Since you are always honest, I will do the same. I bought my first handpan in China with no support. It was very cheap. But accidents happens and my handpan was dropped on the ding. After that the ding was out of tune. I tried contacting some local tuners here in Holland, but, they all refused to tune it. After that I made a tool and after three days I got the right note. I play almost every day to get better at playing the pan. This handpan was only to find out if it was something for me. At the moment I am a member from masterthehandpan but i was looking for another handpan. I am not a good player but I wanted a better handpan. I have checked a lot of handpanbuilders, but I did not wanted a local builder because they did not want to help me with my chinese handpan. After a long search I found out that you and Rosie have a fantastic handpan from Mumi & Ale. I am one of your (cheap) patreons, and I saw you and Rosie in Milan. So, now I ordered my first good handpan from Mumi & Ale. I thank you for your friendly and kind advice, and I wish you all the best.
Wow! Impressive that you managed to get it back in tune on your own. I suppose if it's alright way out, and it's a cheap pan, you've nothing to lose in giving it a go! I've found that the vast majority of makers won't retune Chinese imports because it tends not to be worth anyone's time or money. Glad you went with Elaia, you're gonna love it!!
Tnx for your reply, Hennew. I'm also from Holland and I wondered where you bought that handpan in China. See a lot of them on AliExpress but am not sure to where to buy my first one from.
myself being a Master Guitar builder with over 30 years of building, the comment of ((anything under $1,000 is not going to be good))... I started building guitars because I started with such chap guitars, and had no money, so I had to modify , fix and eventually build a neck from scratch. (the neck is the difficult part compared to the body).... the cost of the sheet metal to build a handpan is not expensive whatsoever. Some steel will work harden, some needs heat and quench, and you can also use a chemical like "cherry red" to case harden metal that normally wont harden With a large manufacturing operation, and money to tool up, handpan drums can be made very cheap. buy the right steel (that's a matter of knowing what to buy, NOT the cost).. dies used on 20 ton presses can form the raw starting point. the cost will be in the talented metal worker and the hours of hand & ear labor... even that can be broken up into production to the point where only a few master tuners are needed to first , help teach the craftsmen up stream where attention is needed, then to put the set up and intonation.. using a scope to reach an "exact" frequency is only part of making perfection. Perfect tuning is often achieved by tuning certain notes a few cents sharp or flat so when played with x y or z, it, "sounds" right. I think I'll get a chinese pan, learn to play a bit, LET MY NEPHEWS 5 AND 13 YEARS OLD HAVE FUN, , then learn to adjust the tune and the sympathetic over and under tones. maybe I'll show people , instead of hoarding the knowledge and trying to create a mystique surrounding the craft.. I honestly laugh when I see these pan builders treated like there Gandalf the wizard. let's see these guys build a saxophone or a oboe .. LOL, lets see them build the TOOLING to build a portion of a sax. HEY PEOPLE, GO AHEAD AND BUY WHAT YOU CAN AFFORD. TRUTH IS, A "EDDIE VAN HALEN " CAN PICK UP A JUNK GUITAR AND SOUND LIKE EDDIE VAN HALEN.. WHEN YOU HAVE TALENT BEYOND YOUR TOOL, YOU WILL KNOW............ MUSIC COMES FROM WITHIN THE HUMAN, NOT FROM THE POCKET BOOK.........
Hi most amazing Amy, I bought what a poor man could from amazon after waiting while saving my pennies. My pan doesn't sustain as well as a too expensive for me to buy and yet I'm happy with it while ptacticing.. I admire you and and you.
I just spent money on an Amazon D Kurd pan hoping that I’ll get enough out of it to determine if I can develop dexterity and enjoyment out of it for the money, then spend the money on something that will last if I find some success.
Amy….I’ve been in the handpan world for almost 18 years - 2006 was the first time I heard one, and was lucky to get a PANArt instrument before everything changed. Excellent video on how to buy a handpan. I think developing a relationship with a builder is key. I was lucky enough to get to know Colin Foulke of Xenith handpans and Kyle Cox of Pantheon Steel. Just so you know, I recently just bought a D Kurd from Meridian so I could better follow the lessons you teach online, and I am a member of master the handpan with the two Davids. Just because I’ve been around the handpan scene for awhile doesn’t mean I’m an expert at playing. I can always learn! =] I volunteer in a hospital playing therapeutic music with harp, and have brought my ESaybe (also Meridian) in, and have been well-received. I am more of a meditative player. Love your videos….you are an EXcellent teacher!
Great info Amy. This is the only video I have seen online that seems to explain everything all in one place in an understandable and unbiased way. Anyone starting out would greatly benefit from watching this, and save a LOT of time. 😁
Awesome and thorough video. I bought a cheaper handpan form a drop shipping type company after hearing the instrument and not knowing much about it. I loved the videos of two handpan players on youtube and figured that this would be an amazing instrument for my sound healing sessions and songwriting. For some reason the algorithm never helped me discover the instructional videos I searched for until after deciding to just purchase it. The 9 note D minor that it labels itself as in the product description doesn’t seem to match any of the common tuning for handpans that I have researched. Mine has a G3 ding, D4, bE4, F4, G4, A4, bB4, C5, D5. I have since learned to just play it intuitively but it is almost impossible to play along with instructional videos. I don’t anticipate ever playing in groups or handpan sessions but do still hope to learn more on how to improve. I will hopefully one day be able to afford a quality instrument directly from a maker that fits my specific needs. For now this will have to do. It is very hard to fork out a $1000 plus on an instrument you aren’t sure you will really connect with playing but I do agree with your point. If you get one that is out of tune it would truly be discouraging to pursue playing it. Even the cheaper ones aren’t cheap if you have little money.
It’s been years that I wanted one, but couldn’t afford the steep price. so as a beginner, I got one from Temu for 130 bucks And if I really click on the instrument, I’ll be saving money afterwards to buy a clean version from good maker
What a wonderful and helpful video for anyone who wants to purchase their own handpan! I bought my handpan nearly a year ago and I made the effort to travel and listen to a few instruments. But I soon realised that I could only really choose the perfect instrument when playing it with my own hands instead of just listening to somebody else play it. So what helped me a lot was to first of all rent a handpan for a few weeks and then decide what I want.
Duncan at Meridian just helped me get a 10 note D-Kurd - it was my trust in many of your videos 🥰and in you as a very honest and transparent person. Clearly you do what you do as a passion and as an act of service to others. I relate to that. I live in the USA and was really nervous about ordering an other offshore pan, when there are great local makers here but they want on avg 300-600 more. This one video and Duncan at Meridian made all the difference for me. I ordered a cheaper but higher end AS TEAMAN and one of the notes (2) suppose to be a B#3 was one key off A#3 and I returned it frustrated and half expecting it. I was researching for weeks for a "real" quality pan. It came down to Saraz here in the USA and Meridian. Duncan as a person made the difference as he kept answering my zillion questions and Mark was helpful too but not as available for answers, I am sure he will answer, but I had money in hand and needed to go left or right. My gut and trust in your videos plus Duncan made me feel like this was the right choice and pan for me. Thank you again! (Girl you should get a small kick back) I told Duncan about you so go collect your free lunch or something. LOL 😁 I wish you many blessings in your life, and much kindness to come your way Amy!
Thank you for this brilliant video! Which is the first extended handpan with the base notes? And which is the builder? I love your tutorials! Thank you for sharing it with us!!!
I just bought my first handpan from Temu for $187. It came with a beautiful sturdy case. I'm assuming that was a mistake??? I play it and it sounds fine. 🤷🏽♀️
I think i bought the same! The blue one right? I think it doesnt sound that bad, but im a totall beginner. When i hear other videos i think its aftually not in tune. But he, it gets me started untill i get a better one
I bought one on temu these things suck! U need mallets to play them or u can't hear it. A good hand pan should never be used with mallets. But I wanted to check them out before spending the money on a good one. My 19month old plays this one. We will get a good one someday
There are no mistakes. If it sounds fine to you that’s all that matters. I ordered one from Temu also-I only ordered it because there was a video and I was happy with the sound. Happy playing!
Beautifully descriptive video. TBH I’ve never taken the plunge to buy a proper handpan and have used smaller ones. Surely gives me more insight into buying a professionally built instrument ❤🙏🤗✨
Wow. Wish i had seen this video first! Thank you for this information! Moving forward, going to "invest" my time and money into a musician's instrument! Thank you again for your expert advice!❤🙏🏿☯️
Hello Amy, first of all, you play very well and I thank you for the information and comparison you make, it is very helpful. I would really like to be able to buy the handpan that you use at minute 26:28 extended handpan, what brand is it? and where could I purchase it? I think it is a very good option to be able to have greater tonal possibilities without having to buy two or more handpans. Thank you.
Hey Amy, thanks for all the advice! Could you shine a light on the extension of the D Kurd - would you rather have an A2 or a Bb2 as the lowest? I'm on my way to A2 thinking it would be more useful for singing along - but I'd love to hear your opinion! Always grateful for your musical blessings, cheers from Brazil! 🙌🏽
thanks Amy, listening to all your videos, its so interesting. I am coming from classical music but fascinated by the sound of handpans. Particularly like the sound of the one in major you played around 25". So much to consider before buying and your videos help a lot, thanks again!
Nice info thank you. I could not make out the name of the maker of the first handpan you showed from the UK ? I would like to see their site, Thank you again
I’m just learning about hand pans & this presentation was extremely informative- thank you ! Just out of interest what is the approximate cost of the extended Dm Kurd you demonstrated? I’m a professional pianist and I think I would benefit from the extra notes.
Appreciating your videos! Found this one ex pos facto, I took a chance and purchased a chinese made pan just to test the waters, so far so good, but I am much more informed after watching this video (: Also appreciate your covering of the tuning calibration issue, ie 440 vx 432, lots of misinformation on that topic, I always like to point out the differences between equal tempered tuning and just intonation "natural tuning". Knowing that handpan makers will custom make instruments for customers, I hope my next handpan will be tuned according to J.I. (; Cheers!
So far in the USA Terence Jay, and David Beery are my top two of who im looking at to purchase a hand pan from. Im on east coast they are on west. I did find a builder on the east coast with cheaper pans. But i like these guys best so far.
Yeeeaahh good choices, lots of excellent makers in the US! East coast favourites of mine are Veritas Sound Sculptures and Spirit Handpans. So many options!
ok, so. what sparked my interest in this was two main things: unique sound and portability. i was hoping to find an inexpensive way to make music anywhere i go that wasnt percussion (cajon, kashaka, etc.) and more melodic. a handpan worth having just isn't in my budget and won't be for many many months, I've learned, so maybe you have recommendations for entirely different instruments that fit what I'm trying to find? something portable, melodic rather than percussive, and considerably more affordable. things I've tried and didn't jive with: guitar, harmonica, recorder (might retry if you can think of ones less piercing than the ones we all had in grade school)
@AmyNaylorMusic thank you very much for your replies and recommendations :) I've been browsing your tutorials, so I think I'll be back for those when I finally am able to get a decent handpan.
Thanks for this Amy! I'm wondering, did you actually learn which notes are on the soundfields? How do you make sure you don't get a 'bad combination' while jamming? I do this based on practise/hearing, but that makes it hard not to play the same combinations all the time. Wonder if it gives more freedom if you know the music theory behind it.
I do try to learn the notes, or at least the chord shapes, by drawing out diagrams when I first get the instrument. But until very recently when I started teaching, I also was only figuring it out by ear. I had years of fun with it that way too
thank you, amy! Was really helpful to watch your video! It’s been almost one year that I first came in contact with the handpan and the desire to learn it grows stronger but financially I am a bit restricted so I will buy second hand and check really well before buying. 🤗🤗💚
Amy thank you for all of your knowledge! I am diving into the world of hand pans and you have really given me a great starting point! I’ll be checking out your other tutorials! Thanks again!
Thanks for the information and video. Thumb up from myself :) Could you pls share your favourite workshops (places where I can try and purchase ones) in UK and EU?
Hello Amy and felow handpan pkayers / budding players. I have a question, I recently bought myself an 11 note sono dimano instrument but it ha come to my attention that 11 note field are quite unusual.... did I buy a lemon as mot tutorials are demonstrated on 9 note instruments.... Thanks in advance for any advice.
Thanks a lot. In Denmark it seems only Mr. Pans and Sela are really available. Lots of folk prefer Mr. Pans, which is more expensive, but I find the sound more dull than the Sela's brightness. Any thoughts on that? Another reason Sela is cheaper that I haven't discovered yet? I'm looking for a stainlees pan. Thanks in advantage.
You can play any song in any key you like. G minor, D minor, it doesn't matter as long as the range fits with your voice. Check the description for names of brands I recommend
@@AmyNaylorMusic Thanks, I asked Merdian for a quote on a G minor extended. I have a friends Jewish wedding in 6 months and I want Hava Neglia as best I can
Do you have any thoughts on Harper's Handpans? Recently ordered a custom D Kurd from him. Seems like a genuine, sincere guy and his handpans seem great, and I just wanted to know if you're familiar with his handpans or not! And if so, what do you think of them :)
What’s up Amy. Love your content for beginners. Ive finally made the decision to buy the Sela Phoenix steel 10 note Handpan in D Kurd with the Bb note. In some strange way I have confidence I can get a Handpan with 4 notes on the bottom. What would you recommend? I’m mainly into keys/synths, electronic guitars, now dipping into a bit of ukulele. Let’s just say I’ve delved into other instruments in my life.
23:21 lol you say that while referring to a rav being more budget friendly?? I just looked at your link to them and they are $1000 and up up and up lol does this imply that other handpans are thousands more?
Thank you so much for doing this video. I am extremely new to handpans. If I could only afford one handpan, and willing to spend what it will cost me, what handpan, scale and manufacturer would you suggest? And also The very best budget conscious?
Great video, thank you! One question regarding the handpan with extended bottom notes - is there some logic for choosing a ding-type field versus a regular tone field? Here you have three low notes but only one is a ding. In my handlap I have two dings at the bottom and that feels pretty nice, wondering if I could get four on the bottom actually:D
Mmm I'm not exactly sure, but any time I've asked for bottom low notes, I've left it to maker's choice. I think "innies" are easier than "outies" depending on context, but I might be totally wrong!
Same here… After extensive research of the handpans and the different sounds (hence me watching this video, still listening and learning), I decided I like the sound of the D Kurd handpans and wanted to get one for my 58th birthday June 2024! I ordered a 22 in D Kurd 10 note after listening to a review video submitted by a recent purchaser (Wykeitha Benton). It’s branded Pickmay and the same is inscribed on it. I love how hers sounds, especially with a water fountain flowing gently in the background. I ordered that one and I love it, been playing it everyday since I got it. I paid $259usd + tax, it’s actually on sale for $229 as of the date of this post, 7/5/24. No, I am not paid by anyone for my glowing reviews, lol. I really really really like (ok love) my handpan from China. Maybe one day I’ll be able to afford a regular price handpan. I’m staying in my land handpan price-wise until that day comes!
So Pure's music website is most likely not fully legit. Sounds great but definitely the handpan I play at my crystal shop whenever I go in sounds heavenly
The biggest question i have regarding handpans is probably stemming somewhere in- what is the origin story of the handpan, question. Idk the origins of handpans, who, therefore, based on historical facts are the original inventors and builders of the handpan, leading to then who are the oldest long lived, OG, masters most experienced based on knowledge passed down including experimental failures and sucesses would be part of their story, so many of the modern day so called experimental handpan builders may be repeating old already played out overcome mistakes or they know the successful parts of that history part that has been forgetting or not enough awareness online for example.. but out of it at least enough knowledge to come across and pass as legit pioneers in a certain direction regarding genuine experimental handpans but really arent the first so cant really claim to be worthy of the price they put on an already done tried and tested experiments that anyone ljke me who knows not the history could very easily be conned into thinking this is a cutting edge new craft handpan, but it more like "its edge is cutting my hand" rough, while theyre laughing all the way to go look at their profit account balance.
The first handpan was called a Hang, created by the company Panart in Switzerland some time around the year 2000. Based heavily on the steelpan from Trinidad and Tobago which only came around in the late 30s early 40s. As well as some influence from the Indian ghatam (a clay drum) and the gongs of Indonesian gamelan. The handpan however is quite different from the steelpan in that it has two shells glued together creating a Helmholtz resonator and making it a whole different beast to work with the sound (which I don't know enough about to confidently write more). So it's still a very new craft, and I would argue that current makers are all very much pioneers in their own way. Many of the best only having been building for 10 years or less! One of the most exciting things for me, is that right now both handpan players and makers are really relying on each other to challenge each other in what they can play and create in this very fresh field in music 😍
@AmyNaylorMusic good answer thanks for that! I was swaying more towards an oriental origin, because I don't know any better. Gongs, chimes, wind and resonant percussive materials and their properties used in instruments. They have been archaeologically dated back thousands of years, and I was thinking what it was a discovery in this last century that was taken from actual artifacts reacreations of or something that was discovered in ancient texts and designs- that to me has more of a ring to it (pun totally intended) rediscovered lost inventions, or revitalised old inventions. We as a species are a creative bunch! It's not hard to picture a likely very rough image of 1000 years ago- more time on one's hands, got an idea I got from the idea of mixing the ideas of how a gong and wind chimes work. And eureka! A handpan.. probably out of tune yes! but least I've got 999 years to get it right so I can sell it from the Amazon to amazon and make a fortune for my tribes collective prosperity... no human sacrifices this winter solstice!! Yay.
Here on argentina we have a lot of luthiers who create hand oand cheap and very good. Buy if i can i wsnt to buy one european or else. Mi hand pant is very good. But nit professional vecayse they nit have a kot of noted 😂
A handpan with piezo pickups, or bag pipes, maybe and external bag that can change the internal pressure to change the pitch, its essentially like any percussive instrument- velocity of impact x oscillation of surface area ÷ shape and size² of the impact area. An accordian comes to mine, a portable wind instrument with keys probably seemed impossible at the time. A mechanical synchronised tremolo system on a handpan, you've got me thinking... flat thinner flexible areas on the main surface area next to the notes maybe? Like a bottle top, before you break the vacuum seal it is depressed, but you can vacuum seal a handpan it wouldn't sound out internally air wouldn't exist, so it'd have to be atmospheric pressure (open). Sound holes that allow more air or less air to travel . Or does the sound on a handpan like 90% material vibration & 10% acoustic and therefore air movement?
I bought one from Amazon (a 22 in. 10 Note D Kurd Stainless Steel handpan) for my 58th birthday day June 2024, and I Love it! Sounds the same as the ones in the D Kurd handpan tutorial videos, at least to me a beginner it does. I’ve been playing it everyday since I got it! I’ve even experimented with tiny earth magnets on it…I have a tongue drum (from Amazon as well) and read in a review where you can use earth magnets to change the note. I ordered a set of little magnets ranging in size from small to tiny (from Amazon s as well)…it’s Totally true!!! I decided to test them on my handpan just yesterday (7/4/24) and guess what? The note changed!!! I use several free tuner apps, yes, I felt like I had a whole adventure! In Music Land! Good Luck to You and your Handpan! I hope you two become great friends… 👍🏾
Yes and no one give you good names because a good tunable pan is 3-5k less than that tuning is a shit show. You have to be a maker to be a good tuner... So buy what you can learn and if you stick with it ... Upgrade... Just helpful enough to almost watch... Got money great not...naught... Thanks.
Since you are always honest, I will do the same. I bought my first handpan in China with no support. It was very cheap. But accidents happens and my handpan was dropped on the ding. After that the ding was out of tune. I tried contacting some local tuners here in Holland, but, they all refused to tune it. After that I made a tool and after three days I got the right note. I play almost every day to get better at playing the pan. This handpan was only to find out if it was something for me. At the moment I am a member from masterthehandpan but i was looking for another handpan. I am not a good player but I wanted a better handpan. I have checked a lot of handpanbuilders, but I did not wanted a local builder because they did not want to help me with my chinese handpan. After a long search I found out that you and Rosie have a fantastic handpan from Mumi & Ale. I am one of your (cheap) patreons, and I saw you and Rosie in Milan. So, now I ordered my first good handpan from Mumi & Ale. I thank you for your friendly and kind advice, and I wish you all the best.
Wow! Impressive that you managed to get it back in tune on your own. I suppose if it's alright way out, and it's a cheap pan, you've nothing to lose in giving it a go!
I've found that the vast majority of makers won't retune Chinese imports because it tends not to be worth anyone's time or money.
Glad you went with Elaia, you're gonna love it!!
Where did you buy it in China
this is an example that you learn by doing, and that everyone start different. i still wonder why handpan builders community would not want to help?
Kudos to you for tuning it yourself! Super cool :)
Tnx for your reply, Hennew. I'm also from Holland and I wondered where you bought that handpan in China. See a lot of them on AliExpress but am not sure to where to buy my first one from.
Quality over Quantity should always be the rule of thumb for anything you buy!😊
myself being a Master Guitar builder with over 30 years of building, the comment of ((anything under $1,000 is not going to be good))... I started building guitars because I started with such chap guitars, and had no money, so I had to modify , fix and eventually build a neck from scratch. (the neck is the difficult part compared to the body)....
the cost of the sheet metal to build a handpan is not expensive whatsoever. Some steel will work harden, some needs heat and quench, and you can also use a chemical like "cherry red" to case harden metal that normally wont harden
With a large manufacturing operation, and money to tool up, handpan drums can be made very cheap. buy the right steel (that's a matter of knowing what to buy, NOT the cost).. dies used on 20 ton presses can form the raw starting point. the cost will be in the talented metal worker and the hours of hand & ear labor... even that can be broken up into production to the point where only a few master tuners are needed to first , help teach the craftsmen up stream where attention is needed, then to put the set up and intonation.. using a scope to reach an "exact" frequency is only part of making perfection. Perfect tuning is often achieved by tuning certain notes a few cents sharp or flat so when played with x y or z, it, "sounds" right.
I think I'll get a chinese pan, learn to play a bit, LET MY NEPHEWS 5 AND 13 YEARS OLD HAVE FUN, , then learn to adjust the tune and the sympathetic over and under tones.
maybe I'll show people , instead of hoarding the knowledge and trying to create a mystique surrounding the craft.. I honestly laugh when I see these pan builders treated like there Gandalf the wizard. let's see these guys build a saxophone or a oboe .. LOL, lets see them build the TOOLING to build a portion of a sax.
HEY PEOPLE, GO AHEAD AND BUY WHAT YOU CAN AFFORD. TRUTH IS, A "EDDIE VAN HALEN " CAN PICK UP A JUNK GUITAR AND SOUND LIKE EDDIE VAN HALEN.. WHEN YOU HAVE TALENT BEYOND YOUR TOOL, YOU WILL KNOW............ MUSIC COMES FROM WITHIN THE HUMAN, NOT FROM THE POCKET BOOK.........
Agree!
Love this, appreciate your comment JayDee. xx
Thanks for the great advice once again! Made me really rethink my journey looking into which handpans would suit me.
bought a handpan for 300 bucks off amazon, using it to practice and will buy an authentic one as soon as im comfortable with playing
Hi most amazing Amy, I bought what a poor man could from amazon after waiting while saving my pennies. My pan doesn't sustain as well as a too expensive for me to buy and yet I'm happy with it while ptacticing.. I admire you and and you.
I just spent money on an Amazon D Kurd pan hoping that I’ll get enough out of it to determine if I can develop dexterity and enjoyment out of it for the money, then spend the money on something that will last if I find some success.
Thank You Amy for explaining what low and 2 mean. ❤
Amy….I’ve been in the handpan world for almost 18 years - 2006 was the first time I heard one, and was lucky to get a PANArt instrument before everything changed. Excellent video on how to buy a handpan. I think developing a relationship with a builder is key. I was lucky enough to get to know Colin Foulke of Xenith handpans and Kyle Cox of Pantheon Steel. Just so you know, I recently just bought a D Kurd from Meridian so I could better follow the lessons you teach online, and I am a member of master the handpan with the two Davids. Just because I’ve been around the handpan scene for awhile doesn’t mean I’m an expert at playing. I can always learn! =] I volunteer in a hospital playing therapeutic music with harp, and have brought my ESaybe (also Meridian) in, and have been well-received. I am more of a meditative player. Love your videos….you are an EXcellent teacher!
Great info Amy. This is the only video I have seen online that seems to explain everything all in one place in an understandable and unbiased way. Anyone starting out would greatly benefit from watching this, and save a LOT of time. 😁
I love your passion for handpans and your explanation is so good 😊
Awesome and thorough video. I bought a cheaper handpan form a drop shipping type company after hearing the instrument and not knowing much about it. I loved the videos of two handpan players on youtube and figured that this would be an amazing instrument for my sound healing sessions and songwriting. For some reason the algorithm never helped me discover the instructional videos I searched for until after deciding to just purchase it. The 9 note D minor that it labels itself as in the product description doesn’t seem to match any of the common tuning for handpans that I have researched. Mine has a G3 ding, D4, bE4, F4, G4, A4, bB4, C5, D5. I have since learned to just play it intuitively but it is almost impossible to play along with instructional videos.
I don’t anticipate ever playing in groups or handpan sessions but do still hope to learn more on how to improve. I will hopefully one day be able to afford a quality instrument directly from a maker that fits my specific needs. For now this will have to do. It is very hard to fork out a $1000 plus on an instrument you aren’t sure you will really connect with playing but I do agree with your point. If you get one that is out of tune it would truly be discouraging to pursue playing it. Even the cheaper ones aren’t cheap if you have little money.
It’s been years that I wanted one, but couldn’t afford the steep price. so as a beginner, I got one from Temu for 130 bucks And if I really click on the instrument, I’ll be saving money afterwards to buy a clean version from good maker
What a wonderful and helpful video for anyone who wants to purchase their own handpan! I bought my handpan nearly a year ago and I made the effort to travel and listen to a few instruments. But I soon realised that I could only really choose the perfect instrument when playing it with my own hands instead of just listening to somebody else play it. So what helped me a lot was to first of all rent a handpan for a few weeks and then decide what I want.
So cool that more handpan builders are making rental possible!
Very well explained. Great teacher and great vibes!
Duncan at Meridian just helped me get a 10 note D-Kurd - it was my trust in many of your videos 🥰and in you as a very honest and transparent person. Clearly you do what you do as a passion and as an act of service to others. I relate to that. I live in the USA and was really nervous about ordering an other offshore pan, when there are great local makers here but they want on avg 300-600 more. This one video and Duncan at Meridian made all the difference for me. I ordered a cheaper but higher end AS TEAMAN and one of the notes (2) suppose to be a B#3 was one key off A#3 and I returned it frustrated and half expecting it. I was researching for weeks for a "real" quality pan. It came down to Saraz here in the USA and Meridian. Duncan as a person made the difference as he kept answering my zillion questions and Mark was helpful too but not as available for answers, I am sure he will answer, but I had money in hand and needed to go left or right. My gut and trust in your videos plus Duncan made me feel like this was the right choice and pan for me. Thank you again! (Girl you should get a small kick back) I told Duncan about you so go collect your free lunch or something. LOL 😁 I wish you many blessings in your life, and much kindness to come your way Amy!
Thank you for this brilliant video! Which is the first extended handpan with the base notes? And which is the builder?
I love your tutorials! Thank you for sharing it with us!!!
i am just about to buy a handpan. This is very useful for me right now, thanks
I just bought my first handpan from Temu for $187. It came with a beautiful sturdy case. I'm assuming that was a mistake??? I play it and it sounds fine. 🤷🏽♀️
I think i bought the same! The blue one right? I think it doesnt sound that bad, but im a totall beginner. When i hear other videos i think its aftually not in tune. But he, it gets me started untill i get a better one
Actualy I think a beginner can buy cheap handpan first, as we don't even known if we gonna like playing handpan...
I bought one on temu these things suck! U need mallets to play them or u can't hear it. A good hand pan should never be used with mallets. But I wanted to check them out before spending the money on a good one. My 19month old plays this one. We will get a good one someday
There are no mistakes. If it sounds fine to you that’s all that matters. I ordered one from Temu also-I only ordered it because there was a video and I was happy with the sound. Happy playing!
@@nicolewilson191Rav sells mallets for 99.00! But as you wish!
Beautifully descriptive video. TBH I’ve never taken the plunge to buy a proper handpan and have used smaller ones. Surely gives me more insight into buying a professionally built instrument ❤🙏🤗✨
Wow. Wish i had seen this video first! Thank you for this information! Moving forward,
going to "invest" my time and money into a musician's
instrument! Thank you again for
your expert advice!❤🙏🏿☯️
This whole video has made me smile so much!!!! Thankyou Amy!! 🙏🏻
Hello Amy, first of all, you play very well and I thank you for the information and comparison you make, it is very helpful. I would really like to be able to buy the handpan that you use at minute 26:28 extended handpan, what brand is it? and where could I purchase it?
I think it is a very good option to be able to have greater tonal possibilities without having to buy two or more handpans.
Thank you.
Hey Amy, thanks for all the advice! Could you shine a light on the extension of the D Kurd - would you rather have an A2 or a Bb2 as the lowest? I'm on my way to A2 thinking it would be more useful for singing along - but I'd love to hear your opinion!
Always grateful for your musical blessings, cheers from Brazil! 🙌🏽
May I know which scale of handspan you are using at 26:50? How many bottom notes? As I like it so much? Thank you
Thanks for a great explanation. It’s made me rethink my plan for my next Handpan.
thanks Amy, listening to all your videos, its so interesting. I am coming from classical music but fascinated by the sound of handpans. Particularly like the sound of the one in major you played around 25". So much to consider before buying and your videos help a lot, thanks again!
You are a good explainer 👍🏻👏🏻🙏🏻
Hello Amy, Great content, thankyou very much for sharing. The Elaia Pygmi at 20.02 can you provide more details or a link? Thanks
Nice info thank you. I could not make out the name of the maker of the first handpan you showed from the UK ? I would like to see their site, Thank you again
Thanks!
I’m just learning about hand pans & this presentation was extremely informative- thank you !
Just out of interest what is the approximate cost of the extended Dm Kurd you demonstrated?
I’m a professional pianist and I think I would benefit from the extra notes.
Love your videos! Thanks a lot ❤
Appreciating your videos! Found this one ex pos facto, I took a chance and purchased a chinese made pan just to test the waters, so far so good, but I am much more informed after watching this video (:
Also appreciate your covering of the tuning calibration issue, ie 440 vx 432, lots of misinformation on that topic, I always like to point out the differences between equal tempered tuning and just intonation "natural tuning". Knowing that handpan makers will custom make instruments for customers, I hope my next handpan will be tuned according to J.I. (;
Cheers!
So far in the USA Terence Jay, and David Beery are my top two of who im looking at to purchase a hand pan from. Im on east coast they are on west. I did find a builder on the east coast with cheaper pans. But i like these guys best so far.
Yeeeaahh good choices, lots of excellent makers in the US! East coast favourites of mine are Veritas Sound Sculptures and Spirit Handpans. So many options!
@@AmyNaylorMusic have u heard of aura handpans? They are the closest builder to where I live.
Such an awesome video THANK YOU I am totally new to this and feel so much more empowered
Thank you for your objectiveness. You have given me a lot to consider.
Peace and love to you, Amy!
ok, so. what sparked my interest in this was two main things: unique sound and portability. i was hoping to find an inexpensive way to make music anywhere i go that wasnt percussion (cajon, kashaka, etc.) and more melodic. a handpan worth having just isn't in my budget and won't be for many many months, I've learned, so maybe you have recommendations for entirely different instruments that fit what I'm trying to find? something portable, melodic rather than percussive, and considerably more affordable. things I've tried and didn't jive with: guitar, harmonica, recorder (might retry if you can think of ones less piercing than the ones we all had in grade school)
Maybe a small metal tongue drum would work well for you. Something from Spirit Percussion, Guda, kosmosky, to name a few brands
@AmyNaylorMusic thank you very much for your replies and recommendations :) I've been browsing your tutorials, so I think I'll be back for those when I finally am able to get a decent handpan.
Thank you for helping unpack handpans!
Thanks for this Amy! I'm wondering, did you actually learn which notes are on the soundfields? How do you make sure you don't get a 'bad combination' while jamming? I do this based on practise/hearing, but that makes it hard not to play the same combinations all the time. Wonder if it gives more freedom if you know the music theory behind it.
I do try to learn the notes, or at least the chord shapes, by drawing out diagrams when I first get the instrument. But until very recently when I started teaching, I also was only figuring it out by ear. I had years of fun with it that way too
I'm just getting started, and this has been incredibly helpful and informative.
I'm starting with the E Low Pygmy from Rav Vast.
The one with the bass notes in this video where can I buy it and what’s it called
thank you, amy! Was really helpful to watch your video! It’s been almost one year that I first came in contact with the handpan and the desire to learn it grows stronger but financially I am a bit restricted so I will buy second hand and check really well before buying. 🤗🤗💚
Perfect! Just the advice I was looking for 🙂
Glad I could help!
I'm not into the 432Hz thing either, but a guitar can easily be tuned in 432 to match with a specific handpan 😉
Can you please recommend the best one to buy for a beginner in Uk and won’t be very expensive I mean under £350 just to start with 😊
Great vid! Is the is the extended hand pan at 26:41 stainless or nitraded/432 or 440?
Hi! Do you maybe by any chance have experience with the builder Panamor in the UK?
Yes, though not extensive. I really enjoyed what I've played from them 🥰
Amy thank you for all of your knowledge! I am diving into the world of hand pans and you have really given me a great starting point! I’ll be checking out your other tutorials! Thanks again!
Awesome! Thank you 😊
Super helpful, thanks very much. Im gonna hopefully find a Birmingham based work shop to have a try before i buy.
D you find one and is that birmingham u.k
@@johnglennon5623 nope, it does not exist.
Great video, thank you!
I'd like deep sounding notes. What scale would you recommend?
F2
@@AmyNaylorMusic ty
Thanks for the information and video. Thumb up from myself :) Could you pls share your favourite workshops (places where I can try and purchase ones) in UK and EU?
im in love 😌
@amynaylormusic what are the specs for the extended handpan at 26:41? Thank you
The one with the underneath notes
Hey Amy, Can you please list the first handpan's maker website? currow handpans?
Hello Amy and felow handpan pkayers / budding players. I have a question, I recently bought myself an 11 note sono dimano instrument but it ha come to my attention that 11 note field are quite unusual.... did I buy a lemon as mot tutorials are demonstrated on 9 note instruments.... Thanks in advance for any advice.
Thanks a lot. In Denmark it seems only Mr. Pans and Sela are really available. Lots of folk prefer Mr. Pans, which is more expensive, but I find the sound more dull than the Sela's brightness. Any thoughts on that? Another reason Sela is cheaper that I haven't discovered yet?
I'm looking for a stainlees pan. Thanks in advantage.
Wow, many thanks
Any recommendations on a G minor extended Handpan, Hava Nagila is in G Minor? thanks🍎🍏
You can play any song in any key you like. G minor, D minor, it doesn't matter as long as the range fits with your voice. Check the description for names of brands I recommend
@@AmyNaylorMusic Thanks, I asked Merdian for a quote on a G minor extended. I have a friends Jewish wedding in 6 months and I want Hava Neglia as best I can
Many thanks for this nice video! Very helpful to buy my first handpan☺️🙏
Very helpful, thank you.
Do you have any thoughts on Harper's Handpans? Recently ordered a custom D Kurd from him. Seems like a genuine, sincere guy and his handpans seem great, and I just wanted to know if you're familiar with his handpans or not! And if so, what do you think of them :)
As Beginner enjoying 'true videos from you 😊 What do you think about a Rav G pygmy to start?
This such an incredible video! Thank you! Do you know any makers that make handpans based in Canada?
Do you a list of good brands to look out for? Sorry if you already mentioned this later. I’m still watching the video
I play Meridian, Elaia, Celestial Sound, Spirit and Ayasa
i had one had to sell it as i became broke
hope ill get one again
What’s up Amy. Love your content for beginners. Ive finally made the decision to buy the Sela Phoenix steel 10 note Handpan in D Kurd with the Bb note. In some strange way I have confidence I can get a Handpan with 4 notes on the bottom. What would you recommend? I’m mainly into keys/synths, electronic guitars, now dipping into a bit of ukulele. Let’s just say I’ve delved into other instruments in my life.
Can anyone recommend a good tongue drum to start with?
23:21 lol you say that while referring to a rav being more budget friendly?? I just looked at your link to them and they are $1000 and up up and up lol does this imply that other handpans are thousands more?
Thank you, very informative video ❤
Thank you so much for doing this video. I am extremely new to handpans. If I could only afford one handpan, and willing to spend what it will cost me, what handpan, scale and manufacturer would you suggest?
And also The very best budget conscious?
I always suggest first looking into handpan builders that are nearest to you so that you can always get help / tunings if you need
@@AmyNaylorMusic there is no one near me. I am in a smaller city in Ontario Canada. The closest place would be Toronto.
Great video, thank you! One question regarding the handpan with extended bottom notes - is there some logic for choosing a ding-type field versus a regular tone field? Here you have three low notes but only one is a ding. In my handlap I have two dings at the bottom and that feels pretty nice, wondering if I could get four on the bottom actually:D
Mmm I'm not exactly sure, but any time I've asked for bottom low notes, I've left it to maker's choice. I think "innies" are easier than "outies" depending on context, but I might be totally wrong!
Hi ! From where can I get the extended scale hand pan just before the last one you showed here?
Thank u so much for this video ❤
Thank you for your enlightenment! Your guidance will help many as well as me in not being disappointed in such a wonderful investment.
Do you know if novapans is any good?
yes thank you ...cool videos
Great thanks! 💙
What tones fit for chanting? D Kurt or C Kurt?
But the amazon one yu got was good!
Problem is good handpan aren't for most people ; so expensive...
Same here… After extensive research of the handpans and the different sounds (hence me watching this video, still listening and learning), I decided I like the sound of the D Kurd handpans and wanted to get one for my 58th birthday June 2024!
I ordered a 22 in D Kurd 10 note after listening to a review video submitted by a recent purchaser (Wykeitha Benton). It’s branded Pickmay and the same is inscribed on it. I love how hers sounds, especially with a water fountain flowing gently in the background. I ordered that one and I love it, been playing it everyday since I got it. I paid $259usd + tax, it’s actually on sale for $229 as of the date of this post, 7/5/24.
No, I am not paid by anyone for my glowing reviews, lol. I really really really like (ok love) my handpan from China. Maybe one day I’ll be able to afford a regular price handpan. I’m staying in my land handpan price-wise until that day comes!
do they make children's sized hp? I'd like to start my grandkids. They are 2 and 3 yo.
Some makers have smaller sized instruments yes. Or you could start with tongue drums which a much cheaper and more accessible for children
Do 13 note handpans have less sustain than 9 note versions ?
No, it's all to do with the material, not the number of notes
Τι γνώμη έχεις για τα novapans που στοιχίζουν 1000€
I like Handpan Joe free your soul melody. Can you teach ❤❤
So Pure's music website is most likely not fully legit. Sounds great but definitely the handpan I play at my crystal shop whenever I go in sounds heavenly
Do you know of any good US based dealers?
The biggest question i have regarding handpans is probably stemming somewhere in- what is the origin story of the handpan, question.
Idk the origins of handpans, who, therefore, based on historical facts are the original inventors and builders of the handpan, leading to then who are the oldest long lived, OG, masters most experienced based on knowledge passed down including experimental failures and sucesses would be part of their story, so many of the modern day so called experimental handpan builders may be repeating old already played out overcome mistakes or they know the successful parts of that history part that has been forgetting or not enough awareness online for example.. but out of it at least enough knowledge to come across and pass as legit pioneers in a certain direction regarding genuine experimental handpans but really arent the first so cant really claim to be worthy of the price they put on an already done tried and tested experiments that anyone ljke me who knows not the history could very easily be conned into thinking this is a cutting edge new craft handpan, but it more like "its edge is cutting my hand" rough, while theyre laughing all the way to go look at their profit account balance.
The first handpan was called a Hang, created by the company Panart in Switzerland some time around the year 2000. Based heavily on the steelpan from Trinidad and Tobago which only came around in the late 30s early 40s. As well as some influence from the Indian ghatam (a clay drum) and the gongs of Indonesian gamelan.
The handpan however is quite different from the steelpan in that it has two shells glued together creating a Helmholtz resonator and making it a whole different beast to work with the sound (which I don't know enough about to confidently write more). So it's still a very new craft, and I would argue that current makers are all very much pioneers in their own way. Many of the best only having been building for 10 years or less!
One of the most exciting things for me, is that right now both handpan players and makers are really relying on each other to challenge each other in what they can play and create in this very fresh field in music 😍
@AmyNaylorMusic good answer thanks for that!
I was swaying more towards an oriental origin, because I don't know any better.
Gongs, chimes, wind and resonant percussive materials and their properties used in instruments. They have been archaeologically dated back thousands of years, and I was thinking what it was a discovery in this last century that was taken from actual artifacts reacreations of or something that was discovered in ancient texts and designs- that to me has more of a ring to it (pun totally intended) rediscovered lost inventions, or revitalised old inventions.
We as a species are a creative bunch! It's not hard to picture a likely very rough image of 1000 years ago- more time on one's hands, got an idea I got from the idea of mixing the ideas of how a gong and wind chimes work. And eureka! A handpan.. probably out of tune yes! but least I've got 999 years to get it right so I can sell it from the Amazon to amazon and make a fortune for my tribes collective prosperity... no human sacrifices this winter solstice!! Yay.
Yeah so I thought it was this ancient far Eastern OG instrument, don't I feel like a t**t lol
Suuuper common misconception! Don't worry about it 😜
440 vs. 432 Hz: Handpans are healing!! 🙏☺🕉🧘♂
Haha, exactly!
Meridian, ALL DAY LONG ;)
Hahahaha agreed!
Here on argentina we have a lot of luthiers who create hand oand cheap and very good. Buy if i can i wsnt to buy one european or else. Mi hand pant is very good. But nit professional vecayse they nit have a kot of noted 😂
i see there is a good company in bristol who makes them
I want a handpan with a whammy bar
If you can imagine it then it's possible. Or already out there!
A handpan with piezo pickups, or bag pipes, maybe and external bag that can change the internal pressure to change the pitch, its essentially like any percussive instrument- velocity of impact x oscillation of surface area ÷ shape and size² of the impact area. An accordian comes to mine, a portable wind instrument with keys probably seemed impossible at the time.
A mechanical synchronised tremolo system on a handpan, you've got me thinking... flat thinner flexible areas on the main surface area next to the notes maybe?
Like a bottle top, before you break the vacuum seal it is depressed, but you can vacuum seal a handpan it wouldn't sound out internally air wouldn't exist, so it'd have to be atmospheric pressure (open).
Sound holes that allow more air or less air to travel .
Or does the sound on a handpan like 90% material vibration & 10% acoustic and therefore air movement?
@mikefarquhar5063 now we're talkin!!!! Maybe even something that will take it up another octave?
Oh no. I bought one off Amazon, does that mean I bought junk?
I bought one from Amazon (a 22 in. 10 Note D Kurd Stainless Steel handpan) for my 58th birthday day June 2024, and I Love it! Sounds the same as the ones in the D Kurd handpan tutorial videos, at least to me a beginner it does. I’ve been playing it everyday since I got it! I’ve even experimented with tiny earth magnets on it…I have a tongue drum (from Amazon as well) and read in a review where you can use earth magnets to change the note. I ordered a set of little magnets ranging in size from small to tiny (from Amazon s as well)…it’s Totally true!!! I decided to test them on my handpan just yesterday (7/4/24) and guess what? The note changed!!! I use several free tuner apps, yes, I felt like I had a whole adventure! In Music Land! Good Luck to You and your Handpan! I hope you two become great friends… 👍🏾
I bought a D Kurd 10 Note 22in a stainless steel handpan from Amazon (for my 58th birthday) and I love mine! I love both the Sound and the Price!
@@CraftyHandpanerWhat is the name brand that you purchased and what was the price, please?
th-cam.com/video/6oremFnbgO0/w-d-xo.html&start_radio=1 hearing this guy is what inspired me to wanting to get one
Yes and no one give you good names because a good tunable pan is 3-5k less than that tuning is a shit show. You have to be a maker to be a good tuner... So buy what you can learn and if you stick with it ... Upgrade...
Just helpful enough to almost watch...
Got money great not...naught... Thanks.
you forgot to tell us to get 2 jobs first :)
Ha! Fair point. I saved for years for my first pan. Now I'm suuuuper lucky to collaborate with makers
Tamayo. Thank Amy. Very good informative video.