I was having brain fog , fatigue , nasal congestion & sore muscles. Quit taking statins after finding out that these are side effects of the drug and decided to eat healthier and get more exercise. Those side effects have gone away and I feel MUCH better.
I exercised daily. All day, every day. Took 10mg of statin. (Cut a pill in half). Dr switched me to avorastatin. Joints & muscles started aching. To be honest I ate grapefruit too. I quit both. After a couple of years on ruvastatin the aching is going away. Statin is the only meds I take.
Exactly the same thing is happening to me and these statins are made by physer cause of this I haven't taken the second and third vaccines don't know if I should
My own personal take on it: A close friend who is also a doctor told me (as my parents were aging), "Do not let any doctor put your parents on statins. In all the years I've been practicing, any time a patient has started statins (he doesn't prescribe, but evidently others do), it's a downward decline in their health and then shortly thereafter, death. I've never seen statins make anyone better. Ever." And he's been a doctor for decades.
It's interesting that you say that because I recently stopped taking statins for a couple of weeks, and when I started again I noticed my angina getting worse.
We have to be our own doctor I eat jungle oats in boiling water and banana and grated apples with a little milk or sour milk am loosing weight too fruits and veggies and green juices celery spinach cucumber take vitamin D3 WITH COMPLETE MENS VITAMIN COD LIVER OIL THIS IS WHAT I AM DOING HAVE TO EXPERIMENT DRINK WATER
Been on statins for 28 years. Doing great at 73. Run 3 marathons a year. Zero side affects so far. Hypertension was 195/110. Now 128/ 74 avg with statins and exercise and diet. Hypertension can be genetics if it wasn’t for statins id been dead a long time ago.
Immense muscular degeneration to the point of being sent to the ER. I could not walk or raise my arms. The E.R. told me to return to my PCP and tell them that they are killing me. Three months on Statins and three months of reduced to near crippling of muscles. I was lucky to recover.
High cholesterol doesn't mean disease, but most doctors have a knee-jerk response to cholesterol & will prescribe statins for you. God bless you and keep you well.🇭🇲
That should tell you something. Send the statins to hell where they belong. Find another doctor that isn't trying to kill you by making another dollar for Big Pharma.
@@jackfanning7952 I have found around where I live, all of the 'doctors' are big pharma drug dealers. I also found out if I go to another doctor, they have what I say to one doctor on their computer as I speak to them and they have made up their mind before even hearing me. It's scary to hear an almost word-for-word response - team Pfizer. No more doctors, I will take my chances. I can wait 2 months, drive 2 hours, and see someone who isn't so brainwashed. Better off without them is right.
@@billhesford6098 You are right and I have experienced the same thing. I leave one doctor, go to another and they have my interaction with the other doctor on their computer. It all got started around 1910. Carnegie and Rockefeller, who were heavily invested in pharmaceuticals, hired a guy, Abraham Flexner, to go around the country and survey hospitals and research institutions that supported allopathic medical treatment (pills and surgery to correct injury and disease) as opposed to very popular at the time alternative treatment systems like naturopathy. homeopathy, Chinese medicine, etc. These systems treat diseases by providing the body with nutritional, and natural remedies to keep it healthy to prevent diseases. All these systems were on a level playing field back then and patients chose the ones they preferred. Carnegie and Rockefeller spent vast sums of money supporting institutions and getting regulations in the medical field that labeled anything other than allopathy as quackery and not granting licenses to become an M.D.unless you practiced allopathy. The fact that the majority of the highest paid CEOs work for drug companies shows how successful they were.
I have taken statins for 20 years. I used to have muscle aches and weakness, but began to take my statin drug after 8:00 p.m. instead of in the a.m. My muscle aches and weakness decreased significantly.
Statins for five years, coupled with a genetic predisposition threw me in Necrotizing Autoimmune Mediated Myositis, a rare autoimmune disease caused by statins. I loss use of my arms and legs, have been in a wheelchair for six months and now have twice a month IV sessions with immunoglobulin at a cost of $6K a time to restore what I've lost. Worst health crisis of my life. If you have statins and muscle aches, weakness, get your doctor to run a CK level on your blood Then prepare for an electromylegram, muscle biopsy, and a half a dozen doctors who don't have a clue what is wrong with you and have never heard of this.
Me too. Dr. Brooke Goldner Goodbye Lupus protocol . I’m approaching my 3rd year of this unnecessary hell. The supposed rare occurrence of this doesn’t make me feel one bit better either!
I have managed to stay away from statins altogether by eating 4 Walnuts a day in combination with Cholesterol Formula 104 - Aged Garlic Extract - Kyolic. (2 capsules). I do my blood test every 6 months. My Cholesterol level has been consistent. Total 140, LDL, 54, HDL, 40. Triglyceride 70 (one cinnamon pill a day reduces your triglyceride tremendously). I am only reporting what has worked for me. Statins cause dementia. I could tell my brain was foggy when I was on it and I immediately got off it. Now, I feel great. ( I also try to avoid eating red meat and walk 3 miles a day)
And my Doctor keeps telling me to take statins to AVOID dementia. He uses this scare tactic to get people on them meanwhile all I read about statins is foggy, mental loss, forgetfulness, diabetic, liver and kidney issues, aches and pains for the majority of people. I think its time to find a new dr. Also he just called the pharmacy and ordered them for me without asking me.
Muscle pain in legs so severe I refused to take any more- told Dr. I would just take my chances. Couple of years later, was tested for metabolism of medicines and statins were ones I should avoid due to fast metabolism.
The first day I tookRosuvastatin 5 mg.I was dizzy when got up at night for bathroom,in de.morning excruciating headache and my blood pressure went high, the other 2 more days,the same problem,high blood pressure and terrible headaches, I wa feeling great before.the Dr.order blood test, I'm not taking it anymore,I'm watching my diet and walking 50 minutes,I'm 76 years old and feel ell.I believe God is going to take care of me Y pray and have Faith, blessing for the persons that quit that horrible medicine😢😢
Thank you God bless you Jesus Christ died for all our sin and when we turn from sin believing on Him as our living Lord and Savior we can read the Bible with the help of the Spirit of Christ guiding us into knowledge and faith in Jesus for our eternal God
My husband takes these. He now has type2 diabetes, muscle pain, weakness when walking, start of cataracts, depression and very nasty nightmares. I was offered these tablets and refused.
Thank you it was a great help understanding some of the side effects my statin use was causing. After a week of not taking my statins my well being is so much better and I feel very good practically in a number of different ways.
I have very high cholesterol, I'm over seventy and will never ever take a statin. I consume no glucose at all and consider myself safe. No pain, no health problems.
Cholesterol is the band aid that your body puts on the scars in your arteries from oxidation, inflammation, glycation and stress. Quit taking the statins and quit eating sugars, starches, vegetable (seed) oils, and processed foods. Those are the things causing inflammation, oxidation, glycation and the heart attacks, not the cholesterol.
Extremely rare compared to life long side effects from statins including fast onset of memory loss due to reduced q10. Dont believe the pharma scare mongering. My brother was on statins and anti hypertensives guess what 2 strokes and a major heart attack!
Statins have completely damaged my muscles and caused tremendous back pain. Makes all muscles ache and makes you feel old!! The drug companies should be charged for the criminal act of even putting this drug on the market.,
My husband was diagnosed with rhabdomyolysis... was having back pain & other issues ! Got lab work & he was in full blown kidney failure 😟 was going to have to start dialysis! But fortunately as soon as he stopped rosuvastatin & fenofibrate, they flushed his kidneys with saline by IV, labs started returning to normal ! So fortunate they said it was the combination of statins & fenofibrate ! Good luck
Very helpful thank you. I have been advised to take statins, but I have low cholesterol, low alcohol, I don’t smoke and I exercise regularly, but it’s being advised as ‘precaution’ and I just don’t want to take them.
Similar to me .I was on a highish dosage after they found my cholesterol level was high. After 15 years I've had my level checked 3 times only .My mam had heart disease so this was precautionary..I started experiencing tingling in my hands & toes so reduced it to 1 tablet in the evening. I've had muscle problems for years but I'm on a lot of anti convulsant medication so that might be the cause. Like you I don't drink or smoke & regularly exercise., Its impossible to get a doctor's appointment to have my cholesterol levels checked, hopefully you get access to have your cholesterol checked frequently .Good luck whatever you decide to do
,Annette is there history of strokes,heart diseases in your family or is it age ,whatever, I would speak to your family ,but don't be persuaded because its ? Family persuasion. or thinking oh the medical people "oh they must know better" strokes cancer are in my family, but I had strokes etc while caring for my old bedridden mother, I didn't think about my health I was going through lots of bad things,unwanted divorce etc etc, and I had a fall,i appeared to fall on back of my neck ,not realizing maybe damage, well by the time I was able to see my doctor (6 weeks) after,I had strokes, etc and was immediately put on blood thinners simvastatin etc as well as being 24 7 carer, you name It i was doing favours for tom dick and Harriet ha ha, if I hadn't offered to cross the road, to reach a retarded neighbour (son) "in case he slipped) because I was the one that did slip over on ice, I'm now 65, but also my slightly older brother had strokes same time,and six months after" he died of same brain disease, I would say if you can manage your health by healthy eating go for it, but as for myself yes I've suffered pains etc from statins but also being cold with blood thinners etc
@@terencebarrett2897 thank you for taking the trouble to write to me Terence. You are so right! I’ve stood firm against the statins and am concentrating on good quality food and exercise. I do feel that we are automatically herded into taking medications for all sorts of things. My mother, who developed vascular dementia, did have a stroke and a bleed on her brain. She did have high cholesterol, but she also had a lot of trauma that brought on the stroke even though she was in statins. I looked after her for 13 years and put her on fruit, veg and fish during which time she came off one of her blood thinners and her health improved dramatically until Covid got her. I’m sorry you have had such a bad time. People never know how much it takes out of you to care for others and how your own self and health disappears during that time. I really wish you well and that 2023 brings you health and happiness and a more peaceful time. All my good wishes to you. X
I have moderate, cough variant asthma. The first time I started on a statin, I awoke early in the morning with an asthma attack which responded to Albuterol. I reported it to my PCP, who said Statins aren’t known to do this. I tried a different statin, and it happened again. I did some study on reported side effects, and did find this was seen in asthma patients at times. The only risk factors I have you reported are hypothyroidism and my body type is thin.
I went to my doctor and complained of muscle aches and shoulder pain. She sent me to a heart doctor and she did bloodwork to see about my muscles and said that was fine then she had me come back and check my bloodwork cause she put me back on 20 mg of Zocor and when I came back, it went up some so I’m gonna put you back on 40 mg and you can just keep coming back in bloodwork I thought well I’m not gonna do that, I’m not traveling miles and miles just for bloodwork. And beginning to think I should just be my own doctor and do what I feel is necess .
There are a lot of studies of this, but the data is a bit noisy because severity of muscle ache is very subjective. With that caveat, the studies indicate myalgia reports tangling from 1-10%. Serious side-effects, primarily rhabdomyolysis, are extremely rare, less than 0.1%. On the other hand, the benefits for cardiovascular health are well documented and substantial. In other words, the risk-benefit calculation is very, very strongly in favor of statins.
@@xltek1 I’ve studied this class of drugs for many years, and arm pain is not a side-effect I came across. Rhabdo is typically felt in large muscles in legs. But your experience may have been a rare one as well. That does not undermine the vastly positive health benefits for nearly everyone.
@@tomhanrahan3763 we explored different options for source of pain. Nerve problems etc., did physical therapy for all that could be affecting me. No luck. Chiropractor, acupuncture, cupping, no luck. Stopped taking the statins and now pain free.
Correct! Treat the cause not the symptom. Doctors have that principle trained out of them. Got a problem we have a pill, pill causing side effects we have pills for that too! People need to wake the fcuk up!
"Don’t avoid healthy foods while on statins but simply avoid statins altogether." LOL. What "healthy foods" are you talking about? Alcohol? Grapefruit which has sugar and some really nasty phytotoxins? Or "herbal supplements" which not more than a mixture of a large amount of toxin plant compounds? (I'm not advocation statins, though, and I would never take a one...)
I'm almost 55 yrs old and I'm taking a lot of different medications for several health issues, I have been concerned about this for a few years now. I had a heart attack around 10 years ago, a stent put in there - prescribed statins for that and did take Atorvastatin for probably 9 years...I have since stopped that drug after hearing lots of bad things. Watching this and the other statin-related videos have been a big eye-opener for me. Post heart attack I've also been using constantly Metoprolol 23.5mg, Cilazapril 500mcg and Aspirin 100mg. I was also diagnosed with epilepsy around 20yrs ago after several small petit mal seizures where I simply found myself drifting off very briefly whilst say typing on my computer, I then would immediately have a weird metallic taste in my mouth and the one thing that really stood out with this type of seizure to me was memory loss afterwards, I would notice it a bit later, people told me my eyes briefly rolled back during an event, these small short-acting events would happen maybe once every 6 months or so only and I found myself losing LOTS of memory, friends names and some past events were now wiped from my memory and this hurt because many important things in my life are now erased, people would remind me of stuff and I would feel as though they were talking about someone else, not me...all from a small 30 second or so event! (this type of seizure is not the 'grand mal' seizure for those who think of the throwing of the body around etc). I think it's called a 'Petit mal' seizure. Thankfully I've been seizure-free since taking Epilim 800mg daily x 2 for probably around 19yrs I guess now. I halved that level down myself to 800mg once only daily as I don't really eat as regularly as I should and needed to have this drug with food - I must admit I can go without food all day easily and only have the dinner meal. The main health concern that affects me on a daily basis: I suffer from chronic back pain after injuring it at work when I was 22 yrs old and over the years have been on lots of different drugs for it - most of those meds didn't really reduce the pain level for long and would only dull it down a bit, the pain is 24/7 and I'd score it a 12 out of 10 on a pain scale to be honest if I have no pain relief on board which has only happened once in the last 30 odd years. I would always make sure I had pain meds with me if travelling or a public holiday was happening I made sure scripts were sorted so I wouldn't run out. In the last year I have been using a Fentanyl patch 25mcg for the pain - (started on a 12.5mcg but that wasn't for long maybe a week or two) this larger patch only lasts maybe a day and a half and I'm not wanting to appear to the Dr like some junkie who needs more but truth be told I do need either A: a larger patch that might last longer or B: some other drug entirely? Before January 2021 I wasn't even aware of the Fentanyl patch, this has only been a recent introduction for me along with a new Doctor who prescribed it, honestly, initially, I thought it was a real godsend, it actually took the pain away entirely!!! -- this felt like all my Xmases had come at once, finally, I could get on with my life and do things physically more demanding that I have been unable to do before, or so I thought at the time anyway - the patch is a slow-release thing that is supposed to release the drug over 3 days (72 hrs) but by end of day 2 I'm in lots of pain again - combined with the Fentanyl I use Sevrodol (morphine)10mg which is supposed to be for 'flare up' pain but I use it daily spaced out evenly from morning till night - along with that I have Gabapentin 1200mg x 3 daily plus Norflex (muscle relaxant) 50mg x 2 daily. I take the Gabapentin, Morphine and Norflex at the same time trying to space out my hours evenly to get an even pain relief time frame over a day. In this last year, I have been diagnosed with hypothyroidism or an 'underactive thyroid' so I take Levothyroxine 50mcg daily for this. On top of that in this last year, I have been diagnosed borderline with Gout so I use Allopurinol 100mg daily for that. (I don't regularly drink alcohol by the way...maybe once a year if that) Speaking on the same subject as Gout I have had kidney stones before and can actually say my back pain is fairly close to the unbearable pain kidney stones produced! This is obviously a lot of medications right - I feel like crap much of the time usually because of my back pain that isn't really under control as much as I'd desire - the last time I saw my Dr he raised the Fentanyl patch size only but I'm sure I need a higher dose still. I found out this is what many cancer patients are given to combat pain - I'm curious as to what size patches are prescribed so I will research this further. This video and the other 2 relating to Statins were an even bigger eye-opener for me about the statins than I realised - I'm glad I stopped taking the atorvastatin but to be honest I have no idea what my cholesterol level is now, I have not told my Dr I have stopped the Atorvastatin - he hasn't noticed that I never requested repeats on that drug (not hard to miss I guess considering how many drugs I take). I am worried my cholesterol might be high as I haven't had any blood tests done for a while (maybe 10 months) - I used to have a 6 monthly blood test and thinking of it now perhaps this was to check maybe the statin levels? Maybe how it's affecting my liver etc? I had a heart stress test around 3 years ago - all good there. I still get angina now and then, now that's scary! One minute you're watching TV then suddenly getting chest pain that's increasing - I use Nitrolingual spray for that but there has been the odd "almost ring an ambulance" scenario waiting for the pain to subside or not... Funny thing is my blood pressure has always been perfect, Drs find that surprising too I think. Anyhow I'm kind of in limbo of what to do now - I will contact my Dr (that Practice has gone through many Doctors over these last 5 years) and at least get a blood test and tell him I stopped the Statin. I'm very curious about my cholesterol levels. If Dr suggests going back to the statin I'm not sure what the heck I'll do, to be honest, these videos have provided me much greater knowledge, I noticed the side effect if one has hypothyroidism and that's a worry for me as something I can directly relate to - I have had many side effect symptoms I think in the past but to be honest I can't say I have noticed either way if I feel better for stopping the statin really. I still feel lots of aches and pains - other than my back pain, I know some can be put down to my increasing age too. One issue for me is concentration - I struggle a lot of the time and wonder if I'm losing my marbles somewhat. Wouldn't surprise me 🤣 I must try to keep positive, it's not easy sometimes and I feel for others worse off than me. If someone can give me some advice that would be great - (if JJ Medicine reads this I hope he could) I have suffered depression in the past and get bouts of it here and there quite regularly, I'm not sure if it's a case for another medication but I would like to avoid that if I can!... I get through however but do break down at times for reasons that are beyond what I can identify specifically, financially like many my family are scraping by during these times, that doesn't help the depression. I own a small business that I've created from scratch, I had to do something or stay unemployed/on disability so I now photograph real estate in my town - photography has always been a hobby, it's not all big dollars either that some reading this might think, it's a small town and I have a small portion of the market, just enough to help earn a living to pay our bills, this is along with my wife's income, of course, she is the primary bread-winner, and because I own a business and I'm not on Disability (like I have been for many years due to my back injury) I am having to pay lots of unforeseen additional charges that come with owning a business - even Dr visits were only $30 before but now I have to pay $80 per visit as technically I'm no longer 'poor' as seen in my country. Trying to get ahead is like one step forward and two steps back it seems. You try to do what's right and get off an unemployment benefit or disability benefit (like the Govt want you to) then they take any incentive to work away from you by making life harder....that's another story in itself!!! Apologies to those who think this was long-winded... thanks to those who might understand and can maybe relate to the health issues I've talked about. Elon - please create a neural plugin that removes my pain for good? 😁 ahh one can but wish...I'll be a guinea pig - just tell me where to sign!
Get off the Gababetin asap!! One of major side effects is memory loss!! I went to Dr because I was having severe memory problems & thought I was losing my mind!!! Dr took me off of it & switched me to Lyrica. The memory loss went away. Been on it for 5 years and no problem.
Thank you so much for this information. I'm doing polypharmacy, all doctor prescribed for individual ailments. This gives me something to think about and discuss with my doctors.
Doctors know what they studied most of our problems seems to stem from the liver have to detox the liver I am taking milk thistle from my garden one of the doctors described all my symptoms and I said it's this troubling numbness fingers and feet sharp shooting pain spider veins burning feet seems like liver problem so much going on we have to investigate our selves thank God for you tube and some doctors THANKS 👍 GOD BLESS
I've tried everything to reduce my cholesterol naturally (diet/exercise I haven't had a drop of alcohol in almost 10 years). I started taking a statin as a last resort. I take it at night, and my cholesterol levels are gradually dropping. The only side effect I've noticed is that I make poop soup in the morning.
@@alcoholic2412 well, that’s not really advice, it’s just what worked for me when I found out I was allergic to a prescription drug a few years ago! I switched it up with my doctor & felt 100% better. Best of luck friend!
The big issue is that too many doctors push statin drugs, yet according to research done over a 34-year period (1987-2021) from 21 individual studies, it showed that the reduction rate for strokes and heart attacks was less than 1%. This clearly shows that there is more at play than just bad cholesterol. This study was published by JAMA (Journal of the American Medical Association). I tried sharing a link to it, but it seems I'm not allowed. Whatever happened to sharing informative information?
I also take same drug and have muscle pains and it’s true that statins cause this I took a statin holiday for a few weeks and all the aches disappeared
Never had a Dr. Putz but did have one who badgered me for years to give up cigarettes , which I finally did....only to have him hound me for another few years to take off my post smoking weight gain. Smh.
@@msr1116 Sounds like he has you best interests at heart. He's no Dr. Putz. He's a Dr. Good-doctor! Good luck with the weight. I went through all that 40 years ago. It was worth it. You can do it!!!
@@stephensmith60 .....well, my point with him was that: Solving one problem only to create another, then regularly pester me about it, won't motivate me to take the weight off. After a while it becomes demoralizing.
@@richardwalker8398 Absolute is when you 100% know its going to cause problems even death. Actual risk is when you discover its all a con and your risk is minimal! Pharma company's lie constantly and make up all these stupid risk numbers. Its a game of chance but they want your money so they load the game!
@@charlestait5303 I wish to spent a few hours to convince you on a medical basis....but I understand it is very hard to convince you once you had your ideas 💡 ➡️... so sorry bro
I am on rosuvastatin and have not experienced most of these side affects. I had a near fatal heart attack ten years ago, and am on varapimil. I do sometimes have some dizziness, but OTC meclizine seems to take care of that. I also have minor asthma, easily treated with albuterol, so maybe I'm just one of the lucky ones who doesn't seem to have these side affects...so far!
I take rosuvastatin because I have a stint as a result of 80% blockage and valve repair. I am also not experiencing any side effects. Vitamin D is helpful to know.
@@msr1116 The French high fat cheeses are made from grass-fed ruminants, which does not contribute to heart disease. Sugar, starch, and O-6 vegetable oils cause inflammation, oxidation, and glycation which along with stress are the true causes of heart disease.
I used to take Crestor, my new GP prescribed me Rovostustatin. A friend advised me statins are bad. I am going to see my GP and start back on the crestor to lower my cholseterol. Thanks for the sound advice.
I am pretty sure that taking Atorvastatin AND Metoprolol are causing me to have VERY low blood pressure, which cause my AFIB to trigger, and or give me weird pumping activity in the heart, but that is intermittent, and usually will mellow out in a couple of hours. Nonetheless, I am getting tired of ALL of these meds, because I have to worry virtually all of the time, if my heart afib will trigger when I need to be out doing stuff! I don't know about most, but when my AFIB switch turns on, I want/need to lay down ASAP to bring it back to normal rhythm, instead of 150 BPM!!!!! :( (oh, and it SEEMS a Vitamin D supplement triggers my AFIB too, anyone else have this????)
I take both and it has caused low blood pressure. It now seems to be causing severe depression. I take Vitamin D. I think I need to get rid of the statin.
I'm on Heart medication.. Sometimes my body shakes like a vibrator.. I Hate when it happens as I don't know what really causes it. Great side effect. But don't worry, It's safe.. So my Dr. says..
My mother got diabetes and cognitive decline from statins. I stopped her pills and her diabetes reversed in three months. Her cognitive decline partly recovered. Cardiologist prescribed her statins with zero heart risks.
There are studies supporting the claim that certain statins (Lipitor/atorvastatin is the one I recall from a number of years ago) reduce heart disease/stroke. In biochemistry, one has to be careful about “cause”, but there is extremely high correlation and chemical causation linking statins to lower incidence of heart disease that is associated with heart attack. There is no doubt that lower LDL is healthy, and statins lower LDL quite effectively.
@@tomhanrahan3763 ...there are various types of LDL, some are not dangerous at all...the test used to count LDL is not detailed enough to make a definitive call on how dangerous it is. It’s like saying all Fire is dangerous and should be extinguished-but by doing so, you’d also have to eradicate beneficial fires used for heat, light & cooking. Statins lessen the body’s ability to manufacture cholesterol ...including the good cholesterol necessary for health & life.
@@boatsie Not exactly correct. Statins inhibit the enzyme that is key to producing cholesterol in the liver and thus allow the liver to absorb more cholesterol in the blood, where it can be very dangerous. But the liver will always produce as much cholesterol as the body needs. That’s why it is saggy to focus on the sdLDL even though there are other less worrisome LDL subtypes. Oddly, statins generally have the effect of increasing HDL, the often-called “good cholesterol.”
@@tomhanrahan3763 ..let me get this straight...the liver will produce all the cholesterol the body needs, yet statins inhibit the enzyme that the liver requires to produce cholesterol? How is this good?... sounds like a “chicken or the egg” riddle.
I have taken this medicine since 2004 haven't noticed any bad side effects the one. My doctor gave me seems to be working for me.. we should know what percentage having bad side effects. Doctors nurse informed me about certain foods not to eat grape jam or jelly etc. . Used for alcohol making... my gallbladder gave me more trouble right after surgery now I eat what I want in moderation.. almost.. noticed foods are more spicy lately now that will give me some problems.. I hate it when they do that.. older people thats a no no. Most of them anyway.. The names he gave out I wonder if they were brands. I need help. Protected my heart clogging up. These are interesting videos for us to give some thought and be xareful what we eat and our medications thank you.
5-2-2024 started taking Atorvastatin. Since then my blood platelets have dropped 60%, brain fog, sore muscles, headaches. Stopped taking on July 1st, 2024. Will provide updates of what happens.
There are many reasons not to takes this drug, I suffered muscle pain and was harder to control my blood sugar, best thing to do is get off them as I did and I no longer have these side effects
I have muscle aches for years and refused to take statin drugs, and now my doctor won’t give me anything for cholesterol lowering. So, who is the child here it’s her job to help the patients out.
Thank you for the info. I have been on Coumadin (warfarin) for the last 14 years and rarely have had a good lipid profile. After a month of taking statins, I was experiencing myalgia, drowsiness and inflammation in certain joints. Until I spoke to a friend, who also took statins, they also had some of the same effects, however, they mostly experienced migraines. I spoke to my DR. and have been put off statins for 3 weeks to a month, and will start another type (brand). I just wanted to thank you for an enlightening lecture, for I never knew that warfarin itself could possibly contribute to the problems. I will try the new medication within a month or so, however, if it comes to quitting statins or warfarin, I'll chose the statin: for twice in my life I have had pulmonary emboli twice within a ten years period, and must keep my INR between 2 and 3. I will discuss this with him should the same side effects start to occur. Thank you.
High triglycerides simply means you're eating too many carbs - or tooo much popcorn, chips, rice, beans, bread, barley, etc. Cut that down and your tg's will plummet!
"Nice to hear that K2 doesn’t prohibit Atorvastatin..." What you mean by "prohibit"? 🤣🤣🤣 It is the other way, actually. Atorvastatin *inhibits* the production of K2 (and Vit-D) in your body. So by giving your body K2 (and D) you just replenish what has been lost by taking statins...
@@stevejensen3471 "High triglycerides simply means you're eating too many carbs - or tooo much popcorn, chips, rice, beans, bread, barley, etc. Cut that down and your tg's will plummet!" It's the sugar (sucrose=table sugar or any other combination of fructose & glucose such as the HFCS) which is the biggest problems. Starch & glucose is not bening either, but it is the sugar what makes the most damage...
@@ahope4u2 Omg. I'm getting so bad, I was going to have my doc test me for dementia. Forgetful, fogging head, can't make decisions or understand questions. I never dreamed it might be the statins.
@@danirietdorf5242 I have fibromyalgia. I stopped cold turkey taking pain meds after 20 years. I started drinking matcha, ginger, and turmeric teas, my muscles no lower hurt and my joints feel better. Inflammation in my body in less. I was worried staying on pain meds. I do take vitamin D. I now garden and can my food.
@@okidoki878 ,, Did you know that grapefruit in essence is like a Statin drug ? That is why it is NOT recommended whilst on a Statin. It increases the serum levels in the blood and technically alters the prescribed dosage of Statin .
"I prefer avoiding Statins and taking grapefruit" I prefer avoidin statins and avoiding grapefruit and any other fruit and vegetables and other plant-sht...
@@okidoki878 "Not if it save your live in my family people fall dead on age 30 now with statins not anymore" There are much better ways, like completely avoiding sugar and carbohydrates...
After a year of prescribed Atorvastatin and the increase in pain to my shoulder and hip I discontinued. I’d rather live with cholesterol then die from the pains I suffered for almost one year Pain I never experienced in my life . It’s been only a week and the pains and aches have subsided greatly.
I wonder how long would you experience these side effects after you stop taking these drugs? Because I have stopped for over a month now and I still feel dizzy everytime I walk or even when I am sitting at rest. I also have tingling hands and feet, random headaches, muscles pains, and chest pains. I feel like my life was so much better before started taking them.
@@supernarl , I've been off rosuvastatin 20 mg since late December 2021 , I had a 90-day supply, three months Worth . I took it for 11 weeks because early December, my ears started to ring and then about the eighth of the 8th Of December Non stop. My stupid doctor, should have took me off of that 20 mg rosuvastatin poison. I did it myself. ENT, ears are clear, audiologist right ear good , left ear high-frequency 85% hearing loss with tinnitus to follow. I feel that the 20m rosuvastatin triggered my permanent tinnitus. I have aches and pains, anxiety and stress, followed by insomnia. I have ear fullness in both ears, plus the pains that follows with it. It doesn't take a doctor to find out because of these symptoms , I was fine before I took rosuvastatin 20 mg. It's been seven long agonizing months. Tinnitus could be a crippling between night hours and morning throughout the day of tasks. I'd ever heard of tinnitus until it happened to me.
@@supernarl , Terrible , It's Getting Worse ! Dr's. ENTS, EMR , Hospitals. Know Very little To Nothing About Tinnitus , Audiologist Most Know About Statin, Nerve , Muscle ,Tendon Damage . Please Do Keeps In Touch . Best Of Health ,And A Total Speedy Recovery For Us Tinnitus Sufferers. Pete .
Thankful for your site. My doctor's nurse scolded me when I put up resistance to statins, implying that not only did I ruin my health and cause my heart disease but now I am not willing to cooperate to fix it?? She would not tell me the name of the lab test so I can find out do I have mostly tiny, harmful LDLs or do I have the OK big, fluffy ones? Because apparently statins take out the big fluffy ones. I have so much to learn and not getting help from my cardiology group.
Thank You for these insights! I admit I didn't know half of them 😅 I will definitely share it with my colleagues ! I think we must always ask patients about over-the-counter drugs and herbal medicines.
P.S.: I have spoken to many people who are on statins before consulting my DR, and all five have experienced one side effect or another. It's a wonder that it is not only used for people who have bypass or other types of cardiac surgery.
...I’ll save you a trip/co-pay: Statin alternative = cut out sugar & processed carbs; enjoy protein & beneficial saturated fats; get adequate vitamin D (from sunny walks preferably); lower stress; try for 7 hours of sleep a night.
Statins are largely a con for the benefit of pharma companies and corruptible researchers. Tell your doc to do one like I did. Actually mine told me yesterday to up carb intake for fatty liver. You literally couldn't make it up.
Unbelievable!! Statins are a con for Big Pharma based on the long-held myth started by Dr. Ancel Keyes that fat was the cause of heart attacks. That myth triggered the no eggs, lean meat, low-fat craze that let the sugar and margarine crowd give the heart doctors all the work they could handle. Time to find another doctor that prescribes good foods like cruciferous veggies, fermented foods like sauerkraut and kefir and fatty(O-3) fish, grapefruit, grapes, avocados, nuts for a fatty liver.
Absolutely wonderful information, and do you know completely everything you want, and have to put in to words,information, 'answers to questions on numerous forms to justify your illness's ,,it gets absolutely tearful heartbreaking,especially when you've had strokes,brain disease's etc where a yes or no answer would help you",,100% "rather than one question needing answers a page long,,
Would affects by other medications and supplements be less if those medications and supplements were taken at a different time of the day from the statin?
Great, I'm female, have had hypothyroid for about 20 years, I survived septic shock which injured my kidneys. Three years later I'm back in ICU with sepsis AND Rhabdomyolisis, which was the 2nd injury to my kidneys since the rhabdo causes muscle enzymes to be released into the blood stream, clogging the kidneys. Simvastatin was what was considered the culprit that started that disaster. Since then I've also had a pulmonary embolism and heart attack, and they won't put dye in me for anything. Please learn how to pronounce Rhabdomyolisis, 6 syllables as I was corrected by Lynn Robinson. I don't know how I thought it was anything BUT 6 syllables is beyond me.
@@lynnrobinson8885 You are right, don't ask me what I was thinking. I had read your comment before looking to see that you were responding to me and as I was thinking about it, I was like "yep, 6 syllables, who is arguing that?" And I see I screwed up. I'm going to edit it because I'm a bit embarrassed by that.
One day I am going to die. I'll not spend what remains of my life in futile efforts to avoid that thresh hold. I'll pass on the stats and opt for the grapefruit. Send me a post card in a hundred years.
My Dr suggested a statin when my cholesterol was mildly elevated. I decided to try and reduce it with better diet and I started taking a Red yeast rice supplement. Three months later my levels are down, not sure which contributed the most but I’ll keep doing both.
No don't avoid them. Refuse to take them at all. They are a slow burn and no matter who you are you will eventually develop night cramps, and general weakness and you won''t even notice till it's too late.
If you have hypocholestoralaemia ( very high cholesterol levels dye to genetic factors) then this is the only situation to take statinsm specially if you have had angioplasty/ surgery in oast or there is a history of heart disease in family
The most important thing to avoid is the statin itself. The next thing to avoid is the baby aspirin. Cholesterol is manufactured by the body. It is not found in junk food.
One advice is don't take a statin if your LDL is 300 or under and never take the prescribed dose because it is always unnecessarily high and will cause some damage to the body. Two or three doses per week are sufficient, in many cases only one dose per week is sufficient to lower LDL without the statin poisoning the body to the degree that it otherwise does. The chances of not having a heart attack when taking a statin are one in 400 and the increased longevity is by 1.5 days after taking a statin for ten years. When doctors say that risks are reduced by 25 percent or more, they are using big pharma's relative figures not the absolute true number.
Oh dear, so the 12 odd meds I take alongside my Afvorstatin and Canoflogozin is a bit of a naughty no no, Omeprazole, Amlodipine, three anti-depressants of Venlafaxine, Mirtazapine and Amitriptyline plus 30mg of MST and my Metformin... I distinctly asked my doctors if this cocktail would be OK and was assured no problemo. I had a few years back the full monty of a 9 hour triple bypass operation which has not ended as well as hoped and I suffer from serious sternum pain and last year was told they only did one side and I still need the other side done because of Covid they couldn't arrange stents and now that boat has sailed and its back on the slab again :(
I was recently put on statins because my labs were showing an increase in cholesterol. I had begun to notice an increase in some of the side effects though I didn't know that at the time until I started doing the research. I didn't need all this when I was riding my bicycle everyday and hiking. When my activity levels fell, I saw a rise in in things such A1C and cholesterol. Now I see that "intense" exercise is discouraged. I do HIIT exercises to stay as fit as I can at age 73. The long period of reduced activity due to the pandemic didn't help. It seems like a no win. Right now I'm making diet adjustments but I see no benefit in giving up exercise.
Thank you for your information. My research has lead me to discontinue my statin and baby aspirin. It’s only been a week. My Muscle ache stop my swelling hands stop, bruising was a problem, dry eyes, and my eye vision is back prior to statin. I am 77 years young-only been on medication for routine illnesses here and there. I believe in natural herbs. Going to continue my live doing the things I enjoy skiing, hiking, riding my bike and traveling. With God’s help and the education of my FP Dr. and my Dr. of NH…My wish is for another 20 plus years, to enjoy my family and this wonderful world.
I have been taking Atorvastatin for about 2 years and just recently i started getting leg and arm pain. So i will get back to this but here is a somewhat condensed version of how i started taking this statin and i am open to all comments as i am trying to determine what direction to go in. I am in my 50's pretty healthy and active. Play ice hockey, walk/light jog on the treadmill for at least an hour. I am also a full time drummer which keeps me very active. So not sure if anyone has ever heard of a company called life line. Its a company that goes around from town to town and tests you as to what your chances are of having a stroke or heart attack in 5 years or more. I am very health aware so i thought it would be a good idea to see how i make out. There was no other reason except being curious. Results come back and it says i have inflammation so i go to my cardiologist. He says he didn't put to much clout in that test but he said you never know and he suggested i take a CT Calcium score test. Turns out the way the doctor described it i have the beginning of a few small plaque deposits and he suggested i take the statin and a baby aspirin. This was all new to me so i went online and saw lots of stories like the ones in this forum and i called him back and told him. He got kind of upset with me and said i hate when my patients read this stuff online. I said doctor these people aren't paid actors and are telling what their experiences have been taking a statin. He said i can't tell you to take them or not take them. So i am the kind of person who isn't convinced easy so i went to another cardiologist and he said the same thing. I still wasn't happy so i remembered my mom had a really good cardiologist so i went and chatted with him. He said he did believe in using statins but also likes using supplements and believes in diet and excercise. So he gave me a stress test, ultra sound of my heart before and after the stress test and a tilt table test all of which came back fine. So here is my question. I hear everyone talking about taking statins for cholesterol. My cholesterol was 170 when this all started so it wasn't that bad. So if you have plaque deposits and a statin is the way the docs treat it what else can you take to keep this under control? Has anyone on this forum had a CT Calcium score test? If you did and found you had deposits what are you doing if your not taking statin? I eat pretty well and do take Ubiquinol CQ 10 200 Mg once a day. I take Acetyl L-Carnitine 1000 Mg, Alpha Lipoic Acid 600 Mg, K2+D3, L-Methylfolate 7.5 Mg, Beet Root Extract 500 Mg, Super vitamin B Complex. I also take Vitamin D. Besides these supplements i take Omeprazole 40 Mg, Fish Oil, Fenofibrate 134 Mg, Amlodipine 10 Mg. I forgot to say the statin is 40 Mg and i take it at night. Sorry for the long post but i want to let you know this is what i am taking so you can give me an honest opinion. Thanks for listening!
High cholesterol is not a problem. That has been proven over and over in peer-reviewed studies from around the world, The Canadian Nurses Study, the meta-analysis of may studies in Japan, the meta-analysis at Harvard, and others. Cholesterol is manufactured in the liver as a necessary solution to many of the needs your body has, including the most important one of all for people who eat the "western diet." Cholesterol covers the scarring in the arteries caused by inflammation, oxidation and glycation from eating sugars, starches and vegetable oils. Yes there is cholesterol in the plaque in arteries. But the fault is in the sugars, starches and O-6 oils that caused the damage to the artery walls, not the cholesterol in the plaque that is patching up the damage.
"What about the problem of high cholesterol?" High cholesterol is only a problem when it is caused by insulin resistance / hyperinsulinaemia. Stop eating sugar and other carbohydrates and in that setting even a high blood levels of cholesterol are not a problem, but are beneficial. Insulin is what causes heart attack and stroke, not cholesterol per se.
Agree entirely. I stopped taking simvastatin about two years ago. No problem. I have grapefruit to help keep my cholesterol levels down, not that they were ever high. Doc thought it was a good idea to take simvastatin.
@@boatsie .....my European mother thought American doctors were the biggest drug pushers around. She said you weren't even done explaining your ailment and already he began scribbling on his prescription pad.... A pill for every problem, both real and perceived.
@@msr1116 ...your mom’s observations are correct. Too many “Doctors” are trained to treat as many symptoms with drugs as they can find during the 7 minutes they are given to see each patient. Then during follow-up 7-minute visit 3 months hence, they prescribe more drugs to treat the side effects experienced from the first batch of drugs the patient received....rinse & repeat for the patient’s lifetime into a slow & debilitating death.
Keep in mind that while some people will experience side effects of statin, ranging from mild to severe, the incidence of side effects is very rare. There’s a danger in trying to generalize from anecdotes. That said, it is good to ask doctors questions and weigh the risks. BTW, the assumption that doctors get “kickbacks” from drug manufacturers never had much credibility, and has none now that all these statins are available as generics.
Any information on Atorvastatin and NMN? Apparently Atorvastatin prevents shortening of telomeres, but I take NMN as well. I've noticed that there seems to be some sort of push/pull effect between them, but can't quite work it out. I stopped the statins for a week due to having run out and experienced increased skin smoothness within 20 minutes of taking NMN, but back on statins I have increased side effects but also the increased energy levels from NMN. It's as if the statin is decreasing some effects, increasing others, but also causing side effects when on NMN. I've already decreased my doseage of statins and I recently took a 10th of the NMN I usually take (100mg instead of 1g) to find it worked better. So is it a matter of finding the right balance or should I quit statins?
@@nancyhollo4589 Nicotinamide Mononucleotide. The body converts Niacin into Nicotinamide Riboside (NR) then to NMN which in turn helps to create NAD, needed by every cell in the body. Without it you're dead, but we lose NAD as we age. It reverses cellular ageing. Would have to take dangerous levels to get it from Niacin. Some people prefer NR, I think NMN is the bees knees.
I have a friend that developed dementia from taking lipotor for 6 years. I do not understand why the fab hasn’t taken this drug off the market..there are so many side effects that are dangerous to your health.
With so many medications, and several stating similar side effects concern, one does not know whom to trust, the doctors who may not read all the literature, the drug manufactures whose dominant concern is to push the sales of the drug, or all those in between who profit from these borderline “fear- induced medications”. So help us Lord!
Just visit your medical practitioner, do not read frighteners online. Yes reading up on the effects of various medications maybe helpful, but in most instances medications have been prescribed for a reason and I’m not talking greater profits for pharma. Statins have been proved to guard against strokes and heart attacks, that’s good enough for me and luckily I haven’t got any side effects.
That’s my husbands opinion exactly and he has no side effects either. I’m keen not to take them, and lowered my cholesterol levels with a changed diet and Red yeast rice supplements.
Yes!!! The alternative is to avoid foods (sugars, starch, vegetable oils) that cause the inflammation, oxidation and glycation which are the real causes of heart disease.
@@horizons2358 Hmmm? Blaming cholesterol for atherosclerosis is like blaming the firemen putting out the fire in your house. Cholesterol and fibrin in the plaque in your arteries is putting out the fire of the inflammation, oxidation and stress (from sugar and rancid vegetable oils in the western diet) that causes scarring and cracks in the arteries. Measuring cholesterol does nothing to measure the risk for heart disease. It is like looking for your car keys under the street light in an otherwise dark parking lot when you lost your keys on the opposite end of the parking lot.
So when my doctor prescribed a statin for blood pressure and a statin for cholesterol whi8le still recovering from a food poisoning incident was maybe not such a good idea. I had severe side effects.
I was having brain fog , fatigue , nasal congestion & sore muscles. Quit taking statins after finding out that these are side effects of the drug and decided to eat healthier and get more exercise. Those side effects have gone away and I feel MUCH better.
They tell you all sorts of things. Better to ask around people with experience from the patients' side.
I exercised daily. All day, every day. Took 10mg of statin. (Cut a pill in half).
Dr switched me to avorastatin. Joints & muscles started aching. To be honest I ate grapefruit too.
I quit both. After a couple of years on ruvastatin the aching is going away.
Statin is the only meds I take.
Exactly the same thing is happening to me and these statins are made by physer cause of this I haven't taken the second and third vaccines don't know if I should
@@arthermax You dont need them its all a lie!
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My own personal take on it: A close friend who is also a doctor told me (as my parents were aging), "Do not let any doctor put your parents on statins. In all the years I've been practicing, any time a patient has started statins (he doesn't prescribe, but evidently others do), it's a downward decline in their health and then shortly thereafter, death. I've never seen statins make anyone better. Ever." And he's been a doctor for decades.
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It's interesting that you say that because I recently stopped taking statins for a couple of weeks, and when I started again I noticed my angina getting worse.
I am afraid of Statins it's done bad with me couldn't walk also balance problems I am prescribed double dose too not taking it
We have to be our own doctor I eat jungle oats in boiling water and banana and grated apples with a little milk or sour milk am loosing weight too fruits and veggies and green juices celery spinach cucumber take vitamin D3 WITH COMPLETE MENS VITAMIN COD LIVER OIL THIS IS WHAT I AM DOING HAVE TO EXPERIMENT DRINK WATER
Been on statins for 28 years. Doing great at 73. Run 3 marathons a year. Zero side affects so far. Hypertension was 195/110.
Now 128/ 74 avg with statins and exercise and diet. Hypertension can be genetics if it wasn’t for statins id been dead a long time ago.
Immense muscular degeneration to the point of being sent to the ER. I could not walk or raise my arms. The E.R. told me to return to my PCP and tell them that they are killing me. Three months on Statins and three months of reduced to near crippling of muscles. I was lucky to recover.
My arms hurt me so badly especially around bed time.
TOO MUCH WOFFLE. STOP EDUCATING. YOU ARE NOT IN A LECTURE THEATRE. GET TO THE POINT, OR PEOPLE WILL DELETE YOU.
All I know is I felt ok with high cholesterol and felt awful on statins.
High cholesterol doesn't mean disease, but most doctors have a knee-jerk response to cholesterol & will prescribe statins for you.
God bless you and keep you well.🇭🇲
Thank you verymuch sir
That should tell you something. Send the statins to hell where they belong. Find another doctor that isn't trying to kill you by making another dollar for Big Pharma.
@@jackfanning7952 I have found around where I live, all of the 'doctors' are big pharma drug dealers. I also found out if I go to another doctor, they have what I say to one doctor on their computer as I speak to them and they have made up their mind before even hearing me. It's scary to hear an almost word-for-word response - team Pfizer. No more doctors, I will take my chances.
I can wait 2 months, drive 2 hours, and see someone who isn't so brainwashed. Better off without them is right.
@@billhesford6098 You are right and I have experienced the same thing. I leave one doctor, go to another and they have my interaction with the other doctor on their computer. It all got started around 1910. Carnegie and Rockefeller, who were heavily invested in pharmaceuticals, hired a guy, Abraham Flexner, to go around the country and survey hospitals and research institutions that supported allopathic medical treatment (pills and surgery to correct injury and disease) as opposed to very popular at the time alternative treatment systems like naturopathy. homeopathy, Chinese medicine, etc. These systems treat diseases by providing the body with nutritional, and natural remedies to keep it healthy to prevent diseases. All these systems were on a level playing field back then and patients chose the ones they preferred. Carnegie and Rockefeller spent vast sums of money supporting institutions and getting regulations in the medical field that labeled anything other than allopathy as quackery and not granting licenses to become an M.D.unless you practiced allopathy. The fact that the majority of the highest paid CEOs work for drug companies shows how successful they were.
I have taken statins for 20 years. I used to have muscle aches and weakness, but began to take my statin drug after 8:00 p.m. instead of in the a.m. My muscle aches and weakness decreased significantly.
Thanks I'll try that tonight 😊
I too change to 8-9 o'clock in the evening. It does make a big difference for sure.
Pretty sure it tells you to take them at night.
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I’m sure depending upon your age there could be a big difference in the definition of night!
Thats actually when you’re supposed to take them LATE AT NIGHT.
Statins for five years, coupled with a genetic predisposition threw me in Necrotizing Autoimmune Mediated Myositis, a rare autoimmune disease caused by statins. I loss use of my arms and legs, have been in a wheelchair for six months and now have twice a month IV sessions with immunoglobulin at a cost of $6K a time to restore what I've lost. Worst health crisis of my life. If you have statins and muscle aches, weakness, get your doctor to run a CK level on your blood Then prepare for an electromylegram, muscle biopsy, and a half a dozen doctors who don't have a clue what is wrong with you and have never heard of this.
Statins are the problem.
I suffered same for 1 year, my Dr told me to stop immediately.
Me too. Dr. Brooke Goldner Goodbye Lupus protocol . I’m approaching my 3rd year of this unnecessary hell. The supposed rare occurrence of this doesn’t make me feel one bit better either!
No wonder people have a big hate on for big pharma…. Yikes… I am having muscle pains as well… so statins are my next target against pharma…
I have managed to stay away from statins altogether by eating 4 Walnuts a day in combination with Cholesterol Formula 104 - Aged Garlic Extract - Kyolic. (2 capsules). I do my blood test every 6 months. My Cholesterol level has been consistent. Total 140, LDL, 54, HDL, 40. Triglyceride 70 (one cinnamon pill a day reduces your triglyceride tremendously). I am only reporting what has worked for me. Statins cause dementia. I could tell my brain was foggy when I was on it and I immediately got off it. Now, I feel great. ( I also try to avoid eating red meat and walk 3 miles a day)
And my Doctor keeps telling me to take statins to AVOID dementia. He uses this scare tactic to get people on them meanwhile all I read about statins is foggy, mental loss, forgetfulness, diabetic, liver and kidney issues, aches and pains for the majority of people. I think its time to find a new dr. Also he just called the pharmacy and ordered them for me without asking me.
Muscle pain in legs so severe I refused to take any more- told Dr. I would just take my chances. Couple of years later, was tested for metabolism of medicines and statins were ones I should avoid due to fast metabolism.
I think it's these statins that caused my muscle weakness don't know how to strengthen my muscles can someone tell me please
The first day I tookRosuvastatin 5 mg.I was dizzy when got up at night for bathroom,in de.morning excruciating headache and my blood pressure went high, the other 2 more days,the same problem,high blood pressure and terrible headaches, I wa feeling great before.the Dr.order blood test, I'm not taking it anymore,I'm watching my diet and walking 50 minutes,I'm 76 years old and feel ell.I believe God is going to take care of me Y pray and have Faith, blessing for the persons that quit that horrible medicine😢😢
Thank you God bless you Jesus Christ died for all our sin and when we turn from sin believing on Him as our living Lord and Savior we can read the Bible with the help of the Spirit of Christ guiding us into knowledge and faith in Jesus for our eternal God
My husband takes these. He now has type2 diabetes, muscle pain, weakness when walking, start of cataracts, depression and very nasty nightmares. I was offered these tablets and refused.
PS The doctors have not reported anything , so you must never rely on statistics ever!
I WAS OFFERED THEM BUT I DON'T HAVE HIGH CHOLESTEROL, 4.8, I FOUND OUT DOCTORS GET PAID IF YOU TAKE THESE,DISGUSTING.
I really sick down and out. I do take sastin 💊. Most day to day am having a hard time. I get weak, rashes or hive.
Thank you Dr JJ!
Thank you it was a great help understanding some of the side effects my statin use was causing. After a week of not taking my statins my well being is so much better and I feel very good practically in a number of different ways.
I have very high cholesterol, I'm over seventy and will never ever take a statin. I consume no glucose at all and consider myself safe. No pain, no health problems.
Not arguing against any of the side effects you noted, but a heart attack leading to death from high cholesterol is far worse!
Cholesterol is the band aid that your body puts on the scars in your arteries from oxidation, inflammation, glycation and stress. Quit taking the statins and quit eating sugars, starches, vegetable (seed) oils, and processed foods. Those are the things causing inflammation, oxidation, glycation and the heart attacks, not the cholesterol.
Extremely rare compared to life long side effects from statins including fast onset of memory loss due to reduced q10. Dont believe the pharma scare mongering. My brother was on statins and anti hypertensives guess what 2 strokes and a major heart attack!
Yes, that's why I am considering starting statins.
Yep.. people don't realize some people NEED those statin drugs...but there's a lot of people who think they know everything and won't listen to reason
Statins have completely damaged my muscles and caused tremendous back pain. Makes all muscles ache and makes you feel old!! The drug companies should be charged for the criminal act of even putting this drug on the market.,
Yes, its likely killed a lot of people as well.
My husband was diagnosed with rhabdomyolysis... was having back pain & other issues ! Got lab work & he was in full blown kidney failure 😟 was going to have to start dialysis! But fortunately as soon as he stopped rosuvastatin & fenofibrate, they flushed his kidneys with saline by IV, labs started returning to normal ! So fortunate they said it was the combination of statins & fenofibrate ! Good luck
Agree! My husband had sudden onset of hip pain, still not convinced that statin did this to him.
@@billhesford6098 ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
Absolutely correct. Statins are the greatest medical scam in human history.
Very helpful thank you. I have been advised to take statins, but I have low cholesterol, low alcohol, I don’t smoke and I exercise regularly, but it’s being advised as ‘precaution’ and I just don’t want to take them.
Similar to me .I was on a highish dosage after they found my cholesterol level was high. After 15 years I've had my level checked 3 times only .My mam had heart disease so this was precautionary..I started experiencing tingling in my hands & toes so reduced it to 1 tablet in the evening. I've had muscle problems for years but I'm on a lot of anti convulsant medication so that might be the cause. Like you I don't drink or smoke & regularly exercise., Its impossible to get a doctor's appointment to have my cholesterol levels checked, hopefully you get access to have your cholesterol checked frequently .Good luck whatever you decide to do
@@christinehales4222 thank you Christine, wishing you all the best health.
,Annette is there history of strokes,heart diseases in your family or is it age ,whatever, I would speak to your family ,but don't be persuaded because its ? Family persuasion. or thinking oh the medical people "oh they must know better" strokes cancer are in my family, but I had strokes etc while caring for my old bedridden mother, I didn't think about my health I was going through lots of bad things,unwanted divorce etc etc, and I had a fall,i appeared to fall on back of my neck ,not realizing maybe damage, well by the time I was able to see my doctor (6 weeks) after,I had strokes, etc and was immediately put on blood thinners simvastatin etc as well as being 24 7 carer, you name It i was doing favours for tom dick and Harriet ha ha, if I hadn't offered to cross the road, to reach a retarded neighbour (son) "in case he slipped) because I was the one that did slip over on ice, I'm now 65, but also my slightly older brother had strokes same time,and six months after" he died of same brain disease, I would say if you can manage your health by healthy eating go for it, but as for myself yes I've suffered pains etc from statins but also being cold with blood thinners etc
@@terencebarrett2897 thank you for taking the trouble to write to me Terence. You are so right! I’ve stood firm against the statins and am concentrating on good quality food and exercise. I do feel that we are automatically herded into taking medications for all sorts of things. My mother, who developed vascular dementia, did have a stroke and a bleed on her brain. She did have high cholesterol, but she also had a lot of trauma that brought on the stroke even though she was in statins. I looked after her for 13 years and put her on fruit, veg and fish during which time she came off one of her blood thinners and her health improved dramatically until Covid got her.
I’m sorry you have had such a bad time. People never know how much it takes out of you to care for others and how your own self and health disappears during that time. I really wish you well and that 2023 brings you health and happiness and a more peaceful time. All my good wishes to you. X
@@Nettsinthewoods thanks Annette you are a beautiful kind lady' God bless you and your family' ,and I hope to speak to you again, you take care
I have moderate, cough variant asthma. The first time I started on a statin, I awoke early in the morning with an asthma attack which responded to Albuterol. I reported it to my PCP, who said Statins aren’t known to do this. I tried a different statin, and it happened again. I did some study on reported side effects, and did find this was seen in asthma patients at times. The only risk factors I have you reported are hypothyroidism and my body type is thin.
What can I take instead of statins please
I went to my doctor and complained of muscle aches and shoulder pain. She sent me to a heart doctor and she did bloodwork to see about my muscles and said that was fine then she had me come back and check my bloodwork cause she put me back on 20 mg of Zocor and when I came back, it went up some so I’m gonna put you back on 40 mg and you can just keep coming back in bloodwork I thought well I’m not gonna do that, I’m not traveling miles and miles just for bloodwork. And beginning to think I should just be my own doctor and do what I feel is necess .
It would help to also provide the percentage of patients that are affected by these side-effects vs how many patients find benefit from the statins.
There are a lot of studies of this, but the data is a bit noisy because severity of muscle ache is very subjective. With that caveat, the studies indicate myalgia reports tangling from 1-10%. Serious side-effects, primarily rhabdomyolysis, are extremely rare, less than 0.1%. On the other hand, the benefits for cardiovascular health are well documented and substantial. In other words, the risk-benefit calculation is very, very strongly in favor of statins.
@@tomhanrahan3763 then you have not experienced the arm pain associated with the statins. I have, not fun.
@@xltek1 I’ve studied this class of drugs for many years, and arm pain is not a side-effect I came across. Rhabdo is typically felt in large muscles in legs. But your experience may have been a rare one as well. That does not undermine the vastly positive health benefits for nearly everyone.
@@tomhanrahan3763 we explored different options for source of pain. Nerve problems etc., did physical therapy for all that could be affecting me. No luck. Chiropractor, acupuncture, cupping, no luck. Stopped taking the statins and now pain free.
@@xltek1 Glad to hear that. Sometimes a different drug in the same class will yield different results. Maybe worth a talk with your doctor. Be well.
Don’t avoid healthy foods while on statins but simply avoid statins altogether.
Correct! Treat the cause not the symptom. Doctors have that principle trained out of them. Got a problem we have a pill, pill causing side effects we have pills for that too! People need to wake the fcuk up!
"Don’t avoid healthy foods while on statins but simply avoid statins altogether."
LOL. What "healthy foods" are you talking about? Alcohol? Grapefruit which has sugar and some really nasty phytotoxins? Or "herbal supplements" which not more than a mixture of a large amount of toxin plant compounds?
(I'm not advocation statins, though, and I would never take a one...)
I'm almost 55 yrs old and I'm taking a lot of different medications for several health issues, I have been concerned about this for a few years now. I had a heart attack around 10 years ago, a stent put in there - prescribed statins for that and did take Atorvastatin for probably 9 years...I have since stopped that drug after hearing lots of bad things.
Watching this and the other statin-related videos have been a big eye-opener for me.
Post heart attack I've also been using constantly Metoprolol 23.5mg, Cilazapril 500mcg and Aspirin 100mg.
I was also diagnosed with epilepsy around 20yrs ago after several small petit mal seizures where I simply found myself drifting off very briefly whilst say typing on my computer, I then would immediately have a weird metallic taste in my mouth and the one thing that really stood out with this type of seizure to me was memory loss afterwards, I would notice it a bit later, people told me my eyes briefly rolled back during an event, these small short-acting events would happen maybe once every 6 months or so only and I found myself losing LOTS of memory, friends names and some past events were now wiped from my memory and this hurt because many important things in my life are now erased, people would remind me of stuff and I would feel as though they were talking about someone else, not me...all from a small 30 second or so event! (this type of seizure is not the 'grand mal' seizure for those who think of the throwing of the body around etc). I think it's called a 'Petit mal' seizure.
Thankfully I've been seizure-free since taking Epilim 800mg daily x 2 for probably around 19yrs I guess now. I halved that level down myself to 800mg once only daily as I don't really eat as regularly as I should and needed to have this drug with food - I must admit I can go without food all day easily and only have the dinner meal.
The main health concern that affects me on a daily basis: I suffer from chronic back pain after injuring it at work when I was 22 yrs old and over the years have been on lots of different drugs for it - most of those meds didn't really reduce the pain level for long and would only dull it down a bit, the pain is 24/7 and I'd score it a 12 out of 10 on a pain scale to be honest if I have no pain relief on board which has only happened once in the last 30 odd years. I would always make sure I had pain meds with me if travelling or a public holiday was happening I made sure scripts were sorted so I wouldn't run out.
In the last year I have been using a Fentanyl patch 25mcg for the pain - (started on a 12.5mcg but that wasn't for long maybe a week or two) this larger patch only lasts maybe a day and a half and I'm not wanting to appear to the Dr like some junkie who needs more but truth be told I do need either A: a larger patch that might last longer or B: some other drug entirely?
Before January 2021 I wasn't even aware of the Fentanyl patch, this has only been a recent introduction for me along with a new Doctor who prescribed it, honestly, initially, I thought it was a real godsend, it actually took the pain away entirely!!! -- this felt like all my Xmases had come at once, finally, I could get on with my life and do things physically more demanding that I have been unable to do before, or so I thought at the time anyway - the patch is a slow-release thing that is supposed to release the drug over 3 days (72 hrs) but by end of day 2 I'm in lots of pain again - combined with the Fentanyl I use Sevrodol (morphine)10mg which is supposed to be for 'flare up' pain but I use it daily spaced out evenly from morning till night - along with that I have Gabapentin 1200mg x 3 daily plus Norflex (muscle relaxant) 50mg x 2 daily. I take the Gabapentin, Morphine and Norflex at the same time trying to space out my hours evenly to get an even pain relief time frame over a day.
In this last year, I have been diagnosed with hypothyroidism or an 'underactive thyroid' so I take Levothyroxine 50mcg daily for this.
On top of that in this last year, I have been diagnosed borderline with Gout so I use Allopurinol 100mg daily for that. (I don't regularly drink alcohol by the way...maybe once a year if that)
Speaking on the same subject as Gout I have had kidney stones before and can actually say my back pain is fairly close to the unbearable pain kidney stones produced!
This is obviously a lot of medications right - I feel like crap much of the time usually because of my back pain that isn't really under control as much as I'd desire - the last time I saw my Dr he raised the Fentanyl patch size only but I'm sure I need a higher dose still. I found out this is what many cancer patients are given to combat pain - I'm curious as to what size patches are prescribed so I will research this further.
This video and the other 2 relating to Statins were an even bigger eye-opener for me about the statins than I realised - I'm glad I stopped taking the atorvastatin but to be honest I have no idea what my cholesterol level is now, I have not told my Dr I have stopped the Atorvastatin - he hasn't noticed that I never requested repeats on that drug (not hard to miss I guess considering how many drugs I take).
I am worried my cholesterol might be high as I haven't had any blood tests done for a while (maybe 10 months) - I used to have a 6 monthly blood test and thinking of it now perhaps this was to check maybe the statin levels? Maybe how it's affecting my liver etc?
I had a heart stress test around 3 years ago - all good there. I still get angina now and then, now that's scary!
One minute you're watching TV then suddenly getting chest pain that's increasing - I use Nitrolingual spray for that but there has been the odd "almost ring an ambulance" scenario waiting for the pain to subside or not...
Funny thing is my blood pressure has always been perfect, Drs find that surprising too I think.
Anyhow I'm kind of in limbo of what to do now - I will contact my Dr (that Practice has gone through many Doctors over these last 5 years) and at least get a blood test and tell him I stopped the Statin. I'm very curious about my cholesterol levels. If Dr suggests going back to the statin I'm not sure what the heck I'll do, to be honest, these videos have provided me much greater knowledge, I noticed the side effect if one has hypothyroidism and that's a worry for me as something I can directly relate to - I have had many side effect symptoms I think in the past but to be honest I can't say I have noticed either way if I feel better for stopping the statin really.
I still feel lots of aches and pains - other than my back pain, I know some can be put down to my increasing age too. One issue for me is concentration - I struggle a lot of the time and wonder if I'm losing my marbles somewhat. Wouldn't surprise me 🤣 I must try to keep positive, it's not easy sometimes and I feel for others worse off than me.
If someone can give me some advice that would be great - (if JJ Medicine reads this I hope he could)
I have suffered depression in the past and get bouts of it here and there quite regularly, I'm not sure if it's a case for another medication but I would like to avoid that if I can!...
I get through however but do break down at times for reasons that are beyond what I can identify specifically, financially like many my family are scraping by during these times, that doesn't help the depression.
I own a small business that I've created from scratch, I had to do something or stay unemployed/on disability so I now photograph real estate in my town - photography has always been a hobby, it's not all big dollars either that some reading this might think, it's a small town and I have a small portion of the market, just enough to help earn a living to pay our bills, this is along with my wife's income, of course, she is the primary bread-winner, and because I own a business and I'm not on Disability (like I have been for many years due to my back injury) I am having to pay lots of unforeseen additional charges that come with owning a business - even Dr visits were only $30 before but now I have to pay $80 per visit as technically I'm no longer 'poor' as seen in my country. Trying to get ahead is like one step forward and two steps back it seems.
You try to do what's right and get off an unemployment benefit or disability benefit (like the Govt want you to) then they take any incentive to work away from you by making life harder....that's another story in itself!!!
Apologies to those who think this was long-winded... thanks to those who might understand and can maybe relate to the health issues I've talked about.
Elon - please create a neural plugin that removes my pain for good? 😁 ahh one can but wish...I'll be a guinea pig - just tell me where to sign!
Get off the Gababetin asap!! One of major side effects is memory loss!! I went to Dr because I was having severe memory problems & thought I was losing my mind!!! Dr took me off of it & switched me to Lyrica. The memory loss went away. Been on it for 5 years and no problem.
Watch Statin Nation and Superjuiceme! Two films which changed my life.
Thank you so much for this information. I'm doing polypharmacy, all doctor prescribed for individual ailments. This gives me something to think about and discuss with my doctors.
Doctors know what they studied most of our problems seems to stem from the liver have to detox the liver I am taking milk thistle from my garden one of the doctors described all my symptoms and I said it's this troubling numbness fingers and feet sharp shooting pain spider veins burning feet seems like liver problem so much going on we have to investigate our selves thank God for you tube and some doctors THANKS 👍 GOD BLESS
@@githasingh9010 Thanks for the comments. I'll mention it to my Endo at next appt if I can remember. and God bless you!
I've tried everything to reduce my cholesterol naturally (diet/exercise I haven't had a drop of alcohol in almost 10 years). I started taking a statin as a last resort. I take it at night, and my cholesterol levels are gradually dropping. The only side effect I've noticed is that I make poop soup in the morning.
Maybe try a different brand, I was allergic to one and not another…
@@sweetsongstress7398 ok. Thank you for the advice.
@@alcoholic2412 well, that’s not really advice, it’s just what worked for me when I found out I was allergic to a prescription drug a few years ago! I switched it up with my doctor & felt 100% better. Best of luck friend!
The big issue is that too many doctors push statin drugs, yet according to research done over a 34-year period (1987-2021) from 21 individual studies, it showed that the reduction rate for strokes and heart attacks was less than 1%. This clearly shows that there is more at play than just bad cholesterol. This study was published by JAMA (Journal of the American Medical Association). I tried sharing a link to it, but it seems I'm not allowed. Whatever happened to sharing informative information?
Thank you for posting, I learned some useful information especially other medication interactions.
I have been taking atorvastatin. I feel muscle pain a lot.
The Dr. need to be more educated regarding side effects of those medicines what to eat or not
I just had to have my atorvastatin changed. Terrible muscles pains which built up. Do check with your doc
Me too, crippling pain sometimes and my doctor has never EVER told me that my statin medication could be a factor.
@@dorcasosorio8596 doctors don't care. They get kickbacks to push these ridiculously expensive drugs.
I also take same drug and have muscle pains and it’s true that statins cause this I took a statin holiday for a few weeks and all the aches disappeared
My doctor, Dr. Putz, has never given me ANY information about the side-effects of these types of drugs. Do you also have a Dr. Putz?
Never had a Dr. Putz but did have one who badgered me for years to give up cigarettes , which I finally did....only to have him hound me for another few years to take off my post smoking weight gain. Smh.
@@msr1116 Sounds like he has you best interests at heart. He's no Dr. Putz. He's a Dr. Good-doctor! Good luck with the weight. I went through all that 40 years ago. It was worth it. You can do it!!!
@@stephensmith60 .....well, my point with him was that: Solving one problem only to create another, then regularly pester me about it, won't motivate me to take the weight off. After a while it becomes demoralizing.
@@msr1116 And doctors are human; they don't know everything, and they certainly can't remedy everything. Later.
Most doctors will not do.
Quit statins a year ago! Once you learn about absolute vs actual risk you will too!
Hi Charles, could you give me an example to explain the difference between absolute vs actual risk please?
@@richardwalker8398 Absolute is when you 100% know its going to cause problems even death. Actual risk is when you discover its all a con and your risk is minimal! Pharma company's lie constantly and make up all these stupid risk numbers. Its a game of chance but they want your money so they load the game!
Quitting statins multiplies xxxxxxxxx risk of death
@@ovniproject BULL
@@charlestait5303 I wish to spent a few hours to convince you on a medical basis....but I understand it is very hard to convince you once you had your ideas 💡 ➡️... so sorry bro
I am on rosuvastatin and have not experienced most of these side affects. I had a near fatal heart attack ten years ago, and am on varapimil. I do sometimes have some dizziness, but OTC meclizine seems to take care of that. I also have minor asthma, easily treated with albuterol, so maybe I'm just one of the lucky ones who doesn't seem to have these side affects...so far!
I take rosuvastatin because I have a stint as a result of 80% blockage and valve repair. I am also not experiencing any side effects. Vitamin D is helpful to know.
Did you start with rosuvastatin before or after your MI?
@@btudrus After...
I stopped taking statins because the side effects were too severe....
Evidently it doesn't stop the French, who view statins as a godsend---a green light to continue eating their beloved high fat cheeses.
@@msr1116 Statins did lower my cholesterol levels, but they weren't high to begin with.....🤷🏻♂️
@@msr1116 The French high fat cheeses are made from grass-fed ruminants, which does not contribute to heart disease. Sugar, starch, and O-6 vegetable oils cause inflammation, oxidation, and glycation which along with stress are the true causes of heart disease.
I used to take Crestor, my new GP prescribed me Rovostustatin. A friend advised me statins are bad. I am going to see my GP and start back on the crestor to lower my cholseterol. Thanks for the sound advice.
Rosuvastatin is the generic form of Crestor. They are the same.
@@LE-bz7kr Okay, thanks. I will need to sort something else out. My cholesterol is not really diet related. It is hereditary.
I am pretty sure that taking Atorvastatin AND Metoprolol are causing me to have VERY low blood pressure, which cause my AFIB to trigger, and or give me weird pumping activity in the heart, but that is intermittent, and usually will mellow out in a couple of hours. Nonetheless, I am getting tired of ALL of these meds, because I have to worry virtually all of the time, if my heart afib will trigger when I need to be out doing stuff! I don't know about most, but when my AFIB switch turns on, I want/need to lay down ASAP to bring it back to normal rhythm, instead of 150 BPM!!!!! :( (oh, and it SEEMS a Vitamin D supplement triggers my AFIB too, anyone else have this????)
I take both and it has caused low blood pressure. It now seems to be causing severe depression. I take Vitamin D. I think I need to get rid of the statin.
I'm on Heart medication.. Sometimes my body shakes like a vibrator.. I Hate when it happens as I don't know what really causes it. Great side effect. But don't worry, It's safe.. So my Dr. says..
@@terryhazelett2105 YES!!!! Statins are very bad for you!
Hey dont worry they have a pill for that too.......Get off them!
Look into magnesium deficiency
My mother got diabetes and cognitive decline from statins. I stopped her pills and her diabetes reversed in three months. Her cognitive decline partly recovered. Cardiologist prescribed her statins with zero heart risks.
Since cholesterol has never been proven to cause heart attacks, why would you ever take statins???
Exactly!
There are studies supporting the claim that certain statins (Lipitor/atorvastatin is the one I recall from a number of years ago) reduce heart disease/stroke. In biochemistry, one has to be careful about “cause”, but there is extremely high correlation and chemical causation linking statins to lower incidence of heart disease that is associated with heart attack. There is no doubt that lower LDL is healthy, and statins lower LDL quite effectively.
@@tomhanrahan3763 ...there are various types of LDL, some are not dangerous at all...the test used to count LDL is not detailed enough to make a definitive call on how dangerous it is. It’s like saying all Fire is dangerous and should be extinguished-but by doing so, you’d also have to eradicate beneficial fires used for heat, light & cooking. Statins lessen the body’s ability to manufacture cholesterol ...including the good cholesterol necessary for health & life.
@@boatsie Not exactly correct. Statins inhibit the enzyme that is key to producing cholesterol in the liver and thus allow the liver to absorb more cholesterol in the blood, where it can be very dangerous. But the liver will always produce as much cholesterol as the body needs. That’s why it is saggy to focus on the sdLDL even though there are other less worrisome LDL subtypes. Oddly, statins generally have the effect of increasing HDL, the often-called “good cholesterol.”
@@tomhanrahan3763 ..let me get this straight...the liver will produce all the cholesterol the body needs, yet statins inhibit the enzyme that the liver requires to produce cholesterol? How is this good?... sounds like a “chicken or the egg” riddle.
I have taken this medicine since 2004 haven't noticed any bad side effects the one. My doctor gave me seems to be working for me.. we should know what percentage having bad side effects. Doctors nurse informed me about certain foods not to eat grape jam or jelly etc. . Used for alcohol making... my gallbladder gave me more trouble right after surgery now I eat what I want in moderation.. almost.. noticed foods are more spicy lately now that will give me some problems.. I hate it when they do that.. older people thats a no no. Most of them anyway.. The names he gave out I wonder if they were brands. I need help. Protected my heart clogging up. These are interesting videos for us to give some thought and be xareful what we eat and our medications thank you.
5-2-2024 started taking Atorvastatin. Since then my blood platelets have dropped 60%, brain fog, sore muscles, headaches. Stopped taking on July 1st, 2024. Will provide updates of what happens.
There are many reasons not to takes this drug, I suffered muscle pain and was harder to control my blood sugar, best thing to do is get off them as I did and I no longer have these side effects
I have muscle aches for years and refused to take statin drugs, and now my doctor won’t give me anything for cholesterol lowering. So, who is the child here it’s her job to help the patients out.
Thank you for the info. I have been on Coumadin (warfarin) for the last 14 years and rarely have had a good lipid profile. After a month of taking statins, I was experiencing myalgia, drowsiness and inflammation in certain joints. Until I spoke to a friend, who also took statins, they also had some of the same effects, however, they mostly experienced migraines. I spoke to my DR. and have been put off statins for 3 weeks to a month, and will start another type (brand). I just wanted to thank you for an enlightening lecture, for I never knew that warfarin itself could possibly contribute to the problems. I will try the new medication within a month or so, however, if it comes to quitting statins or warfarin, I'll chose the statin: for twice in my life I have had pulmonary emboli twice within a ten years period, and must keep my INR between 2 and 3. I will discuss this with him should the same side effects start to occur. Thank you.
Thanks..... I use Atorvastatin for lowering high triglycerides
....Along with vitamin k2+D3....
Nice to hear that K2 doesn’t prohibit Atorvastatin...
High triglycerides simply means you're eating too many carbs - or tooo much popcorn, chips, rice, beans, bread, barley, etc. Cut that down and your tg's will plummet!
@@stevejensen3471 only too much rice dear......
Stop taking statins. Lower triglycerides by not eating sugar, flour, vegetable oils and processed foods.
"Nice to hear that K2 doesn’t prohibit Atorvastatin..."
What you mean by "prohibit"? 🤣🤣🤣 It is the other way, actually. Atorvastatin *inhibits* the production of K2 (and Vit-D) in your body. So by giving your body K2 (and D) you just replenish what has been lost by taking statins...
@@stevejensen3471 "High triglycerides simply means you're eating too many carbs - or tooo much popcorn, chips, rice, beans, bread, barley, etc. Cut that down and your tg's will plummet!"
It's the sugar (sucrose=table sugar or any other combination of fructose & glucose such as the HFCS) which is the biggest problems. Starch & glucose is not bening either, but it is the sugar what makes the most damage...
Cholesterol medication can also cause memory loss or add to it if the person has had a heart attack.
Correct.
I got so bad I thought I had dementia.....stopped Statins and within 60 days saw a huge improvement.....
@@ahope4u2 Omg. I'm getting so bad, I was going to have my doc test me for dementia. Forgetful, fogging head, can't make decisions or understand questions. I never dreamed it might be the statins.
You have said the word SO a hundred times.
@@danirietdorf5242 I have fibromyalgia. I stopped cold turkey taking pain meds after 20 years. I started drinking matcha, ginger, and turmeric teas, my muscles no lower hurt and my joints feel better. Inflammation in my body in less. I was worried staying on pain meds. I do take vitamin D. I now garden and can my food.
SO!
I prefer avoiding Statins and taking grapefruit.
me too, and ditto alcohol
Not if it save your live in my family people fall dead on age 30 now with statins not anymore
@@okidoki878 ,, Did you know that grapefruit in essence is like a Statin drug ? That is why it is NOT recommended whilst on a Statin. It increases the serum levels in the blood and technically alters the prescribed dosage of Statin .
"I prefer avoiding Statins and taking grapefruit"
I prefer avoidin statins and avoiding grapefruit and any other fruit and vegetables and other plant-sht...
@@okidoki878 "Not if it save your live in my family people fall dead on age 30 now with statins not anymore"
There are much better ways, like completely avoiding sugar and carbohydrates...
After a year of prescribed Atorvastatin and the increase in pain to my shoulder and hip I discontinued. I’d rather live with cholesterol then die from the pains I suffered for almost one year Pain I never experienced in my life . It’s been only a week and the pains and aches have subsided greatly.
I wonder how long would you experience these side effects after you stop taking these drugs? Because I have stopped for over a month now and I still feel dizzy everytime I walk or even when I am sitting at rest. I also have tingling hands and feet, random headaches, muscles pains, and chest pains.
I feel like my life was so much better before started taking them.
How many milligrams where Those statins, and how long you taking them before you quit ?
@@petercofrancesco1620 It was 20 mg each and I took them for two weeks before I decided to stop it.
@@supernarl , I've been off rosuvastatin 20 mg since late December 2021 , I had a 90-day supply, three months Worth . I took it for 11 weeks because early December, my ears started to ring and then about the eighth of the 8th Of December Non stop. My stupid doctor, should have took me off of that 20 mg rosuvastatin poison. I did it myself. ENT, ears are clear, audiologist right ear good , left ear high-frequency 85% hearing loss with tinnitus to follow. I feel that the 20m rosuvastatin triggered my permanent tinnitus. I have aches and pains, anxiety and stress, followed by insomnia. I have ear fullness in both ears, plus the pains that follows with it. It doesn't take a doctor to find out because of these symptoms , I was fine before I took rosuvastatin 20 mg. It's been seven long agonizing months. Tinnitus could be a crippling between night hours and morning throughout the day of tasks. I'd ever heard of tinnitus until it happened to me.
@@petercofrancesco1620 Same. It's very agonizing. How are you feeling now?
@@supernarl , Terrible , It's Getting Worse ! Dr's. ENTS, EMR , Hospitals. Know Very little To Nothing About Tinnitus , Audiologist Most Know About Statin, Nerve , Muscle ,Tendon Damage . Please Do Keeps In Touch . Best Of Health ,And A Total Speedy Recovery For Us Tinnitus Sufferers. Pete .
Thankful for your site. My doctor's nurse scolded me when I put up resistance to statins, implying that not only did I ruin my health and cause my heart disease but now I am not willing to cooperate to fix it?? She would not tell me the name of the lab test so I can find out do I have mostly tiny, harmful LDLs or do I have the OK big, fluffy ones? Because apparently statins take out the big fluffy ones. I have so much to learn and not getting help from my cardiology group.
Thank You for these insights! I admit I didn't know half of them 😅 I will definitely share it with my colleagues !
I think we must always ask patients about over-the-counter drugs and herbal medicines.
P.S.: I have spoken to many people who are on statins before consulting my DR, and all five have experienced one side effect or another. It's a wonder that it is not only used for people who have bypass or other types of cardiac surgery.
And these are reasons why I stopped with the statins and will be talking with my doctor about statin alternatives
Statins is a disaster for the body...I stoped taking it every thing got better with my health.
...I’ll save you a trip/co-pay: Statin alternative = cut out sugar & processed carbs; enjoy protein & beneficial saturated fats; get adequate vitamin D (from sunny walks preferably); lower stress; try for 7 hours of sleep a night.
@@boatsie Absolutely great advice!!!
I have been taking statins for over 20 years and have not avoided any food or drink as a result!
Statins are largely a con for the benefit of pharma companies and corruptible researchers. Tell your doc to do one like I did.
Actually mine told me yesterday to up carb intake for fatty liver. You literally couldn't make it up.
Unbelievable!! Statins are a con for Big Pharma based on the long-held myth started by Dr. Ancel Keyes that fat was the cause of heart attacks. That myth triggered the no eggs, lean meat, low-fat craze that let the sugar and margarine crowd give the heart doctors all the work they could handle. Time to find another doctor that prescribes good foods like cruciferous veggies, fermented foods like sauerkraut and kefir and fatty(O-3) fish, grapefruit, grapes, avocados, nuts for a fatty liver.
Thank you for this information 🙂
Hello 👋 how’re you doing?
Is all of the coQ 10 effect tube and how many MGs should I take
Absolutely wonderful information, and do you know completely everything you want, and have to put in to words,information, 'answers to questions on numerous forms to justify your illness's ,,it gets absolutely tearful heartbreaking,especially when you've had strokes,brain disease's etc where a yes or no answer would help you",,100% "rather than one question needing answers a page long,,
Would affects by other medications and supplements be less if those medications and supplements were taken at a different time of the day from the statin?
been on daily atorvastatin now for over 6 weeks and am not having any side effects whatsoever. I am also taking a Coenzyme Q10 tablet daily.
what dosis ?
Great, I'm female, have had hypothyroid for about 20 years, I survived septic shock which injured my kidneys. Three years later I'm back in ICU with sepsis AND Rhabdomyolisis, which was the 2nd injury to my kidneys since the rhabdo causes muscle enzymes to be released into the blood stream, clogging the kidneys. Simvastatin was what was considered the culprit that started that disaster. Since then I've also had a pulmonary embolism and heart attack, and they won't put dye in me for anything. Please learn how to pronounce Rhabdomyolisis, 6 syllables as I was corrected by Lynn Robinson. I don't know how I thought it was anything BUT 6 syllables is beyond me.
rhab do my o lis is, 6 syllables. No matter how you pronounce it, it is still 6 syllables.
@@lynnrobinson8885 You are right, don't ask me what I was thinking. I had read your comment before looking to see that you were responding to me and as I was thinking about it, I was like "yep, 6 syllables, who is arguing that?" And I see I screwed up. I'm going to edit it because I'm a bit embarrassed by that.
Very informative thanks
One day I am going to die. I'll not spend what remains of my life in futile efforts to avoid that thresh hold. I'll pass on the stats and opt for the grapefruit. Send me a post card in a hundred years.
That’s the spirit !! Love the advice
My Dr suggested a statin when my cholesterol was mildly elevated. I decided to try and reduce it with better diet and I started taking a Red yeast rice supplement. Three months later my levels are down, not sure which contributed the most but I’ll keep doing both.
"started taking a Red yeast rice supplement" - which is basically the same sht as statins are...
@@btudrus yeah it contains a lower dose of lovastatin than prescription medications. Still wise to have the same regular tests.
Thanks,Red Yeast Rice? Never heard of it..will be researching
Thank you. Since i felt their side effects on me.I stop my statin.
Excellent information!
I don't think too many people are losing sleep over not having grapefruit 😬
Just avoid statins altogether
No don't avoid them. Refuse to take them at all. They are a slow burn and no matter who you are you will eventually develop night cramps, and general weakness and you won''t even notice till it's too late.
If you have hypocholestoralaemia ( very high cholesterol levels dye to genetic factors) then this is the only situation to take statinsm specially if you have had angioplasty/ surgery in oast or there is a history of heart disease in family
The most important thing to avoid is the statin itself. The next thing to avoid is the baby aspirin. Cholesterol is manufactured by the body. It is not found in junk food.
One advice is don't take a statin if your LDL is 300 or under and never take the prescribed dose because it is always unnecessarily high and will cause some damage to the body. Two or three doses per week are sufficient, in many cases only one dose per week is sufficient to lower LDL without the statin poisoning the body to the degree that it otherwise does. The chances of not having a heart attack when taking a statin are one in 400 and the increased longevity is by 1.5 days after taking a statin for ten years. When doctors say that risks are reduced by 25 percent or more, they are using big pharma's relative figures not the absolute true number.
Glad I found your Channel before Pharmacology becomes even more wordy
Anyone get left stomach pains that goes to their left side and back?
Oh dear, so the 12 odd meds I take alongside my Afvorstatin and Canoflogozin is a bit of a naughty no no, Omeprazole, Amlodipine, three anti-depressants of Venlafaxine, Mirtazapine and Amitriptyline plus 30mg of MST and my Metformin... I distinctly asked my doctors if this cocktail would be OK and was assured no problemo. I had a few years back the full monty of a 9 hour triple bypass operation which has not ended as well as hoped and I suffer from serious sternum pain and last year was told they only did one side and I still need the other side done because of Covid they couldn't arrange stents and now that boat has sailed and its back on the slab again :(
You've a great sense of humor sounds like you will do fine...made ME laugh...😂🙏 For each other anyways....I have ❤️ numerous issues also...
I was recently put on statins because my labs were showing an increase in cholesterol. I had begun to notice an increase in some of the side effects though I didn't know that at the time until I started doing the research. I didn't need all this when I was riding my bicycle everyday and hiking. When my activity levels fell, I saw a rise in in things such A1C and cholesterol. Now I see that "intense" exercise is discouraged. I do HIIT exercises to stay as fit as I can at age 73. The long period of reduced activity due to the pandemic didn't help. It seems like a no win. Right now I'm making diet adjustments but I see no benefit in giving up exercise.
Thank you for your information.
My research has lead me to discontinue my statin and baby aspirin. It’s only been a week. My Muscle ache stop my swelling hands stop, bruising was a problem, dry eyes, and my eye vision is back prior to statin.
I am 77 years young-only
been on medication for routine illnesses here and there.
I believe in natural herbs.
Going to continue my live doing the things I enjoy skiing, hiking, riding my bike and traveling. With God’s help and the education of my FP Dr. and my Dr. of NH…My wish is
for another 20 plus years, to enjoy my family and this wonderful world.
You are 73. You will be dead soon don’t worry about it.
I get a monthly shot of Sandostatin for Neuroendocrine Carcinoma (Stage 4 Inoperable Double Lung Cancer).
I have been taking Atorvastatin for about 2 years and just recently i started getting leg and arm pain. So i will get back to this but here is a somewhat condensed version of how i started taking this statin and i am open to all comments as i am trying to determine what direction to go in. I am in my 50's pretty healthy and active. Play ice hockey, walk/light jog on the treadmill for at least an hour. I am also a full time drummer which keeps me very active. So not sure if anyone has ever heard of a company called life line. Its a company that goes around from town to town and tests you as to what your chances are of having a stroke or heart attack in 5 years or more. I am very health aware so i thought it would be a good idea to see how i make out. There was no other reason except being curious. Results come back and it says i have inflammation so i go to my cardiologist. He says he didn't put to much clout in that test but he said you never know and he suggested i take a CT Calcium score test. Turns out the way the doctor described it i have the beginning of a few small plaque deposits and he suggested i take the statin and a baby aspirin. This was all new to me so i went online and saw lots of stories like the ones in this forum and i called him back and told him. He got kind of upset with me and said i hate when my patients read this stuff online. I said doctor these people aren't paid actors and are telling what their experiences have been taking a statin. He said i can't tell you to take them or not take them. So i am the kind of person who isn't convinced easy so i went to another cardiologist and he said the same thing. I still wasn't happy so i remembered my mom had a really good cardiologist so i went and chatted with him. He said he did believe in using statins but also likes using supplements and believes in diet and excercise. So he gave me a stress test, ultra sound of my heart before and after the stress test and a tilt table test all of which came back fine. So here is my question. I hear everyone talking about taking statins for cholesterol. My cholesterol was 170 when this all started so it wasn't that bad. So if you have plaque deposits and a statin is the way the docs treat it what else can you take to keep this under control? Has anyone on this forum had a CT Calcium score test? If you did and found you had deposits what are you doing if your not taking statin? I eat pretty well and do take Ubiquinol CQ 10 200 Mg once a day. I take Acetyl L-Carnitine 1000 Mg, Alpha Lipoic Acid 600 Mg, K2+D3, L-Methylfolate 7.5 Mg, Beet Root Extract 500 Mg, Super vitamin B Complex. I also take Vitamin D. Besides these supplements i take Omeprazole 40 Mg, Fish Oil, Fenofibrate 134 Mg, Amlodipine 10 Mg. I forgot to say the statin is 40 Mg and i take it at night. Sorry for the long post but i want to let you know this is what i am taking so you can give me an honest opinion. Thanks for listening!
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@@franklinstephen3268 I am doing well. Thanks
Thank you!!!
Avoid or limit exercise? Couldn’t be more incorrect.
Are multiple vitamins contraindicated while on statins ie, Crestor?
Why would you take such a nonsense?
What about the problem of high cholesterol?
High cholesterol is not a problem. That has been proven over and over in peer-reviewed studies from around the world, The Canadian Nurses Study, the meta-analysis of may studies in Japan, the meta-analysis at Harvard, and others. Cholesterol is manufactured in the liver as a necessary solution to many of the needs your body has, including the most important one of all for people who eat the "western diet." Cholesterol covers the scarring in the arteries caused by inflammation, oxidation and glycation from eating sugars, starches and vegetable oils. Yes there is cholesterol in the plaque in arteries. But the fault is in the sugars, starches and O-6 oils that caused the damage to the artery walls, not the cholesterol in the plaque that is patching up the damage.
@@jackfanning7952 well said !!!
@@jackfanning7952 mmm..🤔
"What about the problem of high cholesterol?"
High cholesterol is only a problem when it is caused by insulin resistance / hyperinsulinaemia. Stop eating sugar and other carbohydrates and in that setting even a high blood levels of cholesterol are not a problem, but are beneficial.
Insulin is what causes heart attack and stroke, not cholesterol per se.
Thanks so much for the information
Based on science and the many negative statin side effects it sure seems one should avoid statins rather then any eatable whole food. Just sayin.
Agree entirely. I stopped taking simvastatin about two years ago. No problem. I have grapefruit to help keep my cholesterol levels down, not that they were ever high. Doc thought it was a good idea to take simvastatin.
@@davidmorris2164 ...no surprise there...the doc & his medical conglomerate don’t receive any kickbacks from the grapefruit growers.
@@boatsie .....my European mother thought American doctors were the biggest drug pushers around. She said you weren't even done explaining your ailment and already he began scribbling on his prescription pad.... A pill for every problem, both real and perceived.
@@msr1116 ...your mom’s observations are correct. Too many “Doctors” are trained to treat as many symptoms with drugs as they can find during the 7 minutes they are given to see each patient. Then during follow-up 7-minute visit 3 months hence, they prescribe more drugs to treat the side effects experienced from the first batch of drugs the patient received....rinse & repeat for the patient’s lifetime into a slow & debilitating death.
Keep in mind that while some people will experience side effects of statin, ranging from mild to severe, the incidence of side effects is very rare. There’s a danger in trying to generalize from anecdotes. That said, it is good to ask doctors questions and weigh the risks. BTW, the assumption that doctors get “kickbacks” from drug manufacturers never had much credibility, and has none now that all these statins are available as generics.
Avoid only grapefruit or also other citrus?
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Very good .
Any information on Atorvastatin and NMN? Apparently Atorvastatin prevents shortening of telomeres, but I take NMN as well. I've noticed that there seems to be some sort of push/pull effect between them, but can't quite work it out. I stopped the statins for a week due to having run out and experienced increased skin smoothness within 20 minutes of taking NMN, but back on statins I have increased side effects but also the increased energy levels from NMN. It's as if the statin is decreasing some effects, increasing others, but also causing side effects when on NMN. I've already decreased my doseage of statins and I recently took a 10th of the NMN I usually take (100mg instead of 1g) to find it worked better. So is it a matter of finding the right balance or should I quit statins?
Good to know it.Thanks
@@nancyhollo4589 Nicotinamide Mononucleotide. The body converts Niacin into Nicotinamide Riboside (NR) then to NMN which in turn helps to create NAD, needed by every cell in the body. Without it you're dead, but we lose NAD as we age. It reverses cellular ageing. Would have to take dangerous levels to get it from Niacin. Some people prefer NR, I think NMN is the bees knees.
I have a friend that developed dementia from taking lipotor for 6 years. I do not understand why the fab hasn’t taken this drug off the market..there are so many side effects that are dangerous to your health.
With so many medications, and several stating similar side effects concern, one does not know whom to trust, the doctors who may not read all the literature, the drug manufactures whose dominant concern is to push the sales of the drug, or all those in between who profit from these borderline “fear- induced medications”. So help us Lord!
Just visit your medical practitioner, do not read frighteners online. Yes reading up on the effects of various medications maybe helpful, but in most instances medications have been prescribed for a reason and I’m not talking greater profits for pharma. Statins have been proved to guard against strokes and heart attacks, that’s good enough for me and luckily I haven’t got any side effects.
That’s my husbands opinion exactly and he has no side effects either. I’m keen not to take them, and lowered my cholesterol levels with a changed diet and Red yeast rice supplements.
I have a fatty liver don't and haven't drank alcohol. I'm on 10mg Crestor. Is it okay to take Milk Thistle to keep Crestor from ruining my liver?
Statins are taking years off of my life they are made from Pit Viper venum
Have been medicated into oblivion & liver disease greatly exacerbated by the medications I've been hammered with!
Statins are truly dangerous, find an alternative !
Yes!!! The alternative is to avoid foods (sugars, starch, vegetable oils) that cause the inflammation, oxidation and glycation which are the real causes of heart disease.
@@jackfanning7952 and some of it is hereditary as well I just found plain potato and cucumber elevate cholesterol peanut butter too
@@elizabethcooney389 Cholesterol has nothing to do with the cause of heart disease.
Yup, healthy diet & mod exercise. Check cholesterol LDL/HDL levels twice a year to gauge stability/reduction,etc.
@@horizons2358 Hmmm? Blaming cholesterol for atherosclerosis is like blaming the firemen putting out the fire in your house. Cholesterol and fibrin in the plaque in your arteries is putting out the fire of the inflammation, oxidation and stress (from sugar and rancid vegetable oils in the western diet) that causes scarring and cracks in the arteries.
Measuring cholesterol does nothing to measure the risk for heart disease. It is like looking for your car keys under the street light in an otherwise dark parking lot when you lost your keys on the opposite end of the parking lot.
So when my doctor prescribed a statin for blood pressure and a statin for cholesterol whi8le still recovering from a food poisoning incident was maybe not such a good idea. I had severe side effects.
Find another doctor that does not prescribe statins.
Why would any one take these there are Too many problems
I cannot take any of the statins. I get the myalgia from them to the point that I have trouble with my legs and pain.
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Hi, I'm currently taking Rosiuvastatin 20mg daily. I don't like taking this med. Has anyone had issues taking this medication?
Taking the same one. No side effects
Hey, I thought Warfarin was used to kill rats ( !) by making them bleed to death. Be careful folks.
What if you take any of these topically (on the skin), such as fluconazole? Would that interact with the statins in some way?
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