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I've had the jumpshot before in SC toyo tires editon on 3s a beast in -30 in the cold only broke the servo saver smacking a wall full send best experience ever miss it got stolen while doing speed run flip it and some punks took in their truck
Now this is a showdown I'm excited for. The world needs more 2WD. And budget comparisons are great for new comers to the hobby. My money is on the Arrma, I'm a fan lately.
Loving the camera shots on the side of the truck seeing the suspension doing its thing was good to see as it shows how much that suspension is actually working nice m8 nice 👍
This was brilliant Phil. More enjoyable then some muppet taking a perfectly functioning RC and decimating it in the name of durability. I worked in a hobby shop a few years back, and we had customers always asking "Whats the best..." I'm not a Traxxas hater nor an Arrma fanboy, so I didn't have any issues with how everything scored. But I do like that Jumpshot SC as well.
Typical Traxxas, it's always the little bits that break first. Still like the Jumpshot more on the looks side, although given the choice after your review I would take the HPI anyway, brushless of course.😊😊
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Stampede was the first "real" RC I bought myself in 1995 as a college graduation present. I need to put it back together as I started stealing parts to build one for my son. I ended up building one for each of my 3 kids. Green bits for my oldest son, pink for my daughter and blue for my youngest son. I thought all the newish Stampedes came with wheelie bars. My 95 version didn't and was easy to flip over and roll as well. Stampede weak spots are the front caster blocks break easily and bend the hinge screws. Upgrading to hinge pins with C clips is better, but aluminum caster blocks are the best option. I agree the rear motor placement kills handling. I looked at the Gorgon but don't care for the battery compartment on bottom setup. I'm surprised it didn't pop open while bashing at the skate park. I picked up a Stampede 4x4 VXL in 2015. MUCH different beast than the 2wd version.
Another great video! Would love to see your comparison between Maxx, Kraton/Outcast, and something like the Skeeter or whatever you think is comparable. Thanks!
Your next video will be your thousandth!! Congratulations on all your success on TH-cam you really deserve it. I don’t know what I’d be doing now if I wasn’t inspired by you and Kev to get into rc. Thanks dude! ❤🎉
I do like your comparison vids. Since you are correct that there are tons of trucks in this segment, you should do a few more 3 car shoot outs and then do a final winner round !!!🤘🤘
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Great video, Phil. Very honest, unbiased info in my opinion. I like them all. I have the Gorgon and love it. And I’ve had a few stampedes in my life (nitro way back in the late 90’s) and loved them too. I really wanted to love the jumpshot so I could convince myself I needed one. 🤣 Cause it really does look awesome. But, it was just soooo slow. I’m not one to get hung up on how fast a lot of these can go. But the Stampede and the Gorgon were just on another level compared to it. Even on 3s it looked slow. Thanks for these types of vids, Phil. 🙌🏼 😎 I always enjoy them.
The team associated Rival MT10 kit is 250 USD, was 200 at christmas and comes with everything needed including a albeit slow but still works USB charger. I added a 25 dollar gool RC brushless ESC and motor and order a GOOLRC B6AC charger and just at 250 grand total. This was my Step-sons christmas gift and hes having a tough time trying to break it.
I really like my HPI stadium truck and short course truck. Sister cars to the monster truck. The fact you can move the center of gravity with six screws. Gorgon is hard to beat. It deserves the title.
New to all this found your channel from a friend and brilliant content your putting out man just ordered a small truck cant wait to try them out, awsome to see you doing the raffles aswell bought a few tickets keep up the good work mate!
You could always do 2 3-car-shootouts, and then compare the 2 winners and have a King.. love these shootouts, and other content though I am more into FPV and crawlers.. watched nearly all videos, just catching up on the xmas calendar ones! ❤
Build a Tamiya RC over 40 years ago as a young teen. Would love to get one of these 2WD. How things have changed! My brother and I had about 5mins on the battery racing together then hook up to car battery for an age before next race. Lots of patience needed. Amazing cast metal models back then. New to channel and loving it 👍 takes me back. My 12yo daughter would love an RC MT but perhaps I want one more! Watching these jump has made my day!
I feel like for budget RC the big brands are much too expensive for what you get. I know a lot of people want these brands and not a "Bangood special" but 200$ No charger and battery for a 2wd seems insane.
@@Otownmcmoney Yeah I was going to say parts and support are what keep people in the hobby. Good luck finding documentation and parts for some of these banggood specials. That $150 banggood RC becomes an expensive paperweight when it breaks. You pay for quality in this hobby and the barrier for entry with the well known brands is plenty low. They're honestly dressed up toy grade RC cars now that components are cheaper.
Very good video and a fair conclusion. However, I don't completely agree. The Jumpshot is the cheapest, with the highest spec. To me, that's the definition of "value for money". I'd have put that as 1st for VFM, with the Gorgon 2nd. This would have left the HPI & Arrma on an even 13 points, which I think it absolutely spot-on: one is faster, lots of fun out of the box and more bash-orientated, but the spec is low. The other has a more premium feel and higher specs, but needs money spent to make it quick. To me, that's a 50/50. Cheers!
Yes, I mean you are right… but I think I was also taking in to account fun factor in that VFM… and anyway, the Flux is better than all of them, and in budget… I was just being kind to the Karen’s that would have said it was unfair 😅
Speed run surprise me the gorgon looks fast where the traxxas looked a lot slower but they where the same i think the gorgon even looks the best colours really pop on them especially the Greeny yellow colour i like it red still pops but not as much as the other one and i think its definitely the best value for money comes with battery and charger well cool ❄👍
If I was sticking to the budget I would buy the SC flux model . I would be more interested in Traxxas if they would release some roller models and keep their crap electronics. Anyway cheers love the lists
I believe Corally may have discontinued there 2wd trucks, parts still available at the moment though. Also you need to upgrade the main plastic diff gear in the gearbox of the brushed Jumpshot if going to brushless, the flux version comes with a metal gear stock. Having said that the metal diff gear is only just over £6 to upgrade.
With the HPI being capable of running 3S, it makes sense it would be geared lower & you'd get a lower top speed on 2S.. I bet if you ran it with a larger pinion or on 3S it would be more or less the same as the other two.. Also, the Traxxas comes dead last in my opinion because it's far FAR too expensive, old as sh#t, looks stupid & it's definitely not brushless ready like the other two, you'll have to spend almost £30 on a set of "super heavy duty" (😂 😂) driveshafts, then replace the shocks.! Also.. IT'S TOO BLOODY EXPENSIVE.!!!!! Gordon just takes first place... I love the HPI but I'd rather have it as a short course truck.!! As always Phil, another smashing video.!! 👍 👍 👍 Stay safe out there mate & best wishes from Scotland 🏴 🙏 ❤️ 📻 🕹️ 🔋 🚗 🚖 🚕 🚔 🚚 🚙 🚘 🚓 🚒 🚑 🚐 🚎 🚤 🚁 🛩️
All 3 have great potential. I like to customize all mine and test everything. Out of the box. The GORGON is the best. Hands down. Especially being its cheaper
I always send the Stampede to nephews for their first RC. Fun to drive, can take a bash, and parts are bountiful. That being said, I wouldn’t want it for myself. I prefer ST’s.
I enjoyed this comparison and I agree with the final results. I think the HPI has a lot to offer, but the speed really lets it down. I like the Gorgon a lot, but I think the body can let it down. You mentioned the Stampede has cross head or phillips screws. I agree that they are not as good.. I saw a review of the basic Bandit and the reviewer pointed out that basic Bandit, Stampede, etc. are aimed at people new to r/c. These people are more likely to have a crosshead screwdriver at home. I think this review is a very good idea.
@@janklaassen6404 The Flux version in the U.S. is $255 and the brushed version is $185. I would like to see HPI return to the prominence it once had. If they lowered the price on the brushed version to a very low price, in my opinion they would sell a lot and in turn they would sell lots of parts.
I just ordered Gorgon at 1am today. It’s gonna be my first ever rc car, and it rips 40km/h. Rental electric scooters in my country go max at 20mh/h and this bad boy just doubles it up. Damn I’m gonna be so happy 😊
Unfortunately for me, my local hobby shop seems better stocked for Traxxas parts than any other brand. From what I've seen, though, that Gorgon really take a beating.
Hi, phil! good video, I really enjoyed watching! the only question I have - are you gonna make a vid about a hyper go with clipless body? (16208) I'd really enjoy that too :D
I think the HPI should've been ran with 3S if it supports it. No need to pull an "equity" card to chop its performance down just because the other two don't have that ability. Edit: ouch, even with a 3S it's still slow!
I’ve been watching your vids for a few weeks now. You and Kevin’s. I can’t tell if you guys squashed the beef between each other. Kevin is a funny dude.
Hold on. HPI does 3S which the others can't. It did 16mph, while the others did 24mph. 1,5 x 16 = 24. It's probably geared for 3S, so you should test it on 3S too I think. 2S is like the beginner speed for the HPI.
@@DelDredd Yeah, it seemed slower in the skate park. However, Tomley just did a 3s gps check on his second channel and it scored 23mph. It would still have lost the speed test.
@@cwatson42785 Yeah, it's slow. The brushless versions however are real quick and in Europe not that expensive. HPI Jumpshot Flux is about 200 euro and hits 50-60 mph on 3s.
Fantastic testing and comparison, Phil! 😃 I don't know if they exist, but if you could find 3 cheap trucks from China, the same size (are they 1/8? Right?), a comparison would be great as well!!! Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
If you don’t mind, I built a stock Tamiya clod buster when I was a young lad, and it is long gone. Maybe a future video build one with little to mild hop ups! It would bring back memories. Don’t forget the old commercials
If you want to buy a Gorgon or Granite Voltage, be prepared to replace the servo. I got one for my sister and it broke the first skate park. Went for an eco power and no problems yet.
I enjoyed this affordable MT shoot out. Anyone can do a comparison on the top of the top of the line models. But these relatively in expensive models are where most of the viewers enter into the hobby. It’s best to know what’s the best r/c you can afford is when making the decision. Someone who buys a shitty r/c maybe be turned off by breaking and lack of fun and leave the hobby. These shootouts as we call them in the USA are meant to build the community. Can’t love this more. So i ask like Oliver Twist… more please
Nice video as always Phil. I agree the Arrma Gorgon is the best overall truck of the three. I just kinda wished Arrma ditched the old Nicad battery and charger and put the money into upgrading to 2s brushless ESC & motor for similar money. I would even go as far as to delete the included transmitter/receiver and offer a roller with ESC and motor. It would bring the price down and reduce landfill. Lord knows I don’t need another controller kicking around the house! Come to think of it I don’t see the point of buying a Granite Grom at current pricing with the Gorgon around for similar money. Now if the Grom was $50 less…different story. And then there is Traxxas…… So out of date and they really don’t offer anything of value for people just starting out in the hobby. If they offered a kick arse entry level truck for a smaller profit margin they would gain a big brand following from people as they progress within the hobby. The game has moved on.
Idle suggestion on these shootouts; might be fun to add a "modability" category, and give yourself a smallish budget and a timeframe to carry out a couple of basic mods (bearings, pinions, tires, 3S battery, maybe a cheap brushless combo etc); would be nice to get a bit of an idea as to how easy it it to work on the vehicles, as well as how much potential there is in them as a platform.
the stampede was the first hobby grade rc i ever bought for myself, so there is some sentiment there for it. i converted it onto a slash though because i wanted more stability for speed running. i love my stampede though!
Nice video,oving these comparisons. 2 points. 1st. Not sure why anyone would buy a 2WD MT when you can get a 4WD brushless truggy for less! What are the benefits of these? 2nd: Traxxas Rustler 4x4 Vs Arrma Vorteks Vs Maverick Quantum!
The Gorgon was my first introduction into cheap beginner level RC cars so naturally I had to put a 3S system in it 😅 but overall VERY impressed and happy with the durability. It’s the only car other than the Grom I’ll take to a skatepark. Other than the battery tray breaking off a huge jump (technically it was my fault because I didn’t zip tie it in, Arrma actually includes a set with a new tray and the chassis is notched to accept it) it’s held up very well. The suspension soaks up huge jumps and looks badass around corners and landing. I ended up buying my nephew one for Christmas and had a weird issue where the remote reversed itself on the throttle. Luckily, I was able to figure it out, but only because I’ve had experience with other RTR remotes doing the same thing, but on the Gorgon, there is no throttle reverse switch.
I really enjoy these comparison videos. I'd love to see your opinion on best 1/10 basher in a comparison video. Arrma Granite 3S vs Rival MT10 vs Traxxas Stampede and a couple of other alternatives that could give those three a run for their money.
Love your videos mate but it seems like you cook them a bit whenever Traxxas is involved. Yes, their stock servos are wretched but that hit was entirely your fault. Sure the Gorgon was the best but I think the HPI deserved the 3 spot not the Stampede.
I enjoy my Rustler a lot more than my Stampede. Both brushless. Big issue is their shocks. They always bend, and they're expensive. I have lots of Traxxas, but lots of other brands. For body strength, my HPI FJ Cruiser body has taken a beating in the rocks here in Montana, but it does have some reinforcement. Only upgrades are tires and steering servo, and it performs really well, but it's smaller than my other 1/10 crawlers. Plus, it recovers really, really well! If you want a cheap crawler that does well, I'm happy. I definitely recommend masking screen with epoxy.
I absolutely love the quality of the HPI Jumpshot flux for a few dollars more. The ESC & Motor run well, the quality of the plastics are up there. The only 3 things i dislike is the plastic Spur which is extreemly expensive to buy a steel one. The other issue is performance of the motor and esc is nothing like the Traxxas Vellion. With a 4000kv and 3s esc i expected alot more . I have bought an 84 tooth spur which may help top speed a little when it arrives.
You should definitely do one of these videos with Short Course Trucks! (Senton vs Slash vs SC10) all at the $330 USD price point The Slash BL-2S is $330, but is only 2S, whereas both the Senton and SC10 are 3S 40-50mph trucks.. so maybe the VXL? It would be very overpriced but the better comparison.
Unless its a tamiya , there just no need for bushings .. in this day in age small ball bearings are very common in super cheap most cases cheaper then the bushing.
The Gorgon is the only 1/10 I’ve bought in years and it’s an absolute banger to drive. But as always I have been enabled by this video to possibly invest in that flux HPI 😂. Love that TVP chassis.
I've got a Maverick Strada MT. It's been rebranded over and over for years, so spares are readily available. Lots of alloy upgrades available too. It's 4wd and has eight oil shocks, and it's as cheap as chips. It's great.
During Christmas, Arrma was running a great sale on the Granite 4x4 mega in the US. Got it for $199. As a nitro guy, I love having the cheap electric basher to compliment my nitro Rustler and revo 3.3
This is just my opinion but I really think that because these are out of the box testing that the HPI should be allowed to run on 3S. Since it's 3s capable, I don't think that it should be hindered by the fact being that it was designed to run on 3S also and not being allowed to in the test seems unfair. And that being said, the Traxxas should be allowed to run the speed pinion for the speed test since it actually came with it. If it was something that it didn't come with that would be a whole different subject, but due to the fact being it actually came with the speed pinion I think that it should be allowed to run it and the HPI should not be dinged for the fact being it was designed to run two and three s. I guarantee you if it was only 2S rated it would have been geared faster and be cheaper. Of course this is just my opinion. Love watching your videos. Keep up the good work. I really enjoy this type of stuff
Very nice video you should do more of these leaderboard competitions. I think your rating is pretty fair on the driving aspect, but I would like to throw in some remarks. I don’t see the Phillips screws as a bad think. These cars are made for beginners and kids. Most households have a good supply of Phillip screwdrivers so no extra expense in tools. I don’t like two in one esc if you want to upgrade to brushless you need a new radio. Lastly the you criticised the Traxxas radio for being old but the hpi radio is almost old enough to drink.
The Gorgon looks like loads of fun. Makes me regret buying a brushless wltoys. Also I keep hoping that the Senton 3s goes on some crazy sale like the Vendetta did but starting to doubt it
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I've had the jumpshot before in SC toyo tires editon on 3s a beast in -30 in the cold only broke the servo saver smacking a wall full send best experience ever miss it got stolen while doing speed run flip it and some punks took in their truck
Now this is a showdown I'm excited for. The world needs more 2WD. And budget comparisons are great for new comers to the hobby. My money is on the Arrma, I'm a fan lately.
But 2wd is too hard for me to control and i have 0 throttle control because i suck at driving. 2wd has no brakes/air control. 😭
@@beandean356You'll soon learn, it teaches you throttle control and the basics of driving dynamics, I love a rear wheel drive! Lots of fun!
Loving the camera shots on the side of the truck seeing the suspension doing its thing was good to see as it shows how much that suspension is actually working nice m8 nice 👍
I enjoyed the shots from under the vehicles. Fun to watch the suspension work!
Seriously thanks for everything you do for the rc community!! U the man!!! Keep up the good work my dude!
Cheers dude
This was brilliant Phil. More enjoyable then some muppet taking a perfectly functioning RC and decimating it in the name of durability. I worked in a hobby shop a few years back, and we had customers always asking "Whats the best..." I'm not a Traxxas hater nor an Arrma fanboy, so I didn't have any issues with how everything scored. But I do like that Jumpshot SC as well.
Jumpshot SC is just as good as a Slash but half the price. Plus she drives more like a race truck than a basher.
Typical Traxxas, it's always the little bits that break first. Still like the Jumpshot more on the looks side, although given the choice after your review I would take the HPI anyway, brushless of course.😊😊
So, start of December and after a 35yr break, I decided to get back into RC cars again. Saw a shedton of videos from a whole host of different channels and figured that this channel is the one I've settled on. Ended up buying a WLtoys 124008 off the back of what you'd said. Great little introduction back into this.
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I take 10 year breaks in the hobby. Welcome back, I’m going again right now myself.
Great shoot out there. I was thinking HPI, then Arrma took over! Really, I was eyeballin' your Hoonigan jacket. That one is Mint!
They stopped selling the Hoonigan jackets. It’s getting a bit tired now, could do with a new one 😭
i think the arrma gorgon is hands down the best! great video Phil!
Great video!! Loved all the under vehicle footage!! Awesome!!
Stampede was the first "real" RC I bought myself in 1995 as a college graduation present. I need to put it back together as I started stealing parts to build one for my son. I ended up building one for each of my 3 kids. Green bits for my oldest son, pink for my daughter and blue for my youngest son. I thought all the newish Stampedes came with wheelie bars. My 95 version didn't and was easy to flip over and roll as well. Stampede weak spots are the front caster blocks break easily and bend the hinge screws. Upgrading to hinge pins with C clips is better, but aluminum caster blocks are the best option. I agree the rear motor placement kills handling. I looked at the Gorgon but don't care for the battery compartment on bottom setup. I'm surprised it didn't pop open while bashing at the skate park. I picked up a Stampede 4x4 VXL in 2015. MUCH different beast than the 2wd version.
I've always had a soft spot for HPI stuff - I think it's because I had an RS4 which got me back into RC cars back in the day :)
Another great video! Would love to see your comparison between Maxx, Kraton/Outcast, and something like the Skeeter or whatever you think is comparable. Thanks!
Yes… maybe a future video 👌
Your next video will be your thousandth!! Congratulations on all your success on TH-cam you really deserve it. I don’t know what I’d be doing now if I wasn’t inspired by you and Kev to get into rc. Thanks dude! ❤🎉
I do like your comparison vids. Since you are correct that there are tons of trucks in this segment, you should do a few more 3 car shoot outs and then do a final winner round !!!🤘🤘
Yes, may be 👌
Great comparison!! I think I'll have to get a Gorgon- change the speed pinion and be good. Another great one‼️👍👍🦾🦾🤘🤘
Such a great and helpful video! Thank you so much man! Love the accent!
Cheers mate 😎
A pretty good comparison.!!
The way this hobby is going we're all going to be driving budget RCs.!😉 😉 😂 😂
Yes.. it’s certainly getting expensive!
No we will not.
You ain’t wrong ! Prices are getting out of hand ✋
@@cutterbacon Well, that's that then.!!.
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Great video, Phil. Very honest, unbiased info in my opinion. I like them all. I have the Gorgon and love it. And I’ve had a few stampedes in my life (nitro way back in the late 90’s) and loved them too. I really wanted to love the jumpshot so I could convince myself I needed one. 🤣 Cause it really does look awesome. But, it was just soooo slow. I’m not one to get hung up on how fast a lot of these can go. But the Stampede and the Gorgon were just on another level compared to it. Even on 3s it looked slow. Thanks for these types of vids, Phil. 🙌🏼 😎 I always enjoy them.
The team associated Rival MT10 kit is 250 USD, was 200 at christmas and comes with everything needed including a albeit slow but still works USB charger.
I added a 25 dollar gool RC brushless ESC and motor and order a GOOLRC B6AC charger and just at 250 grand total.
This was my Step-sons christmas gift and hes having a tough time trying to break it.
I really like my HPI stadium truck and short course truck. Sister cars to the monster truck. The fact you can move the center of gravity with six screws. Gorgon is hard to beat. It deserves the title.
New to all this found your channel from a friend and brilliant content your putting out man just ordered a small truck cant wait to try them out, awsome to see you doing the raffles aswell bought a few tickets keep up the good work mate!
Excellent review. I would like to get a Gorgon when they come back into stock in the UK.
Yeah. It’s a decent truck! And sometimes it’s hard to tell it’s 2wd!
You could always do 2 3-car-shootouts, and then compare the 2 winners and have a King.. love these shootouts, and other content though I am more into FPV and crawlers.. watched nearly all videos, just catching up on the xmas calendar ones! ❤
Stampede: Lower the body (cut the posts) and it looks waaaay better IMO.
I would love to see a video like this for 1/10 scale crawlers and then One for 1/18 and 1/24 crawlers.
Love this comparison type video. Thanks for that.
Thanks mate
I love the clips with the camera showing the suspension travel/movement! Top notch man!
Build a Tamiya RC over 40 years ago as a young teen. Would love to get one of these 2WD. How things have changed! My brother and I had about 5mins on the battery racing together then hook up to car battery for an age before next race. Lots of patience needed. Amazing cast metal models back then. New to channel and loving it 👍 takes me back. My 12yo daughter would love an RC MT but perhaps I want one more! Watching these jump has made my day!
I love them all, I want 2 of each 😁 Cool vid Phill 👍
Great review. I can't say I like the look of the Gorgon much, but it seems to be a fun truck, and at a good price point.
I feel like for budget RC the big brands are much too expensive for what you get. I know a lot of people want these brands and not a "Bangood special" but 200$ No charger and battery for a 2wd seems insane.
Yeah, although the Gorgon does come with battery/charger for under 200 👌
I do like the arrma gorgon definitely worth it
I love hpi I'm a big fan of hpi but the arrma is definitely the best deal definitely 👍
Bigger companies offer more services and support
@@Otownmcmoney Yeah I was going to say parts and support are what keep people in the hobby. Good luck finding documentation and parts for some of these banggood specials. That $150 banggood RC becomes an expensive paperweight when it breaks.
You pay for quality in this hobby and the barrier for entry with the well known brands is plenty low.
They're honestly dressed up toy grade RC cars now that components are cheaper.
Here in Denmark the gorgon is cheaper than the HPI Jumpshot MT
Gorgon is a bargain then 👌
Very good video and a fair conclusion.
However, I don't completely agree. The Jumpshot is the cheapest, with the highest spec. To me, that's the definition of "value for money". I'd have put that as 1st for VFM, with the Gorgon 2nd. This would have left the HPI & Arrma on an even 13 points, which I think it absolutely spot-on: one is faster, lots of fun out of the box and more bash-orientated, but the spec is low. The other has a more premium feel and higher specs, but needs money spent to make it quick. To me, that's a 50/50. Cheers!
Yes, I mean you are right… but I think I was also taking in to account fun factor in that VFM… and anyway, the Flux is better than all of them, and in budget… I was just being kind to the Karen’s that would have said it was unfair 😅
Ha! The Karen Army is always looming! @@TomleyRC
Speed run surprise me the gorgon looks fast where the traxxas looked a lot slower but they where the same i think the gorgon even looks the best colours really pop on them especially the Greeny yellow colour i like it red still pops but not as much as the other one and i think its definitely the best value for money comes with battery and charger well cool ❄👍
If I was sticking to the budget I would buy the SC flux model . I would be more interested in Traxxas if they would release some roller models and keep their crap electronics. Anyway cheers love the lists
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I love the onboard footage you get of the suspension in action.
I believe Corally may have discontinued there 2wd trucks, parts still available at the moment though. Also you need to upgrade the main plastic diff gear in the gearbox of the brushed Jumpshot if going to brushless, the flux version comes with a metal gear stock. Having said that the metal diff gear is only just over £6 to upgrade.
They have, sadly. The Corally 2WD trucks were as tough as nails and incredible value. It's a shame.
With the HPI being capable of running 3S, it makes sense it would be geared lower & you'd get a lower top speed on 2S..
I bet if you ran it with a larger pinion or on 3S it would be more or less the same as the other two..
Also, the Traxxas comes dead last in my opinion because it's far FAR too expensive, old as sh#t, looks stupid & it's definitely not brushless ready like the other two, you'll have to spend almost £30 on a set of "super heavy duty" (😂 😂) driveshafts, then replace the shocks.!
Also.. IT'S TOO BLOODY EXPENSIVE.!!!!!
Gordon just takes first place... I love the HPI but I'd rather have it as a short course truck.!!
As always Phil, another smashing video.!! 👍 👍 👍
Stay safe out there mate & best wishes from Scotland 🏴 🙏 ❤️ 📻 🕹️ 🔋 🚗 🚖 🚕 🚔 🚚 🚙 🚘 🚓 🚒 🚑 🚐 🚎 🚤 🚁 🛩️
Great film shot especially the onboard. 👌
All 3 have great potential. I like to customize all mine and test everything. Out of the box. The GORGON is the best. Hands down. Especially being its cheaper
It's a Tomley Top Gear Torture Test. 😎👍🏻
Haha
I always send the Stampede to nephews for their first RC. Fun to drive, can take a bash, and parts are bountiful.
That being said, I wouldn’t want it for myself. I prefer ST’s.
Yeah, it’s decent.. just showing it’s age now
@@TomleyRC especially considering it's nearly a 30 year old platform now!
@@FastSS02 speaking of age, I want a Tamiya Lunchbox.
@@RabbiJesus I've always wanted one because my cousin had one when I was a kid. But I think I'd be disappointed if I actually bought one now.
@@FastSS02 That’s the exact reason I don’t have one as of yet. Maybe a lunchbox body on a newer platform is the solution..?
Love this segment. Pls do it to every category.
I mean for the jumpshot you can get it brushless for about the same as a battery included gorgon
Yes I know… I mention it at the end 😅
@@TomleyRC yeah I posted this at the part when you complained about the speed of the hpi
Also if you were to do a brush less version of 2wd Mt the hpi would probably win hands down based you on price
@@cazadon yes haha.. I always can tell when a comment is before someone’s watched all the video 😎
I enjoyed this comparison and I agree with the final results. I think the HPI has a lot to offer, but the speed really lets it down. I like the Gorgon a lot, but I think the body can let it down. You mentioned the Stampede has cross head or phillips screws. I agree that they are not as good.. I saw a review of the basic Bandit and the reviewer pointed out that basic Bandit, Stampede, etc. are aimed at people new to r/c. These people are more likely to have a crosshead screwdriver at home. I think this review is a very good idea.
The HPI Jumpshot on brushless (flux) is only 200 euro in Germany. It hits 80+ kmh!
@@janklaassen6404 The Flux version in the U.S. is $255 and the brushed version is $185. I would like to see HPI return to the prominence it once had. If they lowered the price on the brushed version to a very low price, in my opinion they would sell a lot and in turn they would sell lots of parts.
i like that u got ya own lane bro 💪🏿💪🏿
Yes... nobody else is welcome haha
@@TomleyRC 😂😂
Great series, hopefully this will help new comers see the checks and balances before they buy 👍
I just ordered Gorgon at 1am today. It’s gonna be my first ever rc car, and it rips 40km/h. Rental electric scooters in my country go max at 20mh/h and this bad boy just doubles it up. Damn I’m gonna be so happy 😊
I have to say, I’m more and more impressed with your channel everyday. Thank you for sharing and spending your time making good content.
Unfortunately for me, my local hobby shop seems better stocked for Traxxas parts than any other brand. From what I've seen, though, that Gorgon really take a beating.
Hi, phil! good video, I really enjoyed watching!
the only question I have - are you gonna make a vid about a hyper go with clipless body? (16208)
I'd really enjoy that too :D
Yes, should be soon
@@TomleyRC YAAAAAAYYY! looking forward to it :DD
I think the HPI should've been ran with 3S if it supports it. No need to pull an "equity" card to chop its performance down just because the other two don't have that ability. Edit: ouch, even with a 3S it's still slow!
I couldn't tell from the video, is the Stampede top heavy? It looks like it might have a lot of traction roll problems. Thanks.
It certainly likes to roll over more than the others
The Stampede is tall, with a relatively narrow track width. Hence the roll-overs.
I’ve been watching your vids for a few weeks now. You and Kevin’s. I can’t tell if you guys squashed the beef between each other. Kevin is a funny dude.
You haven’t watched enough if you dont know the answer to that lol
Excellent comparison video. Thanks!🎉
I like the jump shot but the mid motor in the arrma is better for balance..The Traxxas is what it's been for ever lol..Solid.
Hold on. HPI does 3S which the others can't. It did 16mph, while the others did 24mph. 1,5 x 16 = 24. It's probably geared for 3S, so you should test it on 3S too I think. 2S is like the beginner speed for the HPI.
It was still slow on 3 cell as could be seen.
@@DelDredd Yeah, it seemed slower in the skate park. However, Tomley just did a 3s gps check on his second channel and it scored 23mph. It would still have lost the speed test.
@@janklaassen6404 It only did 23 on 3s? That's crazy
@@cwatson42785 Yeah, it's slow. The brushless versions however are real quick and in Europe not that expensive. HPI Jumpshot Flux is about 200 euro and hits 50-60 mph on 3s.
@janklaassen6404 Oh nice! Yeah that's definitely a decent deal. I think it looks the best out of the 3 as well
Fantastic testing and comparison, Phil! 😃
I don't know if they exist, but if you could find 3 cheap trucks from China, the same size (are they 1/8? Right?), a comparison would be great as well!!!
Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
If you don’t mind, I built a stock Tamiya clod buster when I was a young lad, and it is long gone. Maybe a future video build one with little to mild hop ups! It would bring back memories. Don’t forget the old commercials
We need more suspension cams, that is such a cool angle
Thx for all the great videos. Not all big money cars and trucks. Also not destroying everything
It's oddly satisfying to watch the suspension working from underneath 😎
Love the music during the Stampede skate park run 😂😂😂
I think it was well matched haha
Fantastic video. What camera were you using for the on board shots? Look nuts. I need one.
Those under slung suspension shots are awesome.
If you want to buy a Gorgon or Granite Voltage, be prepared to replace the servo. I got one for my sister and it broke the first skate park. Went for an eco power and no problems yet.
I enjoyed this affordable MT shoot out. Anyone can do a comparison on the top of the top of the line models. But these relatively in expensive models are where most of the viewers enter into the hobby. It’s best to know what’s the best r/c you can afford is when making the decision. Someone who buys a shitty r/c maybe be turned off by breaking and lack of fun and leave the hobby. These shootouts as we call them in the USA are meant to build the community. Can’t love this more. So i ask like Oliver Twist… more please
Nice video as always Phil. I agree the Arrma Gorgon is the best overall truck of the three. I just kinda wished Arrma ditched the old Nicad battery and charger and put the money into upgrading to 2s brushless ESC & motor for similar money. I would even go as far as to delete the included transmitter/receiver and offer a roller with ESC and motor. It would bring the price down and reduce landfill. Lord knows I don’t need another controller kicking around the house!
Come to think of it I don’t see the point of buying a Granite Grom at current pricing with the Gorgon around for similar money. Now if the Grom was $50 less…different story.
And then there is Traxxas…… So out of date and they really don’t offer anything of value for people just starting out in the hobby. If they offered a kick arse entry level truck for a smaller profit margin they would gain a big brand following from people as they progress within the hobby. The game has moved on.
Idle suggestion on these shootouts; might be fun to add a "modability" category, and give yourself a smallish budget and a timeframe to carry out a couple of basic mods (bearings, pinions, tires, 3S battery, maybe a cheap brushless combo etc); would be nice to get a bit of an idea as to how easy it it to work on the vehicles, as well as how much potential there is in them as a platform.
the stampede was the first hobby grade rc i ever bought for myself, so there is some sentiment there for it. i converted it onto a slash though because i wanted more stability for speed running. i love my stampede though!
Agreed Gorgon is the best beginner and fun for a seasoned RC hobbyist as well. I will say I’d take the Stampede over the HPI though.
Nice video,oving these comparisons.
2 points. 1st. Not sure why anyone would buy a 2WD MT when you can get a 4WD brushless truggy for less!
What are the benefits of these?
2nd: Traxxas Rustler 4x4 Vs Arrma Vorteks Vs Maverick Quantum!
The Gorgon was my first introduction into cheap beginner level RC cars so naturally I had to put a 3S system in it 😅 but overall VERY impressed and happy with the durability. It’s the only car other than the Grom I’ll take to a skatepark. Other than the battery tray breaking off a huge jump (technically it was my fault because I didn’t zip tie it in, Arrma actually includes a set with a new tray and the chassis is notched to accept it) it’s held up very well. The suspension soaks up huge jumps and looks badass around corners and landing. I ended up buying my nephew one for Christmas and had a weird issue where the remote reversed itself on the throttle. Luckily, I was able to figure it out, but only because I’ve had experience with other RTR remotes doing the same thing, but on the Gorgon, there is no throttle reverse switch.
Gorgon sucks, O'doyle Rules!
Bought the Gorgon and love it. 2S brings it to life, I'm sure upgrading to brushless 3S would create a whole new beast. No regrets.
I really enjoy these comparison videos.
I'd love to see your opinion on best 1/10 basher in a comparison video. Arrma Granite 3S vs Rival MT10 vs Traxxas Stampede and a couple of other alternatives that could give those three a run for their money.
Love your videos mate but it seems like you cook them a bit whenever Traxxas is involved. Yes, their stock servos are wretched but that hit was entirely your fault. Sure the Gorgon was the best but I think the HPI deserved the 3 spot not the Stampede.
I like the 2wd stadium trucks i own a brushed stampede and it's ok i would like to try the hpi
I enjoy my Rustler a lot more than my Stampede. Both brushless. Big issue is their shocks. They always bend, and they're expensive. I have lots of Traxxas, but lots of other brands.
For body strength, my HPI FJ Cruiser body has taken a beating in the rocks here in Montana, but it does have some reinforcement. Only upgrades are tires and steering servo, and it performs really well, but it's smaller than my other 1/10 crawlers. Plus, it recovers really, really well! If you want a cheap crawler that does well, I'm happy. I definitely recommend masking screen with epoxy.
I absolutely love the quality of the HPI Jumpshot flux for a few dollars more.
The ESC & Motor run well, the quality of the plastics are up there.
The only 3 things i dislike is the plastic Spur which is extreemly expensive to buy a steel one.
The other issue is performance of the motor and esc is nothing like the Traxxas Vellion. With a 4000kv and 3s esc i expected alot more .
I have bought an 84 tooth spur which may help top speed a little when it arrives.
You should definitely do one of these videos with Short Course Trucks! (Senton vs Slash vs SC10) all at the $330 USD price point
The Slash BL-2S is $330, but is only 2S, whereas both the Senton and SC10 are 3S 40-50mph trucks.. so maybe the VXL? It would be very overpriced but the better comparison.
Unless its a tamiya , there just no need for bushings .. in this day in age small ball bearings are very common in super cheap most cases cheaper then the bushing.
The Gorgon is the only 1/10 I’ve bought in years and it’s an absolute banger to drive. But as always I have been enabled by this video to possibly invest in that flux HPI 😂. Love that TVP chassis.
I've got a Maverick Strada MT. It's been rebranded over and over for years, so spares are readily available. Lots of alloy upgrades available too. It's 4wd and has eight oil shocks, and it's as cheap as chips. It's great.
During Christmas, Arrma was running a great sale on the Granite 4x4 mega in the US. Got it for $199. As a nitro guy, I love having the cheap electric basher to compliment my nitro Rustler and revo 3.3
One giant weakness in the stampede it’s it’s servos and it servo savers I don’t know why traxxas won’t fix it
Yes.. not a big hit really and it broke
Because how else are they going to get your money on buying part
@@cazadon yes but that’s why traxxas cheaper models are so unpopular since they are pretty unreliable why do you think they made a 2.0?
@@TomleyRC yup very true
@@s109apache7 so that they can charge more for the same platform that they have for over 20 years now
Not gonna lie at the start I was thinking that gorgon is poop end of the video I want a gorgon 😂 it's a little beast
Haha.. yeah, when I first got it I want sure… but it’s growing on me 👌
@TomleyRC that's what she said 😆 🤣 sorry I had too. Yeah it's looks are not the best but the rest of it is good for not a massive amount of money.
Please keep doing these battles
What I learned was that the 4wd, all metal drivetrain, brushless 1:16 HyperGo is a way, way, WAY better deal.
Well you chose wrong. The gorgon is the way to go
This is just my opinion but I really think that because these are out of the box testing that the HPI should be allowed to run on 3S. Since it's 3s capable, I don't think that it should be hindered by the fact being that it was designed to run on 3S also and not being allowed to in the test seems unfair. And that being said, the Traxxas should be allowed to run the speed pinion for the speed test since it actually came with it. If it was something that it didn't come with that would be a whole different subject, but due to the fact being it actually came with the speed pinion I think that it should be allowed to run it and the HPI should not be dinged for the fact being it was designed to run two and three s. I guarantee you if it was only 2S rated it would have been geared faster and be cheaper. Of course this is just my opinion. Love watching your videos. Keep up the good work. I really enjoy this type of stuff
Thanks! I won $20 on this video. I bet my friend that the Stampede would come last. With your history with Traxxas, it was a sure bet.
Very nice video you should do more of these leaderboard competitions. I think your rating is pretty fair on the driving aspect, but I would like to throw in some remarks. I don’t see the Phillips screws as a bad think. These cars are made for beginners and kids. Most households have a good supply of Phillip screwdrivers so no extra expense in tools. I don’t like two in one esc if you want to upgrade to brushless you need a new radio. Lastly the you criticised the Traxxas radio for being old but the hpi radio is almost old enough to drink.
Love your videos dude
Just picked up an Arrma Gorgon rta today. thanks this video helped me make my decision
What camera do you use, and how do you attach said camera to the chassis for those onboard shots?
The Gorgon looks like loads of fun. Makes me regret buying a brushless wltoys. Also I keep hoping that the Senton 3s goes on some crazy sale like the Vendetta did but starting to doubt it
One thing you have to consider is parts availability,my local store always has plenty of traxxas replacement parts available
Could I ask what camera you are running on the trucks.
Cheers 👍