Bloody hell. The transformation in technology of these races over the last 4 decades is insane. Just go back and watch footage from the 1983 competition. It's like they're a completely different class of boat!
@@Jimmy-Legs I mean in the sense of technology in a specific competition. F1 cars today look completely different to F1 cars of the 70s. Are they a completely different class of car? No. The regulations just changed. If regulation changes mean a different class to you, then make that argument. But F1 vehicles as a *class* are different to cars in WRC, NASCAR and Formula E.
I'm not sure I agree. People have been exprimenting with Bernoulli's principles applied below the waterline for at least four decades, and carbon fiber sails have been around for two. It took a long time for ballast to be thought of as obsolete. These boats are miraculous, but their compartmentalized development almost perfectly mimics the inefficiency of radical capitalism.
@@marclawson2536 I'm pretty unhappy with the long term trajectory of capitalism (radical or not), but I would like to understand your analogy better. I'm not at all clear about what you mean.
The transition from sailing to flying is stunning. Watching the footage, I'm wondering if the hull shapes changed again to create a lifting body wing shape. This would then give you ground effect lift off the water. Of course hydrofoils would remain necessary.
From what I've read, that was explored but the drag was too high. So the focus is on reducing the drag of the hull in the air and reducing leeward air turbulence in tack.
True. Most people have NO idea what it means to do 40 or 50 knots on water - even most people that have access to a motor boat don't go this fast. Doing it in boats this size on the open ocean and under SAIL power is just extreme on all counts!
I remember watching America's Cup races 30-40 years ago at 2 or 3 o'clock in the morning because they were in Australia or New Zealand, and it was other worldly watching those big boat tacking back and forth and seeing the crews at work......again, live from the other side of the world, late, late at night here in the U.S. AC75s are amazingly cool to look at and watch....for a few minutes.......but the magic of the America's Cup is long gone.
Modern progress. If we never moved forward with technology we would still have a person holding a red flag walking in front of our car. Not forgetting our lungs could be sucked out.
Like with a lot of things, when you really let engineering dominate, the sports side of things kinda gets lost. The balance is important. As much as its cool to see bigger, better and faster, it's just as important to see the skill side of the game, without the skill being such an obvious part of it all, they as well just make it in a video game engine and have ai race around.
There are plenty of great monohull sailing competitions. Just like Formula 1, America's Cup have pushed the technology to the limit again and again. This is fascinating in itself, but that's not necessarily where the most exciting racing is.
@@LeifurThor-qu2bzBecause of the English language. Besides that, a submarine still floats. Which raises a question: Is an hot air balloon or blimp a boat, because it is floating in air?🤔 Regardless of semantics, AC75 are still watercraft.
Many years ago much of the draw to open wheel auto racing was watching the driver ply his trade. Now you catch a glimpse of the top of a helmet This seems to me much the same. These modern boats are giant F-1 racers of the sea.
And it's difficult to tell if you're watching F1 or a PC game. Not very interesting. As someone else pointed out, what happens when AI gets included? This is a totally different sport. Far more fun watching people leaping around a big boat!
Well, as in all racing you try to go as fast as you can. Beauty follows function here, If those old 12m boats were so great (which they were at that time) why are they not still leading cup races?
Interesting that the foils are posititioned by battery driven electric motors. So why have cyclors? Why not have them also replaced by battery driven electric motors?
@@sparkplugbarrens That's the hydraulic system, implemented separately by each team, for controlling the sails. Those hydraulic pumps are indeed driven mechanically, by humans pedalling. There is another (much more powerful) hydraulic system for raising and lowering the foils, controlling rudder rake and the foil flaps, whose pumps are driven by electric motors, which in turn are driven by batteries. The latter system was engineered by TNZ in conjunction with the challenger of record last Cup, and identical systems are provided by the defender, complete and ready to fit to the boat, for all teams.
Riding bikes to power the batteries that provide the pump with electricity that powers the hydraulics. Doesn't really sound like wind powered sailing anymore.
You guys don't get it. Everything is still manual and you have to generate little electricity you need by cycling. The whole idea is manual sailing, be it with one or ten crew. The idea is keep innovating until two people can do it manually.
So, given that the amount of sail power is huge, why not create that electricity from a generator propeller? I appreciate that adds drag. But carrying four extra people @75kg each, plus the hull needed to contain them, who are basically just 400W batteries (and that’s maximum), how is that economic? To drive a yacht at that speed on motors would take maybe 500kW.
Exactly this. Removing that ‘human interaction’ has removed a large element of interest in the sport. We’re no longer watching sportsmen; we’re no longer learning from them, judging them; we’re just watching boats on the water…
I remember watching the cup races many years ago and seeing what the boats evolved into is a terrible shame. The craft were beautiful under sail and was very exciting to watch the boat and crew members working as one. The new generation boats have lost that feeling totally, the beauty is gone.
I think these boats should be limited to battery operated lights and communications, no computers no lifting foils with electro-hydrolic rams. This race needs to be a human sport.
Laughing at those missing the “old boats”. Americas cup was always about progressing new designs. Old boats are still out there if you need them. But this is just amazing technology and great for the sport. I’m an ex National sailing champion so I have some knowledge in the game 🤷
Crews should have viewing via thier helmets plastic visors like fighter pilots.On board micro cameras could then relay information to the crew without them moving until they need to move to make a adjustments.
Hmm - one more thing to go wrong, and potentially quite distracting. It seems to me like something you would only do if the current displays were significantly deficient in usability. As to cameras, they're already using them where it makes sense to do so. There are lots of advantages to the human eye in dynamic situations, not least being that your brain is in real-time control of where the eye is looking, and at what level of intensity (eg filtering out distractions).
In fact, all sailing is flying. The sail is a wing and it generates lift, which is why sailing boats can travel at speeds higher than that of the wind.
Wow, it's so different since I watched this in the early 1990s. I had to go back yet another 32 years to see if it was a similar jump in tech, but honestly the ~1970 vs. ~1992 boats were not hugely different (though I'm sure anyone actually familiar with the tech involved would assure me that's a very ignorant thing for me to say; that's usually how these things work anyway haha).
So it has wings and flies , when does a "boat" become a plane? Seems to me we are here. These are more of a cross type of thing. Half boat half plane. Really cool "thing though".
1 day they will have hydraulic robot arms for the crew and a smart. AI computer navigating End piloting the boat. That way, everyday sailors can use boats like this to travel around the world.With a full cabin down belo.
The fundamental difference is simply the almost complete elimination of fluid drag. The hull of any boat is an enormous impediment to its motion. Lifting it completely out of the water, leaving only idealized lifting surfaces, is really the only basic difference.
The continuous hollowing out of sport is a tragedy. Soulless bicycle race. I remember Ted Turner screaming orders to his crew and the furious winch cranking and riding the edge of the wind on a heel. And that was sailing.
Sorry to see the pursuit of speed thru technology being more important than knowledge and skill. Miss the days of sparring for position riding the wave peaks going downwind with spinnakers up! Nothing like it!!!
Why is this ridiculous? If it isn't sailing what is it? Hang gliding? I see it is being powered by sails in the wind? Hmmm..... What are we gonna call this? Watercraft Levitation? Boat Foiling? Doesn't change the way they race. It's a sailboat race.
How do trimmers deal with wind shear? From what I've seen of ac 75s there isn't enough space to set up the different twist you'd require from one tack to the other? Thanks in advance.
I'm sure the trimmer has the full complement of standard sail controls. In addition, the D-shaped rotating mast and the double skinned mainsail need tending.
@markfisher7962 that is the point they haven't. Have you dealt with wind shear on a yacht? I'd suggest that you haven't. A rotating mast is zero help in a wind shear. To deal with wind shear you need to increase or decrease twist in the sail. Because of the coriolis effect, it will vary from tack to tack. Look it up.
@@davidbroadley2983 Differential wind speed certainly requires sail twist to get most efficiency, but coriolis isn't in it. To control it, Cunningham, sheet, and traveler need careful attention. Here's a good discussion of AC75 sail and mast rigging. (Fun fact: no backstays!): th-cam.com/video/IUJPhMX9rAs/w-d-xo.htmlsi=v3MPEv8ndUnuR2ud
The captain is now called a flight director fgs. Sorry, but I’m not remotely interested in this kind of ‘sailing’. Hats off for the technology but give me a 12 knot monohull any day of the week.
You guys don't get it. Everything is still manual and you have to generate little electricity you need by cycling. The whole idea is manual sailing, be it with one or ten crew. The idea is keep innovating until two people can do it manually.
It's boring. You have to be intensely interested in the tech side to find these boats interesting as a spectator and be less interested in the human side eg watching the helmsmen. Which most people aren't. You don't get that part.
Back then we called it real sailing. Bring back the old times. Then you can have fake flying off and on water. should have a jet plane flu low and touch water win they took a piss. Not realing sailing!!!! good luck. Poor ole Ted Turner is rolling in his grave. RIP Ted And RIP real sailing!!
They have taken the challenge of navigating and battling the. …WAVES.. .. out of the equation…. And that was the whole point of sailing on the open seas Wind and Waves … Sailing isn’t supposed to be just a breeze….. to sail . And be on the right wavelength in the water .. .. lol. The need for speed has taken over …
The foil arms are electric motor and battery powered as they are too heavy to be lifted by crew power, everything else is hydraulic and the hydraulic fluid pressure is provided by the cyclor guys who are pedaling hydraulic pumps.
@@ats-3693 Thanks for that. I thought the whole of it was hydraulic, had to be human-powered. Now I see they ARE using supplementary power...and getting busted for 'programmed sailing' by letting a computer steer the boat!
@@jthepickle7 Yeah even in the previous America's Cup the foils arms were battery powered, because the foil arms are so heavy there is no way they can lift them by crew power alone so when that style of boat was designed and introduced they also made some changes to the regulations allowing the teams to have an allowed amount of stored battery energy on board to use to lift the foils only, that's the only stored energy they are allowed, apart from I assume small batteries that power the handheld electronic controllers they use to control the hydraulic systems that trim the sails etc, everything else other than the foil arms has to be crew powered. I'm not sure on the computer controlled steering you mention I haven't read anything on that.
@@ats-3693 Oh. So only stored energy for this, but not for whole...save for computer-fare. What taken up by dumb power; winches and such, matters not. I get it. Though, in past, a boat race was won by splinters and threads, by last fibers of musculature...and chance. It matters not at present when men belong but to the back of the line, behind hydraulics and sparking silica. And, God help, anyone should stub their toe or get wet.
@@jthepickle7 Yeah it's definitely different now like a lot of things in our lives, the world is changing, I enjoyed watching the old single hull yachts too but I still enjoy watching the new style foiling boats race, as much as I liked the old style yachts and course racing I wouldn't say that I feel any grief about the changes, I personally find the technology fascinating. But then I'm not a sailing or boating person I guess for those who are and have been for a long time it would be different.
The technology is amazing, but I miss real sailing. How soon will the crew be replaced by radio control racing. Just like F-1 the driver is only working the wheel and pedals, and the pit crew does all the adjustments .
Alotta old heads getting all triggered about progress. My only concern is of the grinders just being powerplants for an electronic system. The beauty of sailing is that it is fully mechanical. Its the same deal as electric shifters on bikes
I'm sure that the people that sail, build, rig, and maintain the boats run the gamut of incomes, and I bet that most of them really enjoy what they do. Look at it! Everything isn't about money.
@@johnmcmahon5225great point! There are dozens to hundreds of manufacturers supplying the materials that go into the construction of these boats and I would imagine there are positive economic impacts to businesses where the events take place.
2:28 - Tell me, please, why on Earth you would select "Comic Sans" font. Is it intentionally designed to make people hate you? Because when you use Comic Sans, you upset an awful of people, no matter your intention. This is no joke. There is only one rule in typography: If you think Comic Sans might be appropriate - you are always wrong.
not interested in sailing, but every now and then look at the Americas Cup 'boats' to see high tech innovation....don't understand the strategies or race intricacies....but learning something about this is amazing. flying not sailing as they say.
The tech is amazing , don’t get me wrong, but it’s does not do it for me, we lost something. Hit the reset button, go back to a modernized version of 1934 J-Class ( new hull’s material and rigging, same design) or VOR70s designs with as little tech as possible.. May the best crew win! 🏆 classics racing ( 12-15 knots), brawns, tactics and crew.
is it even sailing anymore? it is really more like flying, right? computers and pressing buttons? pedaling in place? Sitting still in a small cockpits? it is more like a plane skimming the waves what always irks me about america's cup is that despite it being sponsored by the biggest and richest luxury companies in the world, there are obnoxious ads EVERYWHERE even over the effing waves nowadays, shameful...
The more you remove the human element of sport and replace it with technology at a certain point it removes what people love about sport. Next these will be controlled like a drone with someone on shore drinking a rum and coke! Please go back about 30-40 years with active crews, and sail changes seeing people solving problems and working together on deck in full view! Until then…. BORING!
I have not understand a single word. All this is words of boats, which i am not familiar. Can you explain slowly, what is a cyclorr, how the cycling impact energy on the boat, where is energy stored, how many energy, what are the controls of the sails, how interaction with rhe wind and the foils.... So, explanations about all is needed.
The cyclors pressurize the hydraulic system that moved the sails. The system is small so they need to constantly keep the power up since the sails are always moving.
The cycles pressurize a hydraulic 'bladder'. The helmsman pushes buttons. The announcers provide the sole 'entertainment' remaining in sailing. Got it?
Bloody hell. The transformation in technology of these races over the last 4 decades is insane. Just go back and watch footage from the 1983 competition. It's like they're a completely different class of boat!
They literally are a different class of boat.
@@Jimmy-Legs I mean in the sense of technology in a specific competition. F1 cars today look completely different to F1 cars of the 70s. Are they a completely different class of car? No. The regulations just changed. If regulation changes mean a different class to you, then make that argument. But F1 vehicles as a *class* are different to cars in WRC, NASCAR and Formula E.
I'm not sure I agree. People have been exprimenting with Bernoulli's principles applied below the waterline for at least four decades, and carbon fiber sails have been around for two. It took a long time for ballast to be thought of as obsolete. These boats are miraculous, but their compartmentalized development almost perfectly mimics the inefficiency of radical capitalism.
Note the terminology that they are using ...
They're no longer sailing.
They are now "flying" the boats.
@@marclawson2536 I'm pretty unhappy with the long term trajectory of capitalism (radical or not), but I would like to understand your analogy better. I'm not at all clear about what you mean.
What the hell!? They actually have people in the cycling to generate power!? That's nuts! I'd have never thought that. 😮
Big Thanks to Yanmar for delivering this really good insight! Proud to find you in the sponsor list!
The transition from sailing to flying is stunning. Watching the footage, I'm wondering if the hull shapes changed again to create a lifting body wing shape. This would then give you ground effect lift off the water. Of course hydrofoils would remain necessary.
From what I've read, that was explored but the drag was too high. So the focus is on reducing the drag of the hull in the air and reducing leeward air turbulence in tack.
I've had dreams where that was possible.
The shot at 6:53 really shows the sense of velocity these sailing boats can achieve.
True. Most people have NO idea what it means to do 40 or 50 knots on water - even most people that have access to a motor boat don't go this fast. Doing it in boats this size on the open ocean and under SAIL power is just extreme on all counts!
I miss the spinnakers going up and down
Passion for obsolete technology is what gives me hope for the future.
Incredible, really like this AC class!
I remember watching America's Cup races 30-40 years ago at 2 or 3 o'clock in the morning because they were in Australia or New Zealand, and it was other worldly watching those big boat tacking back and forth and seeing the crews at work......again, live from the other side of the world, late, late at night here in the U.S. AC75s are amazingly cool to look at and watch....for a few minutes.......but the magic of the America's Cup is long gone.
Obviously you have no idea what you are talking about!
Modern progress. If we never moved forward with technology we would still have a person holding a red flag walking in front of our car. Not forgetting our lungs could be sucked out.
it's turned into Formula 1 racing now. Boring
Like with a lot of things, when you really let engineering dominate, the sports side of things kinda gets lost.
The balance is important. As much as its cool to see bigger, better and faster, it's just as important to see the skill side of the game, without the skill being such an obvious part of it all, they as well just make it in a video game engine and have ai race around.
Yup. As if this _yacht_ race wasn't enough of an exercise in ostentatious wastage, now they don't even have to use actual yachts! 🙄
Thanks for at great video with lots of interesting insight ;-)
They have turned sailing into a bike race
They need to produce their own source of power.. What better way than to utilise our strong leg muscles that produce the most power
I have more association with F1.
Weird. I still see a hull and sails and not a set of wheels to be seen anywhere.
the video explains the cycling systems on board for powering sail hydraulics.
clearly no idea what they are actually doing do you
They're ALWAYS "headed into" the wind, which continues to amaze me.
Just as long as you're not behind the guy peeing of the bow you'll be fine 😂
There are plenty of great monohull sailing competitions. Just like Formula 1, America's Cup have pushed the technology to the limit again and again.
This is fascinating in itself, but that's not necessarily where the most exciting racing is.
How long before the crew is gone . . .
How much of the hull touches the water in these “sailboats” when racing? So does “boat” apply?
There’s a reason they call it “flying the boat”.
They're called boats because when they come off the foils, they float...
@@madmacstoo-w7wwhy aren’t submarines called boats then?
@@LeifurThor-qu2bz They used to be: U-Boats.
@@LeifurThor-qu2bzBecause of the English language. Besides that, a submarine still floats. Which raises a question: Is an hot air balloon or blimp a boat, because it is floating in air?🤔
Regardless of semantics, AC75 are still watercraft.
Many years ago much of the draw to open wheel auto racing was watching the driver ply his trade. Now you catch a glimpse of the top of a helmet This seems to me much the same. These modern boats are giant F-1 racers of the sea.
And it's difficult to tell if you're watching F1 or a PC game. Not very interesting. As someone else pointed out, what happens when AI gets included? This is a totally different sport. Far more fun watching people leaping around a big boat!
Well, as in all racing you try to go as fast as you can. Beauty follows function here, If those old 12m boats were so great (which they were at that time) why are they not still leading cup races?
Absolutely fantastic tech.
Interesting that the foils are posititioned by battery driven electric motors. So why have cyclors? Why not have them also replaced by battery driven electric motors?
Thats how the AC40s are setup all battery driven.
I dont think its electric chemical batteries. I think its a hydraulic battery, charged by the cyclers
@@emptiester as someone else has posted>
The interviewee explicitly explained the hydraulic system. No battery just oil that's being pumped into a system. It's mechanical not electric.
@@sparkplugbarrens That's the hydraulic system, implemented separately by each team, for controlling the sails. Those hydraulic pumps are indeed driven mechanically, by humans pedalling. There is another (much more powerful) hydraulic system for raising and lowering the foils, controlling rudder rake and the foil flaps, whose pumps are driven by electric motors, which in turn are driven by batteries.
The latter system was engineered by TNZ in conjunction with the challenger of record last Cup, and identical systems are provided by the defender, complete and ready to fit to the boat, for all teams.
Riding bikes to power the batteries that provide the pump with electricity that powers the hydraulics.
Doesn't really sound like wind powered sailing anymore.
It’s not. Bring back 12 meter
In the old days they had capstans. Now it's hydraulics and batteries. Just do away with the crew and have autonomous sailing boats.
You guys don't get it. Everything is still manual and you have to generate little electricity you need by cycling. The whole idea is manual sailing, be it with one or ten crew. The idea is keep innovating until two people can do it manually.
So, given that the amount of sail power is huge, why not create that electricity from a generator propeller? I appreciate that adds drag. But carrying four extra people @75kg each, plus the hull needed to contain them, who are basically just 400W batteries (and that’s maximum), how is that economic? To drive a yacht at that speed on motors would take maybe 500kW.
Men cranking the winches and pulling the ropes. Doesn’t really sound like wind power to me. LOL.
With none of the crew visible it really has lost something. It might as well be remote controlled .
It will be at some point- humans are a liability and added weight
Exactly this. Removing that ‘human interaction’ has removed a large element of interest in the sport.
We’re no longer watching sportsmen; we’re no longer learning from them, judging them; we’re just watching boats on the water…
I believe it’s a lot more like soaring or gliding where the pilot isn’t working physically hard, but mentally they are.
It was always lame, as something to watch
Insane how sailing changed... and computers can alter these sails autonomously...
I remember watching the cup races many years ago and seeing what the boats evolved into is a terrible shame. The craft were beautiful under sail and was very exciting to watch the boat and crew members working as one. The new generation boats have lost that feeling totally, the beauty is gone.
As an open-water sailer, I disagree strongly the teamwork on the AC75 is truly at a next-level and it has to be due to the speed they are getting.
As with most everything time moves everything on. They still have sailing races all over of the kind you’re missing. This is just top of the game!
That was amazingly informative and interesting.
I remember when it was just the name of the ship and the country of origin. No sponsors blasted all over the haul and sails.
this is so cool
I think these boats should be limited to battery operated lights and communications, no computers no lifting foils with electro-hydrolic rams. This race needs to be a human sport.
Who's entering the first AI team?
Laughing at those missing the “old boats”. Americas cup was always about progressing new designs. Old boats are still out there if you need them. But this is just amazing technology and great for the sport. I’m an ex National sailing champion so I have some knowledge in the game 🤷
Holy moly, they aren’t even in the water.
How fast do these sail boats get upto?
I miss the old boats
Endeavor
Watching the new boats becoming helpless lumps stranded in the water running out of time if the wind drops to 6 knots is a bit dispiriting.
please bring back the beauty of the 12 meter mono hull boats...speed isn't everything
...terrible idea.
Yes it is, its a race
But it's not sailing anymore. The crew is on just to make sure the computer doesn't mess up.@@72waverly
I would love to bring back the 12 meter boats- Maybe 2 different classes?
Very true
the fact the whole boat floats on a tiny piece of carbon fibre is just pure magic
as a mech warrior player AC 75s sound boomphy
Crews should have viewing via thier helmets plastic visors like fighter pilots.On board micro cameras could then relay information to the crew without them moving until they need to move to make a adjustments.
Hmm - one more thing to go wrong, and potentially quite distracting. It seems to me like something you would only do if the current displays were significantly deficient in usability.
As to cameras, they're already using them where it makes sense to do so. There are lots of advantages to the human eye in dynamic situations, not least being that your brain is in real-time control of where the eye is looking, and at what level of intensity (eg filtering out distractions).
In fact, all sailing is flying. The sail is a wing and it generates lift, which is why sailing boats can travel at speeds higher than that of the wind.
Thank you!
Wow, it's so different since I watched this in the early 1990s. I had to go back yet another 32 years to see if it was a similar jump in tech, but honestly the ~1970 vs. ~1992 boats were not hugely different (though I'm sure anyone actually familiar with the tech involved would assure me that's a very ignorant thing for me to say; that's usually how these things work anyway haha).
They fly like space ships :D
So graceful.
The Cup has 'jumped the shark'.
I remember 'sailing' my sabot, when did it change to 'flying' ?
Closer to a plane than a ship!
If they can use batteries to lift the foils, why not just use batteries for everything?
Seems like half in half out with traditional sailing.
Why have crew on the boat?
Why have sails?
Seems to me it's an abitrary choice, no matter where you slice it.
So it has wings and flies , when does a "boat" become a plane? Seems to me we are here. These are more of a cross type of thing. Half boat half plane. Really cool "thing though".
1 day they will have hydraulic robot arms for the crew and a smart. AI computer navigating End piloting the boat. That way, everyday sailors can use boats like this to travel around the world.With a full cabin down belo.
The fundamental difference is simply the almost complete elimination of fluid drag. The hull of any boat is an enormous impediment to its motion. Lifting it completely out of the water, leaving only idealized lifting surfaces, is really the only basic difference.
Just make the hull transparant
The continuous hollowing out of sport is a tragedy. Soulless bicycle race.
I remember Ted Turner screaming orders to his crew and the furious winch cranking and riding the edge of the wind on a heel. And that was sailing.
Well, if youre racing, you want to go as fast as you can. If the old boats were better why are they not winning the cup.
Plenty of monohull racing series for your consumption
Sorry to see the pursuit of speed thru technology being more important than knowledge and skill. Miss the days of sparring for position riding the wave peaks going downwind with spinnakers up! Nothing like it!!!
I too loves the spinnakers up. It was beautiful. I'd rather watch sabots.
Its not like traditional sailboats dont still exist.
Knowledge and skill are still there. It’s just a different type of event. There are still plenty of classic sailing series to please other tastes.
There are other classes you can watch.
@@2WheelsGood.01not when it comes to the America's cup.
flying a boat is not sailing, watersports have got ridiculous
Why is this ridiculous? If it isn't sailing what is it? Hang gliding? I see it is being powered by sails in the wind? Hmmm..... What are we gonna call this? Watercraft Levitation? Boat Foiling? Doesn't change the way they race. It's a sailboat race.
How do trimmers deal with wind shear? From what I've seen of ac 75s there isn't enough space to set up the different twist you'd require from one tack to the other?
Thanks in advance.
I'm sure the trimmer has the full complement of standard sail controls. In addition, the D-shaped rotating mast and the double skinned mainsail need tending.
@markfisher7962 that is the point they haven't.
Have you dealt with wind shear on a yacht? I'd suggest that you haven't.
A rotating mast is zero help in a wind shear. To deal with wind shear you need to increase or decrease twist in the sail. Because of the coriolis effect, it will vary from tack to tack.
Look it up.
@@davidbroadley2983 Differential wind speed certainly requires sail twist to get most efficiency, but coriolis isn't in it. To control it, Cunningham, sheet, and traveler need careful attention. Here's a good discussion of AC75 sail and mast rigging. (Fun fact: no backstays!): th-cam.com/video/IUJPhMX9rAs/w-d-xo.htmlsi=v3MPEv8ndUnuR2ud
Is it really a boat though???
Те первые первопроходцы кто в древности приручил ветер , сегодня дались бы диву .
The captain is now called a flight director fgs. Sorry, but I’m not remotely interested in this kind of ‘sailing’. Hats off for the technology but give me a 12 knot monohull any day of the week.
The hulls seem to be getting a bit clunkier
The tech is amazing... But are these really sailing boats???
I'm a sad, that they dont do the things underwater.
Not sailing. That's sitting.
If wind trust goring in perpendicular way
the legs have more work to do to balance this thing
You guys don't get it. Everything is still manual and you have to generate little electricity you need by cycling. The whole idea is manual sailing, be it with one or ten crew. The idea is keep innovating until two people can do it manually.
It's boring. You have to be intensely interested in the tech side to find these boats interesting as a spectator and be less interested in the human side eg watching the helmsmen. Which most people aren't. You don't get that part.
Sail away❤❤🎉🎉
Back then we called it real sailing. Bring back the old times. Then you can have fake flying off and on water. should have a jet plane flu low and touch water win they took a piss. Not realing sailing!!!! good luck. Poor ole Ted Turner is rolling in his grave. RIP Ted And RIP real sailing!!
If this isn't real sailing, what is it? Wishing the racing scene to go back in time, is like asking the military to only use WW1 weapons.
Those boats are spectacular, but I would prefer the America's Cup go back to monohulls.
This is NOT sailing, this is hydrofoiling. The definition of sailing is that the hull MUST be in contact with the water.
The playthings of the ultra rich.
They have taken the challenge of navigating and battling the. …WAVES.. .. out of the equation…. And that was the whole point of sailing on the open seas Wind and Waves … Sailing isn’t supposed to be just a breeze….. to sail . And be on the right wavelength in the water .. .. lol. The need for speed has taken over …
They are not yatchs anymore.
They are flying ships 🚢
How do I get this life ?
I did not really understand: What is battery driven and why?
The foil arms are electric motor and battery powered as they are too heavy to be lifted by crew power, everything else is hydraulic and the hydraulic fluid pressure is provided by the cyclor guys who are pedaling hydraulic pumps.
@@ats-3693 Thanks for that. I thought the whole of it was hydraulic, had to be human-powered. Now I see they ARE using supplementary power...and getting busted for 'programmed sailing' by letting a computer steer the boat!
@@jthepickle7 Yeah even in the previous America's Cup the foils arms were battery powered, because the foil arms are so heavy there is no way they can lift them by crew power alone so when that style of boat was designed and introduced they also made some changes to the regulations allowing the teams to have an allowed amount of stored battery energy on board to use to lift the foils only, that's the only stored energy they are allowed, apart from I assume small batteries that power the handheld electronic controllers they use to control the hydraulic systems that trim the sails etc, everything else other than the foil arms has to be crew powered. I'm not sure on the computer controlled steering you mention I haven't read anything on that.
@@ats-3693 Oh. So only stored energy for this, but not for whole...save for computer-fare. What taken up by dumb power; winches and such, matters not. I get it. Though, in past, a boat race was won by splinters and threads, by last fibers of musculature...and chance. It matters not at present when men belong but to the back of the line, behind hydraulics and sparking silica. And, God help, anyone should stub their toe or get wet.
@@jthepickle7 Yeah it's definitely different now like a lot of things in our lives, the world is changing, I enjoyed watching the old single hull yachts too but I still enjoy watching the new style foiling boats race, as much as I liked the old style yachts and course racing I wouldn't say that I feel any grief about the changes, I personally find the technology fascinating. But then I'm not a sailing or boating person I guess for those who are and have been for a long time it would be different.
Less face, more boat
The technology is amazing, but I miss real sailing. How soon will the crew be replaced by radio control racing. Just like F-1 the driver is only working the wheel and pedals, and the pit crew does all the adjustments .
The wheel has 50 buttons on it, they are not all turn-signals.
@@pavlinggeorgiev The helm, or the steering wheel?
Alotta old heads getting all triggered about progress. My only concern is of the grinders just being powerplants for an electronic system. The beauty of sailing is that it is fully mechanical. Its the same deal as electric shifters on bikes
These boats are just huge emblems of wealth inequality.
Thanks for signaling your supposed virtue. Now go away and make yourself scarce.
I'm sure that the people that sail, build, rig, and maintain the boats run the gamut of incomes, and I bet that most of them really enjoy what they do. Look at it! Everything isn't about money.
Womp Womp, I’ll take it as long they are also emblems of technological advancement in sailing
@@johnmcmahon5225great point! There are dozens to hundreds of manufacturers supplying the materials that go into the construction of these boats and I would imagine there are positive economic impacts to businesses where the events take place.
Indeed. But in fairness, sailboat racing has probably always been so.
Compare the J class boats with these things who barely can be identified as boats.
Yes they are breathtaking fast but rockets are faster, so what.
A boat that self identifies as an airplane 🤣
And I'm sure a DEI crew 😂
OK when did i fall into the Twilight Zone? They look like spaceships not boats!!
Beautiful boats, too much talking heads. Can't we watch the boats while they're talking?
What? You wanna look at a few heads bobbing around, never scurrying on-deck...in silence?
2:28 - Tell me, please, why on Earth you would select "Comic Sans" font. Is it intentionally designed to make people hate you?
Because when you use Comic Sans, you upset an awful of people, no matter your intention. This is no joke.
There is only one rule in typography: If you think Comic Sans might be appropriate - you are always wrong.
You should use infographics, instead of interviews of people gesticulating...
As impressive as these boats are its a bit boring i prefer watching traditional monohull yachting and the effort of the crews
not interested in sailing, but every now and then look at the Americas Cup 'boats' to see high tech innovation....don't understand the strategies or race intricacies....but learning something about this is amazing. flying not sailing as they say.
Jak dla mnie to już szybownictwo nie żeglarstwo...
The tech is amazing , don’t get me wrong, but it’s does not do it for me, we lost something. Hit the reset button, go back to a modernized version of 1934 J-Class ( new hull’s material and rigging, same design) or VOR70s designs with as little tech as possible.. May the best crew win! 🏆 classics racing ( 12-15 knots), brawns, tactics and crew.
is it even sailing anymore? it is really more like flying, right?
computers and pressing buttons? pedaling in place? Sitting still in a small cockpits?
it is more like a plane skimming the waves
what always irks me about america's cup is that despite it being sponsored by the biggest and richest luxury companies in the world, there are obnoxious ads EVERYWHERE even over the effing waves nowadays, shameful...
so there's a few guys actually pedalling the boat along? wouldn't that make it a pedal boat? aquatic bicycle?
Seems they’re not pedaling the boat but keeping the oil of the hydraulic system circulating
The more you remove the human element of sport and replace it with technology at a certain point it removes what people love about sport.
Next these will be controlled like a drone with someone on shore drinking a rum and coke!
Please go back about 30-40 years with active crews, and sail changes seeing people solving problems and working together on deck in full view!
Until then…. BORING!
I have not understand a single word. All this is words of boats, which i am not familiar.
Can you explain slowly, what is a cyclorr, how the cycling impact energy on the boat, where is energy stored, how many energy, what are the controls of the sails, how interaction with rhe wind and the foils....
So, explanations about all is needed.
The cyclors pressurize the hydraulic system that moved the sails. The system is small so they need to constantly keep the power up since the sails are always moving.
The cycles pressurize a hydraulic 'bladder'. The helmsman pushes buttons. The announcers provide the sole 'entertainment' remaining in sailing. Got it?
Perfect example of how invasive technology can be in sport. F1 is the same.
“Flying the boat”. Huh. Guess its not a sailboat anymore. More like a hydroaeroplane.
Flying the boat says it all .
Zero ethos of sailing, and I know Jack shxt
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Id rather they go back to actual sailing sloops. Might as well just let AI run the boat
I couldn't care less about this sport. But I did watch the whole thing. Yeah, still don't care.
Americas cup just get´s more boring to look at each year. It´s just a party for rich people.
I have to agree. I miss the beer can races at Newport Beach.
Very interesting.
I always wondered why race boats grind in sails by hand, rather than much stronger legs…..so they nicked my idea!
@@WheelieD.223 you can enjoy sailing with an average income but competing? Yeah for sure!
Sorry, but that's not sailing. Lost interest in America's Cup some time ago frankly.
This is not sailing - this is flying! It effin sux....
It’s too bad they can’t design fishing boats like this so we could say 🖕to the California state government and the oil companies.
Perfect example of how technology has been allowed by the sponsors and owners to completely ruin a once beautiful, dynamic and human driven sport.
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