Rediscovering the TRUE Meaning of Sacrifice (w/ Fr. Jeremy Davis)
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- Sacrifice is a concept that's found all throughout Scripture and the Christian tradition. From animal sacrifice to the death of Christ, sacrifice takes on multiple dimensions throughout the Bible. However, thousands of years removed from animal sacrifices and even the patristic sense of sacrifice, we often struggle to understand the true meaning of sacrifice. In this video, I'm joined by Orthodox monk, Fr. Jeremy Davis to discuss his book, Welcoming Gifts: Sacrifice in the Bible and Christian Life.
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Please visit an Orthodox monastery next Austin
It is always an experience to visit an Orthodox monastery, there are a good number in North America, and failing that I am sure Fr Seraphim would welcome you visiting his monasteries on Mull and Iona.
Me and my misses are catechumens for the Antiochian Orthodox Church in Sydney :)
She is Roman Catholic coming to Orthodoxy and I am from Assyrian Church of the East coming to Orthodoxy
Bless you, best of luck with everything!
May God bless us all.
I'd be interested in a video on Christian childrens books!
Thanks so much for the heart! ♥️
Grace Brooks writes a series of tween to young teen chapter books.
I’d be interested too😃
"For (things) of the Old (Testament) are shadow; those of the New Testament are image; and truth is the condition of the future (things)." [St. Dionysius the Areopagite, "The Ecclesiastical Hierarchy", 3, ΙΙΙ, ΙΙ - PG 4, 137D]
2 minutes in and I have to say: Fr Jeremy was the one who catechized me and I was chrismated soon after he went to work with the metropolitan. I’ve listen to the audiobook of Welcoming Gifts and it’s great! He words it in a way that anyone can understand. The Cellarer’s Celery is also a really fun read.
This book is very high on my reading list. Super happy that you had Fr. Jeremy on. This topic is maybe the most important spiritual concept to our faith!
Also, I would definitely like to hear more about Christian Children's books! Blessings.
You are an overwhelmingly pleasant person to listen to. Thank you for these excellent videos.
Amazing episode for the Catholic that i am
Thank you so much for the helpful illustrations and explanations surrounding the concept of sacrifice.
I’ve been a Christian for most of my life and understanding sacrifice in the biblical context was/is something I’ve always struggled with because it just strikes me as something cruel and very primitive in nature, which it certainly was in many pagan cultures. I just always assumed it was basically the same way in ancient Israel and low-key always wondered how Yahweh could desire the death and torture of his created animals in such a manner. I think I’ve gained a little better understanding now after listening to this conversation.
Really appreciated this interview! Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Hello Austin. I really enjoyed this interview and learning more about Old Testament sacrifices! One note I have is that not all Orthodox completely reject a legal or substitutionary understanding of the Lord's Sacrifice (which I feel is Biblical), but they also incorporate other ideas as said by the fathers of the Church.
For example, Saint Philaret of Moscow writes this in his 'Longer Catechism of the Orthodox Catholic Eastern Church': "[Speaking of the Lord Jesus Christ] His voluntary suffering and death on the cross for us, being of infinite value and merit, as the death of one sinless, God and man in one person, is both a perfect satisfaction to the justice of God, which had condemned us for sin to death, and a fund of infinite merit, which has obtained him the right, without prejudice to justice, to give us sinners pardon of our sins, and grace to have victory over sin and death".
I just wanted to point this out as a little addition to your dialogue! Take care, and God bless you!
P.S. Happy Wedding! May the Lord bless you and your wife in your future lives together!🙂
The view expressed by st. Philaret is more common in the orthodox tradition than many orthodox would like to admit. St. Theophan the Recluse also had this "penal" view. He differentiated between the Cross and the Ressurection, the Atonement and Deification.
We had a local Synod in Constantinople in 1157 which clarified the meaning of the Atonement. I haven't found its tomos in English so here's my translation of a part of it: "The God-man in the beginning of His Passion offered a saving sacrifice to the Father, to Himself as God, and to the Spirit, by whom man was created from nothingness, whom [Trinity] he also OFFENDED BY TRANSGRESSING the commandment, through the sufferings of Christ was he reconciled with the Trinity".
As far as I see, the language of offence means that Christ died in our place, not excluding "on our behalf" part, for sin is also a crime against God's Truth, Holyness and Righteousness. Analogues penal substitutionary language is found in many church fathers. St. Cyrill of Jerusalem: "2. And wonder not that the whole world was ransomed; for it was no mere man, but the only-begotten Son of God, who died on its behalf. Moreover one man's sin, even Adam's, had power to bring death to the world; but if by the trespass of the one death reigned over the world, how shall not life much rather reign by the righteousness of the One Romans 5:17-18? And if because of the tree of food they were then cast out of paradise, shall not believers now more easily enter into paradise because of the Tree of Jesus? If the first man formed out of the earth brought in universal death, shall not He who formed him out of the earth bring in eternal life, being Himself the Life? If Phinees, when he waxed zealous and slew the evil-doer, staved the wrath of God, shall not Jesus, who slew not another, but gave up Himself for a ransom 1 Timothy 2:6, put away the WRATH which is against mankind?"
More from st. Cyrill: "33. These things the Saviour endured, and made peace through the Blood of His Cross, for things in heaven, and things in earth. Colossians 1:20 For we were enemies of God through sin, and God had appointed the sinner to die. There must needs therefore have happened one of two things; either that God, in His TRUTH, should destroy all men, or that in His loving-kindness He should cancel the sentence. But behold the wisdom of God; He preserved both the TRUTH of His sentence, and the exercise of His loving-kindness. Christ took our sins in His body on the tree, that we by His death might die to sin, and live unto righteousness. 1 Peter 2:24 Of no small account was He who died for us; He was not a literal sheep; He was not a mere man; He was more than an Angel; He was God made man".
All who're interested should check out Craig Truglia's stream with fr. John Whiteford on the Orthodox Atonement where they go in some detail on the issue.
@@StasBalabay Thank you for your explanation! I agree with what the man said in the video, but I felt that something was lacking in that explanation. Your explanation helps me solidify what I believe, and my faith in Orthodoxy!
God bless you!
Would you have a book to recommand on this question from the Orthodox viewpoint ?
“As of a Lamb without blemish and without spot, the Lamb of God was slain for us, to pull us out from the threefold jaws of the beast…
O my brethren, if you do not know how venomous sin is, how wicked the devil is, and how bitter death is, judge by the greatness of the ransom by which we have been redeemed from their bondage. The Precious Blood of Christ-that is our ransom from bondage! Remember, brethren, that if we again-in our recklessness and evil-willingly give ourselves over to that terrible threefold slavery, there is no one on earth or in heaven who can give ransom for us. For there is but one precious ransom, and it was given once and forever.” - St. Nikolai Velimirovich (The Prologue - Homily for July 6)
The way you describe "legal or substitutionary sacrifice" in relationship to Christ's Sacrifice misses the Anselmian and later Protestant twist that many people hold: PENAL Substitutionary Sacrifice, which holds that God poured God's wrath on His Son. Our sins had offended the "majesty" of God so much (Anselm's metaphor) that a price had to be paid - even paid to the Devil, as some crazy ideas put forth. This twisted idea is NOT at all a part of the Orthodox notion of Atonement. Christ's Sacrifice was freely given, freely offered, not demanded by an angry offended Father who needed someone on whom to pour Divine wrath. So Atonement is certainly a very important belief in Orthodoxy, but not as Fr. Jeremy says it is "transformational" not "transactional".
Fr Jeremy Is going to be the Arch Pastoral Vicar of The Antiocan Orthodox Diocesse Of Toledo and The Midwest when Bishop Anthony Transfers August 1st and he is on his way to Becoming Bishop of The Diocese
Great idea! Please do a children's book episode. Can't wait to see Father Jeremy's book.
Clarifying so much during my first big fasting season as an Inquirer. About a children’s book video, I say definitely. I just ordered from Ancient Faith both Cellears Celery and Beyond the White Fence for my 6 yr old grandson.
Yes! Children’s book video!
I would love to watch a video on Christian children's books! YES PLEASE! I've seen a few of your videos, and now subscribed! thank you for all you do!
This has been incredibly helpful.
Yes..on the childrens book vid.
Thanks for this one as well
I will tell you only one think find a way and go to Athos for a few days...
Hi just seeing this now. I am interested in watching a video on making Christian children books. Thank you for the thought.
I really need a video on Christian kid's books honestly, it's hard to know what will be a good from just what you see online
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It would be awesome if you make a conversation with Richard Rohr! :)
I'd be interested in a relevant video on the purpose of the Pope's visit to Canada.
Please do an interview with an eastern catholic monk (e.g. Fr. Damian Higgins or Fr. Nicholas Zachariadis).
the nations offering to a pantheon of "gods" the river is a god, the rock has a god, etc etc. dont we see this reflected in our obsession with materialism, in the various disciplines of science obsessing over every single subject drawing our attention and devotion to each thing?
I'm only interested in watching your videos with Orthodox guests.
After being protestant for 25 years, and then Roman Catholic for 33 years, my husband, I, and our youngest son were baptized April 2022 in our local Serbian Orthodox Church.
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I have a contact form on my website
Don't worry about ancient sacrifice. Accept that as a Christian you can pass on deeds in little ways everyday. Remember the lesson of the Ancient Pharoah's , you can't take it with you to the other side . Look at the Icon of the angel of death and you'll see the ancient symbols of a heart and feather on scales . That belongs to ancient Egypt and Egypt translates to under the Aegean . Believe it or not .
I know it's played out, but when he said the important part of pledging is actually giving, I started laughing because it reminded me of Amber Heard
Austin, it's been a while since I've watched your videos, which I enjoy very much. I'm a 90 year old cradle Catholic, educated by the English Benedicitnes. I was a thurifer and at different times held the Abbot's mitres in a humeral veil at High Mass. As a thurifer, all corners must be taken by swinging the thurible through a 360 degree circle. On a different note, a compliment and criticism. You are now half human, with a recognizable haircut. You now need to get a pair of adult contoured eyeglasses and put a blade in your razor. Keep up the good work. Bestens, David
yep - "We have an altar from which those who minister at the tabernacle have no right to eat." Hebrews 13:10 the real deal!
Apologies in advance, not.meant to offend. To speak about the biblical sacrifice and the sacrifice of Christ without mentioning the 2 natures of Christ, lacks Orthodox authenticity and still rings with a Western theological view. That needs to be corrected
Hello! My husband and I love your videos. Thank you for making them. 😊 I messaged you on Instagram because we have a question and I can't find another way to contact you. We would so appreciate it if you would check it out or let me know how we could contact you thank you so much!