Side Control Escape - Most common mistakes

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  • These are some of the most common mistakes I see people make when trying to escape side control. Comment and let me know your questions.
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  • @Zorlag
    @Zorlag 6 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    You're great, dude. You're filling in these gaps of knowledge that my instructor doesn't teach.

    • @marcusfamo8154
      @marcusfamo8154 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      PREACH!!

    • @crispycronch
      @crispycronch 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same

    • @Aceinthehole1179
      @Aceinthehole1179 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes!! It’s crazy , but yes.. You always get fundamentals in class, but no details like this. I’m a white belt & I keep my left leg on the floor! This is huge info.. I love this Channel!

    • @blazingxflame
      @blazingxflame ปีที่แล้ว

      I don’t even have a fundamentals. Which is why I’m only doing the week long free trial.

  • @porkysugrim
    @porkysugrim 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Im so glad I found this video.
    1) blocking their hip so they can’t follow
    2) tacking your other foot off the floor so you can bring the knee in
    Such good advise!

  • @Testeverything521
    @Testeverything521 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh man, I totally recover that weak version of the guard you warn about at 3:15.

  • @DaveLowenstein
    @DaveLowenstein 5 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    7 dislikes are still stuck in side control :)

  • @magik1204
    @magik1204 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best professor on TH-cam!

  • @Caleb-mj5cn
    @Caleb-mj5cn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Using the elbow to prevent them from following, and getting the leg out are👌🏻. Solved the two issues I’ve been having

  • @Sam7x57
    @Sam7x57 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is so much more helpful than 3 moves and roll. These concepts are what people need the most.

  • @rubenzs3161
    @rubenzs3161 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    this is exactly what i needed even though i didn't realized it up until watching the video

  • @mmaman6931
    @mmaman6931 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rewatched this vid multiple times - thanks for your help dude

  • @Jinjoooo
    @Jinjoooo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Out of all the defensive techniques for bjj I've seen, this is one of the best.

  • @rws177dd
    @rws177dd 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    It's funny what "nuggets" of information stick with you thru the course of this jiujitsu journey. I still remember you teaching a Friday night class in St. Louis when I was a no stripe white belt about 8yrs ago and you told me that you view having your guard passed in competition as "death" and to do everything you can to stop it. Well I have "died" many of times in competition over the years but that advice has always stuck with me. Thanks for posting this video and sharing. I'll be thinking of these details tonight in class.

    • @borntobe4419
      @borntobe4419 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      What Academy is this? I'll be in the St. Louis area (St Charles) this weekend. Would love to catch a class

  • @rokanfiction-benjackson7146
    @rokanfiction-benjackson7146 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you professor, for not taking anything for granted and explaining the little details

  • @nicocontreras5366
    @nicocontreras5366 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I started in judo too and still find it hard to escape side control , this video helps a lot, thank´s.

  • @Whisky148
    @Whisky148 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    White belt here. Thank you. You have helped me out so much. My jiu-jitsu is so much better after watching your videos.

  • @Slashoom
    @Slashoom 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Unless your arm breaks, that's a different problem LOL

  • @mikeanderson3315
    @mikeanderson3315 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So happy to have found your content. Been watching your gaurd retention stuff on grapplers guide and it's improved my game tons. Thank you!

  • @orangeInc311
    @orangeInc311 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Only one word to describe this: wow. Thanks so much for uploading this exquisite content for free!

  • @ryfree
    @ryfree 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic, thank you Jon!

  • @doubletee9000
    @doubletee9000 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    These are some very helpful tips and you explain it well in this format. I really hope to see more videos of this quality on your channel.

  • @ChrisHickmanstl
    @ChrisHickmanstl 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, thanks for the info!!!!

  • @user-hd9fy3dj5y
    @user-hd9fy3dj5y 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Solved my confusion, you are a great guy Jon

    • @JonThomasBJJ
      @JonThomasBJJ  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      黄科 No Problem happy it helped buddy!

    • @user-hd9fy3dj5y
      @user-hd9fy3dj5y 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JonThomasBJJ Thank you!

  • @desmundreid3368
    @desmundreid3368 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Those fraiming details are very good! That kick also has saved my Guard in competition before. Great video!

  • @EngineersApproachBJJ
    @EngineersApproachBJJ 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is dope! Learn it from the best.

  • @canada_rye
    @canada_rye 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome tips! Thanks so much!

  • @ansborromeo7470
    @ansborromeo7470 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    thanks for the tips for little guys!

  • @user-gg3jd8km3l
    @user-gg3jd8km3l 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great tip! Thx for share your technique

  • @jasond6602
    @jasond6602 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good details!!! Thanks, I'm glad I found your channel!

  • @stephenrogalla2108
    @stephenrogalla2108 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you nailed every single mistake i have been making. thank you

  • @ConcealedSteel
    @ConcealedSteel 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is awesome, thank you!

  • @TheLocomatic
    @TheLocomatic 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow!! This is PURE GOLD!!

  • @MikeVieira
    @MikeVieira 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! Thank you!

  • @sac2marin
    @sac2marin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Amazing attention to detail, I’m definitely trying this! On your next vid, can you show the move once or twice all the way through so we can get some idea of what it would look like live? Thanks for posting

  • @richarddukard8989
    @richarddukard8989 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please keep making videos! These are awesome!

  • @JamezAdam
    @JamezAdam 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great Tutorial 👊

  • @jordanburton1519
    @jordanburton1519 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the best side control escapr material I have ever seen. The first detail about the elbow frame is the same Xande stresses in his "Frame-Shield-Peddle" system. Defensively responsibility is essential to good bjj.

  • @sfcxxv8319
    @sfcxxv8319 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    fantastic, a summary of my common errorrs

  • @porkysugrim
    @porkysugrim 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video thank you!

  • @skrumian
    @skrumian 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the detailed explanation!

  • @djactur
    @djactur 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Jon - Just want to say I really love your videos, am a hugggge fan of your channel. Very detailed mechanism and it has changed my game for the better.

  • @jam7952
    @jam7952 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great details! Thank you for sharing 😁

  • @saadbenchalal935
    @saadbenchalal935 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    love your stuff . I'm subscribing.

  • @selfuncovered8422
    @selfuncovered8422 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks so much for your video Jon they are the best instructionals I have seen on TH-cam. I would love to see how you escape side control when you are fully smashed and your arms are out of position, how you escape mount and what your strategy is from closed guard as I can't seem to get anything to work in these positions against anyone other than beginners. Thanks again, Stevie

  • @Max-kj3gm
    @Max-kj3gm ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this video!

  • @Frank44060
    @Frank44060 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video is pure gold. So many important details. Wow. Thanks!

  • @kameronoleary9262
    @kameronoleary9262 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow I just found your channel and watched 3 videos I already love it. Subscribed

  • @genarohernandezjr.6589
    @genarohernandezjr.6589 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much! Tonight I ran into this problem of my bottom leg being stuck. And you are right, I couldn't attack from guard when my leg was stuck. This video is very helpful to me. Thank you!

  • @superherokids5584
    @superherokids5584 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks so much Jonathon for these details. I have had several instructors who showed this but didn't give the important details to make it work.

  • @JoseDiaz-iq4rf
    @JoseDiaz-iq4rf 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you! This video was so useful. Subscribed!

  • @tito8919
    @tito8919 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    lovin ur vids man

  • @zachz129
    @zachz129 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic video

  • @okinawajapan1
    @okinawajapan1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best explanation I've seen yet. Especially for us smaller guys. Thank you. Great tips.

  • @TheEisforawesome
    @TheEisforawesome 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a great breakdown. Thank you!

    • @JonThomasBJJ
      @JonThomasBJJ  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No problem buddy happy to help!

  • @jamessnell4756
    @jamessnell4756 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for your help mate, i will try to use this to improve my no gi game

  • @SUELEE623
    @SUELEE623 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am still fairly new. My leg always gets trapped or difficult to get out. I am so happy I saw this video cuz I am surely putting that to use. Thank you so much for this tutorial. Oh and for the advice on the framing position of the arm. I usually use my hand to push and waste a lot of energy. Thanks again:)

  • @amirkazemi2517
    @amirkazemi2517 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thank you so much for this - I forget all of my escapes & its because of my hand positions. I make all of these mistakes - I do not use my elbow to frame the neck, I hug the under pass, or I grab around the neck, making them tighter. I also leave my foot on the ground & cant get my knee in as a result. excellent video. Finally :)

  • @michaelcomer1645
    @michaelcomer1645 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I will 100% work on this all week

  • @theticoboy
    @theticoboy 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the best videos on this topic out there. All your videos are like only 5 minutes but they are jam packed with gems. Your BJJ IQ is off the charts.

    • @JonThomasBJJ
      @JonThomasBJJ  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      theticoboy Thanks buddy really appreciate the compliments

  • @theFormidable1
    @theFormidable1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks again I'll try this next class

  • @alfiesolomon3531
    @alfiesolomon3531 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    OMG that was eye opening!!!! All the wrong things i am doing and actual solution so clearly explained. Thx! Can't wait to go to the gym try those tonight!!! P.S: I subscribed instantly

  • @2Point
    @2Point 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This may very well be one of the greatest BJJ videos on all of TH-cam, for a radically undertrained defensive position. Well done, I’ll work it.

    • @JonThomasBJJ
      @JonThomasBJJ  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks buddy, basic escape mechanics are essential and some of these small details can change everything!

  • @wattwatt9838
    @wattwatt9838 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video osssss

  • @AnthonyDonnellyTT
    @AnthonyDonnellyTT 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Liked and subbed brother. Very useful advice. Will definitely try this... Oss!

  • @akamai25
    @akamai25 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jon - saw some guy (Invisible Jiu Jitsu) upload a video with the same similar concept about using the elbow vs hand framing. Fundamentals/concepts don't change so probably just a coincidence but I just thought it was funny when I saw his video today and thought to myself "I just saw that on Jon's channel". He doesn't have your other details :) Keep up the good work!

  • @Aaron8d8
    @Aaron8d8 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just discovered your page. Loving it. Thanks so much!

    • @JonThomasBJJ
      @JonThomasBJJ  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aaron Seskin Thanks! Happy you enjoy it!

  • @GamingLoadown101
    @GamingLoadown101 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nailed it

  • @jg1000c
    @jg1000c 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting, just taught keeping the foot on the mat to keep from getting smashed flat again. Will play with this.

  • @GUTOMOFFICIAL
    @GUTOMOFFICIAL 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for this! I'm a white belt Day 4

  • @frankysharpp
    @frankysharpp 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you!

  • @IsaiahLordPrince
    @IsaiahLordPrince 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very cool man I just started bjj thanks

  • @andrewbrown6512
    @andrewbrown6512 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jon, as always, I love the videos, QUESTION THOUGH.
    In addition to seeing the hand on the hip, I often see instructions that say to frame on the inside of the opponent's underhooking arm, and this helps to create more space, I think this can be exemplified when you see the "stone squirrel" pose.
    This could be that you were showing the position after an individual has already been smashed, rather than preemptive framing. However, when it comes to getting your guard back, do you prefer the forearm on the hip or a frame on the inside of the arm?
    Which is easier and why?

  • @alonsofernandez3156
    @alonsofernandez3156 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome

  • @belatorius3442
    @belatorius3442 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    holy shit. This is going to help so much.

    • @belatorius3442
      @belatorius3442 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No lie, since iv found your channel (thanks reddit), all my training partners are wondering how i'v improved so quickly. Of course I tell them about your channel.

  • @TonyRotella
    @TonyRotella 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wow, this is awesome - I have been a fan of your stuff (similar games and body types) for a long time, and was just thinking, "Whatever happened to Jonathan Thomas?" like a month ago when searching for new vids to watch. Keep it up, the details here were excellent! You've got a great mind for BJJ! ;)

    • @JonThomasBJJ
      @JonThomasBJJ  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Tony Rotella thanks buddy! Yup I’m still around. Will be at worlds this year for sure! Saw you have a chess page that’s awesome I use to play at clubs a bit when I was younger.

    • @TonyRotella
      @TonyRotella 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Will trade private lessons any time! ;)

    • @JonThomasBJJ
      @JonThomasBJJ  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tony Rotella if you are ever in the same city I will take you up on that offer

    • @theticoboy
      @theticoboy 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      JonThomasBJJ - cool to hear you’re a chess fan. BJJ is physical chess!

  • @jesseascriven
    @jesseascriven 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great Video! Do you have something that explains the breakdown of going against larger guys and how/when to switch to different guards? For instance maybe go from Spider, De la Riva, Half Guard to Full guard and when and why you would do that. Thanks!

    • @JonThomasBJJ
      @JonThomasBJJ  6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      jesseascriven This is a great question! I am very big on conceptual teaching. I will do a video soon talking about the importance of strategy in choosing what position you play. This will also include details on grip fighting and how to know what is the right guard to choose for the situation depending on opponent size skills and your own. Thanks for the question!

  • @ultrapaintpros4288
    @ultrapaintpros4288 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you make a video on things to do after breaking the closed guard?

  • @hamzamuraj
    @hamzamuraj 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video. Follow up question. Can you address how to get back into proper framing position after you do mess up as you showed in the video?

    • @JonThomasBJJ
      @JonThomasBJJ  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      hamzamuraj Yes great question I can definitely do a video on trying to re-establish your frames once you mess up. Although a large portion of the problem when that happens is pre emptive mistakes.

  • @ronniepage9242
    @ronniepage9242 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "JON THOMAS! GET DOWN HERE YOU SEXY MAN!" - Kyle Watson
    😂

  • @Decotiiscomedy
    @Decotiiscomedy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Could you do a collar sleeve tutorial please? Thank you.

  • @wingofcuriosity3796
    @wingofcuriosity3796 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What do you do if the guy on top smashes your frame with the right elbow on the far-side hip? Seems like it'd be fairly easy to get rid of that frame if he puts all his weight on it

  • @hippoyell
    @hippoyell 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow! I didn't realize Chip from The Mick rolled. AND HE'S A BLACK BELT

  • @305tactical
    @305tactical 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is some great details, things those bootleg schools don't teach because their curriculum is outdated

  • @ryansong6276
    @ryansong6276 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jon thanks again for the content, I notice you don't really seem to bridge first before shrimping, is that just because you were demonstrating, or is escaping for you more about getting your hips out of the space to get the knee in? The escapes I've been taught all involve bridging so I just wanted to see if I was missing something. Thanks again.

  • @kofidebrah7594
    @kofidebrah7594 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks

  • @ericwong3936
    @ericwong3936 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jon, thanks for your great content. Questions for your technique: do you bridge first before shrimping out or do you just set up your frames to keep your opponent in place and then shrimp out? Also, with this technique, do you have a focus on getting onto your side first or does it not matter?

    • @JonThomasBJJ
      @JonThomasBJJ  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Eric Wong I generally bridge in the less fatale style control I don’t bridge in the classic side escape position I show here

  • @Dustyaguas
    @Dustyaguas 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    DonaHugeCock hair on fleek

  • @wimblybimbly6017
    @wimblybimbly6017 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey Jon, are you able to give any advice on preventing injuries? Any positions to avoid? It seems that framing can be hard on the shoulders. How do you use shoulder movements safely?

    • @JonThomasBJJ
      @JonThomasBJJ  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      WimblyBimbly I think strength training is very important for injury prevention. As far as the framing I think using your elbows to frame more than your hands and wrists like I show in the video will save you a lot of damage to the elbows. I have personally never had shoulder problems from framing, but it’s possible I guess. Let me know how it works for you over time and if you start to develop shoulder pain. Thanks for feedback

  • @benpurcell591
    @benpurcell591 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi Jon, I have a question. With the arm framing against his neck/shoulder, do you need to worry much about being Americana'd? Especially against bigger, stockier guys. It's a problem I sometimes run into when using that frame, am I doing something wrong? Or against bigger guys would you use a different frame? Also because the hand is so far over the guys shoulder it's hard to tuck under his arm if he tries to reach over and isolate it.

    • @JonThomasBJJ
      @JonThomasBJJ  6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ben Purcell if your arm is framed properly it’s really difficult for him to try that. Also he has to back up kind of to go for that and if you are framed well when he tries you should be able to eacapd

  • @irinafirman8959
    @irinafirman8959 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Jon. thank you for your videos. they help us to improve our BJJ. Can you do some video explaining how to do sparring with bigger people o more strenghtfull than us?

  • @EmiRecord
    @EmiRecord 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What if the opponent circles and goes to north-south and/or to the other side?

  • @kameronoleary9262
    @kameronoleary9262 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you do a video on your views of how to shrimp out of the elbow push side control escape? I can get the elbow/arm pushed out pretty frequently but then the person is just so heavy on my legs I can't shrimp out or back out at all.

    • @theticoboy
      @theticoboy 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kameron O'Leary - I have that same problem. Not sure if you are getting up on to your elbow but that is huge. I have found timing to also be critical. In other words, once you elbow push you sponsor have to start shrimping immediately.

  • @ilxyaeger
    @ilxyaeger 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    seriously, your the best thing that has happened to the internets since meme

  • @hassanesdaile3671
    @hassanesdaile3671 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m used to the long hair bro 😆. How old are you in this one? Anyhow, another amazing 💎, Ty so much!!

    • @JonThomasBJJ
      @JonThomasBJJ  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you lol! This is like 4 years old so like 32 lol

  • @anilyzerr
    @anilyzerr 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    good

  • @mantas9826
    @mantas9826 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've started to get the knee in with these details but they always just start spinning to north/south and it stops my escape. What should I focus on to prevent that?

  • @mickee130530
    @mickee130530 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ska bli intressant att följa youtube kanalen =) keep it up

  • @DJHackeras
    @DJHackeras 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Isnt the position of your right arm a bit dangerous for your elbow(the arm you put on his belly), especially if the guy that tries to pass is a heavy strong dude?

  • @theticoboy
    @theticoboy 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have been working this a lot in training and having mire and more success. One issue I am having is getting my frame on the far hip like at about the 2 min mark of the video. Seems like he is way high up on you to get your elbow in that position. I find myself where my opponent is not too low and not quite that high so it makes getting my elbow in that position on that far hip a bit awkward. Anyone suggestions on that?

  • @patrickhertling2445
    @patrickhertling2445 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have you been watching my mistakes? :D

  • @user-rd4th3io6u
    @user-rd4th3io6u 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ❤️❤️❤️👍

  • @arashooo
    @arashooo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow, like he might be the cutest ginger in BJJ 😍