Same here I just order parts and modify if necessary ....but been doing this forever. For someone without mechanical ability though might need that warranty.
I wanted one of these, and I was a Taurus fan who spent countless hours debating haters and naysayers. Now that they changed their warranty, I refuse to purchase from them. With Taurus, spare parts will be impossible to find, so you'll have a paperweight if something goes wrong. Even if you use their warranty service within the first year, you'll have to pay to ship it to them, and then you'll have to wait several months before it's shipped back.. With all that said and with similarly priced Rugers, Caniks, S&Ws, etc on the market that comes with excellent CS and/or parts availability, only a fool would purchase a new Taurus now.
Many people that have sent a gun back to Taurus to be fixed had their guns returned over a year later. I bought a PT111 and i cracked the rear slide cover with normal use. I called Taurus and fought them for almost a year. I finally got them to send me the parts. So what good is a warranty if they do not cover it anyway. These are cheap throwaway guns anyway, just realize when you buy one it may be a paperweight someday.
Have you ever bought a Beretta, or savage....both have 1 year warranty period, Winchester has no written, implied, zero lifetime, no Warranty for custom guns.
I just picked up this week my TH9C (compact) version and a Rossi RS22 rifle for $299 from Academy. The pistol was $299 and the rifle free...broke it down cleaned it as it was filthy and will be taking it out this weekend to see how it behaves. The little rifle is really nice...lightweight semi auto with a nice trigger. Should have some fun with both and by the way the Rossi has a lifetime warranty for those that think it's a big deal
Taurus pistols generally are very dirty out of the box because they cake it with that shipping grease. I might have grabbed that deal if I didn't already have the TH9 and a PT-111 G2.
Awesome gun. Just got mine and put about 500 rounds through it. Got home took slide off and couldn't get it back on. Saw you're video and it's back on. Dunno what I was doing lol but it's waaay easier than any other pistol I've ever had. Think guide rod/ barrel wasn't in right spot. Def my bad. First Taurus I own and it's great. Awesome vid man.
the magazine release is designed like a screw and has a cam effect so it can be operated from both sides causing the slow or sticky feeling.the release button also does a slight turn while being depressed. a single sided release only has to slide straight across to release normally. the mag release button innards could probably be polished somehow.
Taurus is going to the 1 year warranty on products made after 1/17/2018 and have gotten away from the internal locks on the newer models as many of the new models are upgraded re-released models under a different model number. This is part of their quality control improvement.
I tend to agree with you. I also have to wonder if part of the shortened warranty has to do with Taurus getting caught up with all the recalls. We shall see.
I’ve got one just like it. I wasn’t particularly crazy about the trigger action but after you get used to it, it not a problem. Taurus gets a bad name because of the price but I can use it to protect my house just as well as a $2000 gun.
Single action is nice. Double action works but definitely leaves something to be desired. It's not really noticeable anyway, and since it cycles to single action it doesn't really matter to me what the double action does.
Sui778 I don’t even use the double action. Like you said, it does leave something to be desired. I was talking about how far you have to pull on the trigger before it fires. But once you get to know the gun, you’ll automatically know where the firing point is. So I guess it really doesn’t matter, just as long as you know your gun.
Walther Creed with lifetime warranty can be had sub $300 take home, similar pricing I have seen on S&W MP 9 for around $300 also with lifetime warranty. I just bought a Creed in 9 mm to stow out in the truck. The Creed shoots great, accurate and very well made. I couldn't bring myself to spend the same amount of money on a gun that Taurus won't stand for. I like the TH though and l actually own a 30 year old PT 99 and it has over 10,000 rounds through it without a problem, just got it back from the Gunsmith with a clean bill of health and she is still true, but Taurus has changed!
I just bought this gun and was saddened to learn it only has a limited one year warranty. I am surprised they stopped providing a lifetime warranty since they have such a questionable history with quality. I don't know why anyone would buy any gun from Taurus with only a one year warranty. I now have to decide if I will keep it for a cheap backup or sell it off. Shame on Taurus for not making this more clear to its customers.
Well you have a year to decide - so far mine has performed flawlessly. I have had absolutely no problems with any of my Taurus guns save the TCP's pickiness about hollow points at first.
Budsgunshop offers a Supplemental Lifetime warranty for 14 bucks. got that with mine. Total all said only payed $308 from buds. not bad for a 9mm, the gun looks great heard these are really dirty, but mine was pretty much clean. Haven't shot it yet, but have been testing it with some snap caps and is functional. Like the video though the mag release button is sticking as hell.
When I've disassembled handguns with those levers, I grip the gun in my shooting hand and hold the slide back with my index finger, using my free hand to pull the lever down and then releasing my index finger to let the slide move forward to the disengaged position to allow for the rest of disassembly.
It's a lot easier to do when you're not standing behind a tripod - I was at an oddball angle so it ended up looking a lot more difficult than it really is.
With having many 1911's and it being a hammer fired gun. breaking them down to clean a reassemble them it is easier to do with the hammer cocked, also it is the actual first step in disassemble of a 1911 is to cock the hammer. Just a side note
Doing a little research on the TH9, trying to decide on getting the TH9 or the Ruger Security 9. But on the double action trigger pull on the TH9 you said maybe 9-10 lbs on the trigger pull, I can tell you by experience with other double action triggers that I've own 9-10 lb double action trigger pull is very good, but the gritty trigger isn't good. The Security 9 is a hammer fire gun but the Hammer is internal but no gritty feel when pulling trigger. But I like the decocker on the TH9, Security 9 has a safety which I don't care for. But on to more research.
It only feels gritty when the trigger is pulled slowly - when you pull it faster it's barely noticeable. I was guessing on the 9-10 pound pull. I have a Lyman gauge coming in and I'll test both single and double on it in the follow up review I'm planning on doing before too much longer. Mag buttons are a bit sticky but they do work and eject the magazine properly. Other than that there really isn't much to complain about with this firearm, although it's a bit annoying that it's almost impossible to find extra mags for the thing.
Tauras actually used to have a security lock on the gun and would include a tool for it it in all honesty still does however for this particular pistol it is used to adjust the sights or punching out roll pins for changing backstraps
I just picked up one..but the TH9C they don't come with back straps guess only the full size..but least i got a free Rossi 22lr rifle with it..blk Friday deal
Only thing I don't like about the 809 is the pinking extension on a full-size mag - was Andre the Giant (RIP) on the grip engineering team? Will the TH9 mags fit the 809?
Thanks for sharing! Is there any update on mags availability?Thinking of buying this TH9 as a back up competition gun. A 3 or 4 mags with 17 bullet capacity will ensure that I don't go home if my my STI GP6 malfunctions during the game. More power to you Sui778!
I had no problems with mag release great shooting budget 9 I was impressed tauras had a bad rap back in the day but has stepped up their game making nice pistols for the price point I bought my th 9 for 250 and like it a lot it's accurate gritty trigger for double action on single action nice crisp trigger
Thanks! I have a pt111 g2 but am really more interested in the compact version as a carry pistol or at least how it compares in feel to my hk usp 40 compact.
The dimensions between the HK and the TH9C are almost identical but I'm willing to bet the trigger breaks much further back on the TH9C (Taurus pistols are famous for this). The single action on my TH9 is just fine but the double action leaves a bit to be desired. Not that I'd ever bother shooting it in double action anyway.
just bought this from a gun show 2 days ago.. haven't had a chance to shoot it yet.. lol.. the magazine loader that was in the case wasn't even for a 9mm..?? it didnt fit..?? is that normal to see..?? and a lock which i didnt get.. so just gun show bs i guess..??
Honestly when I see someone trashing a limited warranty it makes me wonder just how well they really take care of and maintain their weapons. Yes there are legitimate failures that isn't the operator's fault but I suspect more often than not that it's a result of someone not keeping their guns maintained properly.
Theres nothing wrong with letting the slide slam forward with a 9mm or above....22 is when you will start running into issues...my question is have you tried the holsters for the PT809 if so are they compatible with the TH9?
Since TH9's are about a half inch shorter than the PT809, I dunno - might not work. I haven't tried fitting one in a PT-809 holster personally though - mine just stays in its case.
I'm not to familiar with the Taurus line of pistols, but I do have a couple of their revolvers. But I've always been curious about their line of pistols. But does the TH9 take the place of the PT809?
IS Taurus going to make the 809 in a compact version again since They discontinued it a long time ago? I would be interested in purchasing a 809 c, if they make it again
I was ready to purchase a G2C until I found out about the warranty change, I'll be looking at other compact pistols from manufacturers that will stand behind them, I might have to spend a little more but it is worth the peace of mind. sorry Taurus!
so these mags won't work in the 809? does anyone know?does any one know? has anyone ever freaking tried to slam this magazine in the 809? please let me know!!!
I don’t like warranties anyway because I do not want to send my gun out to be fixed. I would rather buy the parts and fix it myself. I took me almost a year but I finally got the parts to fix my PT111. They said they are fixing their customer services and retraining their people. I hope that is the case because Taurus has some good cheap guns.
They're just good guns - nevermind cheap - that's just a nice bonus. I own five of them and they all run very well. The thing about warranties is that companies will do anything they can to not honor it and that's not isolated to just gun manufacturers - it's pretty much every manufacturer. They WILL try to find a way to fault you for a broken product, plain and simple.
I love the video content, but I find it curious that the TH9 says USA, but physically it's made in Brazil. I guess its okay for Americans to spend money with Taurus, but yet we aren't good enough to work for them.,
Actually, on one side of the pistol it does say "MADE IN BRAZIL". The only two Taurus pistols that exclusively indicate "MIAMI, FL" are the TCP and the Spectrum, but that's because all of those pistols are (or were) made in the USA. The rest of the models, including my PT-111 G2 and 140 G2, all indicate somewhere on the gun that it was made in Brazil.
@@Sui778 I research the Miami Fl, this location for the Taurus TH9 is for customer service only, no manufacturing. But Smith and Wesson models are made in USA.
yep Taurus makes quality firearms and they are priced great. Also customer service is great. very nice people and the company treats there employees well. there Beretta clone is great. better metalergi than the Beretta. Also Taurus has made the most innovations compared to other manufactures. that's to all the Taurus haters that don't know what they are talking about. my 809 and pt92 have never jammed and I have fired every different kind of ammo I can find.
It's not as bad as it was when I first got it but it's still a bit stiff. I wouldn't call it a deal breaker anyway - it works better than the video shows - I was literally standing behind a tripod so I was at a really weird angle.
One thing that is annoying as hell and just a mysterious behavior to me is the impossible task of finding magazines for the Taurus TH9 or the 809. Don't understand why they seem to be hiding these mags! Next gun definitely going to play it safe and go with like a S&W M&P-9 2.0 more reliable company and accessories out the wazoo.
You should have gone into the paper work. Taurus is offering a one year membership to the NRA. One question though. Does this take the same mags as the 809?
Id like to be able to like this gun, but after owning several Taurus products in the past & having to deal with the customer service, Ill never spend a dime on one, especially since the warranty dropped to one year, though the "lifetime warranty" was worthless. You get what you pay for, & with several other more dependable guns in the price range with better warranty's, customer service & quality, I can see this company belly up shortly.
I got it from a local dealer here in Texas and just so happened to visit the site when they first got the handful they had in. They haven't had any in stock since. Keep looking though, they are slowly becoming available.
Looks a lot like the 24/7 that I have. No problems with it but the gun is mostly in the safe. To many controls ambidextrous for sure. But to bulky. No thanks. Sometimes is less more.
Taurus, dubious as always. Sad as I want to like their products, I really do, but you can't deny their overall track record as a company. Want to buy South American, then buy a Bersa.
I don't have an 809 magazine to try, unfortunately, so I don't know. But Taurus is famous for not making their magazines interchangeable, even with very similar models, so I wouldn't hold my breath on it.
Nothing happened to mine with the exception of the finish being rattle can quality. The point is that most firearms come with a lengthy or lifetime warranty. One year in the gun industry is a JOKE!
@@WeSRT4 Ruger has no warranty at all excpet that you can contact them, explain the probkemm and they may or may not authorize an RMA to return it for repair. Ruger is a solid company but they offer no warranty in writing just to correct your mistatement. Also my CZ p01 came with a 5 year warranty so not every firearm manufacturer has a lifetime warranty.
@@JessicaSimonson1976 Who told you that? Smith and Wesson comes with a lifetime warranty. Ruger has no stated warranty but have an issue and they will take care of it. My CZ came with a 5 year warranty, my RIA came with a lifetime warranty. I am sure if you look it up you will find many cover their products with more thenone year. In fact the free Rossi 22 I got with my purchase of my TH9C came with a lifetime warranty.
@@oldhickory2064 Savage has 1 year....10 years for Mossberg, Remington for 3 years, Marlin for 5 years.....I have never used a warranty on any firearm I have ever owned.....warranty is for your assurance....but really not necessary if you take care, and maintain firearms. Winchester arms offers no written or expressed warranty, no lifetime warranty, a limited lifetime warranty isn't technically a lifetime warranty....due to limitations. Berretta offers a one year warranty....but will up it to 3 years if you register gun with them. Stoeger and Benelli will only repair firearms purchased at factory authorized dealers.....otherwise no Warranty. SCCY offers a lifetime, as does Hi point to any owner of firearm whether original owner, or 5th owner. Smith and Wesson offers a lifetime to only original purchaser.....this doesn't transfer when gun is sold used. The fact that not all gun manufacturers offer warranty or limit a firearms warranty....Shouldn't pose any bearing on whether you purchase the firearm.
Taurus is trying to pull a fast one on all their clients. They are making extremely minor changes to existing product lines and renaming make it seem like different guns for the sole purpose of getting away from the lifetime warranty. They did the same with the PT111 G2 becoming the G2C. Same damn gun but without the Taurus safety lock. You guessed it, 1 year warranty. Kinda BS given their sub par quality control. I had a PT111 G2, but sold it as i had enough FTE’s that made me not want to have to depend on it with my life. Was fun to shoot otherwise. What chapped my butt, however, was seeing how Taurus customer service was treating people who had to send it firearms for warranty work/recall. Seems like it was taking 3-6 MONTHS for people to get a firearm back. That’s completely unacceptable and no way to run a business. I know some people love Taurus and have had good luck with their firearms. Good for them. While I still own a PT709 Slim, This will be my last Taurus product. They will never get another penny from me. I’d rather spend more money with a company that makes a better product, stands behind their work, and takes care of their customers the right way.
Shane Cargill you're wrong about this Taurus is changing there guns names due to a recent lawsuit. They recently changed the G2 to the G2C because of the lawsuit claiming the pistols name sounded to similar to a pistol already made, and a lot of there firearms apparently need to have a name change. I completely agree about the warranty though I would never by a Taurus knowing it only has a 1 year warranty.
Mike, I fired everything from Winchester white box, Winchester Nato, Blazer brass, Federal brass, Federal aluminum, etc. I'd shoot 100-150 rounds every trip to the range and would always have 1-3 random FTE's regardless of ammunition.
Sui778 well the reason i said compact is because i own a vp9 full size that i use for range / carry I dont own a g2 pt111 but have shot it nice little pistol i do like it but i do like the looks of the th9 would not mind owning one
Was thinking of getting the compact as well till I noticed the compact doesn’t have ambidextrous controls or changeable back grips like the full size. Nice looking unit tho
All these folks complaining about Taurus one year warranty. If I am not mistaken even Glock only has a one year warranty. Where are all the gripers about that? If its such a big deal then buy a lifetime warranty for $10 from the gun dealer when buying the pistol. Problem solved. us.glock.com/en/own/warranty
I honestly don't get it either, especially considering that ALL manufacturers, regardless of what product they make and how long the warranty is will do everything to fault the buyer for the malfunction/defect, whatever the problem is before they honor the warranty.
Sui778 Yep. They will fault the buyer because they don't want to deal with the problem of their product. The warranty is a write off for them that they don't intend to honor from the beginning. That is why they drag their feet getting it done under legal obligation. Just like some insurance companies. I would much rather take my guns that I can't fix on my own to a reputable licensed gunsmith and just pay the cost of the repair that usually is not that much unless its a major problem.
$277 is a good price. I would like to find a TH9C for around that much somewhere. Maybe the prices will keep dropping like they have been on pistols. I would like a smooth DA trigger for consistent break every time but I can live with that. Reset is not as long or bad as I first thought. The only thing I can say not to my liking is the gritty DA trigger and the short rails that take away the smooth function of the pistol. But hey for the price I am not griping. Down the road maybe I will pick one up. Right now I have to get a QD tactical scope for my M4 AR when they are back in stock and that is going to cost me.
Jeremy G I have a pt111 g2 I actually have 2 and a pt140g2 and I have the first gen if this gun the pt809c the pt809c is actually a better gun than the pt111 g2
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I really don't care about the warranty, be it a year or life. I work on my own guns, just like my cars.
Same here I just order parts and modify if necessary ....but been doing this forever. For someone without mechanical ability though might need that warranty.
They brought back the lifetime warranty on this gun.
You'll care if a part breaks. No one stocks Taurus parts...
The warranty gives you the parts if a part breaks so you don’t have to pay for it then they send you the part for free.
I wanted one of these, and I was a Taurus fan who spent countless hours debating haters and naysayers. Now that they changed their warranty, I refuse to purchase from them. With Taurus, spare parts will be impossible to find, so you'll have a paperweight if something goes wrong. Even if you use their warranty service within the first year, you'll have to pay to ship it to them, and then you'll have to wait several months before it's shipped back.. With all that said and with similarly priced Rugers, Caniks, S&Ws, etc on the market that comes with excellent CS and/or parts availability, only a fool would purchase a new Taurus now.
80sDon dam. Thanks for that info.
Many people that have sent a gun back to Taurus to be fixed had their guns returned over a year later. I bought a PT111 and i cracked the rear slide cover with normal use. I called Taurus and fought them for almost a year. I finally got them to send me the parts. So what good is a warranty if they do not cover it anyway. These are cheap throwaway guns anyway, just realize when you buy one it may be a paperweight someday.
Have you ever bought a Beretta, or savage....both have 1 year warranty period, Winchester has no written, implied, zero lifetime, no Warranty for custom guns.
Newsflash their warranty is lifetime now
I just picked up this week my TH9C (compact) version and a Rossi RS22 rifle for $299 from Academy. The pistol was $299 and the rifle free...broke it down cleaned it as it was filthy and will be taking it out this weekend to see how it behaves. The little rifle is really nice...lightweight semi auto with a nice trigger. Should have some fun with both and by the way the Rossi has a lifetime warranty for those that think it's a big deal
Taurus pistols generally are very dirty out of the box because they cake it with that shipping grease. I might have grabbed that deal if I didn't already have the TH9 and a PT-111 G2.
I GOT ME ONE TOO!!!!
Awesome gun. Just got mine and put about 500 rounds through it. Got home took slide off and couldn't get it back on. Saw you're video and it's back on. Dunno what I was doing lol but it's waaay easier than any other pistol I've ever had. Think guide rod/ barrel wasn't in right spot. Def my bad. First Taurus I own and it's great. Awesome vid man.
How did u get it back on lol I'm dealing with the same problem now it won't go back on for shit lol
the magazine release is designed like a screw and has a cam effect so it can be operated from both sides causing the slow or sticky feeling.the release button also does a slight turn while being depressed. a single sided release only has to slide straight across to release normally. the mag release button innards could probably be polished somehow.
Just purchased the Taurus G2C which is my first Taurus. Should come in tomorrow!!
You'll like it. It's basically a PT-111 G2 without the lock.
Taurus is going to the 1 year warranty on products made after 1/17/2018 and have gotten away from the internal locks on the newer models as many of the new models are upgraded re-released models under a different model number. This is part of their quality control improvement.
I tend to agree with you. I also have to wonder if part of the shortened warranty has to do with Taurus getting caught up with all the recalls. We shall see.
ratagris21 they are good as glocks without the reputation
@@JK20239 See Ray Dumont above guaranty
Have the 809 and adore it. Think I’m gonna have to pick this up to have both gens. Shame about the warranty though.
Yeah the warranty is a bit of a surprise. I'm wondering if this is Taurus' way of dealing with all the recalls. I dunno.
Buy a gun from Bud's and you can have a lifetime guarantee.
I’ve got one just like it. I wasn’t particularly crazy about the trigger action but after you get used to it, it not a problem. Taurus gets a bad name because of the price but I can use it to protect my house just as well as a $2000 gun.
Single action is nice. Double action works but definitely leaves something to be desired. It's not really noticeable anyway, and since it cycles to single action it doesn't really matter to me what the double action does.
Sui778 I don’t even use the double action. Like you said, it does leave something to be desired. I was talking about how far you have to pull on the trigger before it fires. But once you get to know the gun, you’ll automatically know where the firing point is. So I guess it really doesn’t matter, just as long as you know your gun.
Dude this is a great video! I'm gonna post it over on the Facebook Firearms Contents creator page!
Glad you like it. And thanks for sharing it with others.
All Taurus I've had have a gritty trigger. It is fixable with some polishing
Walther Creed with lifetime warranty can be had sub $300 take home, similar pricing I have seen on S&W MP 9 for around $300 also with lifetime warranty. I just bought a Creed in 9 mm to stow out in the truck. The Creed shoots great, accurate and very well made. I couldn't bring myself to spend the same amount of money on a gun that Taurus won't stand for. I like the TH though and l actually own a 30 year old PT 99 and it has over 10,000 rounds through it without a problem, just got it back from the Gunsmith with a clean bill of health and she is still true, but Taurus has changed!
Agreed, for the price you could buy police trade in glock or m&p. There available all over the place
Cool looking gun , looks like a cross breed of an M&P - Sig - and HK
I just bought this gun and was saddened to learn it only has a limited one year warranty. I am surprised they stopped providing a lifetime warranty since they have such a questionable history with quality. I don't know why anyone would buy any gun from Taurus with only a one year warranty. I now have to decide if I will keep it for a cheap backup or sell it off. Shame on Taurus for not making this more clear to its customers.
Well you have a year to decide - so far mine has performed flawlessly. I have had absolutely no problems with any of my Taurus guns save the TCP's pickiness about hollow points at first.
Budsgunshop offers a Supplemental Lifetime warranty for 14 bucks. got that with mine. Total all said only payed $308 from buds. not bad for a 9mm, the gun looks great heard these are really dirty, but mine was pretty much clean. Haven't shot it yet, but have been testing it with some snap caps and is functional. Like the video though the mag release button is sticking as hell.
The button gets better with time - loosens up.
@@magmalicker I also bought a gun from Dud's and got the lifetime guarantee
When I've disassembled handguns with those levers, I grip the gun in my shooting hand and hold the slide back with my index finger, using my free hand to pull the lever down and then releasing my index finger to let the slide move forward to the disengaged position to allow for the rest of disassembly.
It's a lot easier to do when you're not standing behind a tripod - I was at an oddball angle so it ended up looking a lot more difficult than it really is.
Sui778, totally understandable, just thought I'd give a suggestion in case you didn't know an easier way.
With having many 1911's and it being a hammer fired gun. breaking them down to clean a reassemble them it is easier to do with the hammer cocked, also it is the actual first step in disassemble of a 1911 is to cock the hammer. Just a side note
Doing a little research on the TH9, trying to decide on getting the TH9 or the Ruger Security 9. But on the double action trigger pull on the TH9 you said maybe 9-10 lbs on the trigger pull, I can tell you by experience with other double action triggers that I've own 9-10 lb double action trigger pull is very good, but the gritty trigger isn't good. The Security 9 is a hammer fire gun but the Hammer is internal but no gritty feel when pulling trigger. But I like the decocker on the TH9, Security 9 has a safety which I don't care for. But on to more research.
It only feels gritty when the trigger is pulled slowly - when you pull it faster it's barely noticeable. I was guessing on the 9-10 pound pull. I have a Lyman gauge coming in and I'll test both single and double on it in the follow up review I'm planning on doing before too much longer. Mag buttons are a bit sticky but they do work and eject the magazine properly. Other than that there really isn't much to complain about with this firearm, although it's a bit annoying that it's almost impossible to find extra mags for the thing.
Do you have a tendency to hit target low and to the left?
Don't know why people complain about the security system don't use it. duh..
Tauras actually used to have a security lock on the gun and would include a tool for it it in all honesty still does however for this particular pistol it is used to adjust the sights or punching out roll pins for changing backstraps
I just picked up one..but the TH9C they don't come with back straps guess only the full size..but least i got a free Rossi 22lr rifle with it..blk Friday deal
I got that same deal Academy
@@thohunt Sweet...great deal huh..
Only thing I don't like about the 809 is the pinking extension on a full-size mag - was Andre the Giant (RIP) on the grip engineering team? Will the TH9 mags fit the 809?
Thanks for sharing! Is there any update on mags availability?Thinking of buying this TH9 as a back up competition gun. A 3 or 4 mags with 17 bullet capacity will ensure that I don't go home if my my STI GP6 malfunctions during the game. More power to you Sui778!
I had no problems with mag release great shooting budget 9 I was impressed tauras had a bad rap back in the day but has stepped up their game making nice pistols for the price point I bought my th 9 for 250 and like it a lot it's accurate gritty trigger for double action on single action nice crisp trigger
Doesn't matter if you close the slide with the slide stop/ slide release won't hurt anything
Good looking handgun. Do you think these will be reliable?
I've run 500 rounds through mine to this point and it's been absolutely spot-on. No failures of any kind.
I’m thinking of getting one I wish these got the advertising like the g series did I’m just finding out about the th series now
Thanks! I have a pt111 g2 but am really more interested in the compact version as a carry pistol or at least how it compares in feel to my hk usp 40 compact.
The dimensions between the HK and the TH9C are almost identical but I'm willing to bet the trigger breaks much further back on the TH9C (Taurus pistols are famous for this). The single action on my TH9 is just fine but the double action leaves a bit to be desired. Not that I'd ever bother shooting it in double action anyway.
Berreta m92 clone just bought mine today nice mags
I own the Taurus 840B full size 40 SW. Model looks pretty similar to the 800 series just different hand grips & grooves.
Glad they brought back the lifetime warranty on this firearm.
Nice and clear review dude.thanks TH9 TAURUS
Glad you liked it!
Just a side note: The gun lock on the 809 is located on the lower right side of the grip.
Duly noted - thought it was in the same location as all the other pistols - looks like it's not. Thanks for pointing that out.
I have a PT-809 and can no longer get magazines for it and them look just like them and hope them fit the PT-809
gunbroker
Have to buy them factory direct...I have a 24/7 pro LS and can still get mags from Taurus
Look to eBay
just bought this from a gun show 2 days ago.. haven't had a chance to shoot it yet.. lol.. the magazine loader that was in the case wasn't even for a 9mm..?? it didnt fit..?? is that normal to see..?? and a lock which i didnt get.. so just gun show bs i guess..??
Dunno - sounds like you got an incomplete kit. The speed loader that comes with it is basically useless anyway. Just get a Maglula speed loader.
Taurus 9MM are some of the very best in the world..and expect to see other gun manufacturers going to the one year warranty also..
Honestly when I see someone trashing a limited warranty it makes me wonder just how well they really take care of and maintain their weapons. Yes there are legitimate failures that isn't the operator's fault but I suspect more often than not that it's a result of someone not keeping their guns maintained properly.
Theres nothing wrong with letting the slide slam forward with a 9mm or above....22 is when you will start running into issues...my question is have you tried the holsters for the PT809 if so are they compatible with the TH9?
Since TH9's are about a half inch shorter than the PT809, I dunno - might not work. I haven't tried fitting one in a PT-809 holster personally though - mine just stays in its case.
Good video. I think you covered it all.
I'm not to familiar with the Taurus line of pistols, but I do have a couple of their revolvers. But I've always been curious about their line of pistols. But does the TH9 take the place of the PT809?
Yes, the TH9/TH40 series replace the PT-809/840 series.
I see the grips are improved over the 809
Definitely better on the TH9.
PLEASE WE ALWAYS - NEED to know: 1) Is the guide rod steel or polymer? 2) Is the guide rod spring "captured"?
Steel and double-captured spring.
Fit and finish is awesome. Way better than a Glock. No gaps on the frame and slide like Glock. 👍👍
It's a pretty decent gun all around.
The security lock on my 809c is on the handle right above the magazine
Awesome review! 👍👍👍
IS Taurus going to make the 809 in a compact version again since They discontinued it a long time ago? I would be interested in purchasing a 809 c, if they make it again
The 809 series is out of production. They are making a compact version of the TH9 called the TH9c - has 15 round magazines.
Oh yeah definitely subscribed very informative.. if possible can you do a side by side review and also see if the TH9 mags fit in the PT809. Thanks
I don't have a PT-809 or magazines for it so I cannot do a comparison or determine if the mags would work in the TH9 or vice-versa.
I was ready to purchase a G2C until I found out about the warranty change, I'll be looking at other compact pistols from manufacturers that will stand behind them, I might have to spend a little more but it is worth the peace of mind. sorry Taurus!
Buy through Bud's and you will have the lifetime guarantee for $14.00
so these mags won't work in the 809? does anyone know?does any one know? has anyone ever freaking tried to slam this magazine in the 809? please let me know!!!
I would try it if I had an 809 - but I don't.
I don’t like warranties anyway because I do not want to send my gun out to be fixed. I would rather buy the parts and fix it myself. I took me almost a year but I finally got the parts to fix my PT111. They said they are fixing their customer services and retraining their people. I hope that is the case because Taurus has some good cheap guns.
They're just good guns - nevermind cheap - that's just a nice bonus. I own five of them and they all run very well. The thing about warranties is that companies will do anything they can to not honor it and that's not isolated to just gun manufacturers - it's pretty much every manufacturer. They WILL try to find a way to fault you for a broken product, plain and simple.
I want this gun. 👍
Is the frame polymer?? Specs I read at Classic Firearms said all metal?? Hmmmm?
Frame is polymer.
Sui778. Hey guy, thanks for the reply!!! I kinda expected it, but, can't blame a guy for hoping. Haha
I love the video content, but I find it curious that the TH9 says USA, but physically it's made in Brazil. I guess its okay for Americans to spend money with Taurus, but yet we aren't good enough to work for them.,
Actually, on one side of the pistol it does say "MADE IN BRAZIL". The only two Taurus pistols that exclusively indicate "MIAMI, FL" are the TCP and the Spectrum, but that's because all of those pistols are (or were) made in the USA. The rest of the models, including my PT-111 G2 and 140 G2, all indicate somewhere on the gun that it was made in Brazil.
@@Sui778 I research the Miami Fl, this location for the Taurus TH9 is for customer service only, no manufacturing. But Smith and Wesson models are made in USA.
@@tudorme7680 The Miami FL location did manufacture the micro .380 pistol models - TCP and the Spectrum. Everything else Taurus is built in Brazil.
I want the th40c I have the original pt809c and I love it
yep Taurus makes quality firearms and they are priced great. Also customer service is great. very nice people and the company treats there employees well. there Beretta clone is great. better metalergi than the Beretta. Also Taurus has made the most innovations compared to other manufactures. that's to all the Taurus haters that don't know what they are talking about. my 809 and pt92 have never jammed and I have fired every different kind of ammo I can find.
I most definitely agree with you, sir.
That sucks they changed their warranty wtf
So will the holster for the 809 work for this?
I've never had a problem with releasing the slide forward without a round in the magazine.
Loose Unit I think they claim it’s harder wear on the gun... ? I was wondering why he said that and have been looking into it... idk
The mag release works in after about 200 rounds
It's not as bad as it was when I first got it but it's still a bit stiff. I wouldn't call it a deal breaker anyway - it works better than the video shows - I was literally standing behind a tripod so I was at a really weird angle.
Go ahead and use the slide release. Won't hurt anything. Period
One thing that is annoying as hell and just a mysterious behavior to me is the impossible task of finding magazines for the Taurus TH9 or the 809. Don't understand why they seem to be hiding these mags! Next gun definitely going to play it safe and go with like a S&W M&P-9 2.0 more reliable company and accessories out the wazoo.
magmalicker gun mag warehouse..... they have them. Pricey though...
Have to buy them direct from factory....I have 24/7 pro LS and still can get mags through Taurus
The TH9 reminds me some of the CZ75 system.
You should have gone into the paper work. Taurus is offering a one year membership to the NRA.
One question though. Does this take the same mags as the 809?
Mags are the same.. just get new TH9 mag plates for those 809 mags
Id like to be able to like this gun, but after owning several Taurus products in the past & having to deal with the customer service, Ill never spend a dime on one, especially since the warranty dropped to one year, though the "lifetime warranty" was worthless. You get what you pay for, & with several other more dependable guns in the price range with better warranty's, customer service & quality, I can see this company belly up shortly.
Is pistol serie "the shake in fire", but in 24/7 ?
This is not a 24/7 series.
Where did you get it? I can’t find one for sale anywhere . I’m dieing to get one
I got it from a local dealer here in Texas and just so happened to visit the site when they first got the handful they had in. They haven't had any in stock since. Keep looking though, they are slowly becoming available.
Kentucky Gun Company has them on sale online for like $275
Looks a lot like the 24/7 that I have. No problems with it but the gun is mostly in the safe. To many controls ambidextrous for sure. But to bulky. No thanks. Sometimes is less more.
Anyone hear about the striker fired model yet????
Great video Thank-you!
To my knowledge, nobody has heard much of anything about the TS-series coming to the USA yet.
If you want a striker fired gun then this gun isn't for you. Why would you even bring it up on this review?
My wife has a Taurus G2 MILLENNIUM 9MM..2015 it has a lifetime Warranty..
I have the PT-111 G2 as well - same deal - lifetime warranty.
Does the magazine of the pt809 work on this or vice versa?
If you change the base plates they are different pt809 mags will not work without th9 baseplates
Will these magazines fit in the PT809
Hard to say. AFAIK, the 809 mags were not Mec-Gars, so they may not work in the TH9.
Sui778 if possible can you do a side by side review of both or see if the TH9 mags fit in the PT809. Thanks
Sui778 yes the 17 round mag from my 809c is a mec-gar they are probably the same
I would guess that too, but without a PT809 mag to try, I can't be 100% certain.
Sui778 in the future don’t forget to do a side by side review... great 👍🏽 info
Those of you that have local dealers that draw from Davidson's guns inventory - they just got in some TH9's.
Sui778 Do you have any idea of these magazines fit in the older PT-809 models?
Don't know, I don't have a PT-809 to try the mags in. Trying to determine that, though.
Whats the price for this weapon?
around $275-$325 depending on where you get it.
I just bought one last weekend. I love it
Keep us posted on how it performs!
Kurt Slupe is that a 9mm or a 45
TH series only comes in 9mm or .40 caliber. Actually I believe it comes in .380 also - but the .380 version is not available in the USA.
anthony lee it’s a 9mm
Kurt Slupe where did you purchase? Online? I’m having trouble finding one.
Taurus, dubious as always. Sad as I want to like their products, I really do, but you can't deny their overall track record as a company. Want to buy South American, then buy a Bersa.
Yes, checked today, the G2c has the same warranty.
my slide will not go back on!☹☹☹
do the mags fit the 809?
I don't have an 809 magazine to try, unfortunately, so I don't know. But Taurus is famous for not making their magazines interchangeable, even with very similar models, so I wouldn't hold my breath on it.
I would never ever buy a gun with a one year warranty. I won't ever buy another Taurus.
Nothing happened to mine with the exception of the finish being rattle can quality. The point is that most firearms come with a lengthy or lifetime warranty. One year in the gun industry is a JOKE!
@@WeSRT4 Ruger has no warranty at all excpet that you can contact them, explain the probkemm and they may or may not authorize an RMA to return it for repair. Ruger is a solid company but they offer no warranty in writing just to correct your mistatement. Also my CZ p01 came with a 5 year warranty so not every firearm manufacturer has a lifetime warranty.
Just take care of them maintain them.....then stop buying guns altogether....most manufacturers only offer 1 year.
@@JessicaSimonson1976 Who told you that? Smith and Wesson comes with a lifetime warranty. Ruger has no stated warranty but have an issue and they will take care of it. My CZ came with a 5 year warranty, my RIA came with a lifetime warranty. I am sure if you look it up you will find many cover their products with more thenone year. In fact the free Rossi 22 I got with my purchase of my TH9C came with a lifetime warranty.
@@oldhickory2064 Savage has 1 year....10 years for Mossberg, Remington for 3 years, Marlin for 5 years.....I have never used a warranty on any firearm I have ever owned.....warranty is for your assurance....but really not necessary if you take care, and maintain firearms. Winchester arms offers no written or expressed warranty, no lifetime warranty, a limited lifetime warranty isn't technically a lifetime warranty....due to limitations. Berretta offers a one year warranty....but will up it to 3 years if you register gun with them. Stoeger and Benelli will only repair firearms purchased at factory authorized dealers.....otherwise no Warranty. SCCY offers a lifetime, as does Hi point to any owner of firearm whether original owner, or 5th owner. Smith and Wesson offers a lifetime to only original purchaser.....this doesn't transfer when gun is sold used. The fact that not all gun manufacturers offer warranty or limit a firearms warranty....Shouldn't pose any bearing on whether you purchase the firearm.
Looks like Taurus made a clone of the EAA, which made a clone of the CZ lol
I do hope you know how to grip the weapon, unlike you did at first of the video
Clean it when u get it spring and barrel dirty
Taurus is trying to pull a fast one on all their clients. They are making extremely minor changes to existing product lines and renaming make it seem like different guns for the sole purpose of getting away from the lifetime warranty. They did the same with the PT111 G2 becoming the G2C. Same damn gun but without the Taurus safety lock. You guessed it, 1 year warranty. Kinda BS given their sub par quality control. I had a PT111 G2, but sold it as i had enough FTE’s that made me not want to have to depend on it with my life. Was fun to shoot otherwise. What chapped my butt, however, was seeing how Taurus customer service was treating people who had to send it firearms for warranty work/recall. Seems like it was taking 3-6 MONTHS for people to get a firearm back. That’s completely unacceptable and no way to run a business. I know some people love Taurus and have had good luck with their firearms. Good for them. While I still own a PT709 Slim, This will be my last Taurus product. They will never get another penny from me. I’d rather spend more money with a company that makes a better product, stands behind their work, and takes care of their customers the right way.
Shane Cargill you're wrong about this Taurus is changing there guns names due to a recent lawsuit. They recently changed the G2 to the G2C because of the lawsuit claiming the pistols name sounded to similar to a pistol already made, and a lot of there firearms apparently need to have a name change. I completely agree about the warranty though I would never by a Taurus knowing it only has a 1 year warranty.
Was you shooting Winchester white box out of 1500rds that's the only fail to feed none of any other brands did this and it was only 4 swollen brass
Mike, I fired everything from Winchester white box, Winchester Nato, Blazer brass, Federal brass, Federal aluminum, etc. I'd shoot 100-150 rounds every trip to the range and would always have 1-3 random FTE's regardless of ammunition.
I want the compact
I have a PT111 G2 for that purpose. Wanted a full size for the range just because they are more enjoyable to shoot.
Sui778 well the reason i said compact is because i own a vp9 full size that i use for range / carry
I dont own a g2 pt111 but have shot it nice little pistol i do like it but i do like the looks of the th9 would not mind owning one
It's been 100% reliable to this point.
Was thinking of getting the compact as well till I noticed the compact doesn’t have ambidextrous controls or changeable back grips like the full size. Nice looking unit tho
No lifetime warranty..me no buy
@King Savage See Ray Dumont's reply above about guarantee.
Can you put a red dot on it?
All these folks complaining about Taurus one year warranty. If I am not mistaken even Glock only has a one year warranty. Where are all the gripers about that? If its such a big deal then buy a lifetime warranty for $10 from the gun dealer when buying the pistol. Problem solved.
us.glock.com/en/own/warranty
I honestly don't get it either, especially considering that ALL manufacturers, regardless of what product they make and how long the warranty is will do everything to fault the buyer for the malfunction/defect, whatever the problem is before they honor the warranty.
Sui778 Yep. They will fault the buyer because they don't want to deal with the problem of their product. The warranty is a write off for them that they don't intend to honor from the beginning. That is why they drag their feet getting it done under legal obligation. Just like some insurance companies. I would much rather take my guns that I can't fix on my own to a reputable licensed gunsmith and just pay the cost of the repair that usually is not that much unless its a major problem.
$277 is a good price. I would like to find a TH9C for around that much somewhere. Maybe the prices will keep dropping like they have been on pistols. I would like a smooth DA trigger for consistent break every time but I can live with that. Reset is not as long or bad as I first thought. The only thing I can say not to my liking is the gritty DA trigger and the short rails that take away the smooth function of the pistol. But hey for the price I am not griping. Down the road maybe I will pick one up. Right now I have to get a QD tactical scope for my M4 AR when they are back in stock and that is going to cost me.
600 rounds in - not a single failure. It just fires.
Seconds into a review I hear I have no idea 2 diff times. Really??
Eh - whatever. Lighten up, Francis.
Did you like this gun?
Yes I like the gun.
Lmao weird ass question but ok
Got one today for 299.00
I got 1 for 299 and it came with a free Rossi 22 rifle
Just buy a pt11 cheaper and more reliable
If you say so.... I have a PT-111G2 and I have fired twice as many rounds through the TH9 as I have the 111 - no failures.
It's been discontinued.
Jeremy G I have a pt111 g2 I actually have 2 and a pt140g2 and I have the first gen if this gun the pt809c the pt809c is actually a better gun than the pt111 g2
"serraisins"
do the th9 and the 809 mags swap?