What no one ever mentions is that Baltimore let 3 of its starting offensive line go, their second best receiver, their starting runningback, plus 4 starters or important players go and only replaced them with a 30 year old running back that people at first thought was washed until he was going to the Ravens. This is outcome is miraculous
In addition to what you’ll said…2 additional Defensive coaches left to be D Coordinators. Tucker missed a total of 22 points worth of kicks and the Ravens have lost by a total of 22 points. Hamilton dropped the game sealing INT against the Browns when Jameis gifted him the INT. The longtime O Line coach died right before the season. Lamar didn’t play in the preseason. That’s a lot to overcome.
After Josh's weak game against a horrible Patriots team, now the narrative is that Josh has been playing with a broken hand on his non-throwing hand? *EXCUSES!* They have been trying to GIVE Josh the MVP ever since he was on the cover of Madden. In the CBS game graphic they even omitted the Allen INT and many called it an *"ARM PUNT"* Its another moving goal post! It's ridiculous at this point the amount of hypocrisy!
Excuses? His left hand is freaking broken, dude. That's a fact. Why can't you just say Lamar is playing awesome and in the MVP conversation without shitting on Allen. The Ravens DID lose to the Raiders and the Browns, 2 horrible teams. You're acting like the Bills lost yesterday. They played in some pretty nasty weather, and the Patriots took it to them and Buffalo came out with the W.
@stobo7182 Yes, he's been wearing a glove on his left hand since week 1. Everyone knew he was playing through something. We just now know the injury is a broken hand.
@patrykkuffel2679 and the Ravens wiped the floor with the Bills earlier in the season. Allen went 9/30 in the game after that! The Bills are 4-2 in games with Allen having a passer rating below 100. Yet people act like he's doing it all by himself with no support. The Bills lost a game and Allen's odds went up! You bring up losses to the Browns and Raiders. It wasn't Lamar that lost those games. It was the defense and Tucker! The Allen bias is so blatant this season. The Facility basically said Lamar already has 2, it's Allen's time, he's due! Last year they cried "but the stats, he doesn't deserve it!" This year he comes out and gives you stats and they're still like, "nah you don't deserve it! You lost last year in the playoffs when we gave it to you and made us look bad." Newsflash, Lamar made it further than Josh last year. They both sat on the couch to watch Pat win it all.
As a Ravens fan….IDGAF about MVP. We ALL KNOW who it is statistically but narratives will always prevail over the facts! I want this Lombardy THATS IT!!!!!!
@@Kasimir-G7 Your comments on comments are more so!! Go wash your yellow towel so you can swing it around while Mahomes takes you apart next! People who think they are internet police; I mean, really?????
Preach my brother, preach it! Fun fact fellow Flock member. Lamar's Heisman and both MVP trophies are on a shelf, IN A CLOSET! He said he has 1 spot reserved for his post-Super Bowl win swag.
My MVP list in order: 1) Lamar Jackson 2) saquon Barkley 3) Joe burrow 4) Josh Allen I am honestly kinda just stunned that Josh Allen is getting this crazy media push. I mean he is deserving but he's only the 4th most deserving by my estimation so far. Josh Allen has put a worse performance than Joe burrow and Lamar, and he did it against a significantly easier schedule. Outside of the chiefs and Lions, the bills have mostly beat up on bad teams, and they got throttled by the Ravens. And people don't talk enough about saquon Barkley's impact on the Eagles relative to how much money he makes. Dude takes a fraction of the salary cap from his team as all these other guys and still has a massive EPA total. Might even completely restructure how RB's are valued going forward. If you consider value per dollar, he's the most value efficient player in the NFL. Anyone can pay top dollar for top talent. Having talent like Barkley for 12m is the kind of value that separates the cream from the crop in the NFL.
did everybody forget Josh Allen had the WORST QB PERFORMANCE OVER THE LAST 30 YEARS THIS SEASON ??? 9/30 is the worst performance with 30 attempts since at least 1994. Did everybody forget he got BENCHED in the fourth quarter of the ravens game after putting up TEN POINTS against that atrocious defense? How is that an MVP? What are we talking about??????
Last time the Ravens lost by more than 7 points was last game of the regular season last year when they were resting their starters. Last time the Bills lost by more than 7 was this year against the Ravens when they curb stomped them 35-10. Bills get to play in a joke of a division while the Ravens are constantly in the playoffs in arguably the toughest division in football every year. Lamar took a franchise known for its defense and made it known for its offense singlehandedly. He's having his best season hands down and the only argument against him is that Derrick Henry is having a good year too? Last I checked Ravens have been historically the best rushing team every year since Lamar joined the league. Derrick Henry gets more from being on the Ravens than the Ravens get from Derrick Henry and it all is due to MVP Lamar Jackson.
Lamar is the MVP! This is a QB award he is having the best season passing and running a QB has ever had! he had biased agenda pushed against him because he lost in the playoffs to the Goat. This is a regular season award and he might break the single season passer rating record! There's no way you do that and don't win MVP! He could finish wish 45/50 TDs with 4 ints! Josh is having a good year but Lamar is having one of the best seasons of all time! For the people that always say Josh had better stats last year Lamar played 16 games and Josh threw 18 picks last year that's not great. Lamar Josh and Joe season this year is better than Josh season last year. Lamar makes Derrick Henry better by being a dual threat and like Davante Adam's said the best ball carrier and biggest threat with the ball! They sale out to stop Lamar! Don't listen to the media listen to the Goats! Aaron rogers Tom Brady Demeco Ryan if they all had a vote they would go Lamar because they don't believe in narrative they believe in football! #WATCHTHETAPE
There are turnovers in every game. Why is it that the Ravens are lucky and the steelers made mistakes? The Ravens made more plays in this game, that is all.
Josh Allen record against teams that are currently plus .500+ 3-3. Lamar Jackson record against teams that are currently plus .500+ 6-3 …. if the bengals win out somehow get to 9-8 then Lamar record will get extra 2 wins against plus .500+ teams.
Look at what Lamar is doing with his Strength of schedule and compare it to Josh. Josh had that 9/30 game. Lamar won the head to head CONVINCINGLY. Several of the Ravens losses can be pinned on Tucker missing field goals. Watch every LJ interception…3 were wr drops that bounced toward dbs and the one this week Bateman stopped running. Lamar is the MVP.
Lamar on pace for 4th best passer rating in nfl history. His team has loss all games in which his passer rating was lower than 115. Josh allen inclduing last night is 4 and 2 in games of less than 100 passer rating. Joe Burrow goes nuclear in both ravens games and if Lamar is literally not thanos with the infinity stones, they lose both those games. Josh as a passer is having an ok season rn he should 2nd.
Your yt channel will lose people if you guys can't be fair how do the Steelers made lamar play a bad game when his kicker missed FGs they lost by 2... Eagles game.. if tucker is tucker we go marching down that last drive to win the game... The mv3 hasn't played a bad game at all
after that Allen’s performance they have to be neck and neck. Lamar have better stats pretty much everywhere and Josh got 2 more wins n still fighting for that 1 seed
“If it was a normal ravens Steelers game”? What? What are these excuses? It was a ravens Steelers game and the Steelers got wrecked on both sides of the ball. Oh and Tucker actually hit his field goal unlike last game that caused the loss.
Lamar is 6-3 against playoff teams with better stats in about ten different categories and whooped up in the Bills. Bills have had an incredibly soft schedule and are 3-3 against playoff teams including a 9-3 win against the steels and a historically bad game gave by Allen against the Colts. I dinner even understand the argument for Allen at this point.
Just remember Allen lost a H2H against LJ and played horrible. He also played horrible against one of the worst teams in the league. LJ hasn’t played bad outside the last Steelers game. Remember last week when LJ threw for 5 TDS n ppl glossed the over it because it’s the giants, now Allen played horrible against a bad team where people thought he would have had a great game against them. If LJ balls on Xmas day and Allen plays bad and loses to The Jets you know what to do with your vote.
He threw perfect passes on multiple 3rd downs. He hit one perfectly to Likely in tight coverage with his feet in his own endzone. He's been lights out and people like you just have nitpicks stupidity. He's prime Aaron Rodgers with 4.3 speed. Grow up.
What no one ever mentions is that Baltimore let 3 of its starting offensive line go, their second best receiver, their starting runningback, plus 4 starters or important players go and only replaced them with a 30 year old running back that people at first thought was washed until he was going to the Ravens. This is outcome is miraculous
And we lost so many defensive pieces that Lamar had to overcome for like the first half of the season
Bettman flowers andrews likely and henry n hill is a elite offense unit especially accompanied by a top ten oline
@@davwes8594 they are
The D Coach left and took 2 assistants with him
In addition to what you’ll said…2 additional Defensive coaches left to be D Coordinators. Tucker missed a total of 22 points worth of kicks and the Ravens have lost by a total of 22 points. Hamilton dropped the game sealing INT against the Browns when Jameis gifted him the INT. The longtime O Line coach died right before the season. Lamar didn’t play in the preseason. That’s a lot to overcome.
After Josh's weak game against a horrible Patriots team, now the narrative is that Josh has been playing with a broken hand on his non-throwing hand? *EXCUSES!*
They have been trying to GIVE Josh the MVP ever since he was on the cover of Madden. In the CBS game graphic they even omitted the Allen INT and many called it an *"ARM PUNT"* Its another moving goal post! It's ridiculous at this point the amount of hypocrisy!
Excuses? His left hand is freaking broken, dude. That's a fact. Why can't you just say Lamar is playing awesome and in the MVP conversation without shitting on Allen. The Ravens DID lose to the Raiders and the Browns, 2 horrible teams. You're acting like the Bills lost yesterday. They played in some pretty nasty weather, and the Patriots took it to them and Buffalo came out with the W.
That is a excuse. If you are on the field, you are healthy@patrykkuffel2679
@@patrykkuffel2679 has that ever been on a injury report this year?
@stobo7182 Yes, he's been wearing a glove on his left hand since week 1. Everyone knew he was playing through something. We just now know the injury is a broken hand.
@patrykkuffel2679 and the Ravens wiped the floor with the Bills earlier in the season. Allen went 9/30 in the game after that! The Bills are 4-2 in games with Allen having a passer rating below 100. Yet people act like he's doing it all by himself with no support. The Bills lost a game and Allen's odds went up! You bring up losses to the Browns and Raiders. It wasn't Lamar that lost those games. It was the defense and Tucker! The Allen bias is so blatant this season. The Facility basically said Lamar already has 2, it's Allen's time, he's due! Last year they cried "but the stats, he doesn't deserve it!" This year he comes out and gives you stats and they're still like, "nah you don't deserve it! You lost last year in the playoffs when we gave it to you and made us look bad." Newsflash, Lamar made it further than Josh last year. They both sat on the couch to watch Pat win it all.
As a Ravens fan….IDGAF about MVP. We ALL KNOW who it is statistically but narratives will always prevail over the facts! I want this Lombardy THATS IT!!!!!!
Easy 😂
Than please stop commenting. It’s annoying
Agreed. I could care less about MVP. That trophy in February is all that matters.
@@Kasimir-G7 Your comments on comments are more so!! Go wash your yellow towel so you can swing it around while Mahomes takes you apart next! People who think they are internet police; I mean, really?????
Preach my brother, preach it! Fun fact fellow Flock member. Lamar's Heisman and both MVP trophies are on a shelf, IN A CLOSET! He said he has 1 spot reserved for his post-Super Bowl win swag.
My MVP list in order:
1) Lamar Jackson
2) saquon Barkley
3) Joe burrow
4) Josh Allen
I am honestly kinda just stunned that Josh Allen is getting this crazy media push. I mean he is deserving but he's only the 4th most deserving by my estimation so far. Josh Allen has put a worse performance than Joe burrow and Lamar, and he did it against a significantly easier schedule. Outside of the chiefs and Lions, the bills have mostly beat up on bad teams, and they got throttled by the Ravens.
And people don't talk enough about saquon Barkley's impact on the Eagles relative to how much money he makes. Dude takes a fraction of the salary cap from his team as all these other guys and still has a massive EPA total. Might even completely restructure how RB's are valued going forward. If you consider value per dollar, he's the most value efficient player in the NFL. Anyone can pay top dollar for top talent. Having talent like Barkley for 12m is the kind of value that separates the cream from the crop in the NFL.
did everybody forget Josh Allen had the WORST QB PERFORMANCE OVER THE LAST 30 YEARS THIS SEASON ??? 9/30 is the worst performance with 30 attempts since at least 1994. Did everybody forget he got BENCHED in the fourth quarter of the ravens game after putting up TEN POINTS against that atrocious defense? How is that an MVP? What are we talking about??????
Last time the Ravens lost by more than 7 points was last game of the regular season last year when they were resting their starters. Last time the Bills lost by more than 7 was this year against the Ravens when they curb stomped them 35-10. Bills get to play in a joke of a division while the Ravens are constantly in the playoffs in arguably the toughest division in football every year. Lamar took a franchise known for its defense and made it known for its offense singlehandedly. He's having his best season hands down and the only argument against him is that Derrick Henry is having a good year too? Last I checked Ravens have been historically the best rushing team every year since Lamar joined the league. Derrick Henry gets more from being on the Ravens than the Ravens get from Derrick Henry and it all is due to MVP Lamar Jackson.
Lamar is the MVP! This is a QB award he is having the best season passing and running a QB has ever had! he had biased agenda pushed against him because he lost in the playoffs to the Goat. This is a regular season award and he might break the single season passer rating record! There's no way you do that and don't win MVP! He could finish wish 45/50 TDs with 4 ints! Josh is having a good year but Lamar is having one of the best seasons of all time! For the people that always say Josh had better stats last year Lamar played 16 games and Josh threw 18 picks last year that's not great. Lamar Josh and Joe season this year is better than Josh season last year. Lamar makes Derrick Henry better by being a dual threat and like Davante Adam's said the best ball carrier and biggest threat with the ball! They sale out to stop Lamar! Don't listen to the media listen to the Goats! Aaron rogers Tom Brady Demeco Ryan if they all had a vote they would go Lamar because they don't believe in narrative they believe in football! #WATCHTHETAPE
It's crazy how the narrative of LJ and Ravens is always a " team got lucky" this season.
SAM please go back and watch either ravens bengals game. My pojnt is even if bengals make the playoffs, lamar outdueled him both games.
After that Josh Allen performance it’s Lamar’s to lose
There are turnovers in every game. Why is it that the Ravens are lucky and the steelers made mistakes? The Ravens made more plays in this game, that is all.
Josh Allen record against teams that are currently plus .500+ 3-3.
Lamar Jackson record against teams that are currently plus .500+ 6-3 ….
if the bengals win out somehow get to 9-8 then Lamar record will get extra 2 wins against plus .500+ teams.
Look at what Lamar is doing with his Strength of schedule and compare it to Josh. Josh had that 9/30 game. Lamar won the head to head CONVINCINGLY. Several of the Ravens losses can be pinned on Tucker missing field goals. Watch every LJ interception…3 were wr drops that bounced toward dbs and the one this week Bateman stopped running. Lamar is the MVP.
Guess it doesn’t matter that Lamar’s Ravens crushed Josh’s Bills??
Lamar on pace for 4th best passer rating in nfl history. His team has loss all games in which his passer rating was lower than 115. Josh allen inclduing last night is 4 and 2 in games of less than 100 passer rating. Joe Burrow goes nuclear in both ravens games and if Lamar is literally not thanos with the infinity stones, they lose both those games. Josh as a passer is having an ok season rn he should 2nd.
Your yt channel will lose people if you guys can't be fair how do the Steelers made lamar play a bad game when his kicker missed FGs they lost by 2... Eagles game.. if tucker is tucker we go marching down that last drive to win the game... The mv3 hasn't played a bad game at all
after that Allen’s performance they have to be neck and neck. Lamar have better stats pretty much everywhere and Josh got 2 more wins n still fighting for that 1 seed
“If it was a normal ravens Steelers game”? What? What are these excuses? It was a ravens Steelers game and the Steelers got wrecked on both sides of the ball. Oh and Tucker actually hit his field goal unlike last game that caused the loss.
Lamar is 6-3 against playoff teams with better stats in about ten different categories and whooped up in the Bills. Bills have had an incredibly soft schedule and are 3-3 against playoff teams including a 9-3 win against the steels and a historically bad game gave by Allen against the Colts. I dinner even understand the argument for Allen at this point.
Buffalo didn't play the Steelers this year. The game you're referring to is a preseason game. C'mon bro stop trying to nit pick stats.
Just remember Allen lost a H2H against LJ and played horrible. He also played horrible against one of the worst teams in the league. LJ hasn’t played bad outside the last Steelers game. Remember last week when LJ threw for 5 TDS n ppl glossed the over it because it’s the giants, now Allen played horrible against a bad team where people thought he would have had a great game against them. If LJ balls on Xmas day and Allen plays bad and loses to The Jets you know what to do with your vote.
Hahaha … I watched while at a holiday party as well 🎄💜
Aaron Schatz has an MVP vote, I'd be willing to bet he has comparable or lower net worth.
Why do injuries matter now?
Truth is, mvp is a dead heat right now
How?
That hat funny 😂😂😂
It’s a steeler thing this what we do dumb shit then beat a good team let’s go get a dub at home next week
How do you get to put on not one but two games at a party you are at for your wife? 😅 if only.
Lamar didnt really hit any tough throwz maybe 2
He threw perfect passes on multiple 3rd downs. He hit one perfectly to Likely in tight coverage with his feet in his own endzone. He's been lights out and people like you just have nitpicks stupidity. He's prime Aaron Rodgers with 4.3 speed. Grow up.
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