@MysteriousOklahoma Lucky it was just a cut and nothing worse. I snapped off a seat post during a 12 hour mtn bike race, had to finish the last 5 hours with my seat about 2" too low (It had snapped right at the seat post clamp). Totally sucked trying to maintain any resemblance to speed
Happened to me once and jesus knows the pain. Cuts on my leg smashed my head against the frame and when i was on the floor couldnt even understand what happened... After that it took me some good time to trust on any bike again...
Even for someone who doesn’t really ride, just in parks. I first focused on the shocks but after a few noticed how so many chains are hitting the ground. Great vid
Bring on gearbox bikes. It’s crazy that we still have that delicate piece of gear hanging all the way off the beach when, getting smashed around like this!
@Emerald Triangle Yikes! Yeah I guess when it's driven by the weight of your body on the other pedal it becomes quite a weapon... we almost had a liveleak video here. I hope you can still ride! Also making a mental note to never use cheap crank arms, pedals, stems, seatposts etc...
Jeez, I'm just watching the back tire get flattened and the chain getting slammed into the ground. Until the last one, that hurt my soul, imagine the pedal on ur bike just snapping off. . . Serious oof right there
Its the vpp. One of my dh bike is 10" with 3.2:1 to 2:1 progressivity. Very good other old hidden away design uses two shocks for crazy awesome bottomless 10". Both are bottomless feeling and active as hell. With special lockout switch it tightens when you peddle... Secret to the grave until i decide to produce that one. 25 years ive had 10". Thats what she said btw....
Better clutch materials for better chain dampening mostly, stronger frames and more efficient weight savings, also better sleeve berings that last much longer. bikes have been evolving in many ways for a while, just slowly. My budget giant bike probably needs a better front fork as the bike is much heavier in the front due to the coil spring shock and thick tubes despite only having 100mm of travel.
Can we all agree, serious props to 510 shoes?! That freaking pedal was still stuck to his shoe after it hit the ground AND got pulled under the tire. That is some sticky rubber! Who needs clips with with flat shoes like that :)
@@richardrutishauser4689 510 shoes are amazing, which I find to be a bummer. They were bought out by Adidas a while ago and did the standard "evil corporation" thing of getting rid of the employees that made it great in the first place. Many of them went on to start Ride Concepts and other good smaller companies. I always want to support smaller business if I can and I have tried all of them, but not a single one has the clipped in feel of 510s. I assume it is a patent thing.
On many bikes you can see the front wheel and fork go in to 1st mode resonance, while going through the fork travel, giving a lumpy travel through the stroke! Also crazy how short the wheelbase gets with a slack HTA.
I was thinking the same thing... I wonder how a linkage fork like the Amp f4 or the later versions of the Girvin Vector forks would perform in comparison I am thinking of making a "new tech" version of the Vector fork with fox or DT shock and 100-120mm travel
Thats nothing man, look at the chains, every single one of them is performing a "wave". Once you pay attention, you wait for the next wave. Some waves are legendary 😂
All 5 hardtails handled this drop very well. 2- canyon stoic 11- norco fluid 17- vitus sentier 23- rocky mountain growler 26- bmc twostroke. Impressive. But my gawd that last crank snapping could have caused some serious injury. I'm glad it didn't.
the implications of this would be super interesting. putting accelerometers on your ankles hips and head repeating this and showing the data would be so intresting!
Glad the starling didn't do anything weird, mine arrives in a week or two! Interesting to see the cushcore working, clearly visible in the deforming tyres
Anyone else notice the SID on the Trek spitting suspension fluid upon bottom out? I was trying to see if it was raining 🌧? It is ok to put more than 10 psi in your tires btw😂
That T8 at 1:12 looks mean lowered - I'm going to go drop the air out of mine, crank up some doof-doof on the UE Boom and go do some sick skids in the mall carpark.
Wow, the crank broke on the last one. Im a cnc machinist but specialize in aerospace castings. The strength of some of those cast aluminum and steel parts is absolutely incredible.
Almost all of the full suspension ones the rear wheel is bouncing. So it looks like the rear is not so much dampening the movement, more like just a spring.
@@pe3117 I am just looking at the video and I see that after contact the front suspension compresses a bit, then the frame flexes then the suspension compresses in a staggered manner until full compression. For optimal smoothness the suspension should receive impact force that is parallel with the stanchions. The more off the angle of the force is less smooth and more stress(stichtion?). Also more stress on the head tube due to the flex resulting in a slacker head tube angle. This is for example why Fox uses the floating axles although that is to combat lateral forces (not an engineer but that is kind of the point)
@@danielbicioc4214 i would assume that under normal conditions the HTA is the main contributor. Under high load and variable terrain (exactly where you need the suspension to be working optimally) is when flex comes into play. naturally this is improved by having a zeb or fox 38 but also DH forks
@@andrmikg Yep You are right. Due to the HT and fork flex the front wheel and fork goes into 1st mode resonance giving a lumpy and staggered compression the the fork.
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That last shot of the crank arm snapping off was scary. Just slipping off or missing a pedal is bad enough.
@MysteriousOklahoma Lucky it was just a cut and nothing worse. I snapped off a seat post during a 12 hour mtn bike race, had to finish the last 5 hours with my seat about 2" too low (It had snapped right at the seat post clamp). Totally sucked trying to maintain any resemblance to speed
I hope his foot is fine
Happened to me once and jesus knows the pain. Cuts on my leg smashed my head against the frame and when i was on the floor couldnt even understand what happened... After that it took me some good time to trust on any bike again...
Crank arm did not snap. Pedal axle did.
@@kisong1960 L@@K AGAIN 👀
0:00 Grim Donut V2
0:10 Canyon Stoic
0:14 We Are One Arrival
0:19 Starling Murmur
0:24 Norco Range VLT
0:28 Santa Cruz Blur TR
0:33 Ghost Riot Trail
0:39 Rocky Mountain Element
0:43 Ibis Ripley AF
0:48 Propain Hugene
0:53 Norco Fluid
0:58 Trek Top Fuel
1:02 Yeti 160E
1:07 Polygon Siskiu
1:12 Raaw Jibb
1:17 YT Capra
1:22 Vitus Sentier
1:26 Scor 4060 ST
1:32 Norco Range
1:36 Marin Rift Zone
1:42 Specialized Stump Jumper Evo Alloy (mouthful)
1:46 Commencal Meta Power
1:50 Rocky Mountain Growler
1:56 Niner Jet 9 RDO
2:00 GT Force
2:05 BMC Twostroke
2:10 Giant Trance Advanced Pro 29
2:15 Transition Spire
2:20 Giant Trance X
2:25 Canyon Lux Trail
2:30 Devinci Marshall
2:34 Specialized Turbo Kenevo SL Crank Splatter 9000
the last one was terrible...
The last one 💀
Look at the specialized XD he wrote mouthful lol as a joke lol
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So satisfying to watch 😁 Except ankle on the last one 🧐
Ankle looked painful
Must be hurts a lot
Although that was also satisfying to see just how grippy those Five-Tens are. The pedal broke off and his shoe STILL didn’t lose grip on it.
Carbon fiber cranks on a mtb seems like a bad idea.
U’re right
Please, please stop cutting these too short! Let us see the extension as well.
This!!!!
Please.
@@somethingelsehere8089 yes!
+1
+1
@@keithstephens1022 .
Even for someone who doesn’t really ride, just in parks. I first focused on the shocks but after a few noticed how so many chains are hitting the ground. Great vid
Seeing all those chains hitting the ground has me considering one of those bottom chain guides
And I’m surprised the derailleur clutch didn’t tamp some of that down
People should never have stopped using them
@@krinkedsurface following this comment, I got the one from Cascade Components and now I couldn't agree more
Get a gearbox bike with a belt drive
Funny how the dirt bike world has had chain guards for a long time!
It's crazy how much the jockey cage gets thrown around on some of these. It looks like it's taking quite the beating.
Just noticed the same thing. Crazy
Bring on gearbox bikes. It’s crazy that we still have that delicate piece of gear hanging all the way off the beach when, getting smashed around like this!
Some of those chains really get slapped to the ground.
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@@joesimmonds2849 delicate 😂😂😂😂 thats like telling petrol vehicles are a waste bring non electric vehicles, u talk like a kid
Whoa, is his ankle aight?
I think they mentioned in the Kenevo review that he wasn't injured
That snapped crank is probably pretty sharp too...
@Emerald Triangle Yikes! Yeah I guess when it's driven by the weight of your body on the other pedal it becomes quite a weapon... we almost had a liveleak video here. I hope you can still ride! Also making a mental note to never use cheap crank arms, pedals, stems, seatposts etc...
@@GoAndPractice Or in this case maybe a mental note better not to use carbon cranks 😳
He broke his ankle th-cam.com/video/HffopSLCX1U/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=MahalomyDude
2:21 man that rear mech didnt even try to fight 😂
Jeez, I'm just watching the back tire get flattened and the chain getting slammed into the ground. Until the last one, that hurt my soul, imagine the pedal on ur bike just snapping off. . . Serious oof right there
i broke a spindle of a pedal over summer 21. i thought my crank arm had fallen off lmao
@@letsgetscabs367 What kind of trail were u riding when it snapped?
I was thinking the same thing. I couldn't get my eyes off the rear tire and wonder what pressure they were running
@@MTBMOR Same, I'll bet it's below 20 psi
Great content! "Progressivity" looks an awful lot like bottoming twice.
Yeah I was impressed by this; a bottom out from the initial impact, then a secondary bottom out as his weight lands through the bike, very cool stuff
By the looks of things it's the tyre rebounding into the suspension
Except its not bottoming because it's still free to move and doesn't give abrupt hit ..
Its the vpp.
One of my dh bike is 10" with 3.2:1 to 2:1 progressivity. Very good other old hidden away design uses two shocks for crazy awesome bottomless 10". Both are bottomless feeling and active as hell. With special lockout switch it tightens when you peddle... Secret to the grave until i decide to produce that one. 25 years ive had 10". Thats what she said btw....
Amazing that derailleur tech has not evolved very much yet the pricing has evolved exponentially
Better clutch materials for better chain dampening mostly, stronger frames and more efficient weight savings, also better sleeve berings that last much longer. bikes have been evolving in many ways for a while, just slowly. My budget giant bike probably needs a better front fork as the bike is much heavier in the front due to the coil spring shock and thick tubes despite only having 100mm of travel.
Seriously! I had a similar jump and my derailleur broke 15km away from home at 5 am😓😓. Was stuck there for 5 more hours
Can we all agree, serious props to 510 shoes?! That freaking pedal was still stuck to his shoe after it hit the ground AND got pulled under the tire. That is some sticky rubber!
Who needs clips with with flat shoes like that :)
I am a dedicated roadie/clipless rider and that was...impressive, to say the least!
@@richardrutishauser4689 510 shoes are amazing, which I find to be a bummer. They were bought out by Adidas a while ago and did the standard "evil corporation" thing of getting rid of the employees that made it great in the first place. Many of them went on to start Ride Concepts and other good smaller companies. I always want to support smaller business if I can and I have tried all of them, but not a single one has the clipped in feel of 510s. I assume it is a patent thing.
@@Jordan-W in actually liking my crank brothers better than the five tens I've had
Love my 510’s
@@Jordan-W been using RC hellions for a year, for the price they have been amazing.
The first time I was just watching the forks, second time the shocks, great video
Crazy how many bikes appear to have contact between the tire and seat tube at full compression!!
That’s because they’re mounting ferris wheels to bikes nowadays
So amazing and satisfying except the last ankle and it looked like your ankle nearly broke!! Hope you are fine and amazing Hucking!!
You should do these from the transmission side so we can see how different derailleurs behave.
All useless
Definitely not good when the chain touch the ground
Everything is so much cooler in slow mo! And like everyone else, I loop the heck out of your uploads!🇺🇸
2:21 Poor derailleur!
On many bikes you can see the front wheel and fork go in to 1st mode resonance, while going through the fork travel, giving a lumpy travel through the stroke! Also crazy how short the wheelbase gets with a slack HTA.
I was thinking the same thing... I wonder how a linkage fork like the Amp f4 or the later versions of the Girvin Vector forks would perform in comparison
I am thinking of making a "new tech" version of the Vector fork with fox or DT shock and 100-120mm travel
Is that not the bushings binding because of fork flex? It's not as noticable on the (dual crown) fox 40s, yet still happens on the 38mm zebs.
all you need is lefty 2.0 :). Problem solved.
Thats nothing man, look at the chains, every single one of them is performing a "wave". Once you pay attention, you wait for the next wave. Some waves are legendary 😂
This is a case to run upside down forks they’re superior
The way those zebb's 36's and 38's slightly flex on hucking is a little scary
The amount of forward flex on some of those forks.
I would love to see a shot that is centered on the frame to see how much the frame itself flexes.
I tried this and it's actually harder to see the frame flexing. Maybe it would be more effective on a solid white background.
Shocked by how short the wheelbase gets and how much of the chain gets scraped along the floor! Mental!
Funny enough that hardtail seemed to do well..
That last one tho, felt it!
All 5 hardtails handled this drop very well.
2- canyon stoic
11- norco fluid
17- vitus sentier
23- rocky mountain growler
26- bmc twostroke.
Impressive.
But my gawd that last crank snapping could have caused some serious injury. I'm glad it didn't.
What cranks were they that snapped on the last one?
Praxis Carbon M30, custom offset
All carbon cranks are bad
@@wx2999 As bad as one of those bunnygirlss?
@@azertyuiop5503 not a very good advertisement for praxis if that is the case.
Love how the spokes don't even blink.
the chains slipping over the ground are most impressive :D
The s.bend really is a work of art. Great video.
love how the pedal is still on his shoe
That last one was brutal. Must be painful! I can't believe that crank broke in half.
the implications of this would be super interesting. putting accelerometers on your ankles hips and head repeating this and showing the data would be so intresting!
Glad the starling didn't do anything weird, mine arrives in a week or two! Interesting to see the cushcore working, clearly visible in the deforming tyres
Legends: watching the suspension*
That snapped crank at the end is going to give me nightmares about all of my carbon cranks. I'm assuming those were carbon cranks.
The forks look like they're gonna snap. Crazy how far forward they stretch.
I see the maestro system like in the trek is absolutely legend, that suspension system is really good
Giant X - someone forgot to switch the clutch on the rear mech, eh? :)
Nada, that's just how bad SX is. Deore is like 70 bucks cheaper for the whole groupset than SX
I dont was thinking That the specialized cranke will broke 👀
And the winner is,,,, the tyres. fascinating watching how quick the recover, couldn't see on all but does illustrate their quality
Dude the last one holy maccaroni😯
Wow breaking the crank arm on the sworks!
Bonjour,
C'est la roue arrière qui morfle !
Au passage on voit bien le travail des suspensions et de la chaîne 😱
The sync with music is excellent
The annual yeeting of the bikes
My favorites are when the chain slaps the ground like the Ghost Riot.
the person who filmed this is amazing
the grim dount v2 looks epic
The giant trans x at 2.19 looked like it about snapped the derailleur right off!! 😮
I noticed that too, it inverted and the chain was flying everywhere
Quality crank arms on that levo.
Anyone else notice the SID on the Trek spitting suspension fluid upon bottom out? I was trying to see if it was raining 🌧? It is ok to put more than 10 psi in your tires btw😂
Similar behaviour for the Fox 34 on the niner Jet 9. Is it really fork fluid?
I think these were really rain drops more than fluid
That ankle looks like it was sore after that pedal broke off😳 thats some serious force to do that
RIP ankle
The hardtails looked better on those slams!
all th e forks flex like crazy !!!!!!!!!
the grim donut is the new industry standard
@2:38 the pedal strikes back- RIP ankle!
This is wild and fun to watch! Y’all brethrens gonna need some new Achilles’ tendons though at this rate!
BOTTOMING OUT is an understatement lol
Great to see HTs on this video!
2:21
Was the clutch turned off there? Haha
SRAM SX
Wow. I never seen something like this. Look at the chains. .. 🤯
The last one is insane!!
That rocky mountain looks like it could snap in half
Watching this with covid. Got my bones rattling
Amazing the chains stay on some how
Chains blow my mind!!!
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PD: 2:38 Ouch!!!!! 😨
0:20 The frame is like a rubber band
We need more vids about the grim donut v2!! and og fck! That kenevo SL crank breaking was insane! I hope his poor ankles are ok.
I'm surprised the chain didn't fall off on any of those did you see the flex in the chain and him hopping away on the last jump, LOL
That T8 at 1:12 looks mean lowered - I'm going to go drop the air out of mine, crank up some doof-doof on the UE Boom and go do some sick skids in the mall carpark.
Propaine looked super rigid and smooth. Possibly harsh to ride therefore
that first bike was racked out like a Jesse james chopper even before impact
Amazed the chains aren’t popping off.
Man, this dude has a lot of MTBs!! Whereas me only had 1 citybike...
I also watched the specialized stumpjumper in the last video and now the evo alloy and both of them really handled that chain slap really good.
Ouch man, that last one is so painful to watch.
Throw the Pyga Slakline in the mix 🤘
Those Chain Slacks tho! Impressive
This is amazing, thank you!!!
Wow, the crank broke on the last one.
Im a cnc machinist but specialize in aerospace castings. The strength of some of those cast aluminum and steel parts is absolutely incredible.
Thats a crank from carbon fibre
@@milansasin4653 CF over rated bling don't trust it
Almost all of the full suspension ones the rear wheel is bouncing. So it looks like the rear is not so much dampening the movement, more like just a spring.
0:43 Ibis Ripley's rear tyre is balls to the wall
Thank you. For all of it.
2:22 Oooh deym REST IN PEACE rd hahahahaha jesus!
Ouch the last one !
I felt that last one. Ouch 😳
Excellent work :)
aaaaaaarrrh the last one ! :o ouch !
Every fork flexes before they compress.
It looked like all the carbon frames had enormous flex which interfered with the performance of the front suspension.
They don’t interference nothing...Carbon flex and with the suspension is part of the absorption on the impact....🤷♂️
@@pe3117 I am just looking at the video and I see that after contact the front suspension compresses a bit, then the frame flexes then the suspension compresses in a staggered manner until full compression. For optimal smoothness the suspension should receive impact force that is parallel with the stanchions. The more off the angle of the force is less smooth and more stress(stichtion?). Also more stress on the head tube due to the flex resulting in a slacker head tube angle. This is for example why Fox uses the floating axles although that is to combat lateral forces (not an engineer but that is kind of the point)
Surely the head tube angle would play a bigger role there
@@danielbicioc4214 i would assume that under normal conditions the HTA is the main contributor. Under high load and variable terrain (exactly where you need the suspension to be working optimally) is when flex comes into play. naturally this is improved by having a zeb or fox 38 but also DH forks
@@andrmikg Yep You are right. Due to the HT and fork flex the front wheel and fork goes into 1st mode resonance giving a lumpy and staggered compression the the fork.
Shiiiiit! His ankle on the Specialized...
Dual crown FTW
the chain is the biggest surprise, holy shit.
Interesting to watch some handlebars flex more than others.
Lovely last one hurts
My bones hurt from watching this 😂😂
Almost like cliffs in pano, remember that lol i hope you walked away. Aluminium for life 😁
Holy shit! The last crank snap reminded me of the time i snapped my tibia in two back in 2010! 😭