It's a given that with any new Lap Steel , you need to replace the string like objects , with a proper set for your prefered tuning . The HB on the Epi is wound such that it is capable of good bright clean tones . Unless you are primarily playing heavy distorted blues rock , the P-90 on the RK is much more versatile than their dark HB . The RK Steels randomly come with either solid or slotted Headstock. Doesn't make a difference in the playing Conspicuous in its absence in this market segment , is the Gretsch 5700
Hello friend, what is the tuning of your instrument? As a reference from the thinnest rope to the thickest rope, from high to low it would be, thanks for giving me that information in advance
Both instruments are tuned to Open D in the video. Epiphone should have been tuned to Open E. Just wanted to switch back and forth between instruments and play the same thing.
1. Yes , these are * Different * , and are their own instruments . Other than both having strings , very little to no carryover from conventional Armpit Guitar 2. Whatever string like objects come with them from the factory , they should imeadately be discarded and replaced with approprate gage strings for your intended Tuning . There are a wide plethors of tuningd , many of them requiring strings . Manufacturers can't read your mind , and often as not ship with whatever they ship with regular electic guitars . 3. In your videos I've watched I didn't hear you explicitly say what gages you use , but when you discussed strings generally , everything you talked about was waaaay too light . You're not fretting or string bending . You want the strings to be firm under the tone bar . For open D/E/G & usually A , a good starting point are Dobto gages ( ie 16- 56 ) , for a full 25 inch scale length . For these shorter scaled it can still be loose , and you could want heavier . ( The typical C6 tunings have very different gages , and specific C6 string sets ) No , you won't find Lap Seel strings at regular music stores. . You'll have to order them . If you know what you want , the usual intermet sellers of only strings will have a good selection . If you're starting out , Morrell Music of Bristol , TN marks their sets for the relavent tunings , and have helpful website . As to scale length , oversimplified - Full Length is 25 inch , csrriec over from the predecesor instfumemt. Short varies , but thnk 22.5 inch +/- an inch . Shiorter helps facilitates radical slants within the limits of the human wrist . Longer ( in theory )helps intonation slightly , but in real life is usually Dobro players who want to match muscle memory , and to fascilitate switching back snd forth song to song , between Steel snd Dobro .
At this price point having more than one would make it easier to experiment with different tunings. After you settle on a tuning, would there be a reason to have guitars tuned to more than one, though?
@@susancallhutchisongoodoldtunes I have a regular guitar permanently in Nashville tuning. I don’t see why it wouldn’t be great to also do something like this with lap steel. As a noob, one will do for now though 😄
With either one, you'll probably switch out the pickup. On style, the Epi, hands down. The Recording King body and head shapes are not handled artistically, and the white fretboard against a sunburst top looks cheap.
Sounds really good for just getting started! Thanks for the comparison 😊
Thanks, greatly appreciated 😃
Excellent video! TY
Thanks!
thank you for making this- I was torn between the two and was leaning towards the Epi.
You are most welcome 🤗
Sounds Great I have The Recording King with P-90 Pickup
Thanks! I’m sure that’s also a great option 👍
I have the Recording King, I love it
Same here 😊
I believe you are correct- the Epiphone strings are very light. I had to switch them for C6 tuning as they were too light.
It's a given that with any new Lap Steel , you need to replace the string like objects , with a proper set for your prefered tuning .
The HB on the Epi is wound such that it is capable of good bright clean tones . Unless you are primarily playing heavy distorted blues rock , the P-90 on the RK is much more versatile than their dark HB .
The RK Steels randomly come with either solid or slotted Headstock. Doesn't make a difference in the playing
Conspicuous in its absence in this market segment , is the Gretsch 5700
@@user-uc5sn4tp3f thanks for the info- I am new to the instrument.
King sounds better to me 😊
Same here, although I can see some people really digging that P-90 as well.
What even makes one lap steel different from another? They're the easiest instrument to make there is. I've made several and they all sounded great.
Hello friend, what is the tuning of your instrument? As a reference from the thinnest rope to the thickest rope, from high to low it would be, thanks for giving me that information in advance
Both instruments are tuned to Open D in the video. Epiphone should have been tuned to Open E. Just wanted to switch back and forth between instruments and play the same thing.
Boa noite como faço para adquirir uma guitarra havaiana dessa preço obrigado!
Sorry can’t help you there. Check your local store or online shops.
I would stick to the Eppy, but install a tremolo and perhaps lighter flat wound strings. Everything else is in the effects you use.
A tremolo or a bender? Really liked the Epiphone, but ended up keeping the RK. Here’s why th-cam.com/video/rKtx-5XIOfY/w-d-xo.html
It is a tremolo.
Interesting. Why you’d want to install a tremolo on a lap steel when you can have the same effect by wiggling the tone bar?
@@rootstudio247 Because it is done with the other hand. For me it helps my arthritis.(I'm 72)
@@myfavoritemartian1 ah, makes sense.
The Recording King sounded much better.
Thanks, I agree.
1. Yes , these are * Different * , and are their own instruments . Other than both having strings , very little to no carryover from conventional Armpit Guitar
2. Whatever string like objects come with them from the factory , they should imeadately be discarded and replaced with approprate gage strings for your intended Tuning .
There are a wide plethors of tuningd , many of them requiring strings . Manufacturers can't read your mind , and often as not ship with whatever they ship with regular electic guitars .
3. In your videos I've watched I didn't hear you explicitly say what gages you use , but when you discussed strings generally , everything you talked about was waaaay too light . You're not fretting or string bending . You want the strings to be firm under the tone bar .
For open D/E/G & usually A , a good starting point are Dobto gages ( ie 16- 56 ) , for a full 25 inch scale length . For these shorter scaled it can still be loose , and you could want heavier .
( The typical C6 tunings have very different gages , and specific C6 string sets )
No , you won't find Lap Seel strings at regular music stores. . You'll have to order them .
If you know what you want , the usual intermet sellers of only strings will have a good selection .
If you're starting out , Morrell Music of Bristol , TN marks their sets for the relavent tunings , and have helpful website .
As to scale length , oversimplified - Full Length is 25 inch , csrriec over from the predecesor instfumemt. Short varies , but thnk 22.5 inch +/- an inch .
Shiorter helps facilitates radical slants within the limits of the human wrist .
Longer ( in theory )helps intonation slightly , but in real life is usually Dobro players who want to match muscle memory , and to fascilitate switching back snd forth song to song , between Steel snd Dobro .
Thank you for the insightful comment - greatly appreciated 👍
Both (?)
Not a bad idea 😁
At this price point having more than one would make it easier to experiment with different tunings. After you settle on a tuning, would there be a reason to have guitars tuned to more than one, though?
@@susancallhutchisongoodoldtunes I have a regular guitar permanently in Nashville tuning. I don’t see why it wouldn’t be great to also do something like this with lap steel. As a noob, one will do for now though 😄
my recording king came with a bone nut, are you sure yours is plastic?
Certainly looks and feels like plastic.
th-cam.com/video/HvsbH9DtawE/w-d-xo.html
According to him it's bone.
Thanks for pointing that out. I’ll make a correction video about that (and another thing I found, too).
I dont care for the white fret board on the RK.Asthetics do come into play for me, unfortunately.
The Epihone is definitely the prettier guitar.
King sounds better to me too
With either one, you'll probably switch out the pickup. On style, the Epi, hands down. The Recording King body and head shapes are not handled artistically, and the white fretboard against a sunburst top looks cheap.
Totally agree on the looks. But I dig the RK pickup sound, see next video.
Neither - both these are duds imo. Their scale length is too short, string spacing too narrow and pups are poor
A bit strict perhaps. Don’t think these are useless, but if you can spend more, yes, you deserve a better instrument.