding Wales, Ireland, Scotland.
To me this site looks like a Norse base camp from back in the day they where hunting the walrus to extinction in this area (before moving on to Iceland) for it's ivory tusks, lamp oil rendered from blubber, skins to cover their boat frames and lots of meat to eat (maybe they even smoked the meat or dried it.
The boat shaped foundation is common in Canada where they would turn their boats upside down for a roof on winter shelters. Probably their first shelter before they built the other shelters and work buildings.
Only question is was there enough fuel (wood) in the area for their fires to carry out this activity.
Shetlands==import all fuel, unless you use some of the whale oil.
They had coal and charcoal and peat back then
Time Team is needed for this...
Come ON! What is with this "Team"? Especially the dude in the black coat at the 20 minute mark....that guy belongs in ground level flat in the middle of the city, selling insurance. This whole thing is literally incredible. For one thing, they think monks lived there as it stands now, in which case, spending ONE night there, voluntarily, in a tent, with a thousand bucks worth of gear on, in October, should not constitute life being unfair. It should signify utter lack of planning and wussbagedness. Secondly, that they think monks lived there, as it stands, is absolute bollocks.
Personally I think it would be a great place to camp for a few nights
You can skip the first 45:10 minutes...unless you want bad instruction on, Trip planning, Rock Climbing, and Archaeology. In fact, just skip it all.
Also Is means Ice and bister means harsh or grumpy in norse.
So "pointy icy harsh mountain ridge" does Kame of Isbister mean in aloose translation to Norse 😊
So many questions... Why wasn't the equipment sent over on or before the first day? Why not give them one more day? How much could that have cost? Would it have cost so much to have a helicopter drop the equipment off prior to the archeologists arriving? Why do this in October?
More about their trek to the site than the site itself.
What a crock of a show.
Why do archeological digs have to have a time limit? I've seen this so many times.
Permissions?
@@frofrofrofro900. Possibly.
Tv time limit is for a new episode. This is incredibly lame "archeology"
@@soxpeewee no. It is interesting. It is show. If they would find something interesting someone could continue. In Egypt archaeologists have limited time too. Permissions etc. Even if they found amazing discovery they have to stop block metal doors and pray no one will stol it. In the middle of nowhere they have to leave their discovery. Last week I watch sth like that in documentary. And if was quite big and they have to leave it. Maybe on Netflix it was but doccumentry not film
@@soxpeewee no they will not make another episodes from that episodes. They don't split it on two.
I feel that from how the structures are laid out along with the large boat shaped structure out front that this is a Nordic burial site/cemetery. The charcoal could likely be from cremations.
Even though they were disappointed that they didn't find any artifacts, often when you're the first group of people to tackle something extremely challenging, there's so many logistical considerations, that you don't always get what you wanted to. Simply getting out to the site, getting the equipment, and getting back safely took a great deal of time. But the next group of people that go out, will use the knowledge from this group to do it more efficiently. And with the next group going out maybe they'll be allowed to dig more now that they know what kind of site it is.
How magnificent that these four women are first to research the site of the Kame of Isbister, persevering even though their support team was sluggish, belittling, and sloppy with safety procedures. But to the ladies, congratulations!
In what way belittling?
Oh, so sluggish and sloppy about safety at a very dangerous worksite is okay?
@@tardigrade9493 Of course it isn't! But that hardly answers my query. (And I also wonder whether the archaeologists would agree with your assessment. But that's another story and is irrelevant to my questioning your choice of words.)
Wonderful! 5.5 minutes in, I'm riveted! Thanks for upload 👍
Just as an aside, why wouldn't they climb up from a boat? Wouldn't that me more practical?
That would probably be a deadly landing, if there even was a beach. Especially in that weather, they'd be smashed on rocks before they even got there.
That was a nice peice of quartz with possible gold in it!I noticed the rock seems to have more of it.Perhaps it was an ancient mine site.
Anyone with a functioning brain wouldn't attempt a dig in such northern, windswept areas at any other time than summer.
Probably a clear visual stop for norse heading towards england. The beach below. A small town on top thats easy to defend.
Back then with a wider pathway and land.
Agreed… beach for their boats and onwards up!
It seems like their videos are 3/4's rock climbing and talking about how tough it is rock climbing. I'll take time team any day over this.
90% of getting to somewhere, and complaining how dodgy it was to get there, 10% actually doing what they set out to do, this team screams poor management, unrealistic goals, poor logistic planning and a very poor leadership.
That is just the editing…
Why, why, why...investigate in the middle of October??? I say...I say, I say, I say...something is not right here.
I do have to say, this is one hell of a site to try to access.. it is a very worthwhile sight to excavate, though. It is very sad though, that information pertaining to a lot of us is being lost through erosion, and no archaeological work has been done.. I'm glad to see some as being done with this group..
We're talking about the Viking period. 1000 years ago. They are talking like that rock is a static feature. Unchanging. I think it was more accessible during the time it was settled, and after a few storms eroded some of the accessibility, it was abandoned. I mean, look at how the landscape changed in a matter of days following the Mt. St. Helens eruption in the US in 1980. Natural landscape features may be long lasting, but they are never permanent. This rock is being constantly bombarded by the winds and surf of the North Sea smashing against it. It would be almost impossible to tell what it looked like 1000 years ago. And most of us know that when you get water down in rock crevasses, it can freeze. And when it freezes, it expands and can fracture the rock. That's somewhat the basis on how potholes form in city streets, especially in the more northern latitudes. So, I believe there was a lot more area to access that spot with back when it was active. Simple logic demonstrated here is that if these people are having this much difficulty accessing the site with modern climbing gear, then had it been exactly the same during its settled period, they would have had a lot more difficulty trying to free climb. So, no. I do not believe the rock as we see it now is as it was when people lived there.
Well, it’s their own fault for going in October. If it’s to increase the drama, that’s stupid. The drama is in what is found in the dig.
OH MY, these people are MAD. All for archeology, No way would I do this job, even though I wanted to be an archeologist, a person afraid of heights and enclosed spaces. They are very brave, and what they have discovered is facinating. I stuck to art and ceramics
After five or ten minutes watching this video, i can tell you, with 94.6% security, that there have been humans living on that point for at least 5000 years...
It reminds of some of the rugged terrain on Faroe Islands and was no hindrance for the first settlers there
i would speculate this was a viking camp for holding captive slaves temporarily till enough were rounded for transportation to viking settlements,the slave trade was certainly thriving at that time and the location would have made it easy to control the captives
Just started to watch and I reckon it is an ancient 1970's cannabis growing establishment away from prying eyes!
The girls worked hard and I can totally understand their disappointment at only getting charcoal
archeologists. The archeologists worked hard.
Why on earth are they not there with one metal detector so they can quickly and efficiently retrieve just a small representative sampling of relics by most advantageously locating the best places for the trenches? This given that this could prove to be the last or the only chance that anyone will have to access this place, as having backing and the making of a significant effort would be necessary to carry it out again. And by then, more restrictions may exist. And why did they choose an obviously disadvantageous time to go?
If this place is going to disappear , due to erosion - it’s silly to do tiny test pits. .. when Mother Nature takes it, that I if is gone for ever and so are it’s secrets
If you pay they dig.
If it was settled in 11C or earlier, especially when Scots invaded from Ireland, the weather might have been milder, the kame more accessible, and like mainland Scotland, more forested. The "leper colony" seems far-fetched, and we dont know that monasticism was common among the Picts. Right now, I'm pretty sire that it was a Tick-Tock amusement concession.
i bet the landscape didn't look like that hundreds of years ago bc the sea eats up the shoreline over time
There probably was a vine, twine, rope bridge snaking in from the spine rocks.
there should be places in the rock. pinions?
They need to Scuba around that place
I think they should try Excavating on the man land above the rock face they are working on. It looks to me like that chunk of land came off of the Mainland after the homes were built. I would check the mainland where are the houses would have been before the rock slide
They're not even through the intro and I'm thinking people would settle their because it's easy to defend. It also may not have been quite so difficult to get across at one time. Compared to some places I've seen ancient houses and granaries in the Americas it doesn't seem to bad to me. I'd love to see a group like Time Team do this. By 16:40 I'm fed up with their speculation. 20min in I'm fed up with the filler of basically their personal diaries.
Modern archeology is wild. “We have to preserve a site but we have no idea what it is and can only disturb a small area because it’s important but we don’t know why.”
Anyone with any sense would’ve dug until they could at least confirm exactly what it is, exactly why it’s there, and at least completely excavated the areas that are vulnerable to be swallowed by the sea to preserve any artifacts.
There seems to be no awareness that the site could’ve been more accessible 1200 years ago and that erosion may have turned it into what it is.
I never quite understand why I see so little real results. I suppose they are playing at time team. I keep hoping.
Your doing an amazing dedicated JOB. Don't be hard on yourself 😊❤
That location is a defensive
redoubt. The trail was wider then, supplies were stored in times
of war . Peaple were evacuated there in troubled times .
Very easy to defend.
evacuated theres why the size of the
why the size of buildings
Very interesting! I hope some sciences come back in the future.
A very interesting show, and i think like most people it left me wanting to know more, including why in the earth go there at that time of year?
Having only 3 days and those weather conditions, of what was found was exciting to say the least. Considering.......
But that opened up for more in the future for that site. October wasn't the best time obviously, but they only allowed to do little digging spots which doesn't give you the information you are looking for. But with that, Bravo to those whom took that expedition.
"If you're into instant gratification, don't consider archaeology as a career." Exactly what I decided at about age 8! Far better to read the conclusions or view the dig from a comfy chair than dig through someone's ancient latrine, or fall off cliffs, or look for YEARS and find zip.
Seems like a good spot to watch for enemy approaching by sea.
Why didn't they do this thing in like July and what's with digging up the pointy end of the boat-shaped structure. Wouldn't digging up its middle be more likely to find something?
July wind is similar
In some shots, there's a very clear path worn along the spine- probably lots of visitors walking and back forth, without complaining so much.
They said it was a sheep path
Vikings traveled, could this have been a temporary camp, or perhaps the region offered something to bring back home?
In that opening you can hear him struggling not to do a Loyd Grossman impression
Great place for drying fish!
I’m in love with Val. You go girl!
At least you can jump ahead in search of less annoying bits where we might learn something.
Be there in May and June, July with long daylight!
Looks like it was once in that hole...
on the attached mainland
Exactly
It's frustrating that they always have only a few days to work while obviously they need more time
@27:12 you can literally see where at one point the part they are excavating had been torn off from the mainland. The pathway was most likely bigger for them… it had to have been! Orrr they were there before the piece of land broke off. I’d do an excavation of the mainland as well!
I'm just going to make an analogous observation.. I'm not necessarily talking about this site in particular. During the War between the states here in the US, there was a young Union Major general, named George Armstrong Custer. He and several of the generals came to the bank of a river, and the other generals got into a discussion, speculating about how deep it was. They continued for a bit, and finally Custer got a little bit aggravated, entrada is horse out into the middle of the stream. Speaking to the ranking general, he said General Sir, this is how deep it is.. This is a lot like all the archaeological, and historical speculation that goes on, rather than digging and gathering hard evidence..
First, this might be my fault. I watched this documentary with only one eye. I was surprised how little success they had. Did they have restrictions on days to dig? Why? By the government? If the place is really empty, I guess they did a great job. Quick, little disturbing of the area and they found out who had been there. But my gut tells me that this place has a lot more to tell us. If that is the case I just did not get why they could not find the answers. They might have explained it, but I didn't notice it.
As someone who works on rope for a living, watching the rope work in this is nerve-racking.
This show is so irritating. There is plenty of intrigue in the subject matter. They don't need to manufacture it with terrible planning and mishaps with logistics. People watching a show like this aren't going to watch for the rock climbing. They want to see the archeology. I have tried to watch this episode three times. Each time, I get irritated and quit. I guess I'll go find an episode of Time Team I haven't seen in a while...
a so so beach on one side and a big beach on the other and you think they'd use that crevice with a large swell to keep the boats. be practical. it's a climb but the beach has the rocks also. we needed to pull the boats ashore to clean the worms from the hulls. blue tooth sent ships out to find the settlements and kill us. we had to move. have fun.
@31:22 Person bitching about logistics... Face palm. Was it his fault who knows she just seemed pissed off.
How do I message someone about my DNA and this particular site? ❤
Who would live there?
I would. In a heartbeat.
That is gorgeous & isolated - PERFECT. 😍😍
It's all about the archaeologists and very little about the archaeology
For all the people screaming "they could have landed everything in a helicopter!" No they couldn't have. The helicopter would have had to land RIGHT on the archaeological evidence (the marks of the buildings.) This means that anything fragile and close to the surface could have been BROKEN by the weight of the machine. Helicopters (according to google) are 600+lbs. I would wager that the size needed to get the team AND all the gear up there would weigh several tons. Especially loaded with the team and all the gear. Plus with the obvious evidence of erosion...the weight of the helicopter could cause a chunk of the land to just drop off with archaeological evidence STRAIGHT into the sea. They chose the best way to get to the site that would have the least amount of damage to it.
Also for those saying they could have picked a better time/date. You don't know how hard it was to get permission to dig the site. For all you know they were told "you have ONLY this time to do it in and none other." Also its the UK its usually rainy and windy there from my understanding lol.
Is there a chance that this remote settlement could have been a refuge for times of attack by a hostile clan? The difficult access would be easy to defend
I hope that someone takes up this challenge again, soon. Also, if they were pitching detritus into the sea, what about searching there? Probably dicey, but this is extreme archeology, and they could possibly use remote devices, as well. I understand a bit of what the team must feel, so close, but so far from knowing for sure. The question will forever be in the back of my mind.
💚🌎😎🍀
I`ve never climbed anything harder than Mt. Washington and even I have seen mistakes in these riggings. Goofy!
Get a geologist to determine why it slopes - could be that this whole kame peninsula was better attached to land and it fell with shore erosion.
Rock climbing in October? How about a Helicopter lift in June?
October anywhere near the sea is a bad idea. Why wasn't a helicopter employed? they should have biovac'd there to save the crawl back and forth but that's my two cents worth. Too bad they couldn't find anything. They say it's a protected area, for what? to be photographed from the air? it will never become an attraction but just a curiosity. The Kame was probably far bigger back then.