TF2.....A game I leave for a year, no life for three and repeat. It's amazing. If only the 3 devs and the janitor could work on the game outside of their lunch breaks!
I just recently got back into TF2, the winglet videos peaked my interest, and I wanted to see if it was still around. I'm so glad that it is. And thank you @The Bottom Dweller for making this video.
Really interesting idea. Since Valve isn't going to do anything with TF2 anyway, why don't they turn it into a community-ran game. The TF2 community is dedicated and large and pretty vocal about stuffs. They with discussion, voting, ... I'm sure they will be able to create new weapons, gamemodes, maps, etc added directly to the game.
Yup! I will say there might be times that players may vote on a bad change, as balancing is a lot more difficult than it looks, but I think if we all noticed "ah this weapon is unfun to play against" or "ah this weapon blows chunks" then I think we would eventually get a pretty solid set of weapons. This is in a pipedream world though, but it sure is nice to dream, right?
As much as I am excited for the community gamemodes, there should be a lot more time between each one, and a lot more creative ideas. The reason VSH had such a smooth experience was because it had over a year to develop itself before Valve greenlit the mode to be officially implemented into the game. Zombies, although the idea was perfect, was a ton more rocky due to it only having a few months to develop before Scream Fortress. This resulted in tons of bugs and unbalanced mechanics. Prop Hunt, which seems to be the new mode for Smissmas, seems to be pretty sloppy too, with several classes being able to use their abilities to just unbalance the game and ruin it for the props (such as Demo/Soldiers' AoE damage, Medics totally mitigating the challenge of propchecking, and Engie's sentries being able to see props), and personally boring as an idea (I dont like prop hunt very much), though I havent actually played it sadly. I hope that Valve gives more time between the releases of these modes to make them better refined.
There should be way less seasonal maps, feels like theres too many reskins, and I like much more creative ones. There were also too many contracts, that only a lunatic with too much time on his hands could complete
One more thing, letting the community do all the updates I think would make Valve benefit from Laziness, which is kind of what we were protesting against in the very first place. A lot of the community doesn't completely understand how game balance works too.
@@therealbottomdweller Thanks for responding, I am hoping that the coming summer updates are just as fresh if not more than this year's. I just want the game modes to be less frequent and to have way less seasonal slop for the actual seasonal items.
I would also love if Valve let's the community make an official SFM video with the voice actors. The Medic's VA made his own TF2 series with all the other VA's and it was great! Surely a new video would also bring more people curious about TF2, just like how the Meet the videos and Expiration Date did.
BROTHER HAS BEEN PLAYING FOR 11 YEARS AND DOESNT HAVE A CUSTOM HUD!?! Man id rather get a custom one it changes your gameplay soo much and can or could change your frame rate!
@@therealbottomdweller not only that, but it also puts people who use it into a mindset that prevents them from actually improving at Spy. Cloak and Dagger also does that a bit by turning the game into "waiting for a perfect backstab opportunity for minutes simulator", but at least that's not annoying for the enemy team.
7:00 You can go and play a tf2 mod called "Team Fortress Classic", and by playing on community servers with custom weapons enabled you'll get why this is a very bad idea relatively quickly
I think we should also keep in mind that not everyone is gonna outright make guns busted. Also I knew it was a pipe dream of a point to make! So no worries I agree with you.
@@therealbottomdweller thanks M8, I would like to fight characters like the Christian brutal sniper, Demo Samedi, horseless headless horseman Jr, the administrator herself, painis cupcake, old Nick, that one version of Saxton Hale that is a giant version of the Saxxy statue, rubber fruit, the Vagineer, icy spy, shogun heavy, shinobi pyro, Karate scout, the scombine, creepy medic, heavydile and sewer medic
Cheers mate. Pretty solid video. While im a bit on the fence about new game modes, especially after Zombie Survival was a bit .. out there, and the rushed prophunt looks like absolute trash, I do agree some more control should be put into the communities hands, though its a dangerous line where a vocal minority could have a lot of sway depending on how valve polls for what folks want, or it could lead to someone doing a balance change nobody likes (i.e. bit tf2bers screaming about how bad random crits are when ive seen like 3 polls where the majority either don't care, and its just carving apart the game for no reason), or it could lead to a heap of favoritism
@@therealbottomdweller I agree! I loved zombie survival. Problem is some people are so desperate for new stuff they aren't stopping to think about if it's quality. I appreciate you're seemingly pretty neutral stance. A lot of people are too polarizing one way or the other
Instead of new Weapons, I would prefer we start by trying out the community rebalancing current weapons. Things like the Diamondback and the Gas Passer as a test. Maybe give it a Beta period with special modes to try out the proposed fix for a month or two and then have the community vote on it. Id look to Old School Runescape for how this could work, cuz their voting system has been pretty good.
@@therealbottomdweller It's also easier to modify something that already exists and to change something that's obviously busted. It's basically impossible to break the Gas Passer on accident, so it should be safe to change.
I dont think we need new weapons, just like the clases a set number is fine (maybe, maybe a proyectile weapon for heavy, a railgun or something in the best case scenario), dont make this an overwatch and make more trouble with balancing, instead just make the existing weapons to have a better balance, return the bison to the first stats (higher tick count) return the reduction of damage while spining the natascha and brass beast (without the cap of needing to be -50% of health), also maybe some reskins of weapons (a hamburguer [¿harmburguer?] for sandvich or steak)
I think just giving heavy a few weapons to swap up his playstyle once in a while is literally all this game needs. Right now melting a stick of butter down a hill has more variation and play time than playing heavy.
Eh we all have our quitting times but theres no denying that TF2’s community remains immovable after everything thats happened! Sorry to hear that though, hope you find a game that fits what you need :)! Thanks for watching!
Yeah he doesn't seem too optimistic about the game, I feel differently however! I think the game deserves a little more credit than it gets :). VSH is also very cool! Hoping we get some sort of Smissmass boss this year.
I think instead of new weapons (right off the bat, they could come later down the line), we should work to restore the weapons we already have that were ruined by the Meat your Match update. The venture into competitive TF2 was disastrous and most the things included in Meat your Match significantly impacted the quality of the game from the new matchmaking system which was and still is notoriously bad, to making fun and somewhat viable weapons practically useless and boring all for the sake of a competitive gamemode that nobody plays.
Matchmaking fixes, as good as they are, I couldn't see the community being able to do. That would require knowledge on how valve's server system works, among other things I'm surely overlooking. Though I do agree, it needs fixing FOR SURE!
@@therealbottomdweller A simple reversion back to quickplay rather than matchmaking would be all that’s needed. Quickplay was efficient, fast, and most of all more fun for actually finding and sticking with games. Unlike many features people call for, this is something that’s already been developed. Just needs to be dusted off by Valve and reimplemented. The only issue is that not many people care to talk about it despite the matchmaking being one of the core issues plaguing TF2 since it pretty much started the botpocalypse.
I get your points and where you are coming from, but imo this approach can only work with some crucial steps taken beforehand. Optimization, polishing and fixing the existing content. First off, TF2 runs waaayy too bad for a 16 yo game. An extensive optimization has been due for a long time. If we yearn for new content, we should make sure that the game can handle it. The game is already heavily bloated. This is an issue which is primarily Valve's responsibility, however, we have seen that the community can help with that too. By polishing, I mean tending to the art style of the game. It is very cool that we get a myriad of hats, skins and unusual effects twice a year, but many of these feel out of place. There is a ton of wonderful content out there, I just think that valve should be more attentive while picking it out. A "quality over quantity" policy could do wonders for this. This goes also for the maps, too. Lastly, what I mean by fixing the existing content goes for everything in the game, but here specifically I refer to weapons. There are still a lot of weapons which are either overwhelming or absolutely unfun to play against. If we want new weapons we should make sure to have the already existing ones play perfectly. Two extra steps I find crucial: For the love of god pyro's airblast radius has to be reworked. Why the fuck can they reflects rockets with their asses, or 8 meters away? It's very bad. Also, spy has to be carefully buffed. Idk how valve could go about it, but as it is playing spy is painful as the general skill-ceiling of the game shot through the roof. Peace and love
Yeah that makes sense, but while airblast is a lil strong, its also hard as hell to see its radius in the first place. The new airblast texture is practically invisible (speaking as a pyro main here). I think it needs visual clarity as well. As for weapons, Ill do you one better. I think there are some real busted weapons, but I think a lot more weapons are pretty much unusably bad. So I think we need some weapon reworks in general. Good points though!
@@MrGellert619 Hey no worries! Glad ya enjoyed! If you wanna face pyros, try firing in an unpredictable way (dont blow your whole clip immediately), or use the shotgun which hard counters pyro. Cant airblast bullets lol!
@@therealbottomdweller not to boast, but I'm pretty decent at soldier. I know how to counter pyros, but I think that the range of the airblast is Bs. I mean, they can do it with their ass. C'mon...
@@MrGellert619 I haven't seen what I'm gonna dub "ass blasts" yet in my play time, but I will say that sometimes it does seem like airblast range is bit too wide, so it covers a lot of the body at a shortish range. So I can see how that might happen.
Thank you! I try to make atleast one new pose per video so it sets each video apart from one another without being same-y! Glad you enjoyed the video, hope to catch ya in the next one!
Bots are pretty bad, but they also have gotten a little less terrible now that the biggest botter is behind bars. Turns out that dude was a huge creep too. Wildin stuff. Plus kicking them is easier now, so there's that.
This game does NOT need new weapons. And letting the community make balance changes could be disastrous. Only a few weapons are still out of balance enough to be problematic, which is actually pretty good considering how bad so many were historically. Throwing new ones in and letting the community make changes would throw all that out the window.
I do think we should definitely do a rebalancing of weapons currently in game, as some are outright unfun to play against and others are literally unusably worthless. The game needs new weapons imo for heavy, but I do agree we should probably address the existing weapons first. That being said most changes and fixes have to get approval by the community in the workshop, so I think it wouldn't be that easy to absolutely demolish the game.
Yeah bots are bad, but I was able to play throughout screamfortress with only 2 bot encounters. Im sure community servers will run the new versions of the gamemodes in due time :)
maybe i got unlucky but i think the creator of the bots has a way to make them join certain players more often leading to them not being able to play the game anymore, this is like when they used to set your rank to a huge negative number in cod waw and you could never play again lmao
this game is dead to me due to the lack of updates. unfortunately that means that I have to abandon the entire online fps genre as a whole instead of moving to an other game because tf2 is the only online fps with a soul. single player fps games are the only fps I can play anymore.
Yeah I can sorta understand why you feel that way. The updates are still not quite what we had back in the day. But ay! Atleast we can say the last two updates tried more than they usually do, and the maps that came from them were actually somewhat inspired and fun!
I we’ll said this I play the 2008 the orange box that have Tf2 I be follow the game and follow it rise and fall and Chaos and the Bots invasion And now value try to make the tf2 better and add community. Game mode I’m afraid of that part
@@therealbottomdweller yep but still I afraid of the new Young bloods who join the games and the Ideas of Tf2 only Few people have Braincell who know what to do .
@therealbottomdweller trust me I been in the tf2 community enough to know that more than 55% are quite racist. Plus, we were about to get a prop hunt in a fps. If you want, I suggest you watch Zesty jesus about these topics
@@kingkoopa64 i mean doesnt a lot of gaming communities in general have those folks? Like, gaming seems to adherently bring those types of folks forward. Ill watch that video though
I main demoman and play Loch-n-load, Sticky Jumper and the Pain Train. Pain Train is just for some funny moments as i try to enjoy life in a video game after working for 8 hours.
I dont really like my job but i do what i have to do to get paid. I get paid decently for assisting 8 hours and with that i buy medicine for my dying grandmother. Sometimes i keep a small cut for myself and use it to pay bills, taxes or upgrade my pc.
tf2 community: 'GOOD NEWS! WE ARE NOT DEAD! WE ARE GOING TO LIVE FOREVER!'
I did not say that. I just said we weren't full of tumors!
Oh thank god.. LMAO!
So, Yeah, Mrs. Pauling it's a date!
Actually, this was my only day off this year
Man, the absurd ammount of yimes I laughes with my friends about the bucket scene... and you know what? it never fails to crack us up, NEVER!
Its so brilliantly funny
Most important thing that NEEDS to be worked on is a way of getting rid of these bots.
Yeah, the bots are still an issue. Albeit better now that the main guy is in prison
TF2.....A game I leave for a year, no life for three and repeat. It's amazing. If only the 3 devs and the janitor could work on the game outside of their lunch breaks!
Eh, at least the community is still super passionate about it! Maybe some day team fortress will get something from valve?
I just recently got back into TF2, the winglet videos peaked my interest, and I wanted to see if it was still around. I'm so glad that it is. And thank you @The Bottom Dweller for making this video.
Hey anytime! I like to spread positivity when its earned and I feel these updates earned it! Glad you enjoyed it! I love Winglet’s videos!
If you want a great TF2 movie (yes a full movie) you gotta watch Emisis Blu
If they add in a new MvM tour, (3-6 maps) along with new Australium drops, it would make a huge profit for Valve for sure 😅
Speaking of MvM… stay tuned. :)
Tf2 is a great game and you are making it shine ! Good job and thank you.
Thank you, local Racoon. I will give you an esteemed honey bun for your kind words.
Death: *Kills tf2 and starts taunting*
Tf2:Appears behind her's back with a dead ringer sound (Most likely in t pose)
That sounds in character for the game. Lmao!
Really interesting idea. Since Valve isn't going to do anything with TF2 anyway, why don't they turn it into a community-ran game. The TF2 community is dedicated and large and pretty vocal about stuffs. They with discussion, voting, ... I'm sure they will be able to create new weapons, gamemodes, maps, etc added directly to the game.
Yup! I will say there might be times that players may vote on a bad change, as balancing is a lot more difficult than it looks, but I think if we all noticed "ah this weapon is unfun to play against" or "ah this weapon blows chunks" then I think we would eventually get a pretty solid set of weapons.
This is in a pipedream world though, but it sure is nice to dream, right?
@@therealbottomdweller I mean Valve has always been really open to community stuff so it's at least plausible :))
@@HienNguyen-cs1md True!
Todd Howard: Fallout 76 will be online forever.
Gabe Newell: After nine years in development hopefully it was worth the wait.
Truuue!
As much as I am excited for the community gamemodes, there should be a lot more time between each one, and a lot more creative ideas. The reason VSH had such a smooth experience was because it had over a year to develop itself before Valve greenlit the mode to be officially implemented into the game. Zombies, although the idea was perfect, was a ton more rocky due to it only having a few months to develop before Scream Fortress. This resulted in tons of bugs and unbalanced mechanics. Prop Hunt, which seems to be the new mode for Smissmas, seems to be pretty sloppy too, with several classes being able to use their abilities to just unbalance the game and ruin it for the props (such as Demo/Soldiers' AoE damage, Medics totally mitigating the challenge of propchecking, and Engie's sentries being able to see props), and personally boring as an idea (I dont like prop hunt very much), though I havent actually played it sadly. I hope that Valve gives more time between the releases of these modes to make them better refined.
There should be way less seasonal maps, feels like theres too many reskins, and I like much more creative ones. There were also too many contracts, that only a lunatic with too much time on his hands could complete
Hopefully that new summer update we got becomes a reoccuring thing so we do get non seasonal fresh new ideas!
One more thing, letting the community do all the updates I think would make Valve benefit from Laziness, which is kind of what we were protesting against in the very first place. A lot of the community doesn't completely understand how game balance works too.
@@beholdthegoober Yeah no I get it, but if they arent gonna work on it I think itd be better to give it to the people that do
@@therealbottomdweller Thanks for responding, I am hoping that the coming summer updates are just as fresh if not more than this year's. I just want the game modes to be less frequent and to have way less seasonal slop for the actual seasonal items.
I would also love if Valve let's the community make an official SFM video with the voice actors. The Medic's VA made his own TF2 series with all the other VA's and it was great! Surely a new video would also bring more people curious about TF2, just like how the Meet the videos and Expiration Date did.
I agree a new SFM would be so cool!
HOW ARE YOU THIS UNDERRATED???? Great stuff man!!!!!
Thank you dude! I dunno, algorithm shenanigans? It be how it is sometimes! Glad you enjoyed and I hope to catch ya next time!
@therealbottomdweller yea weird algorithm stuff sucks ik. Again great video man!!!!
BROTHER HAS BEEN PLAYING FOR 11 YEARS AND DOESNT HAVE A CUSTOM HUD!?!
Man id rather get a custom one it changes your gameplay soo much and can or could change your frame rate!
Guess I never felt a need for one. Default is serviceable. Never had one tho, so maybe I’ll look!
Ya make compelling points
Rick may have been proud of us
He was good, real good. Maybe even the best. Miss the dude
If we ever get community balance changes, we really need a rework of stuff like the Dead Ringer.
Fully agree, it made playing spy brainless. Im still not good as spy, but it got me a kill as spy which isnt allowed
@@therealbottomdweller not only that, but it also puts people who use it into a mindset that prevents them from actually improving at Spy. Cloak and Dagger also does that a bit by turning the game into "waiting for a perfect backstab opportunity for minutes simulator", but at least that's not annoying for the enemy team.
@@madengineerkyouma Honestly Cloak and Dagger is based and funny when used right.
have you seen the r/tf2 and weapon ideas? HAVE YOU SEEN THEM!? only a madman would allow such a disaster.
Thats why I prefaced it with it requires a perfect world for it to work lol!
7:00 You can go and play a tf2 mod called "Team Fortress Classic", and by playing on community servers with custom weapons enabled you'll get why this is a very bad idea relatively quickly
I think we should also keep in mind that not everyone is gonna outright make guns busted. Also I knew it was a pipe dream of a point to make! So no worries I agree with you.
Hopefully we even get freak fortress 2 bosses as Vs Hale bosses too, who else here wants it to happen?
Oh I definitely do!
@@therealbottomdweller thanks M8, I would like to fight characters like the Christian brutal sniper, Demo Samedi, horseless headless horseman Jr, the administrator herself, painis cupcake, old Nick, that one version of Saxton Hale that is a giant version of the Saxxy statue, rubber fruit, the Vagineer, icy spy, shogun heavy, shinobi pyro, Karate scout, the scombine, creepy medic, heavydile and sewer medic
Been here sence 2011 rookies Im Grizzled Veteran Rocket Jumper ❤
And still playing it 😊
Could never learn how to rocket jump, but trying to was a lot of fun! I can see why you do it!
Wait until the community adds the fabled 10th class Madcap!
New 10th class, the gamer. Primary: Gamer Supps Sponsorship.
The bots have become a problem again, though. Valve doesn’t care about their game enough.
The bots are an issue but communirt servers remain strong and well maintained. Also, the bots have died down since that major botter got arrested.
@@therealbottomdweller I've noticed over half of the games I'm in have new bots. It may be a Virginia server issue though.
“Go home, go to bed” *memory unlocked*
Hell yeah, now I am rent free in your memory! >:D
I do miss when they could do skits, but I know why
@@blanck7457 yeah, its a shame we wont get those again. But they were certainly memorable while they lasted right?
@@therealbottomdweller yeah
1:11 dear god
There's more!
Put the medic in the pit 😂lol
Love medics but theyre such an easy target on lava pit.
I'd give valve some slack, mainly because there's only one person actually assigned to TF2.
Sadly true.
The tf2 subreddit nearly every post 1:08
Sounds bout right!
This video feels like it comes from a massive tf2 youtuber,like actually, keep up the great work man!
Thank ya! I’ll keep doin my best!
I agree with this statement.
@@therealbottomdwellerYeah!
Cheers mate. Pretty solid video. While im a bit on the fence about new game modes, especially after Zombie Survival was a bit .. out there, and the rushed prophunt looks like absolute trash, I do agree some more control should be put into the communities hands, though its a dangerous line where a vocal minority could have a lot of sway depending on how valve polls for what folks want, or it could lead to someone doing a balance change nobody likes (i.e. bit tf2bers screaming about how bad random crits are when ive seen like 3 polls where the majority either don't care, and its just carving apart the game for no reason), or it could lead to a heap of favoritism
I dont think prophunt should make it, and while zombie survival was out there, it fit halloween imo. Well put points though!
@@therealbottomdweller I agree! I loved zombie survival. Problem is some people are so desperate for new stuff they aren't stopping to think about if it's quality. I appreciate you're seemingly pretty neutral stance. A lot of people are too polarizing one way or the other
subscribed, im surprised you don't have more subscribers with this video quality
Ay, with the support yall have given me lately thats progressively getting better! Thank ya so much, hope to see ya again soon!
finally someone not trying to downplay how important the #savetf2 protest was
It was the single most important thing to happen in the recent years for tf2!
I see high quiality video right here fellas
Why thank you! I try my best!
Imma watch this channel grow like the like my crippling crate addiction
Felt that! Lmao! Used to have one myself! Glad you enjoyed, Hope to see ya next time!
Team Fortress 2 is immortal (on life support without a DNR)
TF2 has Gray mann’s immortality device.
It's a pretty bold video
I kinda like it
Thank ya! I thought so lol
Valve, make tf2 community-managed game and keep on profiting from cosmetics even harder. Sounds good to me
As much as Id love Valve themselves to make an update, this is the only realistic future I see for the game.
Instead of new Weapons, I would prefer we start by trying out the community rebalancing current weapons. Things like the Diamondback and the Gas Passer as a test. Maybe give it a Beta period with special modes to try out the proposed fix for a month or two and then have the community vote on it.
Id look to Old School Runescape for how this could work, cuz their voting system has been pretty good.
Not a bad idea imo! Starting with balance first can get people acclimated to what a good and bad change looks like!
@@therealbottomdweller It's also easier to modify something that already exists and to change something that's obviously busted.
It's basically impossible to break the Gas Passer on accident, so it should be safe to change.
We’re in a tf2 renaissance, no matter what bitter old men tftubers say
I agree! I think we're in a new wave of good stuff coming to the game and I can't wait to see what the next update will bring.
TFTuber NOT SAYING THE GAME IS TIMELESS CHALENGE (IMPOSSIBLE) 😱
I did it though! :D Im the best!
@@therealbottomdweller yaaaaay!!
Awsome video you are quite underrated for the quality of the video
I appreciate the kind words! I try me best on the videos! Glad you enjoyed, and I hope to catch ya next time!
i can tell you play a lot of pyro
Came for Pyro, Stayed for Pyro! I blame the meet the class vid on that one.
@@therealbottomdwellernice
I dont think we need new weapons, just like the clases a set number is fine (maybe, maybe a proyectile weapon for heavy, a railgun or something in the best case scenario), dont make this an overwatch and make more trouble with balancing, instead just make the existing weapons to have a better balance, return the bison to the first stats (higher tick count) return the reduction of damage while spining the natascha and brass beast (without the cap of needing to be -50% of health), also maybe some reskins of weapons (a hamburguer [¿harmburguer?] for sandvich or steak)
I think just giving heavy a few weapons to swap up his playstyle once in a while is literally all this game needs. Right now melting a stick of butter down a hill has more variation and play time than playing heavy.
@@therealbottomdwellerTf2 is only fun if you play with people you know
@@UlsterLoyalist70 I dunno, seeing an enemy land in the family guy death pose after getting ass blasted by a rocket Is always great.
Great video, the new updates have given me some hope for TF2 :)
Love the vid!! Keep posting!
Thank you! Will do!
Tf2 died to me in 2018
Eh we all have our quitting times but theres no denying that TF2’s community remains immovable after everything thats happened! Sorry to hear that though, hope you find a game that fits what you need :)! Thanks for watching!
Ok i think olny way tf2 could "Die" Is valve deaing
Hey mate, great video. Real surprised you dont have more subscribers. 🐟
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it!
Zesty Jesus saying otherwise.
I like VSH, it's cool.
Yeah he doesn't seem too optimistic about the game, I feel differently however! I think the game deserves a little more credit than it gets :).
VSH is also very cool! Hoping we get some sort of Smissmass boss this year.
Zesty did show a really cool Krampus boss in his video so he's hopeful at least. He just doesn't want TF2 to become Gmod lite.@@therealbottomdweller
@@rockowlgamer631 Oh I dont want it to either. Gmod’s fun but keep it out of my TF2.
I think instead of new weapons (right off the bat, they could come later down the line), we should work to restore the weapons we already have that were ruined by the Meat your Match update. The venture into competitive TF2 was disastrous and most the things included in Meat your Match significantly impacted the quality of the game from the new matchmaking system which was and still is notoriously bad, to making fun and somewhat viable weapons practically useless and boring all for the sake of a competitive gamemode that nobody plays.
Especially pomson and bison
Matchmaking fixes, as good as they are, I couldn't see the community being able to do. That would require knowledge on how valve's server system works, among other things I'm surely overlooking. Though I do agree, it needs fixing FOR SURE!
@@therealbottomdweller A simple reversion back to quickplay rather than matchmaking would be all that’s needed. Quickplay was efficient, fast, and most of all more fun for actually finding and sticking with games. Unlike many features people call for, this is something that’s already been developed. Just needs to be dusted off by Valve and reimplemented. The only issue is that not many people care to talk about it despite the matchmaking being one of the core issues plaguing TF2 since it pretty much started the botpocalypse.
I love this video
Glad ya liked it!
I get your points and where you are coming from, but imo this approach can only work with some crucial steps taken beforehand.
Optimization, polishing and fixing the existing content.
First off, TF2 runs waaayy too bad for a 16 yo game. An extensive optimization has been due for a long time. If we yearn for new content, we should make sure that the game can handle it. The game is already heavily bloated. This is an issue which is primarily Valve's responsibility, however, we have seen that the community can help with that too.
By polishing, I mean tending to the art style of the game. It is very cool that we get a myriad of hats, skins and unusual effects twice a year, but many of these feel out of place. There is a ton of wonderful content out there, I just think that valve should be more attentive while picking it out. A "quality over quantity" policy could do wonders for this. This goes also for the maps, too.
Lastly, what I mean by fixing the existing content goes for everything in the game, but here specifically I refer to weapons. There are still a lot of weapons which are either overwhelming or absolutely unfun to play against. If we want new weapons we should make sure to have the already existing ones play perfectly.
Two extra steps I find crucial:
For the love of god pyro's airblast radius has to be reworked. Why the fuck can they reflects rockets with their asses, or 8 meters away? It's very bad.
Also, spy has to be carefully buffed. Idk how valve could go about it, but as it is playing spy is painful as the general skill-ceiling of the game shot through the roof.
Peace and love
Yeah that makes sense, but while airblast is a lil strong, its also hard as hell to see its radius in the first place. The new airblast texture is practically invisible (speaking as a pyro main here). I think it needs visual clarity as well. As for weapons, Ill do you one better. I think there are some real busted weapons, but I think a lot more weapons are pretty much unusably bad. So I think we need some weapon reworks in general. Good points though!
@@therealbottomdweller fair
I m a y be a lil too butthurt about the airblast radius cuz I'm a soldier main lol
Great vid btw!
@@MrGellert619 Hey no worries! Glad ya enjoyed! If you wanna face pyros, try firing in an unpredictable way (dont blow your whole clip immediately), or use the shotgun which hard counters pyro. Cant airblast bullets lol!
@@therealbottomdweller not to boast, but I'm pretty decent at soldier. I know how to counter pyros, but I think that the range of the airblast is Bs. I mean, they can do it with their ass. C'mon...
@@MrGellert619 I haven't seen what I'm gonna dub "ass blasts" yet in my play time, but I will say that sometimes it does seem like airblast range is bit too wide, so it covers a lot of the body at a shortish range. So I can see how that might happen.
I appreciate your goober lil character lmao
Thank you! I try to make atleast one new pose per video so it sets each video apart from one another without being same-y! Glad you enjoyed the video, hope to catch ya in the next one!
what about mvm ?
No worries! Ive got something cooking up regarding mvm, stay tuned ;)
No it's just not filled with tumors (no it is, bots)
Bots are pretty bad, but they also have gotten a little less terrible now that the biggest botter is behind bars. Turns out that dude was a huge creep too. Wildin stuff.
Plus kicking them is easier now, so there's that.
This game does NOT need new weapons. And letting the community make balance changes could be disastrous. Only a few weapons are still out of balance enough to be problematic, which is actually pretty good considering how bad so many were historically. Throwing new ones in and letting the community make changes would throw all that out the window.
I do think we should definitely do a rebalancing of weapons currently in game, as some are outright unfun to play against and others are literally unusably worthless. The game needs new weapons imo for heavy, but I do agree we should probably address the existing weapons first.
That being said most changes and fixes have to get approval by the community in the workshop, so I think it wouldn't be that easy to absolutely demolish the game.
Too bad you can't play the new updates for more than half of the first day before the bots take over
Yeah bots are bad, but I was able to play throughout screamfortress with only 2 bot encounters. Im sure community servers will run the new versions of the gamemodes in due time :)
maybe i got unlucky but i think the creator of the bots has a way to make them join certain players more often leading to them not being able to play the game anymore, this is like when they used to set your rank to a huge negative number in cod waw and you could never play again lmao
@@dipnip7021 dunno about that part right yet, but I will say one of the major botters is now in prison. So theres that
Tf2 will outlast me 💀💀💀
Itll outlast the sun
this game is dead to me due to the lack of updates.
unfortunately that means that I have to abandon the entire online fps genre as a whole instead of moving to an other game because tf2 is the only online fps with a soul.
single player fps games are the only fps I can play anymore.
Yeah I can sorta understand why you feel that way. The updates are still not quite what we had back in the day. But ay! Atleast we can say the last two updates tried more than they usually do, and the maps that came from them were actually somewhat inspired and fun!
you are funny man i subbed
Thank ya! Glad you enjoyed!
I we’ll said this I play the 2008 the orange box that have Tf2 I be follow the game and follow it rise and fall and Chaos and the Bots invasion
And now value try to make the tf2 better and add community. Game mode I’m afraid of that part
Yo all the way from the orange box?! Thats a lot of history!
@@therealbottomdweller yep but still I afraid of the new Young bloods who join the games and the Ideas of Tf2 only Few people have Braincell who know what to do .
I like TF2 I think it's fun and funny :)
True!
Oh yea You Probably best artist i saw Basic But Not that basic to be boring
Thank ya!
Good vid tho
Thank ya!
"Tf2 gonna live forever"
Tf2 rn: literally slowly dying from over the top cosmetic, racist community, and over bloated gamemodes
I can understand that first one but those last two issues ive rarely ever experienced
@therealbottomdweller trust me I been in the tf2 community enough to know that more than 55% are quite racist. Plus, we were about to get a prop hunt in a fps. If you want, I suggest you watch Zesty jesus about these topics
@@kingkoopa64 i mean doesnt a lot of gaming communities in general have those folks? Like, gaming seems to adherently bring those types of folks forward. Ill watch that video though
@@therealbottomdweller yes. But tf2 one is like cracked up to 11
@@kingkoopa64 I think Rust has this game beat by a landslide regarding that side of gaming.
Yipeeee🎉🎉🎉🎉
Youre annoying but i like the video, it gives me hope
8:49 I KNEW IT WAS GOING TO BE SOMETHING ANNOYING
Brother still runs scorch shot.. you are the reason atleast like 1 or 2 people quit.
Yeah I do! Its really funny. But in all seriousness despite what the footage shows I actually use the Panic Attack WAAAAY more
I main demoman and play Loch-n-load, Sticky Jumper and the Pain Train. Pain Train is just for some funny moments as i try to enjoy life in a video game after working for 8 hours.
@@sillydoug relatable! 8 hour workshift crew!
I dont really like my job but i do what i have to do to get paid. I get paid decently for assisting 8 hours and with that i buy medicine for my dying grandmother. Sometimes i keep a small cut for myself and use it to pay bills, taxes or upgrade my pc.