Gear vid production. Good to see some classic British weather too, so many trips end up like this 🙂 Nice to your kit being put to the test along with the bikes so thanks for info at the end on that too. Look forward to part 2
Liked the video...wise move to camp near a pub in that kind of weather...From previous reviews, most have said that the Honda is better on the road, and that the Suzi is better on the off road/trails. I currently own the Suzi, and find it to be a snappy riding machine on road, with lots of torque and the ability to go whichever direction you want, when you push on the handlebar. Better tires than stock would make it a much better off road machine. Depends on riders taste and use though.
Thanks Richard. If that was the feedback from other reviews, not sure I'd agree to be honest. Wait till episode 2, but personally, I find the Suzuki more confidence inspiring on road with a more connected front tyre feeling. It is also more plush on gravel type roads, but I am sure the Transalp would be more capable in more technical off road terrain and is definitely easier to chuck around. The Dunlop trailmax raid control tyres we fitted were phenomenal, awesome wet road grip and very good grip off road for an adventure tyre. Thanks, Aaron KNOX
Mr Mossy! Great see you here! This channel is great, since the GSXR comparision and other honests reviews! Love to see regular bikes reviews and "old bikes" reviews! Great article from this video! Congrats!
Beautiful videography and great video !!! I saw you guys ran the Dunlop trailmax Raid tire, wanted to ask how these tires are across all the different terrains (Because you guys sure did cover them all) because I am thinking of putting them on? Keep up the great videos !!
Thanks! We cover the tyres more in episode 2, but they were awesome 👌. Fantastic wet grip and really good for an adventure tyre off road! Big upgrade I think! Aaron Knox
What's with the sump need a good skid plate i have the new SUZUKI DE800 and sx250 to nice bike looking forward to your videos on it Cheers from new Zealand 🇳🇿 😊
It's amazing how a reviewer can spend minutes complaining that the Transalp electronics are worthless, then say the bike is "mint." Then the same reviewer stated how heavy the 800DE was and didn't even ride it. In my experience and watching all the reviews the 800DE is easier to pick up than the T7 and as easy to pick up as the Transalp. All the Euro reviewers seam very Transalp biased and don't use ADV bikes as ADV bikes. The 800DE was the clear winner in the sand in this video review. Electronics are better, torque is better, suspension is better, but forget that...the Transalp is "mint." Lol
Also Noticed too many reviews swooning over the honda, when in paper the vstrom is miles ahead. Better suspension, removable subframe, more powerful engine.
When the electronics were turned off it was mint... think that was pretty clear from the video. I had ridden the 800DE... but you don't need to ride it to feel how heavy it is... i tried picking it up, and its so heavy! Fair bit heavier in feeling and in reality in comparison to the transalp. Thanks, Aaron KNOX
Neither are aimed at serious off roaders. That’s where big lightweight singles come in. No such thing as a do it all bike which is just market hyperbole to sell bikes. As adv bikes for 95% road work, I’d take the big Suzy every time. More comfortable, better seat, and for me, a nicer gruntier engine tuned a little like the outgoing 650 making it superbly user friendly. Better suspension too. Suzuki just seem to do oe suspension so well dialled in. Honda is still heavy. Ok 22kg lighter but chuck luggage on it and that advantage disappears. For my money though, the DE 800 road biased version is better spec’d, has a great choice of rubber with the 2 17/19 tubeless wheels, a better screen and I’d have one over a GS. Why? It’d do everything a gs will do at half the price and be reliable, unlike many gs’s…or KTMs to be fair.
@@ReferenceFidelityComponents 790 adventure r is very much a do it all bike, on or off road the bike just laps it up. The cb and de are essentially just road bikes that can handle gravel roads with some light green lanes though
watch enough reviews on these bikes and you see an obvious split. Most American reviews praise the 800de and say it doesnt feel as heavy as it is. Most say the 800de is better offroad and it should be with better suspension. The British fellows love the Honda. If they think the 800 is heavy to pick up Id reckon they havent picked up a T7 or africa twin lol
Beautifully shot, but not a lot of actual information. There's something interesting about abs and traction, but... kind of light on info. I'll look forward to more content rich reviews on the Transalp, and maybe in Pt 2 of this.
Much more to come in episode 2. But I guess we also shot the video in a slightly different style this time to include more story about the adventure as well. Thanks, Aaron KNOX
Knox Covert MK3 - www.planet-knox.com/product/covert-gloves-mkiii/. These are waterproof :) Mossy wore Orsa OR3 gloves - www.planet-knox.com/product/orsa-textile-mk3-gloves-or3-black/.. But these are not waterproof. Thanks, Aaron KNOX.
Such a well-produced video, very impressive. I just bought a Translap here in the US. I'm 6'3" so the height of this bike was perfect. I used to own a Triumph Tiger and absolutely loved it, my Translap brings me back to that same rider experience. Thank you for doing this video for comparison. I don't know which one gets the highest marks among your viewers. I'd be interested to know.
The Suzuki is, no doubt, a phenomenal bike, but it just wasn't the one for me. I'm currently enjoying the snot out of my Transalp, and hope both do well enough to be around for many years. Honestly, both bikes are great additions to the ADV segment, and the Transalp is pretty much what I wish Kawasaki had done for the re-release of the KLR. The only problem I have with it so far is the near useless 1st gear.
@@wilthis near useless. I can ride all day and never put it in first gear. Second is tall enough and the clutch good enough that even in at slow speeds I don’t find much use for first.
All well and good but when will you start lobbying for AAAA and above ratings for motorcycle gear? Or testing your stuff to the 'old' standard which was a lot higher? To many kit manufacturers are enjoying the fact AAA is actually easily acheived so you can have something with quite low levels of protection in the same group as a full race kit or handmade fitted high spec clothing. Some are lobbying hard against any upward lift beyond AAA ratings just because it may hit profit. But we want choice!
Thanks and appreciate your comment. There are many misconceptions about the current EN17092 standard unfortunately and some media have presented it in a bad way. It has also been presented that AAA is low level or easy to achieve, when in reality, it really isn't... We're committed to supporting EN17092 as we have been from the start, this has not changed. The introduction of the standard has significantly improved the offering that customers can buy on the market place and this can only be a good thing. Thanks, Aaron KNOX
Bit strange every other review has found the v strom with a low center of gravity is easily picked up. Perhaps you either have wrong technique or very weak muscles
I test rode both and would personally go for the Transalp. But just for 2 reasons that are very personal: 1) I prefer to sit "in" the bike and not " on" the bike 2) the stock sound of the Honda is so much better and it can be a very annoying process to legally use an aftermarket pipe where I live. You can barely hear the sound the Suzuki engine when riding. However, I prefer the looks and I think the maintaining stuff (air filter, oil glass) of the Suzuki.
I only wish Honda would change 2 things on the Transalp - give it tubeless tyres and change the headlight, which is taken directly from the CB500X, and just looks out of place on the Transalp.
Good day my dear friend. If you look it on another point of view you can see similarities with the older models. I was owner of 1989 Transalp 600 XLV. But anyhow the bike is beautiful. Also Suzuki is piece of art.
The movie looks great! But on 12:34 it simply not true. It's the EASIEST to pickup because of low center of gravity. Look on the Riding&Adventure channel, where a guy pick up transalp, tenere and suzuki in the proper way one by one. And suzuki is the easiest. Maybe just..learn to pickup, but not like on this video on 9:03. ;)
Man! I literally just checked my playback speed because I thought I must have somehow gotten it on half speed. Nope! These people actually talk that slow. Wow! So if you double the playback speed it is tolerable.
Thanks. Although I'm sure its almost exactly the same... Personally, I don't understand why manufacturers insist on a 21" wheel on their adventure bikes, a 19" one will do almost exactly the same off road on the type of terrain you can put an adventure bike on, but it does compromise their on road tyre choice and front end feeling. In the end, it's not like they are enduro bikes! :) Aaron KNOX
De is better because I can take it off road with out crushing exsurst system in with out writing of the subframe/ complete frame as the honda the de better suspension the de delivers power better for the Australian rider that takes bike on all types of train in a single ride
The Suzuki is a great, flawless motorcycle. However, what I really don’t like is that it looks so low and compact at the front, near the tank area. On the 1000cc model, everything is perfect. But on the 800cc model, everything looks distorted. Very ugly-such a shame!
Only thing that gets me with the transalp is the same thing that OLD Vstroms got me... this bike is UGLY! Actually Transalp is not ugly just something just... not well designed as the CB...it seems a big CB500.
Much more to come in episode 2. But I guess we also shot the video in a slightly different style this time to include more story about the adventure as well. Thanks, Aaron KNOX
Gear vid production. Good to see some classic British weather too, so many trips end up like this 🙂 Nice to your kit being put to the test along with the bikes so thanks for info at the end on that too. Look forward to part 2
Thanks guys great efforts on the 2 bikes im most interested in 👍👍
Superb!! Love it Aaron 👏
Cheers John!
Great production as always! Mossy is always hilarious! Cheers!
Liked the video...wise move to camp near a pub in that kind of weather...From previous reviews, most have said that the Honda is better on the road, and that the Suzi is better on the off road/trails. I currently own the Suzi, and find it to be a snappy riding machine on road, with lots of torque and the ability to go whichever direction you want, when you push on the handlebar. Better tires than stock would make it a much better off road machine. Depends on riders taste and use though.
Thanks Richard. If that was the feedback from other reviews, not sure I'd agree to be honest. Wait till episode 2, but personally, I find the Suzuki more confidence inspiring on road with a more connected front tyre feeling. It is also more plush on gravel type roads, but I am sure the Transalp would be more capable in more technical off road terrain and is definitely easier to chuck around. The Dunlop trailmax raid control tyres we fitted were phenomenal, awesome wet road grip and very good grip off road for an adventure tyre. Thanks, Aaron KNOX
Mr Mossy! Great see you here! This channel is great, since the GSXR comparision and other honests reviews!
Love to see regular bikes reviews and "old bikes" reviews! Great article from this video! Congrats!
Thanks a lot, appreciate it! Aaron KNOX
Just subscribed. Enjoyed the riding shots, and really enjoyed the banter. Grandpa is a character. Hope he’s in more vids!
Thanks for the sub!
Beautiful videography and great video !!! I saw you guys ran the Dunlop trailmax Raid tire, wanted to ask how these tires are across all the different terrains (Because you guys sure did cover them all) because I am thinking of putting them on? Keep up the great videos !!
Thanks! We cover the tyres more in episode 2, but they were awesome 👌. Fantastic wet grip and really good for an adventure tyre off road! Big upgrade I think! Aaron Knox
Ok great news can't wait to hear what you guys have to say !!! Keep up the good work !!@@KnoxArmour
You can’t beat a Mossy review 👍
Love this cinematic format! Top notch
Many thanks!
What's with the sump need a good skid plate i have the new SUZUKI DE800 and sx250 to nice bike looking forward to your videos on it
Cheers from new Zealand 🇳🇿 😊
Yes, the sump guard on the Suzuki is just for looks in my opinion.. Sure there will be a good after market one on offer. Thanks, Aaron KNOX
What tires were you running? The same on both?
Yes, we used Dunlop trailmax raid. More to come on that in episode 2. They were the perfect control tyre for this test. Thanks, Aaron KNOX
Good stuff. Hoping for more details on the bikes and comparison in future episode.
Much more to come! Aaron KNOX
Cinematography is a level above all other channels. The banter wasn't bad either 😄
Many thanks, really appreciate your kind feedback! Aaron KNOX
The bike that weighs the less comes out on top for me.
It's amazing how a reviewer can spend minutes complaining that the Transalp electronics are worthless, then say the bike is "mint." Then the same reviewer stated how heavy the 800DE was and didn't even ride it. In my experience and watching all the reviews the 800DE is easier to pick up than the T7 and as easy to pick up as the Transalp. All the Euro reviewers seam very Transalp biased and don't use ADV bikes as ADV bikes. The 800DE was the clear winner in the sand in this video review. Electronics are better, torque is better, suspension is better, but forget that...the Transalp is "mint." Lol
Also Noticed too many reviews swooning over the honda, when in paper the vstrom is miles ahead. Better suspension, removable subframe, more powerful engine.
He said, aside from the traction control it’s mint
When the electronics were turned off it was mint... think that was pretty clear from the video.
I had ridden the 800DE... but you don't need to ride it to feel how heavy it is... i tried picking it up, and its so heavy! Fair bit heavier in feeling and in reality in comparison to the transalp. Thanks, Aaron KNOX
Neither are aimed at serious off roaders. That’s where big lightweight singles come in. No such thing as a do it all bike which is just market hyperbole to sell bikes.
As adv bikes for 95% road work, I’d take the big Suzy every time. More comfortable, better seat, and for me, a nicer gruntier engine tuned a little like the outgoing 650 making it superbly user friendly. Better suspension too. Suzuki just seem to do oe suspension so well dialled in.
Honda is still heavy. Ok 22kg lighter but chuck luggage on it and that advantage disappears. For my money though, the DE 800 road biased version is better spec’d, has a great choice of rubber with the 2
17/19 tubeless wheels, a better screen and I’d have one over a GS. Why? It’d do everything a gs will do at half the price and be reliable, unlike many gs’s…or KTMs to be fair.
@@ReferenceFidelityComponents 790 adventure r is very much a do it all bike, on or off road the bike just laps it up. The cb and de are essentially just road bikes that can handle gravel roads with some light green lanes though
Suzuki the best brand in the world,🔥🔥🔥🔥
Great video guys keep em coming 👍👍🏍🏍🏍
watch enough reviews on these bikes and you see an obvious split. Most American reviews praise the 800de and say it doesnt feel as heavy as it is. Most say the 800de is better offroad and it should be with better suspension. The British fellows love the Honda. If they think the 800 is heavy to pick up Id reckon they havent picked up a T7 or africa twin lol
Pls do a comparison of 1250gs and 1300gs
It's a fair enough excuse for stacking it... I'm sure that I saw Pamela Anderson on that beach once, as well.
Haha... excuses excuses! Aaron KNOX
So you can't cheat the weight? Is the Transalp easier to drive because it is simply lighter?
Off road and low speed it is more noticeable and definitely makes the Transalp easier to flick around. Aaron KNOX
Beautifully shot, but not a lot of actual information. There's something interesting about abs and traction, but... kind of light on info. I'll look forward to more content rich reviews on the Transalp, and maybe in Pt 2 of this.
Much more to come in episode 2. But I guess we also shot the video in a slightly different style this time to include more story about the adventure as well. Thanks, Aaron KNOX
wow the production is superb.
Many thanks, glad you think so! Aaron KNOX
They are both heavy bikes, there is no reason to call them middleweight.
I don't know why but when the weather is like in this video it's my time to go on for a ride.
Nice. Btw, which of your Knox glove range keep you “bone dry”?
Knox Covert MK3 - www.planet-knox.com/product/covert-gloves-mkiii/. These are waterproof :)
Mossy wore Orsa OR3 gloves - www.planet-knox.com/product/orsa-textile-mk3-gloves-or3-black/.. But these are not waterproof. Thanks, Aaron KNOX.
Such a well-produced video, very impressive. I just bought a Translap here in the US. I'm 6'3" so the height of this bike was perfect. I used to own a Triumph Tiger and absolutely loved it, my Translap brings me back to that same rider experience. Thank you for doing this video for comparison. I don't know which one gets the highest marks among your viewers. I'd be interested to know.
The Suzuki is, no doubt, a phenomenal bike, but it just wasn't the one for me. I'm currently enjoying the snot out of my Transalp, and hope both do well enough to be around for many years. Honestly, both bikes are great additions to the ADV segment, and the Transalp is pretty much what I wish Kawasaki had done for the re-release of the KLR. The only problem I have with it so far is the near useless 1st gear.
Why is the 1st gear useless?
@@wilthis near useless. I can ride all day and never put it in first gear. Second is tall enough and the clutch good enough that even in at slow speeds I don’t find much use for first.
Best video mate. Always in love with British summer.
Many thanks! Appreciate it! Aaron KNOX
Love the beautiful yellow/purple colors of the Suzuki. Yes, colors matter !!!
Transalp v Aprilia Tuareg 660 ✌️🍻
All well and good but when will you start lobbying for AAAA and above ratings for motorcycle gear? Or testing your stuff to the 'old' standard which was a lot higher? To many kit manufacturers are enjoying the fact AAA is actually easily acheived so you can have something with quite low levels of protection in the same group as a full race kit or handmade fitted high spec clothing. Some are lobbying hard against any upward lift beyond AAA ratings just because it may hit profit. But we want choice!
Thanks and appreciate your comment. There are many misconceptions about the current EN17092 standard unfortunately and some media have presented it in a bad way. It has also been presented that AAA is low level or easy to achieve, when in reality, it really isn't...
We're committed to supporting EN17092 as we have been from the start, this has not changed. The introduction of the standard has significantly improved the offering that customers can buy on the market place and this can only be a good thing. Thanks, Aaron KNOX
Bit strange every other review has found the v strom with a low center of gravity is easily picked up. Perhaps you either have wrong technique or very weak muscles
Or others are just talking rubbish... 230kg... It's a heavy bike. Aaron Knox
I test rode both and would personally go for the Transalp.
But just for 2 reasons that are very personal:
1) I prefer to sit "in" the bike and not " on" the bike
2) the stock sound of the Honda is so much better and it can be a very annoying process to legally use an aftermarket pipe where I live.
You can barely hear the sound the Suzuki engine when riding.
However, I prefer the looks and I think the maintaining stuff (air filter, oil glass) of the Suzuki.
just too pumped Guys!
WHY cant the Transalp 750 look more like a CB500X... with the 750 engine... would be my dream bike.. so it just look not sporty enaugh..
Look at these shots !!!!!!
Interesting how every single moto vlogger is advertising the transalp at the exact same time lol
Wasn't an advert.. Thanks, Aaron KNOX
AHAHAHAHAH you're mad ... Mossy pure fun ... !! loved the video
Keeping it real- thx.
Transalp for me.if i wanted to do much off road,i would go for the tenere
ace vid!
Many thanks!
Looks like an amazing place to ride
It is!
I only wish Honda would change 2 things on the Transalp - give it tubeless tyres and change the headlight, which is taken directly from the CB500X, and just looks out of place on the Transalp.
Good day my dear friend. If you look it on another point of view you can see similarities with the older models. I was owner of 1989 Transalp 600 XLV. But anyhow the bike is beautiful. Also Suzuki is piece of art.
@@anestischatzirigas4626 Hey, I guess you have a point. Thanks for the reply.
The movie looks great! But on 12:34 it simply not true. It's the EASIEST to pickup because of low center of gravity. Look on the Riding&Adventure channel, where a guy pick up transalp, tenere and suzuki in the proper way one by one. And suzuki is the easiest. Maybe just..learn to pickup, but not like on this video on 9:03. ;)
the vstrom rider is so confident and he has got pretty good skills. Its just not the bike thats good, its the rider that makes the bike good too.
The heart of the transalp is a touring bike.
Honda transalp has been compared to the honda ridgeline "pickup".
very very good
Damn Music😮
15 mins later.. 😂
Man! I literally just checked my playback speed because I thought I must have somehow gotten it on half speed. Nope! These people actually talk that slow. Wow! So if you double the playback speed it is tolerable.
I had two Transalp BUT this no 😂
Please review the Vstrom Touring 19" front wheel version 🙏
Edit : great video btw !
Thanks. Although I'm sure its almost exactly the same... Personally, I don't understand why manufacturers insist on a 21" wheel on their adventure bikes, a 19" one will do almost exactly the same off road on the type of terrain you can put an adventure bike on, but it does compromise their on road tyre choice and front end feeling. In the end, it's not like they are enduro bikes! :) Aaron KNOX
@@KnoxArmour that’s one reason I bought the outgoing VStrom 650xt, 19inch spoked tubeless front wheel
@@davea9946and why not 800 RE?
De is better because I can take it off road with out crushing exsurst system in with out writing of the subframe/ complete frame as the honda the de better suspension the de delivers power better for the Australian rider that takes bike on all types of train in a single ride
Honda will come out with an "offroad" version at some point. It will be expensive.
What a messy, uncoordinated, unstructured review, with no real conclusion and very little useful information. I'll surely not subscribe!
Agree!! We're so bad that they should not even allow us on the TH-cam platform... Aaron KNOX
What brand of English are you all speaking? Talk,talk,talk, not saying anything. Your videography is exceptional though.
You have a funny uncle
The Suzuki is a great, flawless motorcycle. However, what I really don’t like is that it looks so low and compact at the front, near the tank area. On the 1000cc model, everything is perfect. But on the 800cc model, everything looks distorted. Very ugly-such a shame!
hey transalp guy put a bash guard
That Suzuki is so sexy
Only thing that gets me with the transalp is the same thing that OLD Vstroms got me... this bike is UGLY! Actually Transalp is not ugly just something just... not well designed as the CB...it seems a big CB500.
Mossy!
I know for a fact that the Suzuki has the worst headlight ever installed on a production bike.
It's hot garbage.
SAVE YOURSELF TIME, BUY A TENERE
Ha Ha nope. DE all the way
Why do all reviewers wast time using any honda up for comparison as they all are biased against honda and chose a tricycle over honda.
Pretty uninformative so far. Let’s hope the second session turns up a better comparison.
They did good under the circumstances, unless you made a better comparison video of course.
It’s got Mossy in it so if must be good
Much more to come in episode 2. But I guess we also shot the video in a slightly different style this time to include more story about the adventure as well. Thanks, Aaron KNOX