IS A TUNED BMW 335D ACTUALLY FAST?!
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The torque converter and oil in the zf8 gearboxes are known for getting a bit hot after a couple of launch control runs, probably why your first run was the best in the 0 to 60's
Do they have an oil cooler?
@@CaptainMav very small one
And not a single puff of smoke. Beautiful
My previous 335d was 387bhp 757Nm 0-60 3.73 100-200 11.26 1/4 mile 12.05 and still averaged 38mpg.
why previous!! These things are weapons
Just buy a stock Tesla Model S Plaid. It will do 100 to 200 kmh in 3.99 secs all day long and costs nothing to recharge.
@@borinvlogscosts nothing to recharge…are you mental? I assume you don’t pay the electricity bills then lad
@@borinvlogs bell end comment
@Missed_Apex_GT my Tesla model 3 performance costs £4.50 to fully charge at home and I get 230 miles minimum out of it. 0-60 3.3 and 1/4 mile 11.7.
I have a 2014 535d. It's incredible how awesome the stock diesel is in it. 42-45 MPG on the highway is just amazing. Usually sits at 35 combined.
I love f30s, this channel, and diesel cars. Keep going!!
Looks about right, my f31 335d with 235000km 385hp 680nm does it at 12,60sec 100-200 at 12sec. 0-100 at 4.3sec 😊
You can see the revieuw at autotopnl jamie😊
I had a BMW 335d f31 stock and it did 12.8 seconds. 0-100 it did 4.6 seconds. do you think these are realistic figures for a stock 335d?
@@hastlermaffiayes the f series go very well off the mark like 1st 2nd gear which is what makes the times so impressive.
@@HighMiler330dI got stage 2 m140i with high pressure fuel pump and XHP3 gearbox tune just under 500bhp, I obliterated one these 435d diesels on the M1 about 8 car lengths
@@lukeskywalker1666 well yes you will do with 500bhp not rocket science.
They map to about 380 if healthy. No ones saying there fastest cars in the world but for a diesel they shift.
Quicker 0-60mph than my boyhood favourite car, the Ferrari F40! Nice Jamie!
It's mental isn't it? Anything sub 5 secs to 60 was a genuine supercar back in the day. Then the Escort Cossie started with it's 5.5 secs and everyone wanted to steal them. 😂😂😂
With 800nm of torque, fuel level isn't your enemy on this occasion. It's more likely to be the temperature and worn out Bridgestone tyres. Awesome figures for a diesel saloon though. Can't wait for the next video!!
Stock trap speed is around 105/106
Prepped track stock have saw 12.8
So you’ve got yourself decent gains for a stage 1+. Most of the boys in the 11s have the 18s on which pick up 3/4 mph extra trap speed .
Great video mate
I've got an F10 535d and this video has cemented my thoughts of getting it mapped! Awesome video Jamie!
Unfortunately the 535d is trash even with a map it will still feel slow not sure why been there dont that. Perhaps its too heavy and big.
Did you get it done in the end? I booked mine in with NVM yesterday🙏 straight to stage 2 from stock, excited like a kid in an expensive sweet shop!
@@Dustii91 how are you going to pass MOT with a stage 2? It will fail emissions test.
What a monster considering the weight and temps!! 💯🚀
Please get rid of the run-flats 😅
Love how n57 and m57s put some petrol to shame 💥🏎️
335d’s are a cheat code, what car can run 400hp and still do 35+mpg whilst being reliable 🔥
@@philip244Yes…
@@philip244i got a BMW E63 635D with 425HP and 800NM and it hauls all day without issues…
@philipt12345 Aslong as you service the Engine the 3 litre biturbo is pretty reliable
@@philip244it is reliable its just people change the oil every 15/20k then the bearings and chains start going.
Honourable mention to Audi’s 3.0 tdi, it’s only a single turbo but the one I had was quick and economical.
Wheres the 335d content gone?
Got my 435d xdrive modded by dark side developement 1000nm torque and 420bhp
Get high 11s on the quartermile excellent daily i get 50+ mpg still
M140i stage 2 with MHD with high pressure fuel pump and XHP3 gearbox map just under 500bhp on a rolling probably walk 8 car lengths on a 435d
With the outside temp and the fuel level, that's very good times 😎
we need to see this against a standard rs3 or a45s
Rs3 all day
@@shad3128no chance lad, owned both, the stage 1+ f30 was quicker than the standard rs3 in a straight line, but the handling was better in the audi.
I think an xhp gearbox tune (stage 3) and limit max rpm on each gear to get the most of it would definitely put you into 11’s
bmw are underrated
Hi Jamie, great results !
Like we chatted at the podium cafe meet the other day just give me a shout if you need any advice.
Remember my best stage 1+ was 3.55 0-60 and 11.66 @117 mph q/mile and 9.3 100-200kph (all times full weight and with 20" ps4's tyres
Then I added HPFP and rail sensor and car achieved 3.35 0-60 and 11.41@ 120mph and 8.75 100-200kph
Then took DPF out for a month just through curiosity and times were 0-60 3.1 and 11.27 q/mile and 8.56 100-200kph
Still using stock original turbos and injectors and no nos or meth.
Dpf was then put back in to keep it 100% road legal.
Flying
I’ve used Manol 5w40 in my BMW 3litre diesel for years,never had a problem but have changed it every six months and a filter every year. Using the vehicle in Sport Plus makes my X3 like a sports car and still gives over 40mpg on the motorway and 600miles on a full tank,don’t think I’ll be changing it for an EV anytime soon.
Gut your DPF and have it coded our forever, keeps the car legal, unlocks that tiny bit of performance and you’ll never have to worry about it clogging up and leaving you stranded!
The rail sensor is from the 50d isn't it? Is it direct swap? Or needs to be coded? Thanks
@@alexcucala I used a one supplied from GKR Performance.
That diesel torque making 1700kg move super fast 🔥🔥
Had a stage 1 435d amazing all round car but handled like a boat , from lower speeds it would fly up to speed but dies off higher up , now have a standard cupra 290 and from 30 onwards wouldn’t say there is much in it at all
I think you've hit the nail on the head. They're quick enough but not sporty compared to a petrol hot hatch with good chasis.
@@richiebtime489 Then put a suspension kit on that 435D as well and handling will be better.
@@jankees4037 you see that's my point, even with a suspension kit they're not sharp like a hot hatch.
its a 4WD bmw with SE suspension you can't compare it to a cupra which is a hot hatch made to handle and go quick. Weighs easily 200-300kg less.
@@piovo5222 fair point and maybe begs the question is it too powerful for the chassis?
Awesome video! I have a similar power wise 435d.
Next time as you say run less fuel as diesel is heavy, a bit of a cooler day will help, and maybe rice krispies for breakfast !!
Definitely get into the 11s then! 💪
I have a same car running 461bhp
My times are 11.5 1/4 with budget tyres
100-200 is 8.8 best so far
0-60 is 3.34 (budget tires)
So your times are good!
You only need high pressure fuel pump to run it at 450bhp
After that is turbo upgrade 😎
You still have the cats and dpf?
@@TheCinderellaman10no that will defo be a downpipe as well
After 390-400hp turbo is max out already…
6:13 because your a good driver that’s leading by example 😉
Awesome video bro, would be great to see the fam wagon do a og battle against a e92 335d and a e60 535d
Shell v power diesel fuel will make the 335d go even quicker.
Never seen a diesel launch like that 🔥🔥
Do not worry, you will exchange this at workshop 😂
If you're planning on getting it to the 500bhp+ territory you could even be seeing high 10s
Ultimate “Daily” 100% this car will get tuned till it reaches figures Jamie’s happy with, then an engine swap, possibly a B58 until it no longer becomes a “Daily” and we start again with another car……. And I’m 100% here for that
Had one of these a few years back rather rapid with the xdrive, not much would keep up on damp British roads
Wow this is rapid
Thanks for always posting the details too - times and speeds.
Love this channel
I'd get darkside to map it deffo. There's no smoke atall. U will get a better time using the paddles mate
I come across one of these in my GTI, I could just about keep up with it, but then we all know the BMW 335D is the fastest car in the world, ever.
He/she was either not racing or a sh*t driver because a gti hasn't got a prayer. I traded a golf R for a f30 35d xdrive, the beemer is quicker than the R so the dream on in a gti 😂.
@@KeepitrealpeepsI’m wanting to get one but don’t do many miles, is it worth it you think?
Got a 435d msport. Stage 2. Mtec cooler, pipercross filter, and decat with quad pipes. Decent map @400 bhp and gearbox map. I bought it out a salvage yard with fucked bumper n lights. 64k on clock. 16 plate for £5500 and spent 2k repairing it lol. The thing is an absolute beast of a car for £7500. And holds its own with M4s. Absolutely love these BM diesels. Folk used to laugh if you brought a diesel to a car cruise until they gained a lot of respect for inhalating 80% of the moded petrol hot hatches at cruises and still returns 34 mpg!!
Holds it down with m4a maybe off the light after 40mph m4 even stock m4 would pull about 8 car lengths
@lukeskywalker1666 that's absolute bollocks. Unless you have both of em youl know. The M4 is only 425 bhp and a feeble 400 lb ft torque. A stage 2 tuned 8 speed 435d can get to 440 bhp with a ridiculous 600+ lb torque..... it literally weighs the same, has similar bhp but 200 lb ft of torque more... so it's then all down to the gearing. And if the 8 speed zf slush box has been tuned for shifting then it's game over M4. Unless it's remapped too... but even still the mapped M4s ain't all that much faster unless they are hybrid turbo set up and pushing more than 600bhp is the only time they will get the torque levels remotely close to the 600 lbs ft that the 35ds put out. Look em up or just go get one and race em yourself. There's not that many cars that put put 600 lb ft of torque mate... a rolls Royce cullinan or a big old school v8 even struggle to hit those levels. And if u you about racing youl know just how important torque is in racing, much more than bhp. Especially for in gear acceleration pr rolling races. Realistically what you would be doing when out and about. As your hardly gonna be straight line racing from 0 - 100mph in public easily... M4s are geared differently to utilise the fact it doesn't have as much torque and geared for a bigger top speed too... but they are very comparable to eachother in terms of direct performance. The M4 obviously have a nicer soundtrack, look more aggressive and have a better feel but cost 3 times the prices and drink 3 times as much juice! A 35d you can easily use as an every day smoker no problem at all.
@@rustybaws5313 the old m4a stock are 444bhp but dyno around 470bhp, then u just buy a downpipe, MHD stage 2 license for about 300 quid and do XHP3 gearbox tune on the m4 ur pushing around 580bhp, it’s curtains for the cheap diesel, plus the old m4s are very cheap, look way better and way better handling, either ways I have m140i stage 2 with high pressure fuel pump and XHP3 Zf map around 500bhp left one of these 435d on the M1 about 8 car lengths
@@lukeskywalker1666 Pointless. A 435d can be tuned to 520bhp and 900 NM of torque, and xHP also has a stage 3 map for the diesel that unlocks the torque even at lower revs. It all depends on the cost you are willing to put into it. In an every day drive the 35d (stage 1 tuned) is faster than a stock M4. Why? Because more torque and the fact that the gearbox is always on the sweetspot. More torque means that the power comes in earlier and a greater avarage power delivery. If you do not want to be supprised by an 35d or 40d you should always drive the M3/M4 at 6000 rpm. Nobody does that.
And by the way, petrol bhp and diesel bhp are not one on one comparable. A 400bhp diesel shall surely outperform any 500bhp petrol car. Those are maximum power levels, not average power levels. By design a diesel has a greater average power delivery across the rmp bandwith. My M550D with 470bhp/850NM and xHP map was faster than an Ferarri 458 (570bhp/540NM).
@@Scott-mv1fk yea maybe faster till about 40 mph then the petrol would faceroll ur car/ torque is not bhp, a Ford diesel van has a lot of torque doesn’t mean it’s fast, diesels are absolute garbage cars that run on vegetable oil/ torque more power on the pull/ horsepower = faster engine more horses the faster the engine works, learn simple maths bro
Performance and efficiency, what a car!
What efficiency? Are you mad? Perhaps if you drive like gran dad. My friend has 535d, town drivinh 15-20l consumption, open road 8 to 10l..😂
Impressive car. Diesel FTW!
The 35d’s are awesome from 0-60 but acceleration does trail off after 100mph in comparison
Nice DD Jamie! We across the pond lighting candles and throwing around holy water for them 11's bro, keep at it , it's coming!
Baby’s love g force ! Puts em straight to sleep 😂. Hope the capsule has a catch net, and good lady OG has a lighter right foot . ❤😂
Diesel powaaaaahhhhh 🔥🔥
They’re fast as standard, from a stand still they accelerate like you’ve been hit by a bus thanks to the torque of the diesel turbo lump
Let’s go Jamie. What’s latest on upgrades too the daily??? Video update please ✌️
If you run them on HVO they make serious power. 70+ cetane compare to 50odd on standard diesel and zero smoke dpf out ( that if you find HVO nearby)
You need to go manual mode man. My 435d i noticed it shifts to soon and wont run the whole rev range. Soon as I change to manual it feels so much better!
This is going to be my next car soon but as that been said I can't wait until what he does to this one awesome ....what I do get my BMW f30 335d I just be happy with a remap but a can't wait how this one turned out, you are awesome brother it going to be a good journey and congratulations bean a dad ❤
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@@NVMotorsportUK when I do get my 335d am coming to see you brov , you mad scientist 👊👊👊
I thought lower cetane ratings were desired for diesel whereas higher octane is to gasoline engines
Solid effort 💪 looking forward to seeing the progress
3/4 of a tank and a boot full of oil 😂
got to love the m57 platform im currently welding up my turbo kit for my 500bhp build
This car is the newer n57, good potential power and more economical than the older m57. Just not quite as strong
@@NomadJRGits just the chain and bearings that ruin these N57s unfortunately if only it had the strength of the M57 it would have been crazy. I know the newer B57s are super strong idk if its M57 level but its much better then N57.
I just want a duel hpfp set up so I can get more I'll be happy when I throw a rod then I turn it down 10%😂
This is N57, piece of crap.
Could it make a difference if you was to 2nd gear launch it?
Jamie how much did the mods cost?
Seem like the best value bang for bucks mods to any car for the performance gained 👍🏻
Is there any update on this ??
I was just watching you and Mat racing Porsche at Carwow, when this showed up on my screen , go Jamie goo 😁
I would like to see how this car would stack against my 335D. I’m running stage 3 hybrids with stage 3 map plus other mods, my Running 475bhp 970nm
What mods do you have to do to the torque converter bcos doesn’t it have a limit stock of around 800nm?
@@Yacknocheesy stock injectors,R90 fuel pump, M50D fuel rail sensor, stage 3 hybrid turbos, stage 3 map, gearbox map, big intercooler, big cone air intake, 3” exhaust system, swirl flaps delete, EGR delete maybe more can’t remember. I have a 2007 LCI model the clutches and gearboxes are good for just over 1000nm
Could of saved alot of time by just recording all the times from the first 0-60 time. Would of been a great 1/4 and keep it In to get the extra 20mph on the terminal to get the 100-200 time. But of course its TH-cam. Need to get over the 10min time.
its fast, and if u have xdrive, it is a gti killer for sure.
How far are you going with this build? I have a 550hp 335d here in the states. I can get you a list of mods to do. : )
What’s the list? N57?
M57 dual hpfp hybrid turbos wagner evo3 and a few other goodies.@@DWA7N3
wish we had the Xdrive over here traction is def an issue. but 7.15 100-200 is pretty good for a car getting north of 35 mpg.@@DWA7N3
Great to see you on carwow again bro your Porsche is seriously fast keep up the good work Jamie
The only issue with these beasts are the turbos. bloody silences the diesel
Saw you on car wow, great videos brother
Owner of the claimed 590bhp 535d on llf obvioulsy wasnt 590 later got it on dyno it where 505. Sold the car last year and picking up a 335 touring next week just typed in youtube 335 xdrive first drive and jamie you came up..
On NVM website they say ECU stage 1 and gearbox map, CSF intercooler and Pipercross panel filter 373BHP from stock power of 293BHP for the 335D but stage 2 with the same mods with Decat Downpipe 393BHP from stock power of 308BHP. Why is there 15BHP difference in the stock values from the same engine? Does this mean that the Decat only adds 5BHP?
Heya mate do you have a link for that Race Logic you are using I’m interested in buying one thanks
For the next step, Jamie's 335d need to join the "DARKSIDE" 😈
Because its a diesel the times are gonna get worse because its hotter than the last run
Enjoying this content jamie lad, as recently got me a 435d and have the same mods, minus the intercooler!
I thought those diesels meant to be fast, I got 140i stage 2 with high pressure fuel pump around 500bhp, pulled on one these 435d about 8 car lengths on motorway
@@lukeskywalker1666 Stock 435d is not that fast. Stage 1 makes a huge difference, specially with xHP map combined. Your 140i can not beat the 800NM of torque.
@@Scott-mv1fk torque is not bhp, my m140i would beat that smoke train in reverse, all depends what u want u want a car with good pull then torque if u want a car to be fast it’s BHP, if torque was the case then every sports car would be derailed by torque power and not bhp
@@lukeskywalker1666 You don't seem to uderstand that you need torque and revs to have power. BHP is just a measurement of the maximum power at a certain rpm. The car with the highest torque over all revs is faster, because it producer more average power. Peakpower is not very interesting, thats more a marketing thing. So yes, bhp makes speed, but torque makes bhp and acceleration. Btw, i have owned a 335d and a 335i at the same time (business and private) and I can asure you the stage 1 335d (360hp) was MUCH faster than the 335i that was tuned to approx 400hp.
@@Scott-mv1fk wrong again, bhp more horses the faster the engine works, torque is more pull, hence why coaches and vans run on diesel cos they have strong pull doesn’t mean the engines faster, simple maths just google it, torque alright to have but if u want speed it’s all about break horse power how many horses u got running under the bonnet simple maths
My stage 2 335d did 10.4 100-200 but i had to go from a roll and short shift manually rather then rev it out and it was a sefond faster
My stage 1 Mk7R does 0-100 km/h in 3.68 and 402 ind 11.77. So i think stage 2 should be a lot quicker no?
For a while I seriously considered a 335d Xdrive estate to replace my Cupra 4drive estate as on paper they're very similar. However, after test driving two BMW's I really didn't feel they were, so I'd love to see you to pit them against each other (in standard spec).
They're quicker than a cupra. I've test drove the golf r and the 35d was quicker...the cupra is basically the same, especially the 4 wheel drive one and the seat is a pile of shit full stop really....compared to a bmw.
I thought you had plans for this car, stage 2? C’mon bro, do it. 😊
Just a thought, and no disrespect meant. Try coming off the break pedal sideways. Loving the content. Also what tyre pressures do you run?
any suspension mods to stop the floaty ride?
To answer your question =
Yes a tuned bmw 335d is fast. i have one so i know.
I don’t recall you ever mentioning it but are your 0-60 mph measurements with 1ft rollout option enabled or disabled? Also, wouldn’t be cooler to start measuring 0-100kmh instead of 0-60mph? Like 100-200 for example
1ft roll out is an American thing. Jamie doesn’t do that. It’s also mph in the UK. 100km/h is 62mph so it’s near enough the same.
@@ThrottleBodyAnd THIS is the U.K.!
Bloodclart gas out respect.
Brakeboost harder, everything off and 2cond gear 😬 works great for me in the e91 380hp 800nm
What an amazing daily
Time to put this against a stage 2 GTI 7.5 and see what happens
Very Nice! I wonder what you could get out of a 440d G Series
My Daily is Called Arthur 😁
I have a 330d xdrive, stage 1 is 313bhp and 666nm and that makes a lot of cars surprised. I really should've got the 335 instead lol
I have a lower 320D tuned (250bhp, 500nm), and it is already such a sleeper on the road. You can go so fast everywhere.
Jamie, want to race my stage 1 E92 335i?
fazer12779 you got no chance. 335i stage1 is about 370 bhp and you end up in garage with engine problems after the race if yours is n54
My facelift is also remapped to 400bhp (stage 1). Gives me an average of 35mpg, is ulez exempt and a perfect sleeper family car! Oh, i also have it in the classic Estoril blue M sport package :-)
Your not getting 400bhp just off a stage 1 map, sorry to break ur bubble
@@georgekyriacou9331 okay. Whatever you say bro.
Then you must have the best diesel fuel you can get your hands on. According to some diesel with a high cetane value And according to some diesel that is not Is biodiesel or mixed with RME
Would i need to upgrade anything if getting stage 1 on 335d?
Wow, monster. Would embarress me and my RS4, need to get some more power out of it to get below 4 seconds 0-60 lol.
Good times when you consider you can pick these up for 10k now. I have been considering one as a daily dog snotter. If I’m a lil honest I’m a bit disappointed with the times The way the 335d boys go on online but then again I suppose it’s a perspective thing if that’s the quickest car they’ve had then of course they’re gonna big it up. That’s what I love about vbox and dragy the data is right there
The car is 400HP and Jamie is worth 50HP guaranteed gapping right there.
Probably would get into the 11's on a cold day as the turbos would would perform better.
Very good times for a diesel!
Some better tires might be enough to push it just that little bit more.
My dream daily. 😍😍😍
Love this car. What year is it?
Is it worth buying a diesel when I don’t do long journeys everyday?
Exactly 94K miles afetr those runs......nicely run in now...haha.. really strong engine to pull those times....
Got the same car same mileage as you what was the price for the stage1+ package?
It doesnt mess around
Racelogic should update the screen hardware, it looks so dated with that huge bezel and small screen.
Bro it’s your guns I mean they look like they weigh at least 20kg each 😂💪🏻