New Series! 1969 Mercedes 280 SE!!
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- Its time for Monkey Wrench Mike to begin the rolling restoration of his new, old 1969 Mercedes 280 SE (W108 Series). He’s following Kent Berga’s advice and concentrating on 1 system at a time. This is the first cideo introducibg you to the car and providing some of its amazing history.
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Never get that kind a machine work done nowadays for that money LOL great video Mike thank you
That 30 year old repaint looks better than most factory paint on a new car! That car is amazing. as someone who really will enjoy it. I'm glad you ended up with that one!
Mike! You are the best! So nice to see you happy! I really enjoy your videos and getting to see Lola too!
happy to see you kick off this project.
Important window works
gonna be a great series
Watching from Doha Qatar ❤
No man that cam is toast. No doubt you could clean it and get it to run, but it won't last. The hardened finish is gone. That said, I think that with all the good news, it shouldn't need much else. Service the brakes, clean tank and lines (& maybe repack the seals in the fuel injector pump), new tyres on those immaculate rims and she'll be a fine car. They are joy to drive. Better than my v126 500sel was. Ive been waiting for you to start on this one, and I'm watching from Western Australia! Look us up, the most isolated capital city on Earth! Envy you the journey, looking forward to more episodes!
Australia! How very cool! Thanks for watching!!
I’m in GA Mike but I know you are a Mercedes guy. I have a 2007 e550 for sale. It’s a nice nice car but has a couple of “Things” that need to be done. It’s a beauty!
keep going mike im sure you will get it
Trying to "clean up" the camshaft could end up being an effort that does not payoff. I would invest in a new camshaft before ever trying to start the old girl. think you would be money ahead.
Yes, I agree, I think that cam is done, and trying to clean in in-situ could lead to a lot of the scale falling into the engine and causing a whole load more issues when it does start. It's not all bad news, however. Looking at the bill for the engine rebuild, I doubt that was a new Merc camshaft when that work was done, so it's either an aftermarket replacement, which often weren't very good, or it's been reground, which could well be worse as the grinding may have gone through the hardening on the shaft, which could well be why it is now so corroded...
Wow, what a bargain, can't believed I'm in a process of buying a barn find car and it is a 280se 4.5. will be watching your videos, thanks.
Thanks! And good luck!!
@@MonkeyWrenchMike man.......that was a...... steal of...the...century!.......
I guess one of these days your going to find a 500k Marlene in the back of a coffee shop!
Mike mike mike it is all your fault i just bought a 2000 clk 230 kompressor convertible with a couple of problems only cost 300 pounds sterling keep up the good work love the videos and lola
I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THIS CAR!!! This has to be the bargain of the century!
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Glad to see you begin the journey on Janis, under the watchful eye of Lola! Can't wait for the next video already. Great work Mike!
Try and clean up the cam lobes. Drain gas tank, new fuel filter. Disconnect the fuel line at back of injection pump, crank over till fresh, clean fuel comes out. Refasten and give it a go at starting.🤞🤞🤞
Turn engine over by hand and hand clean cam lobes with emery cloth. Follow this with an oil change remove plugs spray oil and diesel mixture into each cylinder turn engine over for 20 seconds or so a couple of times ,drain oil and change filter, all before trying to start. This should help and may save a lot money in the long run.
Great advice! Thanks!!
Hooking battery up,,,,positive first , negative second
I would put a socket wrench on the Harmonic balancer and try to turn it over by hand to see if will spin over and see if it has compression.
You have a lot of hard work ahead of you Mike and we will be with you all the way (watching lol), but all the hard work will be worth it when you have the end result. Plus you have SML there to help you.
Thanks!! SML??
@@MonkeyWrenchMike Senior Mechanic Lola, I mentioned her in the last video lol
Oh! Now I remember!!
Use a fine wire wheel with oil on it
Beautiful old girl
Cam Shaft, Coolant for sure. Then fuel, Replace plugs wires filters etc.. Then electrical, first start.
Mike what a beauty! Have owned 2 280se's. Slow blinkers = high beam, motor not running + low battery ...... bugger! Cheers from Australia
$500,- is a SUPER score for a car like this. Over here in Europe expect to pay at least $5k,- to 6k,-
BTW steering wheel is not original. Probably a later W123 wheel.
About the cam: definitely try to clean it first, if it doesn't work out you can always decide to replace it later. Use some fine steelwool or a scotchbright pad. Keep a vacume cleaner hose close by with the motor on so you don't drop the crud into the oil/sump.
Hey Mike, shout out from the middle east, love your videos brother.
Remove spark plugs and Put WD-40 or something for a day or 2 , cam you most likely can be saved, 2000 then 3000 S paper and polish paste 😉 but take time don’t rush with this super nice Mercedes
Well, thank you kind sir for another video for us! BTW: I received my BLACK "Monkey Wrench Mike" coffee cup a day ago and it's unique. It's white on the inside so when I pour coffee I can actually see where it's at and never overfill. Problem is, it's so good looking I don't want to soil it. THANKS! Well worth the small pittance!
Listen, I was in Germany and took many taxi rides. ALL the taxi's were your car but in black, diesel and (ready) they were 4 speeds ON THE COLUMN! Let me tell you, you get in one of them you better HANG ON. They corner like the best of sports cars. Anyway, had to share that and tell you yours is beautiful and from here, that paint is flawless, certainly done correctly. Main thing, you HAVE the car, small thing, you will make it run right. What's a little 'cam' action among friends! Thank you, Mike! Sonny (CT)
Thanks Sonny!
You need someone in radio to do your audio. LOL
What a find, what a score.
Check engine is not seized, then clean cam shaft followed by various systems (fuel, electrical, cooling) prior to starting. No working engine and you have a shiny paper weight.
I don't think the side marker lights were required to light up in 1969, though I could be wrong. If they aren't then they'll just be reflectors...
This is a much older car than you usually work on, the indicators/turn signals operate on a mechanical relay rather than anything electronic, so if the car isn't running, they will flash much more slowly than they would with the engine running and the power from the alternator/dynamo flowing through the electrical system...
If you bought a new Mercedes-Benz back in the '60s, you could pick a collection option where you could travel to Stuttgart and collect the car from the factory before enjoying a motoring holiday in Europe and then having the car shipped back, in this case to the US...
Mike loving the videos from scotland uk
Love the car looking forward to more videos....
Good head tilt Lola! Turn signals might flash faster without your headlights on. Might not be enough juice. That radio was a very cheap unit. She deserves better anyway. Im not feeling the floor mats. If you like them that's all that matters. This will be a fun series!
Where were you in 1969? What were you doing in 1969?
I love these w108/109. I've got a 280se 4.5 and a 300sel 4.5 that I need to part with, sadly.
Really nice to pop the hood and NOT have a massive amount of hydraulic lines, hoses, and tons of computerized stuff to be concerned about! Takes me back to the days when cars were so much simpler to work on!
You might want to look into the feasibility of having that cam resurfaced. Otherwise, be careful when shopping for a replacement as a lot of them are from China and are of predictably low quality.
I would try to find a deal on a camshaft and lifters you must do both that cam is wasted for sure too much rust and pitting it will just eat up the lifters. I would then change the oil and filter along with all belts, hoses, spark plugs, wires etc. Not sure if you have a points or electronic distributor if it is points you may be able to look at Pertronix electronic ignition kit? Have the radiator checked and cleaned the go to the electronics and wiring. Lots of work ahead but I think it is worth it and I am not even a Mercedes guy but I like this one. You should create a Monkey Wrench Mike Janice 69 Mercedes shirt for the series.
Nice car. I have a '70 280S. The dome light switch on the dash is for the rear dome light. For the front dome light the light itself pivots to either be on, off or turn on when the doors are open. At least that's the way they are on my '70.
Hello Mike, I just found this video, she's a beautiful lady I just wanted to let you know I noticed when you turned the headlights off the ignition was left on, I don't know about a 69 german car, but I know it's a big no no to leave a points ignition in the on position with it not running on a American car it fries the points. Just thought you should know.
I'd probably do an oil change and cooling system flush after cleaning the cam and then see if she turns over. That is just to makes sure it isn't froze up. If it turns over then change the plugs and wires to see.if it fires. It wouldn't hurt to do a fuel tank flush and filter change.
Been looking for one to buy Sutch a beautiful car been following ur channel a while
You probly know mike but replace all the fuses with newer non aluminum fuses also some de-oxit spray to wake up her nerves!
You might have a serious problem with the electric windows. When the switches are on the door as opposed to the console it is a major problem to replace the window regulators. You may want to convert to manual
Mike once the engine is running the blinkers will blink faster
Love the old school benz. Don't start the engine without addressing the camshaft issue
Great Job!!!! I Love the History.
Let's get working on it. Clean the cam!
very similar engine bay to my w113 Pagoda :-)
You're going to have to send that Cam and see if they can turn it if they can't you're going to need a new cam
My advice, Remove the oil pan and check the crank shaft for rust. If there is nothing there, replace the pan and change the cam shaft so it doesn't cause you an issue and ruin the motor. You want to be careful with your classic baby. Best to be safe than sorry. Also look in the cylinders with a scope to see if they are rusted. Have you turned the motor over yet? Good luck my friend she seems like a sweet beauty. Take care of her. Cam first or nothing else matters
Looking forward to more content on this car😀
Glad to see you back. I really enjoy your videos
You have a true diamond. I would focus on the “getting it running” part. Reason? The rest of the car is immaculate. Plus looking good doesn’t do much if it can’t be driven. IMO. Peace
Great video great car and can’t wait to hear it start!
A new cam mike, will be money well invested ;-)
WOW! Great video !!! That 280SE is beautiful!! I cant wait to see it running!!!
Power windows in 1969? Nice! That end switch is probably what locks the windows from opening!
check electrical... fuel and start it. That gunk in the valve train will be gone in minutes...
Ed Clark was a cash daddy.Car is looking NICE!! glad you have this gem, Mike.
When I was 18 years old and precious, I was riding in a new 280SE with the car salesman who surprised me by intentionally taking his hands off the steering wheel and hitting a curb going about 45 mph. I nearly bit a hole in the leather seat with my a_ _ . The car simply hopped up on the curve, and the steering wheel stayed straight, as the car kept going straight. From then on I was sold on these cars. My very first one was a 1970 250C. Fast forward 50 years, and many cars later, I'm drinve a C250.
Crazy!!
Absolutely one of my favorite cars of all time. I have been looking for many years for one of these in good shape at a reasonable price. I have not had the good luck you experienced. I will , however, not stop trying. Great project. Best wishes!
Thanks Lars! You’ll probably find one when you least expect it!
Mike first thing I'd do is clean fusebox with a brass brush and put in all new fuses
Those fuses were always a problem - the original Bosch were much more reliable than aftermarket replacements. To clean corrosion off electrical connections off car soak in white vinegar for 2 hours then wash with water with added baking soada then rinse and spray with an electrical contact grease.
@@andrewwmacfadyen6958 I did not know that the new fuses were problematic. The best solution would be to find new old stock then, but that is easier said than done...
Mike, I love this car and what an adventure it's going to be until it we get to see it run. Do it right Mike, Lola and I are watching you. lol
I would not turn the engine with that rusty cam, it will liberate metal particles into the oil and throughout the engine.
NICE! Another MWM video💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
Great vid
I've been watching MercedesSource for a loooong time. That's why I never buy them lol.
You are a smart man. Much smarter than me!
Never? Like the ml320, the 430, the 500, and TWO Chrysler crossfire. That's just the ones i remember.You've had more mercs than Mike.... 😁
Greetings from the fantastic land of Volvo, Saab, Koenigsegg and free healthcare. 😊
Mike there should not be a red light illuminated on the dash when you have the key off. You need to check that.
On the camshaft, you should just replace it. Why take the chance of whatever you clean off getting down in the engine. Those metal particles will do a lot more damage than you have right now.
♡♡♡ JANIS ♡♡♡
They are a work of art.
Absolutely timeless design.
As much as I'd love one, I lack the knowledge and skills to keep the girl running.
You have definitely found a diamond, and not even on the rough. Clean your cam, fire her up !!!!
That red light can be some issue with the altenator or startmotor, that red light should not be on if the ignition is off, so check altenator first.
Maybe that was the smoke earlier - from the alternator?
The 1969 is my favourite year\model. I love the old school wood around the window frame. Didn't see it in yours so not sure if yours has been taken off or its the '69\70 model which deleted this. No the indicators aren't that slow normally.
Thanks! Yes, I have wood everywhere! Lol
@@MonkeyWrenchMike I never thought about putting on alloys. It looks nice, I might try it. I can always change it back. My paint job was $2k but I also had a door straightened as the previous owner side swiped something and had some rust removed. The paint on these things is so thick.
Try to see if she turns over and has somewhat decent compression!
The 280 se is my favorite , love the old classics.This has to be one of if not your BEST video to date. Great job Mike!!!!
Lola awwwww
Love your videos,keep doing what your doing.
Don’t change a thing.
Replace the camshaft.
Thanks Kenneth!
Love it. Working on my 280SEL in between other projects. Can't wait to see you drive it.
One engine rebuild, 2 paint jobs and probably more major engine work needed. Unless it has 256k miles under the belt, I can't see the vaunted Mercedes quality and reliability. Would I drive it? Sure, but perhaps look for a different engine.
Turn the key,what's the worst that can happen....😲👍
Ha!!
Ha!!
I'm from the future. Remember the name "disco inferno.""
Slow turn signals could be the flasher or ground connecrions or contacts need cleaning
Hi Mike, Kristal from the U.K.......I think that the 4+1 buttons on the drivers door are 2 for rear doors 2 for front doors and the big chrome button I believe locks the two back windows from being used by Kids? in the rear seat........... best wishes
Did anybody else notice at the very end when he’s showing the under side of the hood on the right hand side it looks like a person screaming? 😱
Scary! Thanks for pointing it out!
Great find! Looks like a European model SE, U.S would have orange rear turn signals( maybe an OK thing?), and steering wheel is wrong one.?! 1st, turn battery around, neg to front. 2. Turn signal bulbs and mounts need cleaning. 3rd. The fuse thingy under the fuse block is a bulb for the door opening. Don't think the side fender reflectors had lights in them. Sounds like the car was in an accident , then sent for paint that had to be redone. Cam? Maybe a machine shop can save it, is questionable. Wonder why the car needed a motor rebuild after only 10 years ownership..
Such a beautiful car! Well built, fun to drive and a great piece of history! This will be a great series!
Back when the car was new, ONLY wealthy people bought these cars. Today, anyone can buy them because Mercedes has cheapen the cars to allow most to buy one. IF today's MB were built like this one, it would cost over $200,000!
What a beautiful old Mercedes. I loved seeing that old Pan Am leaflet from the car being shipped over from Europe.
Beautiful Car Mike, great buy. Looking forward to see it been driven again Cheers from Oz
Kent would have used rubber gloves when working on the engine 😂😂😂
This is a beautiful car honestly I don’t have any input I’m here for the journey keep up the good work
I would go through it before attempting to start it. Think of the drama and anticipation. Good video. Liked the gear change fix.
When I think of Mercedes that body style comes to mind. When I rebuilt my rover I removed the camshaft and soaked in parts cleaner. Then I started with crocus cloth and started to 'sand' the lobes, crocus cloth is very mild if the results aren't promising then step up in aggressiveness paper possibly a Dremel tool and attack just the rusted area.
A wire wheel on a drill would clean up the cam shaft then rotate it over half way and do the other side. Piece of cake. maybe a green scratch pad would take it off too. wd40 for starters.
Turn signals are probably slow because of a sticky relay. My guess is it sat so long corrosion built up in the relay and it needs to be taken apart and polished up or simply replaced. Either way I wouldn't throw out the original you never know when it might come in handy some day
Now you know the car does not have original paint or original miles, but none of that matters with how lovely she is.
love that car!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'd say if you replaced the in line fuse the radio would work and all the other stuff
Mike you can put a camshaft on a large same as they do with a crankshaft I used to work at a engine rebuilding shop years ago