I hope Honda is paying very close attention to EVERYBODY complaining about the 2.0 turbo going away. I seriously hope this car doesn’t sell less than the rivals but it sounds like Honda is in trouble.
Honda says the take rate for the 2.0T was about 10% but at the same time they never marketed it. A lot of people didn't know the 2.0T even existed and since Honda doesn't allow for special/custom orders, dealers would just order 1.5T's and Hybrids. Fun story: When I went to buy my 2.0T, the dealer I went to (the only local one willing to do MSRP, I just had to wait 3 months) was giving me the paperwork for a Sport Special Edition, which is a 1.5T. They thought the Sport SE was a 2.0T and didn't know there was a difference, and they're the Honda dealer... If it was either better marketed or there was more consumer information, I have a feeling it would've sold better.
@@drivescene6747 Marketing is the worst? How do they sell any cars then? They asked me many many questions as a Honda buyer to gauge my likes. I think they both study their respective market and also introduce novel features. The main complaints I have are that the dealerships are poorly managed almost as if on purpose. Acura presents a positive experience while Honda is a letdown at dealer. Also warranty repairs are atrocious and denied.
I personally like how it looks. Maybe not as good as the last gen tho I don’t like how they got rid of the 2.0T, probably one of the highlights of the last gen.
If they had a hybrid powertrain with 250+ hp and a real automatic, I'd be ok with it. But I'm not happy with the CVT hybrid being the top of the line model.
Honda decided to go for what will make them some money, which they *really* need at the moment. Some people have failed to realize that Honda is a company trying to make a few dollars, and they could not care any less about what a few people on TH-cam say. The sales figures show that they aren't the ones buying their cars. If the majority of people actually wanted a fast Honda Accord, they would buy it.
They improved in all the areas that I would’ve wanted except for two areas. Exterior design and lack of the 2.0t. If I still commuted daily the hybrid would be more appealing. Any enjoyment of any spirited driving is killed by the powertrain. So many reviewers are trying to be optimistic about it, but they’re not at all.
the pricing of the accord hybrid is on par with that of other hybrids. The base accord has been quicker than the competition and it likely still will be. The main loss is the 252hp motor, but lower trims will remain the quickest in their segments.
@@macaron3141592653 The base Camry has 202 horsepower and the base Accord has 192. Even if the Accord is more powerful than a few other cars in the base form it's still a very negligible difference and doesn't excuse the cancellation of the 2.0T, nor does it excuse the 2023 Touring being $10K more expensive than last year's Touring with a fraction of the power. Being "relevant to other hybrids" is a dumb argument when they're literally forcing you to get one if you want an upper trim and it's slower than last year's car. Literally everything above the LX and EX forces you to go hybrid
@@sunshinelolipops1 The accord is still quicker because it has more torque. I've driven both base models and the Camry is anemic in comparison. Higher torque +slightly lower peak HP still means a more powerful motor overall. The accord is the only midsize sedan that will do 0-60 in under 7 seconds in base form.
@@macaron3141592653 The 4 cylinder Camry has also been rated to do 0-60 in under 7 seconds. It's not a special feature of the Accord at all. You "driving both" and one "seeming faster" counts for nothing. I own a 10th gen Accord so I'm not even biased against Honda. You're just really misinformed and trying to claim your personal opinions and feelings as facts
Naturally, the interior change would’ve just been fine and add LED turn and reverse on the tail on previous gen. this just took the stylish look off the accord list.
I agree with everyone about the 2 L turbo it was a blast to drive but I didn’t know that the 2.0 t only accounted for 2% of sales good review good info
This 11th gen is growing on me, but the 10th is definitely better. There are things that this car is lacking that would definitely actually make it an improvement over the 10th gen. It’s sooo bland. Even some fog lights would make a big difference, and since the 2.0t is gone, they could’ve at least made a higher output hybrid powertrain to match the performance of the 2.0t
As a 2.0 Accord owner there’s much better options than the 2.0 accord. I mean it’s an accord. It’s not for power. Honda was definitely experimenting with the 2.0. I bet you Honda has a 1 of 1 2023 accord with a 2.0 in it when testing. Just don’t work out.
@@Porsche4life the 2.0 Accord does not even feel like a 2.0 with the 2023, if they wanted if kept that engine I would have probably got the new car, but honestly it's not worth it for a car enthusiast
@@ComputerTeckMaster16 no it’s not. I think Honda wants us to switch over to Acura for the 2.0 tlx. But that’s such a big and heavy car I haven’t seen anyone really modify it or anything. Besides exhaust. So it seems we are forced to move to Toyota with the v6 Camry or else where. But idk where lol?
I love how the new accords look, but dam im glad i just got my 9th gen 2014 accord V6 EXL. the bit of power it offers is amazing, and still saves ya some money in gas
Funny thing is they talk about gas mileage my V6 has in the real world on average gets over 30-35 MPG on the High-way 70-75 on a 20-25 minute commute with stop and go at times. Now I will admit in town that is a different story but still MPG can not be your only goal for a 40K car I expect better materials. Whoever they had in charge over the 9th and 10th gen Accord I want them back.
@@jeepluv76 Yup. I want whoever was in charge of the 9th/10th gen back. The V6 and 2.0T really were some great engines. The classis might be better with the 11th gen but I can't get over the styling myself and the lack of a higher performance engine ruins it for me. I'm probably keeping my '22 Sport 2.0T till it dies at this point. 37-40 mpg on the highway at 70-75 mph over 35 mins. Not a big difference vs the V6 but it's still a fun engine.
@@aaz1992 I bought a 2017 EX-L V6 new and it has 34,000 miles on it .. After watching this ‘23 review I was relieved to have bought my Accord when I did. Last year for the V6 and the classic body style. Our 2017’s just increased in value because there are so many Honda enthusiasts out there looking to buy them used - but I don’t ever plan on trading mine in because I have the title and I don’t want to worry about car payments for another fifteen years! 👍🏻
It definitely looks more tame and generic compared to the last gen, although it does look decent. I’m just not excited by Hondas new styling direction with the new gens as the new Civic comes to mind. What’s always made Honda vehicles so great was their more exciting sharp styling which it has lost now. The cheap hard plastics and again, plain door panels and seats is a real bummer. No rear seat ventilation on that level of trim is freakin inexcusable. The road noise seems high on concrete roads and over rough pavement which could be a dealbreaker for some people.
I saw a lot of accords on the street. Not many of them were 2.0T. So they aren't losing a very big market. Besides, with gas prices going up, I think Honda made a good move and I expect to be seeing a lot more new Accords on the street in the near future.
I like the things you talk about. Never seen somebody testing the turning radius before. In my opinion this infos are more important than your personal opinion on every switch or how the seats look.
The new Accords do look good, i didn't accept it at first but it does. The problem is that it doesn't look anywhere near as good as the last model and the loss of the 2.0T is a tragedy and probably why i will go somewhere else for my next car.
The most troubling aspect of the 10th to 11th Gen transition (other than the demise of the 2.0T as you note in your video title) is the feature deprecation in 11th Gen models compared to their 10th Gen predecessor trim levels. This is the "top" 11th Gen Sport trim (Sport L). Here's what it omits compared to the outgoing Sport 2.0T: driver's side map pocket - gone, rear seat air vents - gone, rear USB charging ports - gone, LED fog lamps - gone, stitched, padded rear armrests - gone (replaced with uber-cheap molded polyurethane textured units).. The all leather interior is nice, the new styling is bland but inoffensive (and I agree lacks any traditional Honda styling quirks - call it generic), it is a bit quieter in terms of NVH compared to the outgoing generation, etc. But here's the thing. it's a family sedan. It is woefully inadequate as a VW GTI performance driving/motorsports alternative. Families often use all of the seating positions for, well, family members. And this is not an inexpensive trim level. The deprecation of the occupant comfort and convenience features is kind of silly cost-cutting in a model better for people carrying than canyon carving. It's like the accounting team (Yen savings focus) and experience design team (customer use case focus) didn't talk during the project. I also wonder whether the drop in price of the base RWD single motor Tesla Model 3 to ~$30k after tax credits will decimate mid-sided family sedan segment sales (particularly Accord and Camry). The Tesla is RWD and handles better than FWD vehicles, is quicker than any 11th Gen Accord in its single motor base clothes, and quicker than all but the V6 Camry models/trims, has comparable generous passenger interior space, and for much of the US is supported by a now truly expansive Supercharger network (i.e., the 278 mile per charge range of the base model isn't much of a liability vs a gasoline powered sedan). As a newer brand Tesla also has a lot more "cachet" than these hoary old "fleet" sedan model lines. Still, it's not too late for Honda to redeem the 11th Gen. All it would take would be a limited production Type R model. Maybe with the 2.0T model with the LSD and DCT borrowed from the Type R and a hooning-oriented suspension tune, or an AWD version borrowing Acura's SH-AWD and one of Honda's surviving V6s (the new 3.5 DOHC unit in the Pilot or the 3.0 from Acura). Honda still has the pieces in production to make a more engaging, enthusiast oriented Accord. Will they? Probably not.
I haven't liked the bodystyle for years, more specifically the body shape. I still enjoy the body shape of the generation ending in 2017. While I will admit, Honda has improved the style of the front of the Accord, the rear bodyshape just doesn't do it for me. That and the fact that I enjoyed the older model's design that had better viewing angles from the interior and less blind spots. All of the tech that has been created is more of a distraction than a help in making a workaround. The backup camera does have some other practical uses that are truly helpful and less of a workaround.
Great review! But I’ll hang onto my 17 V6 coupe 6MT…. Love how the J35 sounds.. Not interested in Hybrid tech even though it’s great on gas! Just want to continue having fun whilst driving.
I just bought a 2024 touring hybrid in all black. Looks pretty sleek in black. But I'm kind of blown away there are no rear vents in the lower trim. Since when is that not a standard feature? Passengers would literally die here in AZ heat, especially if someone had a baby on board.
Just here to update everyone, The 11th Generation Honda Accord is selling extremely well. Sales are on the up and up! So all the crying about the styling DID NOT WORK 😊
I think what really bothers me the most is that they cut corners with the basic finishes. How is it that my 2013 EX came with turn indicators on the sideview mirrors PLUS driverside blindspot camera and this don't? 2023 Honda still using prompt rods, no panoramic sunroof, no rear Air vents(that's just harsh), lol bigger screen than what comes in the Pilot yet no 360 views the same 3 basic views since 2018..... I guess Honda's big idea for 2023 was to make the Civic their flagship sedan, atleast the SI and R maintained perfomance and the hatchbacks are outstanding!
I love my 2022 Accord 2.0 glad I didn’t wait because these new accords look like old and dated to the 2010’s even though it’s a new design. Ford fusion vibes on exterior, interior looks good and refined though
Enjoyed your review. Question, is the new Accord front wheel drive or rear wheel drive? I'm one of that 10% with a 2018 EXL with the 2.0 and personally I wouldn't trade it for this new model. I enjoy having that extra power, it puts some fun into the driving experience. As for the 10 speed automatic, I have no complaints. Thanks again for the great review.
@@CARDAMELO Same, I’m leasing mine. I love it a lot. Hopefully when my lease is up they have the 2.0T back (likely never happening) or a more powerful hybrid with 290+ HP/340+ TQ. Also fog lights and standard BSM..
@@CARDAMELO Yes feels very luxurious. Way better than my 2019 Acura ILX I traded in. I may even buy out the lease if I find myself driving it too much LOL.
I’ll be keeping my 2017 EX-L Coupe V6! The 2023 seems so poorly designed and overpriced when compared to the previous gens that I’m going to burst out laughing next time I take my 2017 to the dealership for service and the salesman asks me if I’d like to trade it in for a’23. I’m a devoted Honda fan though - I’m looking forward to whatever they produce in future years. I’m going to remain optimistic, hopefully they’ll get it right next time.
The previous gen was revolutionary. This is a slight evolution on an identical chassis that is actually less ridgid due to the battery pack LOL. And it's slow. If Honda wanted to do this, you have to match the acceleration of the previous gen...
I want to like it but the interior is a sea of black beige is no longer an option just (black and gray interiors) I love the design itself just would like to see a few more elements inside to give it more character. My 2014 EX-L V6 has a better sound to the door and the interior has better materials even the back door has leather on the top portion of the panel and rear air-vents. Honda has cheapen up on materials just to follow the market. Honestly from hearing what others are saying they wanted to bring the car up market however, they missed the mark for me. Honda needs to go back to the 9th gen especially the EX-L and Touring trims to remind them what upmarket is like and how the Accord should be. Irony of mentioning the 9th gen and one drives by at 9:03 lol.
Not for me. I have always bought the last year for the model honda I liked. 2000 civic, 2012 accord and now my 17 accord. This way, You get the refreshed version you like, and the kinks have been worked out. I don't know what they've done to this 5 yr haul they've created (model lifespan) gets refreshed 3 yrs in. Run the refresh for 2 yrs, then on to the next generation. But as for this generation, I won't be getting one. Remember the 10 gets fuel/oil mixing problem in the 2018's and 2019'. That was the new 10th gen model. The had all the stuff worked out as the generation runs and exposed problems have been address. But this lack of power, I mean the engine isn't even connected to anything. Did you know that? It's literally there to make power for the battery and has fake shifts as it is not connected to a transmission. I'm so confused by these choices, oh and 6 modes of braking?!!?
First No F1, then no MT in the 2.0 accord, now no 2.0... They have totally lost me. After owning 6 Hondas (while still own 2), I will have to go get a G70 or a Kia K5. We that hate SUVs & want a "sporty " car & have kids (rear seats) are severely disappointed. Not to mention that it looks perfect for fleet sales, bland as the last ford Taurus. Honda Accord... the new police cruiser.
Based on your review, maybe I’m missing something, this new accord is not worth it for the price. They cut corners, all for a more expensive price tag compared to its competition.
I was all prepared to trade up for a 23 Touring but with no 2.0T, my 21 Touring will probably be my first and last Honda. I can't see myself paying for an Acura to get the 2.0T when it'll be smaller, and slower than the Accord.
i remember when my dad got his accord in 2016 he bought it a trim above the sport for only 26k msrp and 24 negotiated. cars are too expensive these days
May I suggest that you can show more driving assistance technology for POV. Even Honda has already went through 3 generations of Honda Sensing in last 6 years. I am considering new car based on the most innovative and advanced driving assist technology
Never buy the first year of a new Honda Accord! You will get more if you wait a year or two. The 2.0T is a nice car - we rented one for a trip a few years ago. I love my 2014 Honda Accord EX Sedan with a 2.4L non turbo engine AND CVT!!! Just turned 80K miles on the odometer last week. Currently I only put < 5K miles a year and I will see what the new Accord has to offer when I retire, in 3 years:)
NAHH I AM STILL KEEPING MY 1.5T 2018 WAS LOOKING TO UPGRADE TO 2023 2.0T BUT WILL WAIT AND FIND A NICE 2.0T AND SWAP MINE .. honda might have to consider 2.0T IN THE 2024 OTHERWISE LOOSING ALOT OF CUSOTMERS
The interior is fine and hybrids aren't the worst. What I don't get is why the styling is so boring. It's not even bad, just plain. I hope the guys over at Yofer can help with the styling, but I don't see myself going to an 11th gen from my 2019
The 2022 model is definitely better I have one myself a hybrid exl model it’s my favorite car of them all. Has plenty of get up and go 0-60 is 6 seconds in sport mode. And I get almost the same mileage with 212 hp compared to this 149
Lets make it clear, most cars today no longer come with leather. It's all pleather, leatherette, or vinyl. Leather was taken off the market for the most part
It was only 10 percent or less because these fools couldn’t manufacture anything!! Every single dang time I called the dealership, they said they do not have the 2022 touring. They said it was extremely hard to snag one
What Honda really is missing is that most drivers are boring drivers, hence, large portion on SUV sales. Those of us that like & want cars are, a large part, enthusiasts. That means make an enthusiast's car, not a rental fleet hero.
Think it's a disappointment from the 10th generation. It was alot more sportier and I think it's just going to make the 2.0t more valuable or even the 1.5t at that. The power of the gas engine 10 speed and turbo honda was on to something. They should of kept the sporty look cause not everyone want to drive a civic.
without the 2.0t performance this car is not worth the money imo. with markups these things get close to 50k, for that money even if im looking towards practicality, id expect it to be a little fun to drive. for almost 20k less you can get the new 200hp prius which will outperform it and get significantly better gas mileage. with awd as an option. if you need a hybrid honestly its a no brainer
Yes we are all disappointed in the fact that the 2.0 is gone but… this means Honda was struggling in making them either fast or economical. Since we’re in a middle of a Great Depression, they decided to make it wayyyy fuel efficient. Watch Honda is going to make a crazy engine in the future just wait.
My first Accord was a 1988 Accord Coupe LXi. My last one is my current 2021 Accord Touring 2.0T. Won’t be buying any more Accords unless Honda chooses to offer a more powerful version in the future. Going from my 2.0T to this weak Accord Hybrid would be a colossal downgrade.
I have never been a fan of Honda. The only two Honda's I've ever liked was the last generation of the Prelude when I was in Highschool back in '99 and some of the Civic generation. The Accord never caught my attention. But this new generation I like especially the retro darken taillights. It reminds me of my Aunts 1990 Chevy Beretta taillights a little back in the day. I'm surprised with the low Hp in the New Accord. But I guess most might buy its cousin the Acura TLX instead.
I hope Honda is paying very close attention to EVERYBODY complaining about the 2.0 turbo going away. I seriously hope this car doesn’t sell less than the rivals but it sounds like Honda is in trouble.
I don’t think they’re gonna care, they had the same reaction when they got rid of the V6 for the 4 cylinders 2.0 turbo.
@@LouBuckzz Yeah until the 2.0T came out and absolutely smoked the V6's numbers
@@Pharium nah Ofcourse, but i doubt they would do it with this generation.
@Dante They should add a 2.0t in the refresh. See how it does, if good keep it for the next gen, if bad then move on to hybrid/electric
2.o is never coming back, so quit crying
Honda says the take rate for the 2.0T was about 10% but at the same time they never marketed it. A lot of people didn't know the 2.0T even existed and since Honda doesn't allow for special/custom orders, dealers would just order 1.5T's and Hybrids.
Fun story: When I went to buy my 2.0T, the dealer I went to (the only local one willing to do MSRP, I just had to wait 3 months) was giving me the paperwork for a Sport Special Edition, which is a 1.5T. They thought the Sport SE was a 2.0T and didn't know there was a difference, and they're the Honda dealer... If it was either better marketed or there was more consumer information, I have a feeling it would've sold better.
They also don't pay attention, lots of people bought them slightly used because the styling was initially surprising, but very likeable.
Spot on. I love Honda, but they have to for the absolute worst marketing I’ve ever seen
@@drivescene6747 Marketing is the worst? How do they sell any cars then? They asked me many many questions as a Honda buyer to gauge my likes. I think they both study their respective market and also introduce novel features. The main complaints I have are that the dealerships are poorly managed almost as if on purpose. Acura presents a positive experience while Honda is a letdown at dealer. Also warranty repairs are atrocious and denied.
I personally like how it looks. Maybe not as good as the last gen tho
I don’t like how they got rid of the 2.0T, probably one of the highlights of the last gen.
Maybe honda wants people to buy the tlx a spec to get the 2.0t 10AT
@@ybitv5475 Man even with the 2.0T the TLX is nowhere near as fast as the accord cause of its weight 😭 it's not the same
This looks miles cleaner than the last gen
If they had a hybrid powertrain with 250+ hp and a real automatic, I'd be ok with it. But I'm not happy with the CVT hybrid being the top of the line model.
Its looks like a redesigned ford taurus
Idk man this new Accord doesn’t look good from the outside. Previous gen sport model looks wayyyy better imo
Agreed 1000%. Not sure why people think the previous gen looked offensive.
Your trippen. Just saw a 22 Accord Sport-L in Platinum White. I drive a 22 Civic Si Platinum White. I was breakin my neck bro
The front looks good, but the side profile and back looks interesting… it does look better in person though😭
Yeah no kidding
The front is a no
In my opinion this generation looks way better than the previous one.
Honda decided to go for what will make them some money, which they *really* need at the moment. Some people have failed to realize that Honda is a company trying to make a few dollars, and they could not care any less about what a few people on TH-cam say. The sales figures show that they aren't the ones buying their cars. If the majority of people actually wanted a fast Honda Accord, they would buy it.
They improved in all the areas that I would’ve wanted except for two areas. Exterior design and lack of the 2.0t. If I still commuted daily the hybrid would be more appealing. Any enjoyment of any spirited driving is killed by the powertrain. So many reviewers are trying to be optimistic about it, but they’re not at all.
Went from having the quickest midsize to the slowest
And, it's over $10,000 more expensive
the pricing of the accord hybrid is on par with that of other hybrids. The base accord has been quicker than the competition and it likely still will be. The main loss is the 252hp motor, but lower trims will remain the quickest in their segments.
@@macaron3141592653 The base Camry has 202 horsepower and the base Accord has 192. Even if the Accord is more powerful than a few other cars in the base form it's still a very negligible difference and doesn't excuse the cancellation of the 2.0T, nor does it excuse the 2023 Touring being $10K more expensive than last year's Touring with a fraction of the power. Being "relevant to other hybrids" is a dumb argument when they're literally forcing you to get one if you want an upper trim and it's slower than last year's car. Literally everything above the LX and EX forces you to go hybrid
@@sunshinelolipops1 The accord is still quicker because it has more torque. I've driven both base models and the Camry is anemic in comparison. Higher torque +slightly lower peak HP still means a more powerful motor overall. The accord is the only midsize sedan that will do 0-60 in under 7 seconds in base form.
@@macaron3141592653 The 4 cylinder Camry has also been rated to do 0-60 in under 7 seconds. It's not a special feature of the Accord at all. You "driving both" and one "seeming faster" counts for nothing. I own a 10th gen Accord so I'm not even biased against Honda. You're just really misinformed and trying to claim your personal opinions and feelings as facts
I have a 2022 sport 2.0 and it’s a really great car. They lost me by not offering that engine in the next generation.
Naturally, the interior change would’ve just been fine and add LED turn and reverse on the tail on previous gen. this just took the stylish look off the accord list.
As a 2022 Accord Sport Owner, I definitely think it’s a no go, it looks like a npc car now Frfr
Ngl the NPC stuff is dumb. We are all npc 😂
I agree with everyone about the 2 L turbo it was a blast to drive but I didn’t know that the 2.0 t only accounted for 2% of sales good review good info
This 11th gen is growing on me, but the 10th is definitely better. There are things that this car is lacking that would definitely actually make it an improvement over the 10th gen. It’s sooo bland. Even some fog lights would make a big difference, and since the 2.0t is gone, they could’ve at least made a higher output hybrid powertrain to match the performance of the 2.0t
Lowkey I love that low humming the vehicle does at low speeds. 😂
2.0T I'll stick to my 21 Accord. I would never go for that, I can put the latest tech in my car like the 2023, an engine you can't replace..
As a 2.0 Accord owner there’s much better options than the 2.0 accord. I mean it’s an accord. It’s not for power. Honda was definitely experimenting with the 2.0. I bet you Honda has a 1 of 1 2023 accord with a 2.0 in it when testing. Just don’t work out.
@@Porsche4life the 2.0 Accord does not even feel like a 2.0 with the 2023, if they wanted if kept that engine I would have probably got the new car, but honestly it's not worth it for a car enthusiast
@@ComputerTeckMaster16 no it’s not. I think Honda wants us to switch over to Acura for the 2.0 tlx. But that’s such a big and heavy car I haven’t seen anyone really modify it or anything. Besides exhaust. So it seems we are forced to move to Toyota with the v6 Camry or else where. But idk where lol?
They actually discontinued the 2.0 because people weren’t buying it, it only made up 20% of sales.
I love how the new accords look, but dam im glad i just got my 9th gen 2014 accord V6 EXL. the bit of power it offers is amazing, and still saves ya some money in gas
Funny thing is they talk about gas mileage my V6 has in the real world on average gets over 30-35 MPG on the High-way 70-75 on a 20-25 minute commute with stop and go at times. Now I will admit in town that is a different story but still MPG can not be your only goal for a 40K car I expect better materials. Whoever they had in charge over the 9th and 10th gen Accord I want them back.
@@jeepluv76 Yup. I want whoever was in charge of the 9th/10th gen back. The V6 and 2.0T really were some great engines. The classis might be better with the 11th gen but I can't get over the styling myself and the lack of a higher performance engine ruins it for me. I'm probably keeping my '22 Sport 2.0T till it dies at this point. 37-40 mpg on the highway at 70-75 mph over 35 mins. Not a big difference vs the V6 but it's still a fun engine.
@@jeepluv76 i agree!
I have a 2017 V6 Touring with almost 230,000 miles. Never seen a check engine light. The car industry today is simply depressing
@@aaz1992 I bought a 2017 EX-L V6 new and it has 34,000 miles on it .. After watching this ‘23 review I was relieved to have bought my Accord when I did. Last year for the V6 and the classic body style. Our 2017’s just increased in value because there are so many Honda enthusiasts out there looking to buy them used - but I don’t ever plan on trading mine in because I have the title and I don’t want to worry about car payments for another fifteen years! 👍🏻
It definitely looks more tame and generic compared to the last gen, although it does look decent. I’m just not excited by Hondas new styling direction with the new gens as the new Civic comes to mind. What’s always made Honda vehicles so great was their more exciting sharp styling which it has lost now.
The cheap hard plastics and again, plain door panels and seats is a real bummer. No rear seat ventilation on that level of trim is freakin inexcusable.
The road noise seems high on concrete roads and over rough pavement which could be a dealbreaker for some people.
It's funny we're clearly movie towards EV's but people still are shocked that cars are getting cleaner (emissions) and less power to do that job.
I saw a lot of accords on the street. Not many of them were 2.0T. So they aren't losing a very big market. Besides, with gas prices going up, I think Honda made a good move and I expect to be seeing a lot more new Accords on the street in the near future.
A boring dystopian world we're in
That red color is really sharp looking! 😎
I like the things you talk about. Never seen somebody testing the turning radius before. In my opinion this infos are more important than your personal opinion on every switch or how the seats look.
Me personally I love what Honda did with the accord I love how it looks
The new Accords do look good, i didn't accept it at first but it does. The problem is that it doesn't look anywhere near as good as the last model and the loss of the 2.0T is a tragedy and probably why i will go somewhere else for my next car.
The most troubling aspect of the 10th to 11th Gen transition (other than the demise of the 2.0T as you note in your video title) is the feature deprecation in 11th Gen models compared to their 10th Gen predecessor trim levels. This is the "top" 11th Gen Sport trim (Sport L). Here's what it omits compared to the outgoing Sport 2.0T: driver's side map pocket - gone, rear seat air vents - gone, rear USB charging ports - gone, LED fog lamps - gone, stitched, padded rear armrests - gone (replaced with uber-cheap molded polyurethane textured units).. The all leather interior is nice, the new styling is bland but inoffensive (and I agree lacks any traditional Honda styling quirks - call it generic), it is a bit quieter in terms of NVH compared to the outgoing generation, etc.
But here's the thing. it's a family sedan. It is woefully inadequate as a VW GTI performance driving/motorsports alternative. Families often use all of the seating positions for, well, family members. And this is not an inexpensive trim level. The deprecation of the occupant comfort and convenience features is kind of silly cost-cutting in a model better for people carrying than canyon carving. It's like the accounting team (Yen savings focus) and experience design team (customer use case focus) didn't talk during the project.
I also wonder whether the drop in price of the base RWD single motor Tesla Model 3 to ~$30k after tax credits will decimate mid-sided family sedan segment sales (particularly Accord and Camry). The Tesla is RWD and handles better than FWD vehicles, is quicker than any 11th Gen Accord in its single motor base clothes, and quicker than all but the V6 Camry models/trims, has comparable generous passenger interior space, and for much of the US is supported by a now truly expansive Supercharger network (i.e., the 278 mile per charge range of the base model isn't much of a liability vs a gasoline powered sedan). As a newer brand Tesla also has a lot more "cachet" than these hoary old "fleet" sedan model lines.
Still, it's not too late for Honda to redeem the 11th Gen. All it would take would be a limited production Type R model. Maybe with the 2.0T model with the LSD and DCT borrowed from the Type R and a hooning-oriented suspension tune, or an AWD version borrowing Acura's SH-AWD and one of Honda's surviving V6s (the new 3.5 DOHC unit in the Pilot or the 3.0 from Acura). Honda still has the pieces in production to make a more engaging, enthusiast oriented Accord. Will they? Probably not.
Love it💪exterior looks so clean. Only thing i dont like they got rid off that 2.0& shifter knob..
I haven't liked the bodystyle for years, more specifically the body shape. I still enjoy the body shape of the generation ending in 2017. While I will admit, Honda has improved the style of the front of the Accord, the rear bodyshape just doesn't do it for me. That and the fact that I enjoyed the older model's design that had better viewing angles from the interior and less blind spots. All of the tech that has been created is more of a distraction than a help in making a workaround. The backup camera does have some other practical uses that are truly helpful and less of a workaround.
Great review! But I’ll hang onto my 17 V6 coupe 6MT…. Love how the J35 sounds.. Not interested in Hybrid tech even though it’s great on gas! Just want to continue having fun whilst driving.
The 2023 Honda took a giant step backward on style and function.
I wish they would’ve implemented the interior of this gen into the previous one. Would’ve been the best Sedan imo
Thanks for helping make my mind up. Toyota Camry V6 here i come!
I just bought a 2024 touring hybrid in all black. Looks pretty sleek in black. But I'm kind of blown away there are no rear vents in the lower trim. Since when is that not a standard feature? Passengers would literally die here in AZ heat, especially if someone had a baby on board.
Personally, I like the toned down design that Honda is doing now. Think it looks way better than last gen but to each their own.
Agree.
Oh come on. The last gen wasn't THAT offensive.
Lol you must be 80 years old
@@ceciljohnson6910 you right this dude saying looks better than the previous generation he’s a senior citizen
this was a great video! using it to research the upcoming civic hybrid
The looks of the car makes me confused.
It looks slick yet i don't like it at the same time?
I don't know my brain does not compute this design.
Just here to update everyone, The 11th Generation Honda Accord is selling extremely well. Sales are on the up and up! So all the crying about the styling DID NOT WORK 😊
I think what really bothers me the most is that they cut corners with the basic finishes. How is it that my 2013 EX came with turn indicators on the sideview mirrors PLUS driverside blindspot camera and this don't? 2023 Honda still using prompt rods, no panoramic sunroof, no rear Air vents(that's just harsh), lol bigger screen than what comes in the Pilot yet no 360 views the same 3 basic views since 2018..... I guess Honda's big idea for 2023 was to make the Civic their flagship sedan, atleast the SI and R maintained perfomance and the hatchbacks are outstanding!
RIP 2.0 Accord. The 11th generation lost the soul of an Accord and morphed into just another commuter car.
8:56 hey look! The best Accord ever made!
I love my 2022 Accord 2.0 glad I didn’t wait because these new accords look like old and dated to the 2010’s even though it’s a new design. Ford fusion vibes on exterior, interior looks good and refined though
The Japanese are upping their design game with the new Prius and now the new Accord.
Prius yes, this no
i have this exact trim and love it!
Enjoyed your review. Question, is the new Accord front wheel drive or rear wheel drive? I'm one of that 10% with a 2018 EXL with the 2.0 and personally I wouldn't trade it for this new model. I enjoy having that extra power, it puts some fun into the driving experience. As for the 10 speed automatic, I have no complaints. Thanks again for the great review.
The new one is still FWD only.
Camry TRD for the win.
its starting to grow on me honestly.
Me too and I just got one
@@CARDAMELO Same, I’m leasing mine. I love it a lot. Hopefully when my lease is up they have the 2.0T back (likely never happening) or a more powerful hybrid with 290+ HP/340+ TQ. Also fog lights and standard BSM..
@@lefthanded5473 I like the design and sport mode. Little affordable luxury car feel
@@CARDAMELO Yes feels very luxurious. Way better than my 2019 Acura ILX I traded in. I may even buy out the lease if I find myself driving it too much LOL.
All the time Honda acorrd is the best car try to drive you know how the car good
I'm still loving my V6!
Same. 2017 was peak Accord
if people really want that 2.0T they can get an Acura TLX. you can get one with under 20K miles on it for less than what this accord cost.
I think the design looks much better than previous gen.
great design choice looks modern
Conservative is the word.
it looks boring and plain
Na it doesn’t the 2020 looked the best
Why? Because it doesn't look "offensive"? Lol get a grip. Like GOd forbid automakers make their cars look sporty.
I loved the last Gen 2.0T this car looks like the civic
I just got one in platinum white. I was more interested in gas mileage than having the 2.0T. I have a 2.0T and it's not great on gas.
@@lefthanded5473 why does my financial obligation concern you?
2021 Accord 2.0t all the way !
Final someone did a pov
I’ll be keeping my 2017 EX-L Coupe V6! The 2023 seems so poorly designed and overpriced when compared to the previous gens that I’m going to burst out laughing next time I take my 2017 to the dealership for service and the salesman asks me if I’d like to trade it in for a’23. I’m a devoted Honda fan though - I’m looking forward to whatever they produce in future years. I’m going to remain optimistic, hopefully they’ll get it right next time.
The previous gen was revolutionary. This is a slight evolution on an identical chassis that is actually less ridgid due to the battery pack LOL. And it's slow.
If Honda wanted to do this, you have to match the acceleration of the previous gen...
I want to like it but the interior is a sea of black beige is no longer an option just (black and gray interiors) I love the design itself just would like to see a few more elements inside to give it more character. My 2014 EX-L V6 has a better sound to the door and the interior has better materials even the back door has leather on the top portion of the panel and rear air-vents. Honda has cheapen up on materials just to follow the market. Honestly from hearing what others are saying they wanted to bring the car up market however, they missed the mark for me. Honda needs to go back to the 9th gen especially the EX-L and Touring trims to remind them what upmarket is like and how the Accord should be. Irony of mentioning the 9th gen and one drives by at 9:03 lol.
Not for me. I have always bought the last year for the model honda I liked. 2000 civic, 2012 accord and now my 17 accord. This way, You get the refreshed version you like, and the kinks have been worked out. I don't know what they've done to this 5 yr haul they've created (model lifespan) gets refreshed 3 yrs in. Run the refresh for 2 yrs, then on to the next generation. But as for this generation, I won't be getting one. Remember the 10 gets fuel/oil mixing problem in the 2018's and 2019'. That was the new 10th gen model. The had all the stuff worked out as the generation runs and exposed problems have been address.
But this lack of power, I mean the engine isn't even connected to anything. Did you know that? It's literally there to make power for the battery and has fake shifts as it is not connected to a transmission. I'm so confused by these choices, oh and 6 modes of braking?!!?
First No F1, then no MT in the 2.0 accord, now no 2.0... They have totally lost me. After owning 6 Hondas (while still own 2), I will have to go get a G70 or a Kia K5. We that hate SUVs & want a "sporty " car & have kids (rear seats) are severely disappointed. Not to mention that it looks perfect for fleet sales, bland as the last ford Taurus. Honda Accord... the new police cruiser.
The 10th gen Accord was the last Accord. RIP to an absolute legend
Legend lives on!!!
9th gen V6, you mean
Based on your review, maybe I’m missing something, this new accord is not worth it for the price. They cut corners, all for a more expensive price tag compared to its competition.
Still prefer previous gen. It would have been so much better if it still had the 2 liter turbo.
dropping 2.0 turbo is huge mistake honda😡
I was all prepared to trade up for a 23 Touring but with no 2.0T, my 21 Touring will probably be my first and last Honda. I can't see myself paying for an Acura to get the 2.0T when it'll be smaller, and slower than the Accord.
Dude No Respectable Adult will buy a Car with 200Hp in a Midsize Car Period"
Not Up 4 Debate this is a Civic Hybrid Or premium civic aka a Joke"
i remember when my dad got his accord in 2016 he bought it a trim above the sport for only 26k msrp and 24 negotiated. cars are too expensive these days
The front of this car bothers me for some reason
This is going to sell a lot of Kias and Hyundais
Solid review.
May I suggest that you can show more driving assistance technology for POV. Even Honda has already went through 3 generations of Honda Sensing in last 6 years. I am considering new car based on the most innovative and advanced driving assist technology
Never buy the first year of a new Honda Accord! You will get more if you wait a year or two.
The 2.0T is a nice car - we rented one for a trip a few years ago.
I love my 2014 Honda Accord EX Sedan with a 2.4L non turbo engine AND CVT!!! Just turned 80K miles on the odometer last week.
Currently I only put < 5K miles a year and I will see what the new Accord has to offer when I retire, in 3 years:)
Were are you testing this car? San Diego?Beautiful area.
I am from India I like your videos🥰🥰🥰🥰
NAHH I AM STILL KEEPING MY 1.5T 2018 WAS LOOKING TO UPGRADE TO 2023 2.0T BUT WILL WAIT AND FIND A NICE 2.0T AND SWAP MINE .. honda might have to consider 2.0T IN THE 2024 OTHERWISE LOOSING ALOT OF CUSOTMERS
The interior is fine and hybrids aren't the worst. What I don't get is why the styling is so boring. It's not even bad, just plain. I hope the guys over at Yofer can help with the styling, but I don't see myself going to an 11th gen from my 2019
Great ride in Touring Form-- except no heated steering wheel and that is crazy!
I have a 21’ accord 2.0 with only 15k miles. They call me weekly to try and buy it. I know what I have.
I think the Altima looks better.
The Altima looks WAY better. Couldn’t agree more
The 2022 model is definitely better I have one myself a hybrid exl model it’s my favorite car of them all. Has plenty of get up and go 0-60 is 6 seconds in sport mode. And I get almost the same mileage with 212 hp compared to this 149
They claim the new hybrid power
train is 6.2 seconds
ngl the car now looks like the audi rs7 form side profile.
Not too shabby!
Even the taillights they look similar for sure
Lets make it clear, most cars today no longer come with leather. It's all pleather, leatherette, or vinyl. Leather was taken off the market for the most part
Honda paying folk hella money to sell the car that they fked up on!
It was only 10 percent or less because these fools couldn’t manufacture anything!! Every single dang time I called the dealership, they said they do not have the 2022 touring. They said it was extremely hard to snag one
They couldn’t improve on the 2020 design I was considering getting one of those and I’m an American car guy
What Honda really is missing is that most drivers are boring drivers, hence, large portion on SUV sales. Those of us that like & want cars are, a large part, enthusiasts. That means make an enthusiast's car, not a rental fleet hero.
Think it's a disappointment from the 10th generation. It was alot more sportier and I think it's just going to make the 2.0t more valuable or even the 1.5t at that. The power of the gas engine 10 speed and turbo honda was on to something. They should of kept the sporty look cause not everyone want to drive a civic.
Can u test drive EX-L trim and compare to hybrid sport with cloth seats, I am curious which one is better on the road
Why not a 2.0T with the hybrid system with the 10-speed making it the best of both worlds
Last generation accord is definitely better looking
without the 2.0t performance this car is not worth the money imo. with markups these things get close to 50k, for that money even if im looking towards practicality, id expect it to be a little fun to drive. for almost 20k less you can get the new 200hp prius which will outperform it and get significantly better gas mileage. with awd as an option. if you need a hybrid honestly its a no brainer
With gas prices this isn’t a bad car to consider buying
if people were really worried about gas prices suv's wouldn't be taking over
Yes we are all disappointed in the fact that the 2.0 is gone but… this means Honda was struggling in making them either fast or economical. Since we’re in a middle of a Great Depression, they decided to make it wayyyy fuel efficient. Watch Honda is going to make a crazy engine in the future just wait.
i love it im and 8th and up honda guy and really love it me and my mom was just talking about this a few weeks ago
I was watching the window magazine they collaborate
To me it looks good
The civic hatch sport touring got it in the bag
2023 V6 Camry will give the Accord the business. The Accord is finished.
I definitely would get it if it came with a 10 speed and over 250 HP. Nobody wants a full size sedan with 200 hp
My first car was a 2003 Honda Accord 😊
My first Accord was a 1988 Accord Coupe LXi. My last one is my current 2021 Accord Touring 2.0T. Won’t be buying any more Accords unless Honda chooses to offer a more powerful version in the future. Going from my 2.0T to this weak Accord Hybrid would be a colossal downgrade.
I have never been a fan of Honda. The only two Honda's I've ever liked was the last generation of the Prelude when I was in Highschool back in '99 and some of the Civic generation. The Accord never caught my attention. But this new generation I like especially the retro darken taillights. It reminds me of my Aunts 1990 Chevy Beretta taillights a little back in the day. I'm surprised with the low Hp in the New Accord. But I guess most might buy its cousin the Acura TLX instead.
Awesome color, but can you get a 2023 for MSRP?
Still want the 2.0t