Veth's dagger is identified "I can reroll 1's!" | Critical Role | Campaign 2, Ep125

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  • @zackmatthews7644
    @zackmatthews7644 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2606

    Also just a quick note for those who might be confused/angry for what Sam did and why. When the party was fighting the black ooze in one of the previous Aeor ruins, Sam had used the dagger in its throwing capability against one of the Oozes but missed. Matt even said something along the lines of “Veth needs to get the dagger back, needs to”. We know the dagger is cursed, its a curse of greed and a curse of the heal dice death. The Greed curse is and or was another factor in this sort of situation, so obviously Sam would use halfling luck when his party was low key threatening him and using spells against Veth, it was a choice made in like 80% character cause of the curse and 20% trolling for the party really pushing for the dagger to be identified again and stuff. It was a good choice even if you think its “not his character” or “trolling to the next level” because clearly it was. It’s all fun in games so just enjoy the game, the curse is gone, things will be “normal” again

    • @briangiese2628
      @briangiese2628 3 ปีที่แล้ว +382

      Imagine being mad at what someone does in their DND game.

    • @silverwolfe3636
      @silverwolfe3636 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      @@briangiese2628 It stopped being "just a D&D game" when they started their own LLC and got their own studio. Its media to consume now. Why do people keep parroting this whole "it's their game yada yada yada" when people are literally PAYING them to watch it.

    • @abydosianchulac2
      @abydosianchulac2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +435

      @@silverwolfe3636 Because that particular piece of media, the one upon all others are founded, is and always has been their home game. That's why people tuned in in the first place, that's how they gained their following and that's what has been understood and accepted for years. We aren't customers, we're consumers, and people are paying them to support the work they do. We aren't paying for a product, because the product is free to all, on multiple services. The artist isn't required to provide the public what they want.

    • @Shortlan
      @Shortlan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +354

      @@silverwolfe3636 the show is and always will be their game. we as the viewers have absolutely zero rights in telling them how we think they should play. everyone is entitled to their opinions, however i ask that everyone remains civil or else i will delete comments/ban them from this channel.

    • @Wyrnikh
      @Wyrnikh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +152

      Not to mention that anyone who is paying is paying to watch them play, not paying to tell them how to play.
      You paid for the experience, not for ownership of the play, just as with any theatrical production.

  • @Dramatic_Gaming
    @Dramatic_Gaming 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3992

    "You attuned to this thing?!"
    Big words coming from Grog 'My Sword is Talking to Me' Strongjaw.

    • @ProphecyWillow
      @ProphecyWillow 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      This doesn't have anywhere near as many likes as it should.

    • @MadBoyChes
      @MadBoyChes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +139

      grog had a int of six is the diffrence

    • @MaDmOnStErQr
      @MaDmOnStErQr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +86

      @@MadBoyChes yeah, he knows what his doing

    • @MadBoyChes
      @MadBoyChes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@MaDmOnStErQr Exactly

    • @scarlightemperor3410
      @scarlightemperor3410 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@MadBoyChes to be fair, that's percy's fault.

  • @ohthewhomanity
    @ohthewhomanity 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2260

    "So you could've used that ability at any time?" "Noooo, not at any time! Just if it was funny!"

    • @shaderax_storm6165
      @shaderax_storm6165 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Such a good film to take quotes from!
      Did you ever work out which toon Framed Roger rabbit? I can spoil it for you!
      Spoiler warning: it was pistol packing possum. If you pause the film around the 19 minute mark you can see a poster of the red eyed rodent.
      I don't think I have ever heard anyone talk about it 🤔

    • @IrisGlowingBlue
      @IrisGlowingBlue 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ++

  • @imkabochan
    @imkabochan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3226

    Just imagine the shock and utter bafflement of everyone in the cast AND in chat if one day in a random battle, Veth just dropped dead.
    Sam Riegel.
    You insane person.

    • @iDongu
      @iDongu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +229

      Jester would be even more put off of healing people than she already is

    • @daniellewis1789
      @daniellewis1789 3 ปีที่แล้ว +86

      And even better/worse, if some other party member picked it up...

    • @WardenPlays
      @WardenPlays 3 ปีที่แล้ว +148

      Grog did the same thing in the last campaign lol. Randomly after a short rest he just eats dirt.

    • @ItamarO93
      @ItamarO93 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      A little part of me wants that to happen, just to see it.

    • @GreatGoatRebellion
      @GreatGoatRebellion 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      It also would’ve been the second time she died because of a random unexpected magical effect

  • @bsabruzzo
    @bsabruzzo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1890

    Now go back and watch every fight that Veth uses the dagger. Notice how she always suggests other people get healed or makes certain she is far away from those who can do mass healing.

    • @dustinmichel7608
      @dustinmichel7608 3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      Ur so right

    • @elbruces
      @elbruces 3 ปีที่แล้ว +335

      All the times they're like "Veth, do you need healing" and Sam's like "I'm fine, I'm fine" even though his Veth's points are really low.

    • @bsabruzzo
      @bsabruzzo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +297

      @@elbruces That's a compilation somebody needs to put together. Star with getting the dagger and learning what it does and when she uses the dagger (that compilation already exists), but add in all the refusals for healing. Finally end with the reveal that magical healing lowers her hit die and when she runs out, she dies.

    • @Kino_Cartoon
      @Kino_Cartoon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      @@elbruces I always thought that's her motherly caring side! I didn't know it was the weapon! Holy moly.

    • @destinyraeloyd
      @destinyraeloyd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      A few episodes before this one, I think Sam (Veth) freaked out because she got close to dying whilst healing during a short rest. 😳 I wish I remembered what Ep and timestamp.. the crew was like what's going on? And Sam was like "oh nothing!"

  • @Indioprophecy81
    @Indioprophecy81 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2419

    If you think about it Sam using luck to to keep a curse dagger fits the character motivation at the moment.

    • @TheLegendaryLegacy
      @TheLegendaryLegacy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Wouldn’t using halfling luck a few episodes ago to help her found family also be character motivation? Even though Sam adamantly refused to.
      A bit salty I’m not gonna lie. Still funny though.

    • @CamWhiteMusic
      @CamWhiteMusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +107

      @@TheLegendaryLegacy It’s because it was a no-consequence situation with the dagger. He elaborated in Talks Machina that he finds it cheap and doesn’t want to bs his way out of bad situations because of luck

    • @arthaiser
      @arthaiser 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      halfing luck is a feature but is not like an "ability" that you use or not simply because you want. mechanically it is, but narratively is simply that veth is "lucky". you cant really control luck in real life, so sam can always choose to reroll ones of not reroll ones and i will never be a character choice, veth is not the one making the decision, sam is.
      when sam makes veth shoot a bolt at something, is a character choice, because veth, as a character is doing it.
      when veth tries to dodge a fireball, she is not rolling dice, she is taking cover, getting out of the way... how well does she do that is determined by a dice that is beyond the fantasy world, so anything that has to do with rerolling that dice is a player choice

    • @MrLeothekingofkings
      @MrLeothekingofkings 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@TheLegendaryLegacy it feels a bit more real to me this way, like in the mist of being cursed having a skill literally unlock in you I order to resist losing what’s yours, plus same gets to fuck with the cast

    • @zackmatthews7644
      @zackmatthews7644 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@MrLeothekingofkings plus Im pretty sure the other half of the curse was a greed curse, Matt mentioned something about it in the Black Ooze encounter in a ruin

  • @toomanysecrets
    @toomanysecrets 3 ปีที่แล้ว +848

    “And you attuned to this thing?!”
    “Uh huh!” :{D

    • @galstaffsorcereroflight4716
      @galstaffsorcereroflight4716 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      You just made me realize that there needs to be a moustache twitch emote.

    • @toomanysecrets
      @toomanysecrets 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@galstaffsorcereroflight4716 right? Lol

    • @meebabeebadeembadeemdam6787
      @meebabeebadeembadeemdam6787 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Seriously my favorite moment. The gleeful innocence but also conniving grin in a simple "uh huh =D". Couple that with it coming from Travis Craven Edge Willingham is THE best.

  • @KAINSAMA
    @KAINSAMA 3 ปีที่แล้ว +887

    "FILTHY MIGHTY NEINS, THEY TOOK IT FROM US!!"

    • @Gala-yp8nx
      @Gala-yp8nx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      “Stupid Tieflingses!”

    • @garethlamb6923
      @garethlamb6923 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      “I’m not trying to rob you, I’m trying to help you.”

    • @ASuspiciousCrab
      @ASuspiciousCrab 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@garethlamb6923 "I'm not trying to help you
      I ' m t r y i n g t o r o b you"

    • @StirrCrazy90
      @StirrCrazy90 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      HRAAAGH!!!

    • @ForeverDegenerate
      @ForeverDegenerate 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Caleb: "VETH BRENATTO!! DO NOT TAKE ME FOR COME CONJURER OF CHEAP TRICKS!!"

  • @lillkvirran
    @lillkvirran 3 ปีที่แล้ว +714

    Matt's reaction to Sam finally using luck, has got to be one of my favourites ever! He's so into it lol

    • @sinan4495
      @sinan4495 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      2:52 I agree, watched it in 0,25x Speed to see how the realization washes over them

    • @danielboatright8887
      @danielboatright8887 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      To quote Matt when killing Molly: Respect.

    • @GRIMHOOD99
      @GRIMHOOD99 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Because there are only two people at the table who know that it is cursed and it's him and Sam. So his reaction is based on all the information and it is really funny.

  • @gamerk316
    @gamerk316 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1838

    The absolute troll move by Sam, who hates using Halfling Luck, to use it when it's literally his life on the line.

    • @sillyking1991
      @sillyking1991 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      why does sam hate using halfling luck? just because he likes to fail?

    • @takinggaming6640
      @takinggaming6640 3 ปีที่แล้ว +119

      @@sillyking1991 after Liam and his Luck feat from last campaign, they kinda agreed using luck was stupid

    • @gamerk316
      @gamerk316 3 ปีที่แล้ว +183

      @@sillyking1991 He mentioned this on the Talks Machina podcast two weeks ago (which made his use of it even more hilarious). His reasoning is D&D is all about die rolls, and he hates the concept of getting another opportunity if the die rolls go against you. He's basically against it on principle.
      Which again, makes his use of it that much more halarious.

    • @sillyking1991
      @sillyking1991 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@gamerk316 hmmm, thats fair i suppose.

    • @HeyLetsDoAThing
      @HeyLetsDoAThing 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@gamerk316 He’s really just using it to troll. If he cared about principle, he wouldn’t have used it at all. Besides, if he valued failure like that, he’d also have a problem with advantage and proficiency, but he uses those all the time, and they’re far more powerful than halfling luck in terms of avoiding failure.

  • @ktriplenine
    @ktriplenine 3 ปีที่แล้ว +366

    “You know, there was a dagger that came with it” Grog, after Craven Edge was banished.

    • @The1WithoutFear
      @The1WithoutFear 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      So help me God, if Matt used that level of recall...

    • @ForeverDegenerate
      @ForeverDegenerate 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@The1WithoutFear Would not surprise me. I mean, this is the same man that sat on Vilya since the BEGINNING OF CAMPAIGN ONE.

    • @Blue_Lunacy
      @Blue_Lunacy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I hope this got asked in the post-campaign Talks.

  • @amarakeizer-quintanilla9761
    @amarakeizer-quintanilla9761 3 ปีที่แล้ว +499

    Everyone arguing in the comments about his choices with halfling’s luck… look how delighted the cast is. Annoyed, yes, but all in a grinning laughing way. They’re having so much fun, why do you guys have to argue when the point of the game is to have fun?

    • @cobaltblu4196
      @cobaltblu4196 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      2 words
      Rules Lawyers

    • @Klespyrian
      @Klespyrian ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's called a conversation. I think the majority would agree this clip was hilarious and enjoyable or we wouldn't be here. Discussing the decision is part of the fun of watching Critical Role for many people.

  • @Klebkatt
    @Klebkatt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +343

    I find it hilarious that the hafling gets the one item that she is obsessive over and willing to kill for.

    • @chechema1010
      @chechema1010 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      ...and die for, apparently.

    • @tawnyclawx
      @tawnyclawx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I mean, magical compulsion. Yes, Veth is naturally that way, but even then, her greed and obsession was very much an affect of the curse. There are many magical items that compel you never to let go of them.

    • @wyrmshard
      @wyrmshard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@tawnyclawx I think it was a Lord of the Rings reference

    • @KingNefiiria
      @KingNefiiria 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It's mine, my own, my _precious_

  • @dustinmichel7608
    @dustinmichel7608 3 ปีที่แล้ว +631

    Sam campaign character for season 3 is a troll that actually trolls people. Lol

    • @bernieh3507
      @bernieh3507 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      there’s going to be a season 3?!?

    • @kairos4484
      @kairos4484 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@bernieh3507 Liam already planned there next characters.

    • @dustinmichel7608
      @dustinmichel7608 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@kairos4484 I'm hoping Liam Dm's and Matt gets a chance to play. I also hope Laura plays a grown up kieri.

    • @kairos4484
      @kairos4484 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@dustinmichel7608 Liam DMing would be an interesting idea, but I don't think Laura would ever play kieri. It wouldn't make sense for the way they play.

    • @dustinmichel7608
      @dustinmichel7608 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Matt play luke grown up as a rogue, Sam plays a barbarian troll, Laura as Kiri the fighter. Kiri would have a good vocabulary by adult hood. Lol

  • @SweetDeath777
    @SweetDeath777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +679

    I am so glad Laura was unto the dagger being actually sus but like 10% of me would love it if Veth had just dropped dead randomly in the middle of fighting Lucien.I would have shit a brick. the DRAMA.

    • @SimonWolfie
      @SimonWolfie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      best part would be because it would be something like a healing word or something that does it, just something to keep Veth from dying for another round before they could pump more healing into her and that would just... Oof.

    • @charliescheirmann2926
      @charliescheirmann2926 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I don't know if when in combat with Lucien if Veth was every in the anti magic cone. But it would have most likely temporarily made the dagger non magical. Which is interesting given it being cursed.

    • @ForeverDegenerate
      @ForeverDegenerate 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@charliescheirmann2926 I'm pretty sure it would have just taken away the extra damage and not the curse itself.

    • @veterOKK93
      @veterOKK93 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      In this campaign they have a tendency to be too careful. And they have more than 12 hit die's so this effect probably wouldn't happen. If you cast greater restoration every time teammate acting weird, everything become little more safe and boring.

    • @charliescheirmann2926
      @charliescheirmann2926 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@veterOKK93 Kinda hard to do with the material component tho

  • @ItamarO93
    @ItamarO93 3 ปีที่แล้ว +226

    6:21
    The look of utter and sheer glee on his face is all the proof one needs to know Sam is the crazy player.

  • @tacitakoe5004
    @tacitakoe5004 3 ปีที่แล้ว +482

    Someone's gonna have to go back through the 10 or so episodes Veth has had this thing to count the number of times she got healed while under the influence of its curse. I wanna know how close she got to dropping like a sack of potatoes.

    • @Mazygolucky
      @Mazygolucky 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Crit Role Stats should do it!

    • @heroniusnapalmv6990
      @heroniusnapalmv6990 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      You get half your max hit di back on a long rest so unlikely

    • @jerkq
      @jerkq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@heroniusnapalmv6990 you actually only get half of the Hit Dice used. So at 10th level if you used all your HD during short rests, you'd only get 5 HD back after a long rest. It adds up...

    • @craigstarbird6915
      @craigstarbird6915 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@jerkq you just said the same thing as the guy you were trying to correct

    • @roberttheguy4974
      @roberttheguy4974 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@craigstarbird6915 no half of max and half of used are different if you have say 12 hit die and you use 10 you only get 5 back not 6

  • @littledragongirl10
    @littledragongirl10 3 ปีที่แล้ว +590

    This is perfect for this character! The using of halfling luck to keep what is hers away from people because it's hers is just amazing!

    • @HowdyItLovll
      @HowdyItLovll 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      More than this, I think Sam was purposefully trying to get Veth killed, the same way Caleb used disintegrate (during the vokodo fight) with the thought that it could get reflected and kill someone.

    • @kairos4484
      @kairos4484 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HowdyItLovll How do those correlate?

    • @HowdyItLovll
      @HowdyItLovll 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kairos4484 which part

    • @kairos4484
      @kairos4484 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HowdyItLovll Nevermind, i rewatched that seen with vokodo and liam knew what he was doing.

    • @newsance2u
      @newsance2u 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@HowdyItLovll But on talks Liam said he forgot about the reflection ability which made sense cause he thought they were banishing the boss only for it to come back cause everyone got greedy

  • @ElaeZ
    @ElaeZ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +351

    by the comments some people dislike this sam play, actually i find it one of the reason i see sam as one of the best players in that table, he kept that dagger for so long, used something he didnt wanted to abuse to avoid a big reveal, no one else (aside maybe liam) would've been able to keep a cursed item for that long and in such manner.

    • @ElaeZ
      @ElaeZ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@chrisw2307 yes i did and here's the huge difference : grog was talking multiple times with craven edge, people were aware of it, at least the meta gaming part of them were clearly aware of it, which actually led to the multiple times they told him to not use that weapon, Sam came out of the blue from a weapon taken ages ago, that had death implication while giving quite crappy bonusses, that he REALLY tried to keep playing into the cursed nature of the item itself affecting his mind. (while i like travis, that's not even comparable to this one)

    • @outcastwayne
      @outcastwayne 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I disagree, the only thing he kept hidden was the health dice thing, everything else was very obvious. Felt like he was trying to force the others to take it from him quickly.

    • @Humble197
      @Humble197 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@outcastwayne It is more interesting to give the chance for them to save him and fail then he just dies suddenly.

    • @outcastwayne
      @outcastwayne 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Humble197 oh of course, I think it was just done a bit too obviously. Like when he threw it at the machine and after the fight did this big blatant, slowly spoken 'I guess I will look for... MY. DAGGER.' it felt like he was being much too obvious about it.

    • @TheDangerNoodle
      @TheDangerNoodle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@outcastwayne Since it seems you dont know, the dagger also had a Greed Curse. Theres a reason Matt has always been narrating that Veth **has** to have her dagger whenever she looses it.

  • @toschiworlds7212
    @toschiworlds7212 3 ปีที่แล้ว +169

    Travis was having Cravenedge flashbacks there

  • @invaderzam
    @invaderzam 3 ปีที่แล้ว +172

    Even from beyond the grave Avantika is giving them grief

    • @Zombiewithabowtie
      @Zombiewithabowtie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm sure she's not done doing so either.

    • @Klespyrian
      @Klespyrian 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Zombiewithabowtie good call

  • @Chaendar
    @Chaendar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Matt giggle-squealing "You're such a dick" is my new favorite thing lol

  • @DStar1313
    @DStar1313 3 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    A minor thing I think a lot of people are overlooking but Caduceus was angling for a decent way to get the knife away from Veth when throwing is mentioned. I bet if Cad and Veth talked longer then he would have baited Veth into throwing it then restraining her immediately.

  • @HansHammertime
    @HansHammertime 3 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    Sam "I'll probably only resort to using luck when the life of my friends hangs in the balance" Riegel

    • @weebjeez
      @weebjeez ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Sam "If Yasha doesn't give my dagger back I'll kill her" Riegal never stated he would use Luck to *defend* those friends.

  • @ThatAstard
    @ThatAstard 3 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    i love sam's "I GLUED it to you, HA-HAAAAAaa!" at 4:45

  • @LeoNepeta
    @LeoNepeta 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    I love that the Talks before this, Sam said he wasn't planning on ever using Halfling Luck XD

  • @Quadraxis
    @Quadraxis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    Matt: "Okay, here's the curse details."
    Sam: "Matt, this is..."
    Matt: "I know, but hey, you could always throw it aw-"
    Sam: *grins maniacally*

  • @NERFTommy99
    @NERFTommy99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Sam's mad genius cackle over a hypothetical innocent prank that defuses the weight of the situation combined with the insane expression on his face just kills me every time.

  • @cdshadow
    @cdshadow 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    The quiet when he said if I get healed I lose hit dice and when they are gone I die. Damn

    • @theadultdemon
      @theadultdemon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Especially Taliesin's face since the dawning realization that Caduesus' heals can cause more damage than help to Veth

  • @grimgreycastle5141
    @grimgreycastle5141 3 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    Is no other DM going to mention that Matt was cool to use hit dice for the effect of the dagger since theres not much use for them

    • @bigdrew565
      @bigdrew565 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Nastiest curse you can invent for your players: anything that messes with healing. It gets to be not fun real fast. Especially if you're still running 2nd edition games with the old resting mechanics. Potentially, Naturally healing from one fight could take you out of a campaign for months in-game.

    • @Klespyrian
      @Klespyrian 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@bigdrew565 Not always. Matt did it quite expertly, far as I can tell. That, and this is 5e, so healing is usually easy.

    • @bigdrew565
      @bigdrew565 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Klespyrian I meant in 2nd edition. If you went RAW, you recovered 1 hp per full day's rest. 3 per day if you had bed rest, and more if you had a healing or herbalist proficiency. High levels, you were potentially looking at losing weeks or months in a campaign, resting up. Especially if your cleric was taking a sabbatical. Or if you were a sadistic bastard like me, you had a campaign in a magic dead zone, which included spiritual magic.

  • @rizahawkeyepierce1380
    @rizahawkeyepierce1380 3 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    This is hilarious, but deep in my drama-loving heart I'm just a little disappointed that Veth didn't suddenly drop dead in the middle of a fight.

    • @Niyucuatro
      @Niyucuatro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Even better, drop dead when healing the party after a fight.

  • @warwickwagner4797
    @warwickwagner4797 2 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    I'm sorry controversial opinion but I love Sam for moments like this. Like in the Laughing Hand fight when Veth was mind-controlled, Sam totally went with it instead of having Veth act conflicted. He recognises misfortune and curses and being a fun part of the game - If everything went according to plan all the time then where's the fun? If I was in his situation I'd use my Halfling Luck as well bc it fits what my character would do under the curse. Admittedly the fact this is the ONLY time he uses that feature is surprising but tbh it's more funny than anything else, so even if it's not consistent with Veth, it IS consistent with Sam.

    • @meebabeebadeembadeemdam6787
      @meebabeebadeembadeemdam6787 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agree!

    • @fangzntalonz
      @fangzntalonz ปีที่แล้ว +4

      If anything I think Veth actually using her Luck shows just how strong a hold the curse had on her.

  • @Sam-on5jf
    @Sam-on5jf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    watching this moment at 1 am, barely paying attention to the ep and more just laughing at my friend's texts, was the biggest surge of adrenaline I have ever felt in my life.

    • @yurigouveawagner9432
      @yurigouveawagner9432 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I watched the 1st rebroadcast (starts at 5am where I live) and this was enough to completely wake me up when it happened

  • @mathybrain8
    @mathybrain8 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    This is the same dagger Avantika killed owl Frumpkin over when Caleb tried to cast Identify on it.

  • @ignidraws5364
    @ignidraws5364 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Well that's cool. I finished episode 42 a couple weeks ago and I remember Caleb trying to identify it then but Avantika stopped him. To think that they finally identified it 80 episodes later...

  • @essentialasa5233
    @essentialasa5233 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Not gonna lie, this is one of my favorite moments from this campaign. This is what you want at a table. A group of friends that get you well enough to laugh along with your moment of cheek.

  • @toddkobashigawa7670
    @toddkobashigawa7670 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I’m a DM for a group of newbies and the first time our Tiefling used Hellish Rebuke was like 10 sessions in and against another pc who attacked him for an in game squabble

  • @nbeutler1134
    @nbeutler1134 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    “... as if she could..” lmao

  • @Salvationman51
    @Salvationman51 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Am I the only one that remembers them actually Identifying the Core Cut Dagger post Avantika fight. Basically being told the exact same stuff, but since it is Cursed, it doesn't get discovered while Identified. Like Sam could have told them the curse's effect, but due to it being a possessive curse, Nott didn't share it.

    • @Ic3dsoul
      @Ic3dsoul 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No you are not
      but actually matt even says its cursed even though identify wouldnt tell you
      Maybe that is the reason why this escalated to this level? Because everyone kinda knew but didnt want to say anything?

    • @chastermief839
      @chastermief839 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      when Matt explains the extra damage effects on the dagger, Liam even said "I feel like we learned that..." and Matt replied "You did." I guess Matt figured it was a good time to relieve the tension in the room since, with Veth successfully unattuned from the dagger, the cat was out of the bag.
      Though, to be fair, Sam explains the curse instead of Matt. So when Matt says "its also cursed" maybe that's not him providing information from identify, that's just him explaining what's going on for the rest of the party. He sometimes will do stuff like this when the party has basically figured out a minor mystery but there's still some lingering "so is that it?" confusion.

    • @KingNefiiria
      @KingNefiiria 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Ic3dsoul because as much as the group mildly metagames, they also are aware that playing a game where out of character suspicion translating to in-character intermission isn't really fun for playing out deadly concepts.
      Too many players go, "I find that suspicious, NPC TELL ME WHAT YOU KNOW," and then the DM has to play out a scenario where the basic boring shopkeep is being threatened by a bunch of douchebag strangers who came in to their shop, only asked questions, didn't buy a single thing, stole something valuable, and then got gaslighted for seeing them do it.

    • @Ic3dsoul
      @Ic3dsoul 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KingNefiiria yeah you are right but in this case it probably should have been obvious to Bo Caleb and Cad that Not/Veth was acting weird as soon as she started using the dagger
      She never used anything else than a crossbow/spells and suddenly is fixated on this dagger
      Its like seeing your barbarian stop using his grateaxe to use a shortbow

  • @ForeverKite42
    @ForeverKite42 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    this clip makes me feel better. i had to hesitant to catch up from when they joined the Tomb Takers at the end of Dec. Now i feel more secure in watching up to current.

  • @1coolchick
    @1coolchick 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I got to start watching this season again, so funny. Thank you for the clip!

  • @gpearce11
    @gpearce11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I loved this moment, because we all know at this point how much Sam disliked and refused to use Halfling Luck in game (even claiming he would never use it in the previous Talks episode). This could be considered in character, since Veth was fairly chaotic and happy-go-lucky. However, in this instance the dagger was literally forcing Veth to do everything in her power to not let it go, so it fits that it's the one circumstance she would use her racial feat.
    There's also the whole "Sam's a troll" element, of course, but at least there's a story reason as well.

  • @jelleluyten5017
    @jelleluyten5017 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "It's mine, it's mine... it's mine!" Best goblin roleplay i ever seen

  • @jackdog06
    @jackdog06 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    With how close we are to the end of the campaign this may well end up being the *only* use of halfling luck

  • @antonjoj212
    @antonjoj212 3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    I loved Sam's play in this. I thought everyone else were a bit too metagamy, focusing way to deep on stuff that usually wouldn't have bothered them in character, had they not known it ooc.

    • @carrotmaster688
      @carrotmaster688 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Well to be fair, having a magic dagger and not having it appraised eventhough its easy is a bit sus. Enough to spark the initial intrigue, after that they do kinda jump to the finish line in terms of just how suspisious they are. but i feel like it wouldve been a bit boring for them to go 'why are you acting weird' for like 5 minutes

    • @evidicus
      @evidicus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Welcome to Critical Role. Aside from Sam, they metagame constantly. Hell, Sam won’t stoop to doing it even if it’ll save his character’s life.

    • @jormungandr147
      @jormungandr147 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@evidicus sam? Metagaming pigeon sam are you sure about that

    • @valentino42
      @valentino42 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@jormungandr147 usually the “meta-gaming pigeon” is Sam jokingly reminding a player of something that their character would probably remember but the player has forgotten. The others (some more than others) have a real bad habit of substituting player knowledge for character knowledge.

    • @jormungandr147
      @jormungandr147 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@valentino42 more then a few times they've all done it both when the character would have remembered and when they wouldn't have sam does it just as much as the rest of them

  • @petrusspinelli6661
    @petrusspinelli6661 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    this
    this is why Sam is my favourite cast member
    i love this man so much

  • @rafaelcalmon2858
    @rafaelcalmon2858 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I'm kinda of baffled by people not getting the fact that the dagger is inducing Veth to act against letting go of it. The wisdom saving throw should have given it away.
    And trust me, items that force your character to act in a certain way aren't uncommon at all in D&D. We just had one in our campaign where, in order, the character attuned to the item, made a wisdom saving throw, failed, waited for everyone to go to sleep, left the house, gave the item to some poor soul meant to be its next victim, came back, went to bed, then woke up without any memory since the moment they attuned to it. *Trust me, if you grab something and the DM says "wisdom saving throw", expect to have to play your character a "little" different for a while.*

  • @sanddoom2089
    @sanddoom2089 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    When I saw the title I thought it said Vax’s dagger identitied. I was like oh crap how did one of Vax’s daggers end up here. Damn my minor reading disability for getting me excited.

  • @waywardwriter2953
    @waywardwriter2953 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Whenever I played my Halfling and I rerolled ones, for some reason, a good chunk of the time it would become a 20. Halfling Luck and the Lucky Feat is a little crazy sometimes.

  • @jeffreyquick4871
    @jeffreyquick4871 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My precious.

  • @Ascisana
    @Ascisana ปีที่แล้ว

    Man this is so funny on vod just realised how much I miss out with the podcast version :(

  • @AndOnliCar
    @AndOnliCar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love how not even sam knew what was going on 4:30

  • @scotthumphreys4157
    @scotthumphreys4157 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My favorite moment from this campaign. Sam is great! :)

  • @johncmousley
    @johncmousley 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    legendary reroll, what a ballsy move from Sam

  • @themadhatter6554
    @themadhatter6554 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm getting some graven edge simulations here 🤣

  • @lucashayes346
    @lucashayes346 ปีที่แล้ว

    This campaign had everything, I love it so much

  • @Zetheseus
    @Zetheseus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    for a second, thought laura was wearing PB's sweater from the vampire part of adventure time

  • @gabiamberp4829
    @gabiamberp4829 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Immediate Cleric panic.

  • @zachfleming7369
    @zachfleming7369 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    With the amount of times they use command on each other, successful or not, it might be time to reevaluate friendships

  • @koseorhun
    @koseorhun ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey the background music is from Pillars of Eternity 2 Deadfire! Neat!

  • @BaldursPicketFence
    @BaldursPicketFence 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    And you attuned to this thing?
    Uh-huh!

  • @TheSpencermacdougall
    @TheSpencermacdougall 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I watched this live. I don't think my neighbors were very pleased by the shouting after 11pm. But I don't give a F. this was awesome.

  • @hfar_in_the_sky
    @hfar_in_the_sky ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The fact that a weapon obtained from Avantika is actually cursed is beyond on brand for that lady

  • @samstrohmyer1010
    @samstrohmyer1010 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Travis whispering “the ring of fire protection” lol

  • @Ash-cw7wl
    @Ash-cw7wl ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Yasha takes Veth's dagger at 3:35 and Fearne takes FCG's changbringer coin in campaign 3. Sam doesn't like Ashley stealing from him

  • @Kermie_Frogman
    @Kermie_Frogman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "It's mine..."

  • @Thisone109
    @Thisone109 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He pulled a grog

  • @alpharius5178
    @alpharius5178 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sam’s commitment is legendary!

  • @johnthaxton9235
    @johnthaxton9235 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    People complaining about spoiler in the title. Doesnt really spoil much if ya don't watch it and why would ya watch a highlights clip if ya haven't already watched the episode.

    • @High-LordHarza
      @High-LordHarza 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Because youtube recommends stuff, and you can't change what it recommends. If you've watched the previous episode's YT upload, or any other highlights, guess what might show up in your recommended even if you haven't watched the latest episode, which the title spoils? If it didn't read "I can reroll 1s" it'd be fine.

    • @arthaiser
      @arthaiser 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This thing can perfectly appear on recommended. Videos like these appear on sunday to me. And i cant even watch the episode until monday. Everything on that title spoils quite a bit.

    • @johnthaxton9235
      @johnthaxton9235 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And us just have to cluck it.

    • @jacobhumphrey3535
      @jacobhumphrey3535 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I had a recommendation when I was just getting into campaign 2 for the first time. I was on, like, episode 10, and was super excited. Then a highlight video got recommended in my main feed entitled "Molly's Death C2 E26". So yeah, I totally get the spoilers complaints. I had the biggest moment of the early campaign spoiled for me because of the TH-cam algorithm and someone's video title.

    • @EstebanBrenesV
      @EstebanBrenesV 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@High-LordHarza But seriously though dont you have to actually watch the thumbnail first before reading the title? and then click on the video to actually confirm it is a spoiler? Cause honestly I have like hundreds of videos in my recommended and if I see a CR thumbnail on a weekendI dont even have to read I just know is from last thursday, also "dagger identified" ok that means thy probably tried "I can roll 1s" You can assume that is the identificationbut actually it is not?? Saying directly what the curse does would be a spoiler but even then withput context is not a spoiler, yet what people call that is the urge to get some not contextualized information be contextualized and for such a thing you find people On the actual video saying they got spoiled, if I dont want to get spoiled (bunch of actual examples MHA, several series etc...) I just read FINALE in the title and even if the title says the death of.... I JUST DONT CLICK ON IT, yes the title told me something is going to happen, is the finale so SOMETHING has to happenI just dont actually go by the urge and spoil myself

  • @Klespyrian
    @Klespyrian 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't know anyone else that can make me full-belly laugh as consistently as Sam Riegel.

  • @ironrose6
    @ironrose6 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I think it's hilarious and 100% in line with both player and character motivations for Veth to do everything she can to hold onto her cursed dagger. This is how cursed items work, folks. I'm sorry if you're used to a world where consequences don't exist, but I applaud the hell out of Sam for playing Veth this way considering the item is cursed. Excellent role playing, excellent entertainment, excellent reveal.

  • @709mash
    @709mash 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Of course this was the one time he actually used hallfling luck lol.

  • @The_Yukki
    @The_Yukki 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dagger was identified before, thing with Identify is that it doesn't reveal curses

  • @AnatoDragonshard
    @AnatoDragonshard 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    When I saw this I thought maybe it was sentient.

  • @SiNFPVGUAM
    @SiNFPVGUAM ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you Sam and friends for making this an amazing exchange.🤭😂🤣😂🤣😂

  • @turma8eac
    @turma8eac 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Of course it came from the big snek in the ocean

  • @Furyandyy
    @Furyandyy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sam rerolling killed me

  • @MidnightClad8
    @MidnightClad8 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I blame CP1 and the Craven Edge incident for taking away the sheer brilliance it would have been if Veth just dropped mid fight from like a healing word or something. The cast didn’t give a shit about meta gaming they all collectively went “nah not going through this bullshit again” lmao

  • @twinstarstudios
    @twinstarstudios 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Imagine if he used that freaking glue to keep it

  • @TieflingKumasi
    @TieflingKumasi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The first 30 seconds didn’t even set off Laura’s dirty mind?
    “I don’t like people stealing from me” says the former goblin who used to steal from people

  • @ethanpoints8735
    @ethanpoints8735 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Travis whispers..."its a ring of fire resistance. " Laura just tragically ignores him. Travis dies inside.

  • @Graypaws
    @Graypaws 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wheaton needs that reroll 1s ability bad.

  • @MasterGibz
    @MasterGibz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of these day someone will tell Laura command has to be one word. One day

  • @Acebender
    @Acebender 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "But! I can reroll ones"
    **Angry yelling**

  • @Blasted2Oblivion
    @Blasted2Oblivion 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do we have to have Yasha restrain you?
    As if she could.
    Said the tiniest person about Ms. Strengthofthegods.

  • @WardNightstone
    @WardNightstone 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    that dagger is NASTY and i'm sure some DM's will use it the trick is finding the right player to give it to

    • @Blasted2Oblivion
      @Blasted2Oblivion 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It may be nasty but it has nothing on the bag of devouring. It acts like a normal bag of holding until it randomly decides to eat whoeve sticks their hand in to grab something. A truly evil item I just learned about recently.

  • @shreknet
    @shreknet 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I miss these kids

  • @3dagalathor
    @3dagalathor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    seem the Meatman , i mean Shortlan has been busy uploading videos lately.

    • @Shortlan
      @Shortlan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ..thank you?

  • @DocAcher
    @DocAcher 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was laughing so hard through this, I was actually in tears 😹😹😹

  • @abishek98xxx
    @abishek98xxx 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    May be a bit late on this but I'm surprised I dont see anyone talking about how Laura interfered too many times when Ashleys character was having a moment with Sam's. Esp when she just chimes in with the greater restoration, you can see Ashleys face visibly in disdain.

  • @emoAnarchist
    @emoAnarchist ปีที่แล้ว

    sam loves the chaos of failing.
    it just so happens that in this case, failure meant succeeding the save

  • @Questfinder1
    @Questfinder1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ok just to let y'all in to the know. The ruby hilted dagger is cursed, it originally came from Shadar Logoth in wheel of time series. And the entire 2nd campaign is telling the story of EotW. You have to listen closely to catch every reference and side glance. Helps to watch episode 1 and listen to how they describe what they did in their 0 game. And who they are introduced with is key. The only one who came different was yasha and thats because she didnt get a zero session.

  • @brittanyanderson97
    @brittanyanderson97 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I thought Caleb cast identify on the dagger when they got it?

    • @BW-fe8dq
      @BW-fe8dq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Hey, he did but identify generally (DM's discretion) doesn't identify curses. Legend lore does the best job, besides a wish spell, at learning enough to figure out its cursed. Usually the DM (Matt did this) will give a pretty detailed description of the cursed object in a way that should make you question it.

    • @brittanyanderson97
      @brittanyanderson97 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BW-fe8dq that’s what I thought might have happened lol

    • @elbruces
      @elbruces 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, Matt did say there was something wonky about it, but Sam didn't care.

    • @gamester512
      @gamester512 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Identify (a 1st level spell) usually can't identify that an item is cursed. The Legend Lore (5th level) spell, however, *can* identify cursed items. I could see it as being a case where Caleb's first attempt to identify it informed him of what the dagger could do but not that it was cursed because his skill as a wizard wasn't as good as it is now, so a second attempt to identify the dagger revealed to him that it was cursed.
      The good thing is Caduceus' Insight check alerted him that something was "off" with Veth, and that led to the entire party placing more scrutiny on what otherwise may have been overlooked. Even more-so that it drew attention from both of the party's Clerics who could remove the effects of the dagger's curse on Veth via Greater Restoration, at which point Veth herself may have known enough about the dagger to simply tell the rest of the party (and to now want to stay very far away from that dagger).

  • @thegeneralmitch
    @thegeneralmitch 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I can imagine Veth initially dropping the blade, only to air juggle it as Sam re rolls the natural 1, ultimately half throwing it over to Jesters feet. 😂

  • @seegurkekiller
    @seegurkekiller 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That is just prime Sam Riegel use of game mechanics.

  • @TheOppiter
    @TheOppiter 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    the biggest quesion is, why is everone ELSE so concerned about this dagger lol

  • @jorgef005
    @jorgef005 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    "I can reroll 1"

  • @JSchroederee
    @JSchroederee 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How many hours have I listened to think Veth was Beth? 😳

  • @ShellySummers
    @ShellySummers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Is the long games of sam

  • @fatgumthegoat
    @fatgumthegoat ปีที่แล้ว

    I have to say this: they identified the dagger the moment they got it and matt just didn't mention the curse