Will Whittaker make Chimaev Look Bad?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 เม.ย. 2024
- Chael Sonnen talks Robert Whittaker vs Khamzat Chimaev on this episode of Beyond the Fight
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All things UFC and MMA with the undefeated Bad Guy, Chael Sonnen. UFC Champions, Jon Jones, Conor McGregor, Colby Covington, Khamzat Chimaev, the MMA hour and commentary on the latest UFC news, UFC Champions in 2022, UFC knockouts and finishes. - บันเทิง
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Whittaker can't let chimaev get close
What can that talker do? Bow down and suck? 😂
Just for the first minute of the first round after that, he’ll gas out😂
@@IlIlIUnknownadventurermaybe he doesn’t leave anything in the tank?
He’s dramatically improved in the wrestling department but it’s difficult to imagine him hanging with Khamzat
Vanderley, I can’t let you get close. lol
I feel like GSP see’s a lot of his attributes in Whitaker. All around great fighter. No real weakness in the ring. They use all their skills in fights and can evolve over rounds to find the win.
GSP retired after beating bisping because he didn’t want to fight Whittaker.
@@lukeking7487 or cause he was like 40 years old after beating bisping
@@lukeking7487 Nah.. he really was sick..
But I think rob would have out pointed GSP.
*Octagon
So he's trying to live vicariously through Whittaker. Got ya.
Any guy who expends that much energy in the first round is going to fatigue themselves.
The problem with Chimaev is that his striking is just not that good to keep up with high level strikers like Usman or Whitaker, and if he struggles to submit Whitaker, it works in Whitakers favor, especially given a five round fight.
I vowed to never have a "favorite" fighter after Cropcop got KO'd by Gonzaga, and after Chael beat Silva in the last round (because they broke my heart), but Whittaker is the closest thing to my "favorite" fighter in a long time. Dude is tough, fought through injuries, took all the fights, and still comes back and beats the contenders.
I’ll claim it for ya- Whittakers my favorite fighter 👊🏼 Ever since Alex Gustafson retired.
whats so bad about someoen losing? its just the nature of things
@@AXharothits sad when your favorite dude gets beat up
Whittaker isn't my favorite, but I did call him as future champ back on Tuf Smashes. His left was scary
There are lots of fan friendly warriors eg Cowboy Cerrone who might never win a title but can be a "fan favourite"
Ok great, now where does Kevin Lee fit into this?
Lee really he sucks
Yea this is just an obsolete Chael joke, time to move on
he doesnt anymore
ho observes the holes in khamzats game.
@@mj4193 he coming back so it is relevant again
First person to realize Borz didn't gas out, he goes all out, if he paced himself he'd be a cardio machine but he's going in there to eat them
He’s also mad over promoted with 0 wins over relative middleweights
Could go either way. If it goes past round 3 though, Khamzat is toast
Whittaker that Beat Romero are a Nightmare for Chimaev.
Chimaev gets tired cuz he puts more effort in from bell to bell than most fighters. And those who go 100 from the hell, don't even make it a full round like that. It's khamzat fought at a conserving pace like Strickland, he could go an hour
facts
It was also because all of his previous fights were 3 rounders. That's why he would always go full pace. People think he has poor cardio which is absolutely not the case. This is his 1st 5 rounder and he's aware of it. He'll be more patient this time
@@CumcastCable big facts
BOBBY KNUCKLES IS COMING FOR THE BELT 💪🏼👍🏼
I agree with you about Chimaev's conditioning. Theres no point in having fuel left in the tank after the fight. Empty the tank, you should be exerted at the end.
GSP: Ehhhhhhhh Whidicker karate advantage
Talk after the fight
khamzat smesh
Lol 😅
Five rounds will certainly fatigue anyone. Let’s not forget Khamzat was severely ill with covid. From my perspective, having nearly died, I’ll just admit I’m not 50% of the capacity I was prior (when I finished an Ironman at 55 years old). It’s amazing to me he was ever able to compete at all.
Nobody thought that ddp can do 5 rounds, so maybe kamzat can but we haven't seen it yet
He won't last 5 rounds. Both 3 round fights with contenders you could see him gassing by the end of the 2nd round. If he conserves his energy, he might be able to fight through. Whittaker has a great gas tank and if he pushes the pace without getting knocked out he'll win by 4th round easy.
DDP explained a long time ago that he needed nose surgery. That was causing his cardio issues.
That issue is long ago in the past.
@@Hardcore-0070 he was gassing in 3 rounds not because of poor cardio but because no one goes as hard as him in the 1st rd as this guy not even Chandler. Idc who you are but this is gonna tire you out. And he knew his fights are only 3 rounds so he would consume all his energy. I don't think he's that stupid to not realize that this is his first 5 rounder so i really think he'll be more cautious and patient
I want to see chimaev fighting 3 times a year
Your gonna upset his fan boys by saying. This
Idk if he can fight in the US any more so that would be hard
@@Yungdabmannwhy? We all want to see him fight
@@tylermoskowitz2848I hope they can make this work. It should be OK if UFC books at least 25% of PPV cards in intl locations.
Me too
This could really go anyway just like Khamzat's last two fights, who would have predicted them (or his fights with GM3 or the Leech for that matter). Khamzat takes everybody to the ground. Whittaker seldom gets taken down. Which trend will continue. I don't know but I would guess that Khamzat continues taking everybody to the ground.
Whittaker can hold up on the wrestling and weather the storm for 1 and half rounds the real question is if he can be super technical in the brawl and drop Khamzat.
Cus that will change the game.
I would imagine he does.... I the first round, but if he doesn't get the finish... what about rd 2 then 3 then 4... his pacing needs to be applied differently than normap
you need to keep something in mind , middleweight doesnt have any elite wrestlers except khamazat , romero yes he was but he didnt wrestle or he gave up on wrestling bc he gastank was bad
anyone who wants to win vs khamzat needs to survive the first round , that the hardest part
In every fight Khamzat has had. He has been in trouble with his entire coaching team for everything from "playing with his food" to "letting the matches go on to test himself". There are a small handful of men that you can not do that with. Gilbert Burns is one, and Chimaev did. He wanted the test of Burns more that the win, but got the win. Usman is by far one of the top 10 ever and Chimaev almost lost that one for doing the same. When it comes to GSP, Jones, Fedor, Khabib, Whittaker, and a very few others. If Chimaev goes out to "test" himself with Whittaker. Whittaker will hand his ass to him in a brown paper bag. If Chimaev comes to win and is nothing but business. He will hand Whittaker a loss.
I said this from the time it was announced. " This match is Chimaev's to loose or to win. The deciding factor is what his intent is. Because no one in the world in different weight classes can play anything with Whittaker."
If Burns had made Chimaev "look bad," I don't see why Whittaker couldn't do the same.
Chimeav was scared of Burns jujitsu, so it became who is the better striker. I just don't see this fight going that way. Whittaker is going to have the toughest first round of his life, after which he'll probably have a decent chance.of winning.
Lol...He fought burns during Ramadan..Do fast and Face a professional fighter...It's not easy@@jamescook4402
and if DDP could knock whitteker out cold imagine what KHAMZAT can do to him
🤣😂😃🤣😁
I'm sure GSP was also referring to RW's anti-wrestling, as it is kind of his bread and butter.
Remember when GSP said Chris Weidman was going to beat Anderson? His predictions have been pretty decent.
it was also because GSP trained with Chris. GSP didn't trained with neither Chimaev and Whittaker but anything can happen so who knows
He sees things
George is right
Chael big fan- in all honesty I think something’s off w/ Khamzat…I still haven’t been convinced of his hype, Whitaker may be the best test w/o an asterisk for him to date -no mismatch no last minute notice no weight miss not going against a guy coming back from a KO etc etc…but Khamzat is younger I guess he has that. My $$$ on Whitaker to humble the hype train
i mean he's not a hype train. he went a really close fight with kamaru usman who has been in the goat debate many times. Khamzat is great, maybe just not as good as robbert, we will see.
@@Thadnill yeah he HAS been riding an inflated hype train the UFC pushed & a lot of that has to do w/ how big his market is in Middle East/europe, he was supposed to be the next automatic double champ, except everyone quickly realized he simply cannot simultaneously make 170 lbs & be effective in a 5 round championship fight, gas tank too low, weight cut too harsh- so they move him up to 185 & problem there is, he’s no longer the biggest guy in the division & better grapplers/harder strikers @ MW, so he’s no lock for a title @ MW either…far from it. He fought Usman & had 1 great round & 2 close ones, and Usman was winning the third cleanly- had that fight gone for 5 rounds Khamzat would’ve been F’d. Khamzat getting winded in a 3 round fight he had a full training camp for & yet Usman was right there, less winded, & he was laying on his couch a week prior to the damn fight, fought up 15 lbs in a division he’s never fought in before, & was coming off a KO loss….THAT is the truth @ that’s what you’re basing his greatness on?🥶 so it’s either a recently KO’d, unprepared, fighting up 15 lbs from his normal weight class Usman OR an undersized mismatched Gilbert that is Khamzat’s “biggest victory” in his career thus far. Think about it
I hope so!
Go back to the robert vs smith fight. Bobby knuckles is here to SCRAP!
It was obvious vs Burns that he didn’t have a tank , especially when his takedowns are less effective after 1 single round
Bs he didnt take down burnz because burnz almost broke his arm when chinaev took him down
George was coached by Firas Zahabi. Firas talks about slow twitch and fast twitch muscles. And how fast twitch come at a cost.. Endurance. GSP believes this as well.
It all depends on wat point in the fight does the fighter get tired. If the fighter getsexhausted early then they have poor conditioning. If they get exhausted towards the end then they have good conditioning. If they never get exhausted like Nate Diaz then they have great conditioning.
Amazing observation by Uncle Chael
People forget Khamzat is now 15 lbs heavier. He’ll smother RW & win in less than 2 rounds.
Gsp is THE 5 round man
I've never been tired, just ready for a beer.
😄 The only exercise I get, is walking to the pub.
@@gabrielplattes6253 I drink 40s, you should see my arms, swole af
I feel like people talk do much about conditioning, but not energy expense per round.. like nates stamina was amazing but he did not work round per round the same as chimaev, then you have freaks like prime covington who shot constantly and successfully and never gassed, thats more impressive. Khamzat pushes so much energy out that if he just slowed down considerably he'd have much greater chances later on
KC was tired with Burns, who can blame him? Burns is a beast
George actually is the french commentator for France and Canada!
Yeah I wonder why nobody writes about Chimaev anymore? It cant be because he never fights nor says anything interesting and all he does is call out people that he's definitely NOT fighting next. Hypetrains dont stay hype if they don't work.
It's because he said something pro-palestine during his post fight interview probably
So when DDP "gave his all" and got tired you thought his conditioning wasnt up to par..
Now you sing a different tune..?
He is heavily biased towards wrestlers
The concern for fatigue is rightfully questionable. But wasn't he deathly ill prior to one fight then broke his hand in the 1st round in another? Idk if he's fought enough to know that answer yet...he usually finishes them too fast to tell. 💪
Chimaev by finish and Whittaker by decision would be a good bet if the match wasn't taking place in the middle east😂
Whitaker needs to drop him twice in seperate rounds and dominate the wrestling to get the W thats a tall order😢
You definitely spitting facts 💪
Fascinating take on the fight mate. Whatever they say about khamzat he seems to prove people wrong. They said he would be tested against an experienced striker in meerschaert and he dropped him with one punch. And his endurance always gets questioned but that brutal fight against burns he had never been tested like that and he was still swinging hard in the last round. I look forward to the fight.
Khamzat is living his best life. He’s fighting guys who’s he’s biggest fans of.
Congrats on HOF bad guy
that's a good point uncle chael. i always think chimaev conditioning is bad after covid but maybe he just like to fight in exhaustion, can't wait to see which one is true!
Khamzats conditioning isn't the problem it's his pacing, which is fine when there is no resistance and you get them out of there early... but now he needs better fight IQ, more of a grinding pace than going way over your vo2 max
Did you even watch the video?
I don't think Bobby Knucks can handle Chimaev tbh. I like Whittaker, and dont like Chimaev but it's not what I want to happen, it's what I think will happen.
I absolutely agree, he is going to saunter in and think he can stand with him, and it is going to be disastrous. He stood and slugged with Burns to prove a point. If he settles down and quit trying to SMESH EVERYBODY and uses his height and boxing this is a disaster match up for Robert.
I kind of agree
If Whittaker holds off that blitz from khamzat to start the fight i think he wins every round past the 1st
But i do agree there is a good to very good chance khamzat gets the first round finish. Most dont look ready for his speed/strength combo, even Usman he ragdolled all first round
Past the first though Khamzat isnt great, hes very human
@@robbigs1855he didn't slug it out with Burns to prove a point 🤦. Burns took away Khamzats ground game with his BJJ so that's all he had left
@@Rowsy91bro all is human
@@HoniTheCircleMaker13the problem for Robert is no submission threat
Yes. He has a conditioning issue.If Chimaev could fight at the same pace in rounds 2/3 as he does round 1 he’d be unstoppable. You’re right it’s not a critique. He’s been dominant without the greatest conditioning, arguably the easiest thing to work on.
Do you have a problem with championship weight ?
The Super Bowl can’t end in tie. The nba playoffs change to best of 5 best of 7 in playoffs.
People forget how close Burns Chimaev was, could've gone either way. Whittaker will expose him.
I'm a casual btw.
George gave up the middle weight belt after beating Bisping because he didn't want the Whitaker smoke. He knows how good Whitaker is.
"there's not a lot of former champions" well except im MW, which has like, four currently floating around
Lets wrestle chimaev
After u wrestle him. I wrestle you in baby oil and speedo. I will dominate u.
I will oil check u on purpose too
Chimaev looks like gargamel from the smurfs 😂 hard to make him look any worse than that.
You look like the trans guy from the big brother show
Whittaker is a beast and chimaev isn’t getting the credit he deserves for beating usman regardless of the short notice
I don't think he a conditioning problem. I think he has a pacing problem.
Ya
It is interesting the consensus that Khamzat has no gas tank… wrestlers usually have the absolute best cardio. Hands down.
If Robert makes it one round, he will win!
Chael, love the content. But what is this mic quality? Sounds like a toy mic from a teddy bear with the reverb from a bathroom.
Did anyone not see Whittaker gas out fighting DDP before he got TKO’d? Khamzat is going to eat him alive not sure why no one’s caught on yet.
It's all about the win, doesn't matter how Khamzat looks against Whittaker as long as he secures the W. Whittaker is a well decorated UFC champ not some nobody.
I don’t necessarily think Khamzat has a bad gas tank but he definitely is bad at managing his gas tank. But thats kind of the trade off of his style.
Chimawv's best shot is in the 1st round get Robert diwn fast. Good ground and pound and find a sub in the 1st round
But they called the singlet pull. So even if they didn’t have the footage they couldn’t overturn it. He knew he did it and they called it.
I think Whittaker has a chance if he goes 5 round. But he has to pass the storm, which is chimaev. If we get that chimaev that fought Kevin Holland that didn't let up that was constantly on the gas that's a hard time for Rob. But Usman showed us to stand with him but he is a fantastic wrestler but still lost. Before people say Usman didn't train etc. He has stated before he doesn't stop training.
Going 10 rounds with Yoel Freaking Romero is harder than anything Chimaev will bring to the table.
There's also a chance that Whittaker catches on some technical mistakes Chimaev makes when he brings the storm.
Getting a decision is tough in the middle East against "their guy"
Bro you’re talking like Whittaker cant wrestle and doesn’t have some of the best TD defense in the history of the sport. You’re also forgetting his timing and space awareness. There is a chance khamzat clips him early but other than that rob mops the floor with this guy
My first thought when anybody gasses out is.... how much weight did they have to cut? I did it once...in high school wresting...for one match, and it was only 3 or 4 pounds, and it SUCKED. I honestly don't know if that is relevant in Chimaev's case or not but probably has an impact just in general.
I remember when GSP said there was zero chance of nate beat conor at ufc 196. Then they showed him shocked in the crowd after the fight lol.
Whitakers leg kicks are brutal
Whittaker yeah he is a beast. Burns i think either beat or almost be chimaev. So yeah this is going to het bad for him.
Khamzat already fought Burns and Usman. Not really understanding why he is not getting a title shot.
Dana’s going to give RW a title shot if he wins this. That would be RW’s third title shot and it would be against a guy who already definitively beat him twice in Israel, or a guy who KOed him not even a year ago in DDP. Meanwhile Strickland, who dominated Israel and arguably beat DDP is stuck with a guy who RW barely beat after that guy had been on the shelf for a year and a half and lost 3 of his last 4 with the only win being an over-the-hill Rockhold.
I don’t think he gets tired , he just goes way too hard from the start. Him and Burns went to war the whole time. However , Rob is a different animal.
Seven quarters 😂
Chael can't let maths get close
Ppl are uneducated. Khamzat's conditioning is fine. He's literally won the 3rd round in both his "tough" fights. Ppl are comparing his other rounds to how he fights in the first, so the contrast is making them think he's gassed. He's not... of course he don't fight that way for a whole fight, he's not a fucking robot. Lol. Guys that gas don't finish stronger than their opponents. I love his fighting style. He doesn't fade.... not dramatically. He just comes to dominate and run through his opponent. If they survive that initial storm then he settles into the fight. As far as 4th and 5th round cardio who knows.... Whittaker , or whoever else, will have to get him there for us to find out. But he hasn't shown any reason to think he can't keep fighting. Like i said, he's finished both tough fights stronger than his opponents. 🤷♂️🤷♂️
MAKE ROUNDS SHORTER
Ask Oleg Taktarov about karate and conditioning. Grappler 👊🏻
No this will be a good fight I think Chimiav has learned going in there an going all out so I think he will take it slow honestly
I hate and love this match. Very bittersweet- Bobby knuckles is and will be one of my all time favorites, as goes for Khamzat. 😢
yea i do whittakers striking is on a completely different level as is his strength/ takedown defense burns at 170 arguably beat him.
If he makes it out of the first round without taking too much damage, Whittaker will make him move back down to 170
Justin v Max. Justin looked gassed and physically exhausted half way thru round 2. He didn't stop tho. Some guys can keep going and look exhausted some cant. You dont know till you know. Uncle Chael is right as rain on this one. And im a big Bobby Knuckles Fan
No bouncing stand-up style and no high kicks against this takedown machine Rob !!
Hey champ, bring some videos photographs or other type of visual media to support your very well based opinions. Just a thought, Champ!
Chael can you make a video on Charles Oliveira please and ask yourself and make a claim what does he do next for his career
Uncle Chael. Ilia just called out Max on Ariel’s podcast. Can’t wait for you to lose your shit over that story.
He went to ariels show to make a call out? man i wanted to like Ilia because hes so good but what a dork move lol
Hopefully max ends him
Yes, after 1 round.
Idk if Rob doesn’t fight like he’s fighting costa i think he gets manhandled, chimaev is very aggressive and goes immediately for the opponents weak spot, and if he can get a takedown and hold him down for a ground and pound enough for the ref to stop it it’s another easy fight for chimaev
Rob is a great wrestler
The media completly turned on Chimaev but when he will destroy Whitaker in one round they will start talking about him 50 times a day again
Wrestling is a sprint, striking in a long distance run. He has pacing issues, not conditioning issues.
Any conditioning ‘issues’ he may have had were likely due to poor cuts. He’s less likely to suffer those at middle. Whittaker has great conditioning and better standup. Chimaev can only win this on the ground, which tests conditioning more than standup. My money will literally be on a RW stoppage. Guess we’ll see.
Chael brings up a great point about fighters doing 5 rounds for the first time and how different it is. Worlds Strongest Man would be Thor right now if it was just judged by the deadlift. But it's not and Hooper is the best all around strongman at multiple events. Armwrestling is a crazy sport. I grew up armwrestling with my friends and we would go all out and my arm would hurt for days. That was just one match. The Pros have to win 3 out of 5 or 4 out of 7 depending what tournament it is. Guys like Butterbean never would've been famous if they had to fight 12 rounds of boxing. Chaels a wise man.
Chimiev needs a title shot already
MMA math yada yada… but if Khamzat barely handled Usman on a weeks notice, he’s gonna have a very bad time with Rob. And Rob has unreal takedown defense. I predict a masterclass by Bobby Knuckles 👊🏼👊🏼👊🏼
I bet Whitaker bails out, and Bo Nickel steps in. My money is on Bo
Hmm well chimaev needs to do alot what happened to the most active fighter.
im a super fan of chimaev but yea im with bisping i think chimaev has the connor problem first 2 rounds are dynamite after that your biten your nails because hes got nothing left in the tank
Whitaker, a few years ago, maybe. But he just doesn't have that fire in his eyes like he used to
Khamzat went 5 rounds with Usman back in October at 294. It was almost exclusively a grappling match
Was 3 rounds
Anyone else hoping for Chimaev v Bo Nickel one day
I think it would come down to following a good game plan and my opinion is probably Bo wins that
@@matthewlocke9902 i agree ..I think Bo Nickel doesn't deviate from his strategy and Chimaev like his last few fights gets frustrated and tired the longer the fight goes.
Khamzat lost momentum on media for sure, and I think it's because all the confusion about weight class and inactivity was never really explained. He went from fighting 2 weeks in a row, to not knowing if he will fight in one year AND in which weight class it will be. So hard to find a story there. He brings even more by calling out everybody and anybody in all weight classes, while not fighting. I think the only one that can get away with that is Conor.
inactivity and a too many dreams have plagued chimaevs career so far
Yes chimaev gets gassed out, we seen it against burns and usman, they both showed better conditioning as they were not nearly as exhausted as them, usman went up to 185 on short notice and barely lost a very controversial decision, if it went 2 more rounds it would be bad news for Khamzat but Usman looked good.
Dont Jinx it for Whittaker