after getting on top of that level there is a piranha on top of a beetle that you could grab with I frames to kill the next few plants, although I guess that can't explode the bobomb at the end
So, my husband and I have a theory on the thwomp level. We seem to recall them changing what was globally loaded. If the level was created and the shells on tracks were globally loaded, then the shell would be in a different position than if they changed shells on tracks to be locally loaded.
You’re totally right. It’s probably the 2.0 update that changed how the shells loaded. You can see them all start at the same point even when it looks totally illogical to do that.
@@cube2foxActually, at the end of the vido (like 23-24 min) he shows that the level was uploaded in 2018. I really do wonder what the trick is in that case.
i think your initial suspicions were correct. something about when/how that shell spawns in got changed and now it's lower than it should be, making the level unclearable
quit ur bitchin about Mario wonder. There’s like 1,000 hours of Mario maker footage you can watch on this channel, and I think you’ll live if he takes a short break for once.
I wonder what the percentage of non-players watching Ryu is? Likely the majority. I picked it up because of him and Pangea. I quickly found out it is not as easy as they make it look. The regular levels aren't challenging at all but the Expert and Super Expert learning curve is far beyond me and my working for living life style haha. It's much more fun to watch them succeed than try myself I learned lol
I'm also a non-playing watcher, LoL 🤣 I've played #smm1 or #smm2, but I love watching both ryu and dgr play! I started with dgr then found ryu, and now he's my absolute favorite hands down go-to TH-cam creator I watch.
The only thing I can think of with the third level which may be impossible is get to the vine somehow and wait for the shell to get to the top. That could stop the momentum needed to get by the rest of the Thwamps. It''s a crazy hot garbage level like the water level. If you get it right the Thwamptastic Blast level looks like fun.
At 8:52 instead of turn around and move back, maybe it is possible when taking damage at the piranha plant, and jump into the 2 og them, then could take the shell on the head, keep moving when mario is immortal for a while after taking damage again, so he drop the shell from the head, until a next shell to take on the head and keep moving same way again. If its possible to get the shells on the head the moment the shells are moved up. Strange kind of solution, abd i dont know it works. I self play a lots of other games i try to figure out to beat on a difficult way. But i havent played so much Mario.
After spending way too long looking at the clear video that was linked by a couple previous commenters, it seems like Ryu needs to do something differently at the beginning. In the clear video, they bounce off the first Goomba further to the right than Ryu, which then lets them bounce off of that one shell a little bit higher up and just barely avoid taking damage. So Ryu needs to somehow get a bit more distance on the first jump and it should set him up to make the rest of the jumps. No idea how to do that though
Other commenters have established that the Thwomp level was uploaded after the last known update to the game, but I also notice that the searchable level database put together sometime between the end of new uploads (3/31/22) and mid-August '22 only shows two clears, whereas the game itself now shows three. A new clear more than three years after uploading makes it pretty unlikely it was just someone who knows the creator and was in on the secret, though of course that's still possible. It also makes it unlikely that Nintendo made some stealthy change that rendered the level impossible-if they did, you'd think they would do it at the same time they shut down new uploads, not afterwards.
Regarding the thwomp-level, could the cannon at the end shoot out fireflowers (or something else that works out)? Not an smm player so not sure if it's possible or not.
Yes it could have, and he didn't check it in the editor. It was loaded with something instead of Bullet Bills so who knows? But getting past all the piranha flowers at the end would be near impossible to pull off. I think Ryu could have done it, but the cannon was probably loaded with coins.
Yeah, he made it over the thwomp but the turn back made him not have enough momentum to clear the first muncher. If you put it on .25x it's very clear he killed the piranha plant with a fireball and the hit was from not clearing the muncher below it.
The only thing I can think of is, why is there a down arrow at the beginning of the Thwomp level? Maybe your supposed to go down at the first gap or one of the gaps? I’m sure you’ll figure it out.
That Thwomptastic level seems like controlled jumps which is bogus because the maker had to know the pattern of when letting go of jump would line the shells up. The typical oversight of how fair is this level to a player who has to first try it?
Not sure why no one tried just searching the level on youtube but there is a video from 6 years ago of someone beating it. Looks like yhe shells are im the same place he just males it, cant tell if he's doing anything or it just for some reason works but he definitely just jumped and fireballed everything like it would seem you are suppose to.
The only reason that may not be a failed run is because the Thwomptastic level may actually be impossible (some patch may be to blame), and skipping impossible levels is fine. But, if it isn’t impossible, then this run is a complete and total failure.
@ryukahr would love a revisit to this level, and agree with this poster! Why would that down arrow be on the left at the beginning of not for a reason? I believe you need to start the run hitting the first shell when it's on its way down, in the position where the arrow on the left is, about 2/3rds of the way down?
Hi! bout this twomp level, is it possible to change where the helmet starts on its track in thz editor, in order to have a good alignment? I'm with @JKLMomof3, something looks patched.
Hey Ryu, I originally posted this under your last SMM video, but I want to be sure you read it: Hey Ryu, have you heard about Team 0%? An effort to clear SMM from uncleared levels. Now more important than ever. I would watch hours of you clearing uncleared levels!
That unsolvable muncher bouncing level definitely seems like "it broke" somewhere in the MM timeline. Super odd, though; doesn't seem like you could say "Oh, yeah... it's definitely a mid-air, P-switch jump tech that got patched out". There's like ZERO nanz! Huh. 🤔
@@mr.maxwell4955 I don't know if there are any SMW powerups that are "low tier," but a skilled player can use the cape to skip huge portions of a level if the creator isn't careful.
I have an idea. The level was uploaded in 2018, so no updates changed tracks. Something changed one value: the direction of that shell on the track. An SEU (single event upset) could have flipped the bit that determins up vs down, making the level unclearable. If you flip the direction of the item on the track and the level becomes winnable, it means that a cosmic ray or nuclear reaction flipped that one specific bit in the Nintendo servers! It could have happened at any point after upload. A track is one-dimensional, so you only need one bit to determine direction.
There's absolutely no way since any half-decent engineer would include a type of checksum for the level to ensure the data is intact before loading. And that's at the software level, at the hardware level they still have data protection and redundancy which would prevent this from happening. Cosmic rays are super long shot in RAM, but in storage they are essentially impossible. Your hypothesis wouldn't work at upload time either, since the level uploads both its checksum and the data.
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after getting on top of that level there is a piranha on top of a beetle that you could grab with I frames to kill the next few plants, although I guess that can't explode the bobomb at the end
Hey Ryu love all your videos and have watched them for years
So, my husband and I have a theory on the thwomp level. We seem to recall them changing what was globally loaded. If the level was created and the shells on tracks were globally loaded, then the shell would be in a different position than if they changed shells on tracks to be locally loaded.
You’re totally right. It’s probably the 2.0 update that changed how the shells loaded. You can see them all start at the same point even when it looks totally illogical to do that.
Totally stupid that they would change something in the game logic and apply it globally even to old levels...
@@cube2foxActually, at the end of the vido (like 23-24 min) he shows that the level was uploaded in 2018. I really do wonder what the trick is in that case.
I was thinking the same thing
Tracks are just inherently jank. That's why top kaizo creators no longer use them.
If you're curious, at 16:24 the coins were shaped like 人生 (jinsei) wich means life in Japanese
So cool!
Thanks for translating!
i think your initial suspicions were correct. something about when/how that shell spawns in got changed and now it's lower than it should be, making the level unclearable
Mario wonder is great, but nothing is better than watching Ryu suffer through the hottest of hot garbage. ❤
I was worried he was going to take a long break from SMM with the release of Wonder but thankfully I was wrong.
@@jonbourgoin182he's addicted. Like we are to his content.
@@robertonbingleron4352I think he might be doing smm1 to make as many videos as he can before it closes.
I like watching Ryu succeed.
If you want to watch high quality suffering, DGR screams in agony on the regular.
I feed on his pain.
quit ur bitchin about Mario wonder. There’s like 1,000 hours of Mario maker footage you can watch on this channel, and I think you’ll live if he takes a short break for once.
That cape save was epic
Maybe the vine at the top to stall on that shell? In the thwomp levek
I’ve never played super mario maker but I enjoy watching your videos!
I wonder what the percentage of non-players watching Ryu is? Likely the majority.
I picked it up because of him and Pangea. I quickly found out it is not as easy as they make it look. The regular levels aren't challenging at all but the Expert and Super Expert learning curve is far beyond me and my working for living life style haha. It's much more fun to watch them succeed than try myself I learned lol
Same here man
I'm also a non-playing watcher, LoL 🤣 I've played #smm1 or #smm2, but I love watching both ryu and dgr play! I started with dgr then found ryu, and now he's my absolute favorite hands down go-to TH-cam creator I watch.
I almost never watch people play games that I personally play. I am currently playing Wonder and haven't watched any content on it.
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The only thing I can think of with the third level which may be impossible is get to the vine somehow and wait for the shell to get to the top. That could stop the momentum needed to get by the rest of the Thwamps. It''s a crazy hot garbage level like the water level. If you get it right the Thwamptastic Blast level looks like fun.
I dont think holding the vine until the shell is high enough would give him the momentum to get to the next shell.
At 8:52 instead of turn around and move back, maybe it is possible when taking damage at the piranha plant, and jump into the 2 og them, then could take the shell on the head, keep moving when mario is immortal for a while after taking damage again, so he drop the shell from the head, until a next shell to take on the head and keep moving same way again. If its possible to get the shells on the head the moment the shells are moved up. Strange kind of solution, abd i dont know it works. I self play a lots of other games i try to figure out to beat on a difficult way. But i havent played so much Mario.
There is a fire flower check at the end (bomb holding a cannon) so not posible
We need a follow up vid on the Thomp stage
After spending way too long looking at the clear video that was linked by a couple previous commenters, it seems like Ryu needs to do something differently at the beginning. In the clear video, they bounce off the first Goomba further to the right than Ryu, which then lets them bounce off of that one shell a little bit higher up and just barely avoid taking damage.
So Ryu needs to somehow get a bit more distance on the first jump and it should set him up to make the rest of the jumps. No idea how to do that though
Other commenters have established that the Thwomp level was uploaded after the last known update to the game, but I also notice that the searchable level database put together sometime between the end of new uploads (3/31/22) and mid-August '22 only shows two clears, whereas the game itself now shows three. A new clear more than three years after uploading makes it pretty unlikely it was just someone who knows the creator and was in on the secret, though of course that's still possible. It also makes it unlikely that Nintendo made some stealthy change that rendered the level impossible-if they did, you'd think they would do it at the same time they shut down new uploads, not afterwards.
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After every update they should force level creators to clear their levels again to confirm it still works as is.
If not it doesn't go live
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1:56 that was epic!!
You did at 8:21 while turning Mario to the left.
Hope we can see a Ryuvenge on this Level. 😊
Agreed!
But if you turn left to avoid the thwomp, you lose momentum and can't make it to the next shell
what if holding down pertains only to the first shell jump? then the rest are regular jump
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13:30 what about grabbing the vines??
8:17 run got over the jank thwomp
Starting the video with a random grunting noise: automatic smash the like button
8:21 You managed to not hit the thwomp, but the muncher got you instead 👀
Nice catch. He managed to make it over.
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I think it's because you activate the thwomp and die because he gets that few pixels up! If you dont activate him, it may work
5:30 ryu just decides to pull a swag move outta nowhere; classic ryu shenanigans
8:17 a blast in where???
Yeah that was a poor choice of wording
Can you land on the shell and not the the thwomp at the end and still make it to the Paranas?
Try grapping the vine until it lines I think 13:40
just grab that vine and take your time to pass the thwomp.
Regarding the thwomp-level, could the cannon at the end shoot out fireflowers (or something else that works out)? Not an smm player so not sure if it's possible or not.
Yes it could have, and he didn't check it in the editor. It was loaded with something instead of Bullet Bills so who knows? But getting past all the piranha flowers at the end would be near impossible to pull off. I think Ryu could have done it, but the cannon was probably loaded with coins.
@ryukahr it looks to me like you actually actually succeeded in making the jump at 8:22 and then get hit right afterward. What do you guys think?
Yeah, he made it over the thwomp but the turn back made him not have enough momentum to clear the first muncher. If you put it on .25x it's very clear he killed the piranha plant with a fireball and the hit was from not clearing the muncher below it.
Also at like 25:25 he does the same thing while in the editor with a smaller turn back, but still doesn't clear the 2nd muncher.
The only thing I can think of is, why is there a down arrow at the beginning of the Thwomp level? Maybe your supposed to go down at the first gap or one of the gaps?
I’m sure you’ll figure it out.
It means to duck jump at the beginning
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@ryukahr Do u still use a Wii U pro controller?
At 18:05 you sound exactly like the film producer 😂
Maybe a slight patch made to thwomp awareness?
Hey ryu, when they shutdown service for mario maker 1, will you play more smw kaizo for me? That would be amazing. I miss you playing kaizo.
A successful video, I say!!!
Thank you so much for giving us some MM1 action!
Hold the vines and time.your jumps
What happened to life 95?
I'm surprised that the precision cape level didn't have a disgustingly tight timer.
That Thwomptastic level seems like controlled jumps which is bogus because the maker had to know the pattern of when letting go of jump would line the shells up. The typical oversight of how fair is this level to a player who has to first try it?
think u were supposed to use the vines, but i'm no expert
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Not sure why no one tried just searching the level on youtube but there is a video from 6 years ago of someone beating it. Looks like yhe shells are im the same place he just males it, cant tell if he's doing anything or it just for some reason works but he definitely just jumped and fireballed everything like it would seem you are suppose to.
Seconding many of the comments here about using vines as a possible workaround, and a patch change maybe changing when the shell gets loaded.
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Can you do a high jump on the shell before to give time for it to come up higher?
Maybe you had to grab a vine just before that jank thwomp to help with the timing of the shell...I don't know man that level was ass
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You forgot to look at the blocks of 1:02 :).
You cleared the thwomp at 8:22 by looking to your left. Beatable
He mentioned it at the end, that makes you miss the next shell due to reduced momentum.
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Try using the beetle to get further on thwomp blast and then still get stuck on bomb part
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Can you do something with the vines on top? Im sus, why put them there?
When the thumbnail doesnt match the description
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The angry wigglers remind me of some levels Uberhaxornova played when he used to play super Mario maker lol
The only reason that may not be a failed run is because the Thwomptastic level may actually be impossible (some patch may be to blame), and skipping impossible levels is fine. But, if it isn’t impossible, then this run is a complete and total failure.
have you tried 12 midairs?
Crazy how one little change can make a masterpiece level seem like hot garbage,i would say its prob something that got patched long ago
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When you get to the shell that has to come up, try waiting on the vine first for a bit?
I noticed the vines above the Jank part. Maybe you are supposed to hang on one of those vines to line up the jump and go from there?
The shell level... i think the thing on the left was supposed to communicate when to jump. Like when the shell is at that position on its way down
@ryukahr would love a revisit to this level, and agree with this poster! Why would that down arrow be on the left at the beginning of not for a reason? I believe you need to start the run hitting the first shell when it's on its way down, in the position where the arrow on the left is, about 2/3rds of the way down?
@@hxcmetal right i think it was a hint from the level creator :)
@@hxcmetal
It was likely just to tell you to duck jump...
Thwomptastic = GLD
The way I beat the thwonptastic level was by grabbing the vine that was literally right there. Lol
You should upload a video of you clearing the level
How would you get momentum quickly again after dropping off the vine?
Yeah. Let's see that video first you beating that garbage and then you can brag. Until then the LOL is on your face boi.😂
Hi! bout this twomp level, is it possible to change where the helmet starts on its track in thz editor, in order to have a good alignment? I'm with @JKLMomof3, something looks patched.
Hey Ryu, I originally posted this under your last SMM video, but I want to be sure you read it:
Hey Ryu, have you heard about Team 0%? An effort to clear SMM from uncleared levels. Now more important than ever. I would watch hours of you clearing uncleared levels!
He will never read this. You're better off trying to tweet at him
He said in a livestream that he has no intention of clearing uncleared levels. Do your reps, fool.
He actually gets first clears in this pretty regularly now, so I’d say he’s doing his part 👍
That level was so jank 😂
That unsolvable muncher bouncing level definitely seems like "it broke" somewhere in the MM timeline. Super odd, though; doesn't seem like you could say "Oh, yeah... it's definitely a mid-air, P-switch jump tech that got patched out". There's like ZERO nanz! Huh. 🤔
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I think the jank is in the direction of the shells spawn.
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@@jdotoz is the mushroom and fire flower still high tier or are they low tier
@@mr.maxwell4955 I don't know if there are any SMW powerups that are "low tier," but a skilled player can use the cape to skip huge portions of a level if the creator isn't careful.
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I have an idea. The level was uploaded in 2018, so no updates changed tracks. Something changed one value: the direction of that shell on the track. An SEU (single event upset) could have flipped the bit that determins up vs down, making the level unclearable. If you flip the direction of the item on the track and the level becomes winnable, it means that a cosmic ray or nuclear reaction flipped that one specific bit in the Nintendo servers! It could have happened at any point after upload. A track is one-dimensional, so you only need one bit to determine direction.
There's absolutely no way since any half-decent engineer would include a type of checksum for the level to ensure the data is intact before loading. And that's at the software level, at the hardware level they still have data protection and redundancy which would prevent this from happening. Cosmic rays are super long shot in RAM, but in storage they are essentially impossible.
Your hypothesis wouldn't work at upload time either, since the level uploads both its checksum and the data.
It would be so funny if that were the case.
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the problem is u dont have to do duck jump all away , only on the first jump this makes the different
No, once you hit that spring at the start you can't unduck.
I think if you move the shells’ position on the track you could hit them while they’re at the top of the track instead of the bottom.
In the thwomp level you made it past that one thwomp once or twice early on
Just here for the garbage. Does that make me a raccoon?
How dare you skip imposible.levels
Have you tried holding R or L? In Mario Maker 2 when you hold R or L in this mode Mario's jumps change.
On the thwomp level, there are small vines, one at the section you take damage. I think you should grab that vine, jump shoot and keep going.
So what, we need to see you finish that level 😅
what's up with the vines?
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Im glad you skip bullshit levels
This man didn't rescue the princess properly with a mushroom
For the thwomp level-
Any chance you could grab a vine until the shell is in position?
Can’t you just grab the vine near the out of place shell and wait for it to be in position?