How a Pikeman Would Fight on a 17th Century Battlefield
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- In this video, a reenactor from the Marquess of Winchester's Regiment demonstrates how a pikemen would fight on a 17th century battlefield. Carrying a 16-foot ash pike, the main role of pikemen during the English Civil War was to defend musketeers against enemy cavalry. But pike formations could also be ordered to engage each other.
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Her: "so what do you do for a living?"
Him: "im a Royalist Pikemen" 💀😭
Her: "So, how long is your pike?"
I'm similar, but just parliamentarian
@@desknerdAmerican Union Soldier
Her: pike me
she:*
he:*
I met him on the battlefield. Very politely told me, "Be a good lad and get off your horse." The battle ended, we all shook hands, then went to the pub to have a couple pints.
thatsa gooden
Yea i rolled by in a M1A2 Abrams. When we saw him we knew that the gig was up. White flag, and a pint at the local pub.
To be fair I would do what he says, he's *too* composed
We tried to take em at night... we own the night... at least we did
After quickly disabling our nvgs with precision pike strikes, he held our Lt by sword at the neck, granting us our lives through the greatest gesture of mercy we ever saw. After handing him enough silver for a couple pints, he allowed us our freedom.
@@jakemac875you killed the joke. The joke was about the gentlemanly stereotype of the British. You just flipped it around and killed it by having him take a bribe. That's like the most dishonourable thing a pikesman could do.
The way he's speaking has me convinced he was actually there.
It's just a Berkshire accent from a place called Newbury
@@mondlingwenya Haha yeah. Moreso the context of how he's referring to the subject and less how he sounds makes me think he's recounting from personal experience.
British
It's called "Acting!!"
@@mondlingwenyaWell now I know it’s bullshit those places aren’t even real
He’s talking about surviving on 2020s London streets
@@Schimml0rd just stabbing proof
Trade horses for mopeds.
Diversity is our strength
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@@divafever9754 diversity is abused as a synonym for Middle East only
I love how he says “we” like he was actually there
From the perspective of consciousness, he was, you have the perception of being mortal when in reality the present moment awareness he is experiencing ha sbeen passed from one being to another since the dawn of time.
He's also wearing the typical period gear, he's a reenactor whos into his role. More engaging to learn from than a textbook, that's for sure
@@petekkrishnansansince the dawn of time? And yet Homo sapiens have existed for less than 1 million years....
@@dankoproductions6475it's called LARPing. We have civil war reenactment in the states and it's even more abysmal.
@@devonthomson9041 consciousness didnt begin with humans, it began with the birth of the universe, most likely had no beginning or ending tbh, and has simply transformed from one form or another, from nebulas to stars to planets to water to amino acids then dna then single cells then multi cells and so on and so forth, until finally now that same immortal consciousness is reading these words struggling to make sense of its own nature against the resistance of its ego/personality which has conviced oneself that is in fact.. them.
"Dismounted the rider" is a very polite way of saying "kill the horse".
Horse Kebab
@@demaciasolos Followed by rider Shish Kabab.
He said it that way to emphasize that it doesn't matter how you did it; once the rider is brought down, the horse will flee, and the rider can be dealt with as a slow and very vulnerable target.
"Kill the horse" was not his point
@@zwischenzeilenleserIt’s what happened all the time to the poor horses, but if it were to stop in the last moment and unmount the rider it would have been even better for the pikemen’s army because they might capture a horse.
I appreciate this man coming from the 17th century to teach us
The immortal Pikeman
THATS DEDICATION
imagine holding that pike and staring down 900lb beasts running full speed right at you. now imagine running full speed into a forest of 16ft death branches waiting for your arrival. war must be hell.
War IS hell. A shame after all these years that we have not figured out a better way to solve arguments.
@@nedsteven4622 Well... works in Hunter x Hunter
I think I'd rather be on the horse then getting ran over by a mini Cooper with a pike as my defense, I'm not understanding how you would hold the sword in the other hand and only hold the stick with one arm and a knee..
@@alexkoulakoff7291To my understanding, if the horse gets skewered on the pike, the rider will still be alive, and could kill you. Therefore you'd need your sword to defend yourself. When receiving a cavalry charge, the other end of the pike is braced in the ground anyway, so only one hand is needed to hold it. That's my understanding anyway.
@@jamesseale7686 I thought about that too but went what if the horse turned last second and made the pike go sideways plus if the horse died the rider could be a super athlete and somehow recover but would it he be quicker than the time it takes to drop the pike and draw a sword
You think he's a reenactor, but they actually opened a time portal and pulled this man through for an interview
What did they pay the man? 3 geese and a cat?
@@StrangeScaryNewEngland1 big mac
@@Vi_-_ Shit. Now he'll keep coming back through time for more -_-
I swear I see you commenting all over TH-cam
Normal people "i'm an engineer" "i work in McDonald's" "i'm a cashier"
Real MEN: "i'm a royalist Pikeman"
The military still exists today. Come join us and show how manly you are
@@Gglobebut are you royalist pikemen today?
@@Gglobesomeone can't read, lol
But what colour is your bugatti
Royalist pikeman: “I’m a royalist pikeman.”
I love how he says "we" as if he didn't just get off a shift at Bunnings. Love that he gets so into character.
his ancestors did and that's what matters.
What did yours do?
Food service?
@@youreafagifyoureadthis Those ancestors died so we could live in the comfort of having to do food service rather than bleed to death ripped apart on a shithole battlefield somewhere.
@@youreafagifyoureadthishow do you know his ancestors were trained soldiers? They literally could have been anything else
@@Originalchili everyone has like a corbillion ancestors the likelyhood that one of them wasn't a pikeman is very low
A pike weighs about 22 lbs (approx. 10 kg) with most of that weight being the 14 feet or so (approx. 4 meters) that is away from the pikeman, putting considerable strain on the arms, forearms, and shoulders over time when not braced for a cavalry charge. Carrying that in formation and thrusting overhand would be a workout and the English who carried and used it were probably very strong for their times. In general, I'd say that the sheer strength and endurance of the soldiers of that age is more impressive than that of most men today.
Eh, I wore 50 lbs of body armor and sat in a scorching hot truck with all the windows up and no AC during the hottest part of the summer in the middle of a desert in Iraq.
Suffering is relative. The point is, you get used to it. It doesn’t suck less, but you build your tolerance to the conditions. If you weren’t constantly drinking water, you dehydrate in under an hour.
When you took off your uniform after your 16 -18 hour day. Your uniform could stand on its own- permanently pressed into form from your own sweat, the sweltering heat, and the salt discharge.
It was quite an impressive feat just to stay hydrated every day. What an experience. As far as how that compares to being a royal pikemen? Again I think it’s relative.
Most of us (military) carried around 75 pounds of extra gear every single day. You build up to it.
@@jaynsilentboomWell, I do think the OP was referring to most men in general today. Not most soldiers of today.
@@jaynsilentboom The weight carried by modern soldier is distribued in the body. If the soldier needed carry e fire a 10 kg weapon this would be a more accurate comparison.
They were around half that weight and that includes weight on the bottom to balance it out. They would also be tapered at the end to reduce weight and drooping. Pikes were actually meant to be quick and nimble.
@maofria1452 so a 240, 249, or CLU.
It's so amazing that we actually have footage of men who fought in the English Civil War.
That’s not possible.
@@generationallyadjacent4283it’s a joke dumb a
@@generationallyadjacent4283 It clearly is though.
It is well known that the cameraman NEVER dies.
Hey, if Joe Biden could get over 80 million votes for President, we can have actual footage of English Civil War soldiers.
I remember in the 1970 film 'Cromwell', a Royalist cavalryman gets a pike in the throat when attacking a square of pikemen. It looked and sounded very realistic, maybe a bit too realistic... 🤔
At which minute? 😮i have to watch that
@@m.j.9318 not sure which minute but it was into the start of the second battle in the movie at Naseby. It was after Cromwell charged with his cavalry and then retreated behind their own pikes and the royalist cav chasing after them ran into the parliamentary pikes and rifleman taking cover behind a low stone fence.
super, i will rewatch it
@@af17317596
Omg that movies so inaccurate
@@dominic6634 It's Hollywood and they were better then than they are now. I liked it for what it was.
As a yank who usually only hears a few different UK accents, it's interesting to hear this guy using such clear rhoticity in his r's. "Charge" really surprised me.
Its a old Berkshire accent from Newbury .Thank you pikeman hammer
He said languets. Thats spear in todays language and I only know languets because we have it in Hungarian for spear.
This is an example of a very easterly westcountry accent. you might enjoy listening to old bristol, devon, cornish accents too as they stem from the same source. to a lesser extent there are some london accents which are cousins to this one. sadly the diversity of the english language is being lost to estuary english and ebonics
No true American calls himself a yank 😂
@@aherooflegend3076 ok yank
Imagine In 500 years, some bloke with an AR will reenact our times combat with the same enthusiasm.
Imagine in 500 years people will be just as enamored with human-piloted war machines.
In 500 years we’ll probably be just reinventing the pike
@@flamee23312 We have constantly been reinventing the pike. Nobody wants to be closer to danger.
In 500 years, they'll be reenacting all of the recent mass shootings and school shootings.
People already try to reenact current combat. Airsoft, IPSC, etc. There's a whole "tacticool" industry just willing to sell you the item you need to become an operator.
Can't believe they got an actual royalist pikeman to tell us about their job
Yup. These TH-camrs really go the extra mile 😌👌
They spared no expense
Did not even flinch after being abducted from his time line.
@@raclark2730 Aye! I'm sure he also doesn't smell very good.
Well trained and disciplined pike blocks were some of the most feared foot units in the medieval battlefield.
1700's is not medieval era
@@vladescu3g 1600s and pike formations existed since... well since the pike was invented
Man's been a dedicated solder for 500 years 😂😂
That's a bit of a stretch, mate. He's only some 400-ish years. ;)
@@willek1335more like 370ish years ;)
just the right amount of flux too.
@Dom-fx4kt and how many centuries of combat have you seen?😂
I wonder does he get his veterans discount or is he still considered in service?
He talks like he's actually from the past and time travelled to today
WE protected the ... WE would aim at the horses
WE , WE , WE
yeah I actually agree with you
Maybe he's a soldier in a 3rd world country which cant afford modern equipment....russia for instance 😂😂😂
I've been a WW2 re-enactor for over 30 years when I discuss the soldiers of the time I say " They " because I wasn't there. His use of " We " does a dis-service to the real people that fought, bled and died. It bugged me as well.
Meanwhile, the time traveler: oh blimey, I did it again, didn't I?
He's probably from Southwestern England or Western Central England.
They still pronounce the back r sound(they say butter, not buttah).
This is one of the coolest ways i've seen stuff like this been taught. Instant subscribe and thank you.
Thanks for the sub!
My man was talking about killing people but he stuttered at "killing horses" 😂 heart of gold
In wars during those days anything which could kill you was an enemy to be killed. Man or beast. Present day "civilized" people don't use animals in warfare anymore so they react like the pampered modern day people they are. During Operation Barbarossa in 1941 Nazi Germany used 700,000 horses to augment their lacking logistics (nowhere near enough trucks). They boldly counted the Soviet Union would be defeated before the Russian Winter... Unfortunately for them that didn't happen and now they had to survive with no winter uniforms, no winter equipment and no food. So many of those 700,000 horses were *eaten* .
It's amazing what starvation and wars will do to people. 17th wars were no different. This modern day man has been living the modern day life. Rest assure a real war of kill-or-be-killed or widespread starvation will challenge his "heart of gold" too.
@@McLarenMercedesok, Mr vroom-zoom-luxury-car.
Clearly, you're not an animal lover. Please tell us how pampered we are some more
Generally Pikes in this era of warfare were used to deny cavalry access to the vulnerable musketeers that would be within the same formation.
Horses aren't the smartest animals but they know better than to skewer themselves on a sharp point, and neither the horse rider nor the pikeman wants 1000lbs of dead horse barrelling into their formation. The horsemen of this era would also be armed with pistols for skirmishing.
Ok Dwight Shrute @McLarenMercedes
@@McLarenMercedestake a nap
The Welsh were renowned for two things: being SURGICAL with those pikes (which took brass balls to stand in front of a cavalry charge and not break rank), esp in Cromwells army, and their love of toasted cheese.
He’s not Welsh though
Theyre more renowned for the longbow
@@Vaultboy-ke2jj that’s why his has no blood on it
@@scavoo03 you mistook a West Country accent for a Welsh one 😂
He is talking about the English civil war. No Welshmen were involved.
"fits around 20 bodies if stacked neatly, good for a party decoration"
Crazy to think this bloke is 300+ years old, he aged like fine tea
I like the low class accent he has. It really adds to the rank and file soldier persona 😅
Very informative. You can tell he really knows his stuff. I was not always clear on how the warfare of this era really went down, this clears it up a lot.
It sounds like he was there.
You need to ask the spanish tercios 😂
The New Model Army of the Parliamentarians is well documented as professional and well trained using "Instructions for Musters and Arms "
oh yeah? totally.... are you being sarcastic?
Quite the contrary… the way the pike was used he got correct, but you can’t cut through a pole arm with a sword even if it isn’t reinforced with steel. It’d take like 5 whole min to get though, and horses aren’t dumb, they’d avoid the pikes at all costs, but the abrupt stop might throw the rider if he’s not experienced. Cavalry wasn’t used like shock troops, despite what movies show. Usually used for flanking or running down retreating soldiers. Horses are basically useless in close melee combat. Also, that pike has the same thickness all the way through the shaft when historical ones would’ve been more tapered.
At first I read the title 'How a Pokemon would fight on a 17th century battlefield', then I realized I hadn't put my glasses on
And you have some anime profile pic. How fitting.
I couldn't imagine fighting someone who sounds so polite 😂
He sounds polite to u?
His descendents must have immigrated to Canada.
He's seen enough shit
@@benstone217He doesn’t to you?
"We'll make spears, hundreds of them, long spears, twice as long as a man." "That long? Some men are longer than others." "Your mother's been telling you stories about me again, eh?"
One of the greatest fantasy film ever made 💪 ❤️
What’s the film?
@@AD-lh3jk Braveheart
@@AD-lh3jkbraveheart and the best actor in it was the Irish man 😂🇮🇪
@@C0wb0yBebopfantasy?
Imagine being issued a longass stick on the battlefield and having to hold your ground against a huge wave of 900-pound horses charging towards you at full speed.
Imagine being a horse charging towards a bunch of pikes aimed at your chest,. I imagine cutting my charge short!
Glad to see the time traveling pikeman still has a job
So glad they went back in time to grab a real pikeman to teach us about what they did
I wish we could have a time traveling camera to see how these tactics worked out in battle. There is always a buy the book way and an adapted way that soldiers used tactics to face various challlenges.
So glad this channel gives passionate reenactors the chance to be heard. Love this work
Wait what, reenactors?
I love these reenactors....they are so precious to history...
my friend this is no reenactor this a original royalist pikemen
I wish to become one, though the costs are a bit much.
It’s actually amazing they were able to find this 500 year old footage and remaster it this well.
He’s legit aiming at the cameraman 😂
Alec Baldwin intensifies
He had his finger off the trigger though, and he himself made sure the pike wasn't loaded instead of relying on the armorer's word.
He slipped up. He’s a time traveler.
“Sometimes we would..
For those unaware of their efficacy, these troops were deployed in Afghanistan.
i’m sorry to critique, i genuinely like the video but langets are not there to prevent the pike’s head being cut off, that’s a pervasive myth - they may protect against damage but no one is just cutting through a pike shaft, the damage is far more from shearing force from the stresses actual use places a polearm under and as the point of attachment for the head. various polearms used langets long before the development of pike squares
AcTuAlLy ☝️🤓
Damn that makes sense I was thinking like wtf were the cavalry carrying to be able to cut through that thick of wood with one cut at an angle like that??
What’s your source?
Never apologize when fighting misinformation.
@@yungwaifuyou definitely can cut them. Remember you don’t need to cut straight through. As long as you cut about a third in. Which is not hard at all the structural integrity is shot. Meaning the next time they try to thrust and meet heavy resistance like hitting solid armor or impailing one more target the shaft will snap. The langets make sure that doesn’t happen. Older polearms had langets for the same reasons. One just simple strength and two protection against bladed weapons. Even multiple shallow cuts seriously destroy the long term integrity of a wooden haft.
Great explanation for a very misunderstood and lightly glamorized period.
It was war very scary place to be . hell on earth canon .shot .and a ton plus horse charging .we just try to let people know there history in the hope people learn from the past .thank you pikeman hammer
so nice to see a 17th century vet in good health and shape
Pike and Shot era is really an interesting and overlooked period of history. Thanks!
Yeah, I've always wanted the makers of Battlefield to make a 1500's-1600's version where you can choose a class to lead a small contingent of AI pikemen, arqebusiers, lancers, black riders, landsknechts, longbowmen, militias and what have you.
@@electrominded8372 There is a 1500s Renaissance mod for Mount and Blade Warband that might scratch your historic battle itch.
Lets give a round of applause for Timmy's dad.... its his turn to tell everyone what he does for work
class: 👁👄👁
17th century: I'm a royalist pikeman.
21st century: I'm a real ass pokemon.
man, his accent is gold. i’m trying to shore up on my european accents and this guy just became an NPC in my d&d campaign
The accent is West Country if you're wondering
And I also love including accents in D&D
Push of Pike must have been a truly horriffic thing to find yourself in the midst of.
there we're indeed, paintings on how messy. Well, no blood and gore due to lack of painting techniques at the time, but its one hell of a mess of sticks and peoples.
Seems much worse to be Calvary to run into them
Unless you have archers then the pikeman are not that scary
@@pajserlatacchini9400 depends. If the archer is shooting straight instead of arcing, then its up to the armour of the pikemen(most of victims of Agincourt's archers are horses, the knights protected them from longbowmen's arrow just fine). But if its arcing over, reduced possibility due to the fact that the rear ranks, 4th to 6th rows, have it tilted upward. Those tilted pikes has a possibility of catching the arrows. No, I'm not making this up, this was figured out back on Alexander The Great's time. Which utilizes pikes instead of shorter spears of Greek Hoplite phalanx.
@@pajserlatacchini9400 Not really, archers would have to be protected by your own pikemen and couldn't stop an enemy pike formation on their own
Horses do NOT charge pointy sticks!!!
It's why spears, pikes and muskets with bayonets were so successful on the battlefield.
The number of successful breaks of a well-formed defence pike circle/ bayonet squares throughout history number in the 10s after well over 10,000 cavalry charges - from the Greeks and Romans to Waterloo to WW1, every successful attack on pointy sticks is heralded as a great and unusual victory...
I love history ♥️
THEN......THE WINGED HUSSARS ARRIVED !
Didn't know winged hussars were involved in English Civil War.
But did they come down the mountainside though?
Amusingly, their lances, the _Kopia_ , at near horizontal level is long enough to outreach an angled pike. There we're anectodes that they can take pikes head on but I doubt that is the common occurrence because cavalry always flank AFAIK.
...and got cut down.
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Love your channel! Keep up with the good documentals, lovely recreation team too!
Pd: love how they explay the formations😉.
Glad you got to interview a genuine pikeman
How would they even cut the ends off? With a sabre? My god that would take a while. That languet reinforcement is probably so that the metal tip doesn't break off on impact.
It would (generally) take a while, but it's there to prevent many strikes from whittling it down so it could be cut or broken.
It is conceivable that people could eventually cutt a thick ash stick like this with a heavy sword, but I agree with you, the langet is mostly there to spread the load and shock of regular use across a longer length of the shaft.
Probably there to dissipate the heat from lightsabers
@@witoldschwenke9492The heat?
@@alexanderorr2528 From lightsabers.
I need to go to bed, I thought I was clicking on a video about Pikmin. 😅
Nah, you’re on to something, how WOULD a pikman perform on a 17th century battlefield?
Women ☕️
@@KarmaTwo02That sounds like a WAY better video tbh
@@KarmaTwo02 It may take 200 of them to hold a sword, but they would be ferocious, still.
No, you didn't.
You knew what you were clicking on.
You can still see the death and destruction in his eyes after all those battles, unbelievable footage here
Love history thank you brothers ❤
Those medieval battles (or any pre-gun battle) must have been insanity. It’s super hard to kill someone with a blade or bludgeon. It’s even harder when they are wearing armor. I have to imagine fatigue would be one of the most influential aspects over who wins the battles.
On of the most effective weapons to exist; A big, sharp stick.
What's better than a big sharp stick? An even BIGGER sharp stick
@@columbien10 A LONGER, bigger stick.!
An even bigger stick and head but the actual stick has been removed and the head has been accelerated to 900m/s@@reynaldoflores4522
You can take the Man out of the time period, but you can't take the time period out of the man
the balls to stay there when a horse is running towards you at full speed. even if the horse gets tabbed surely it's just gonna come flying in at at you
he’s saying “we” because he remembers it
I like how he says "we" as if he really was a pikeman.
He is.
He's 300 years old and still going strong 💪🔥
This is amazing I like this
Not going to lie dude looks pretty badass.
He doesn’t though. You must think Aldi’s is hardcore
Amazing preservation of history. Well-done!
"Then we would lunge, to get some extra distance."
Literally using a 16 foot spear💀
But remember that if you're fighting other pikemen, they are also using 16ish foot spears as well.
The only thing they're completely missing out on is the support team with swords and close combat gear that stood around these men with poles.
Heavily armored men with swords and shields, halberds, pollaxes, great swords, etc were commonly mixed into pike and shot formations in the 16th century because they were better suited once two infantry formations started going at it. Not sure about the 17th century though.
By this time period the main support team for the pikes had muskets.
By the 17th century in the English civil war (and around Europe) shorter polearms were only held by NCO. Their main purpose was to ensure pikeman and muskets lined up on the colours correctly. And I imagine defend the colours when needed.
It's always a guy that looks like he would trip and fall and immediately be slaughtered. 😂
16 foot ash pike was my nickname in high school
You were at high school with Don Lemon and Jussie S?😅 Wow!
I've been doing American Civil War living history for most of my life and this is so freaking cool what u guys do...very cool
This makes me realize how these are good against horses 😅 these are WAY longer than I thought
Horse kebabs on the menu tonight boys 😂😂
The bayonet replaced these pikes.. That way everyone had a gun and a pike.
@@patrickporter1864not exactly… the bayonet was no where near as good at deterring a cavalry charge as a pike was. It’s far better than nothing, but calling it a pike is an exaggeration. The reason it replaced the pike was that the number of infantry increased significantly, and rounds down range became much more important.
considering how most soldiers don't shoot to kill when they first start out, I wonder how many of these old battles were much more like a high school fight and less like the movies. Imagine the front lines of both opposing sides getting near each other with people occasionally trying to attack someone insulting them on the other side.
The battle there would be musketeer on both side of the pike firing the canon would be firing ball . nails ect . This would be hell on earth smoke ,sounds a ton plus horse charging firing pistol in to you thousands of horse charging . The battle of Newbury had 18 thousand a side .6 thousand plus die and 3 time that would die of infection days later .Thank you for asking the question pikeman hammer
I have held an ash pike when there was an English civil war event on in my village. They were doing a display and got volunteers from the audience. I didn't brace myself for the weight when they told me to bring it down, it snacked against the stone floor. Fairly sure I damaged the 600 year old paving outside the castle.
I can’t imagine dying in an outfit as goofy as that
But imagine looking like a badass and then getting killed by someone in a goofy outfit like that.
@@WatchtowerSeven XD touché
This was the best clothes armour of the time of war .To protect from a ton plus horse charging and firing there pistols at you . Thank you pikeman hammer
@@martinclayton-ex7ymThis armor would do absolutely nothing against a pistol. That’s why they stopped using armor altogether in the 1700s
@@demaciasolos A modern pistol or a pistol from the 1600s? 
Considering human history I doubt it, but I wonder if you brought back the up close brutality of earlier Warfare whether people would be so eager to engage in it, especially in a world where communication is instant and everyone can see everything as it happens.
I don't think it would change things much.
Real, but military advancement was never intended to benefit civilians, just make us easier to kill. Nobody is safe from that fact.
I think it's good for people to be exposed to the horrors of the war and life. Even children. So many citizens of various countries call for war, but the toll doesn't hit them until they see it up close.
There is no greater brutality than talking to a person and then bam, they're dead, and you could be next.
It may seem clwan but the fear is greater than being fave to face with an enemy you can hate instead of fear.
@@juangalton999older societies tended to be even more war hawkish, so im not sure your idea would work.
Ancient, medieval and early modern people the world over loved jumping at the chance to pillage and plunder violently
love it.
Most importantly, we are all alive today, only because all of our ancestors fought like there's no tomorrow, unless we win.
One thing I really can't figure out - or find an answer on is - during Push of Pike, what were the musketeers doing? Were they on the flanks shooting into the opposing musketeers? Were they trying to out flank the opposing pikemen?
Had the same question ⁉️
The shot ranks would be behind the pikes .
ranks of shot would fire into the cavalry as they got close enough, you have to remember that their muskets didn't have to power of today's guns and took about 30 seconds to load a shot
The pike ranks was there to protect the shot
@@scottbates100 during Push of Pike the musketeers were behind the Pike and shot through them? I can find zero references to this. Smoothbore muskets are more powerful than you think.
@@GizmoDuck_1860 muskets were inaccurate and slow to load hence the concept of volley fire. push of pikes is associted with pike squares and probably didn't happen when both sides were pike and shot? logically the side with the most skilled musketeers would shoot through the other sides pikemen.
If they weren't running away from the cavalry then they were usually engaging the enemy musketeers who are doing the same thing. It's unlikely for the musketeers to fire at the enemy pikemen in any large scale manner during push of pike (bad war) because it's usually impossible to get enough men to have an angle at the enemy without risking hitting your own men or being really exposed. They can't leave the protection of the pikes to get many men in a really good position to fire en mass into the pikes because enemy cavalry.
Boi talking like he was there 😂😂 imagine he actually was
He was. Damn nobber dismounted me and almost killed me with a sword.
I been in so many battles . It would have been a very scary place to be . pikeman hammer thank you
the circular formation was a lot more effective than one thinks. pikemen were very formidable against mounted calvary and trained knights. one of the best ways to dismount riders.
Do you need more recruits? 😊
Yes, reenactment groups are always looking for more recruits. It's an expensive hobby, though. (and to be honest, some groups are more welcoming than others)
Military tactics of the old world never ceases to bore. Although outdated today this kinds of tactics our ancient ancestors had made is something I would do for spare time. Reenacting.
Wing Chun, a southern chinese martial art, also has a 2.1m pole weapon. It's called 6 1/2 point pole. I'd be fascinating to find any similarities between fighting styles from 2 parts of the world.
Clearly, Charles has changed the monarchy to suit his particular style. I approve.
In the 17th century, Polish cavalry (HUSARIA) fought with weapons up to 20 feet long. If they met royalists in battle, they would make skewers of them.
Simple but effective protective plates.
Imagine all this military evolution of armor and overcoming it all boiling down to who has a longer pointier stick
A Pikerist Royalman just watched in the back petting a weird new dog breed saying "lovely"
Ancient and medieval warfare was absolutely brutal..
This was truly one of the most unique time periods in Warfare History
Man, all those poor horses that had to go through all the wars that we did. Horses had a target on them
Remember switching to your sword is always faster than re-positioning your pike.
"My hobbies involve long walks on the beach, dismounting lads from their horse with my pike"
As someone who did Sealed Knot (17th century english civil war reenactment, like this gent) for most of my childhood (Parlamentarian though, so cromwell's army), the points I find interesting about this are:
1) That his pike seems far thinner and more warped than the ones we used, which makes me assume its a display piece, especially as they won't allow steel tips on the field.
And 2) him pulling that size of sword. Most would have a knife or shortsword at best as an emergency sidearm, as at least when it comes to reenactment, full size swords are usually only equipped by officers and cannon teams, but you never broke rank if you could help it. (Plus for reenactment you're stuck using 5 pence sizes round edged mild steel bars as swords for safety reasons)
Being a pikemam standing your ground against a cavalry charge is one of the highest demonstrations of bravery in war.
Me: Wow, what a cool historical reenactment!
Pikeman: There can be only one, m8.
Makes sense they counted the troops by lances, this is a very powerful yet simple weapon
VIRIBUS: Okay, this is an extreme element of warfare while gunpowder and bullets are still being introduced to the battlefield...
The horse is owned by the nobility...The peasant must learn how to defeat the enemy's nobility....
Thanks for your comment, Viribus...
@thomasboushier2972 Absolutely, as you say there were such powerful weapons and expensive gear, and yet a long stick with a bit of metal can get the knights off their horses. Until the pikemen got shot, as you correctly remarked
@viribusunitis8617 VIRIBUS: Yes!...For the peasant as soldier, the question was whether the horse (elephant, camel) could mobilize you, or protect you when you dismounted...It was difficult to retreat with elephants (through narrow gates)...Northern Europe was different from southern Europe...
Thanks, again...
The way he says "we were there" is actually convincing due to the way he speaks. When I heard him speak my mind was like "Was he actually there?..... I mean he sounds like he was there."😅😂
As a child, I thought pikemen were masters of hunting northern pike fishes and simillar.
Excellent portrayal of combat in this era(ish) os Alatriste never seen the whole movie but the battle scene is *chef's kiss*