It's true, a lot of people say the old testament saint went to the place called hades/ Sheol. God cannot leave them out of heaven. But everyone needs glorious body and eternity
Not old testament saints but martyred saints are described in revelation as resting under the alter until the time of judgement and redemption but also seem to be conscious
The state of the dead, according to the word of God. But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof *thou shalt surely die* {Genesis 2:17} Man dieth, and wasteth away: yea, man giveth up the ghost, and where is he? ... So man lieth down, and riseth not: till the heavens be no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their *sleep* O that thou wouldest hide me in the grave, that thou wouldest keep me secret, *until thy wrath be past* that thou wouldest appoint me a set time, and remember me! If a man die, shall he live again? all the days of my appointed time will I wait, 👉till my change come. ... His sons come to honour, and he knoweth it not; and they are brought low, but he perceiveth it not of them. {Job 14:10, 12-14 & 21} And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in *my flesh* shall I see God. {Job 19:26} Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, *nor knowledge nor wisdom* in the grave, whither thou goest. {The Preacher 9:10} Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help. His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; *in that very day his thoughts perish* {Psalm 146:3-4} Then said his disciples, Lord, if he *sleep* he shall do well. Howbeit Jesus spake of his death: but they thought that he had spoken of taking of rest in sleep. Then said Jesus unto them plainly, "Lazarus is dead." {John 11:12-14} ... Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection 👉at the last day. Jesus said unto her, "I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet *shall* he live:" {John 11:24-25} But go thou thy way till the end be: for *thou shalt rest* and stand in thy lot *at the end of the days* {Daniel 12:13} For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him *should not perish* but have everlasting life. {John 3:16} And *the serpent said* unto the woman, *Ye shall not surely die* {Genesis 3:4} Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down *in the midst of the stones of fire* {Ezekiel 28:14} ^ (satan always turns the tables on God, for he is the father of lies.) The sinners in Zion are afraid; fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites. *Who* among us shall dwell with the devouring fire? who among us shall dwell with everlasting burnings? *He that walketh righteously and speaketh uprightly he that despiseth the gain of oppressions that shaketh his hands from holding of bribes that stoppeth his ears from hearing of blood and shutteth his eyes from seeing evil* {Isaiah 33:14-15} If anyone errors in their understanding of this doctrine of the dead, then they will in no way be led to the understanding of the truth, for it will be a stumblingblock unto the decernment of spiritual things, including soilterology and eschatology.
No. Jesus saith unto her, "Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.” {John 20:17} ^ This was on the third day.
Jesus tells us in gospel Luke chapter 13, you will see abraham, isaac, Jacob, and all the prophets in kingdom of God. The ethnos will be their, their kings and queens, equivalent of God's Elect. God's Election will be their. The majority have spirit of stupor, they will have to wait until millennium is over to enter paradise, revelation chapter 20 and Matthew chapter 13. Jesus laid it out in Luke chapter 13. How's this possible? Because the election and ethnos are Predestimate, chosen before foundation of the world.
For Christ is the end [objective] of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth. {Romans 10:4} That the righteousness of the law *might be fulfilled in us* who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but *they that are after the Spirit* the things of the Spirit. For to be carnally minded is death; but *to be spiritually minded is life and peace* Because *the carnal mind is enmity against God* for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. {Romans 8:4-7} I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then *with the mind I myself serve the law of God* but with the flesh the law of sin. {Romans 7:25} Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or *of obedience* unto righteousness? {Romans 6:16}
The gospel is the gospel of the kingdom! Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah died for his people! God resurrected the Messiah! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21 Matt 24 14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come. Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
@@marjsayson6747 Angels are not humans, so they are in heaven. Jesus did not die for angels. Hebrews 1:13 But to which of *the angels* said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool? 14 *Are they not all ministering spirits,* sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?
@@JudeOne3Four wow, that's nice.. Can we have an in depth bible study about this? I have zoom acc, fb and twt, what is convenient for u?😊🌼 I am willing to learn, and not to disagree..
@@marjsayson6747 i agree with @judeone3 i personally believe only Jesus and the angels are in heaven, everyone else who died is asleep and waiting judgement, read john 3:13 it says noone has gone to heaven except he that came from heaven (Jesus)
Agreed. This video is a train wreck. Jesus said "no man has ascended to heaven" (John 3:13, except for Himself) and Peter confirmed this, saying David, for example was still dead and buried (Acts 2:29-34). They are still in their graves, waiting for their promised resurrection at Jesus' return.
@@majestyiv2086 Are you saying Jesus was wrong? Jesus said: ■ "And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven." (Jesus, in John 3:13) So was Elijah taken up to heaven? No, or else Jesus was wrong. Explanantion? "Heaven" can refer to anyplace above the ground . . . the sky, the clouds, in the air, or where we like to think God lives, depending on the context. For example, in Revelation we read about "the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven" -vultures in the sky: ■ “And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God; That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.” (Revelation 19:17,18) Elijah was taken through the air to another place on earth. Years later he wrote a letter to the next king warning that king about his evil ways: ■ "And there came a writing to him from Elijah the prophet, saying, Thus saith the LORD God of David thy father, Because thou hast not walked in the ways of Jehoshaphat thy father, nor in the ways of Asa king of Judah, But hast walked in the way of the kings of Israel, and hast made Judah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem to go a whoring, like to the whoredoms of the house of Ahab, and also hast slain thy brethren of thy father's house, which were better than thyself: Behold, with a great plague will the LORD smite thy people, and thy children, and thy wives, and all thy goods" (2 Chronicles 21:12-14). God "took" Enoch: "And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him" (Genesis 5:24). It does not say God took him to heaven. Given that "no man has ascended up to heaven" we are left to conclude God took him somewhere else on earth. Even in the New Testament we have an example of this: Philip was "caught away" to Azotus just after baptizing the eunuch: ■ "And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing. But Philip was found at Azotus: and passing through he preached in all the cities, till he came to Caesarea" (Acts 8:39,40).
All have died and none have ascended into heaven
When Christ died some saints came out of their grave those that died believing ....several of them were seen in the city.
But they lived and died again because Jesus had not yet ascended.
the bible never said old testament saint went to heaven when they die they will be first to rise when jesus returns
■ "And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven." (Jesus, in John 3:13)
It's true, a lot of people say the old testament saint went to the place called hades/ Sheol. God cannot leave them out of heaven. But everyone needs glorious body and eternity
Not old testament saints but martyred saints are described in revelation as resting under the alter until the time of judgement and redemption but also seem to be conscious
The state of the dead, according to the word of God.
But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof *thou shalt surely die*
{Genesis 2:17}
Man dieth, and wasteth away: yea, man giveth up the ghost, and where is he?
...
So man lieth down, and riseth not: till the heavens be no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their *sleep*
O that thou wouldest hide me in the grave, that thou wouldest keep me secret, *until thy wrath be past* that thou wouldest appoint me a set time, and remember me!
If a man die, shall he live again? all the days of my appointed time will I wait,
👉till my change come.
...
His sons come to honour, and he knoweth it not; and they are brought low, but he perceiveth it not of them.
{Job 14:10, 12-14 & 21}
And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in *my flesh* shall I see God.
{Job 19:26}
Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, *nor knowledge nor wisdom* in the grave, whither thou goest.
{The Preacher 9:10}
Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help.
His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; *in that very day his thoughts perish*
{Psalm 146:3-4}
Then said his disciples, Lord, if he *sleep* he shall do well.
Howbeit Jesus spake of his death: but they thought that he had spoken of taking of rest in sleep.
Then said Jesus unto them plainly, "Lazarus is dead."
{John 11:12-14}
...
Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection
👉at the last day.
Jesus said unto her, "I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet *shall* he live:"
{John 11:24-25}
But go thou thy way till the end be: for *thou shalt rest* and stand in thy lot *at the end of the days*
{Daniel 12:13}
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him *should not perish* but have everlasting life.
{John 3:16}
And *the serpent said* unto the woman, *Ye shall not surely die*
{Genesis 3:4}
Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down *in the midst of the stones of fire*
{Ezekiel 28:14}
^
(satan always turns the tables on God, for he is the father of lies.)
The sinners in Zion are afraid; fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites. *Who* among us shall dwell with the devouring fire? who among us shall dwell with everlasting burnings?
*He that walketh righteously and speaketh uprightly he that despiseth the gain of oppressions that shaketh his hands from holding of bribes that stoppeth his ears from hearing of blood and shutteth his eyes from seeing evil*
{Isaiah 33:14-15}
If anyone errors in their understanding of this doctrine of the dead, then they will in no way be led to the understanding of the truth, for it will be a stumblingblock unto the decernment of spiritual things, including soilterology and eschatology.
David only talks about his body in psalm 16 not his spirit, when he says you'll not leave me in hades
Did Jesus went to paradise that day when he spoke with the man
yeah but his psychical body resurrected on the third day
@@christopherdavis4810 show mi that in the bible
No.
Jesus saith unto her, "Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.”
{John 20:17}
^
This was on the third day.
i like this pastor
Jesus tells us in gospel Luke chapter 13, you will see abraham, isaac, Jacob, and all the prophets in kingdom of God. The ethnos will be their, their kings and queens, equivalent of God's Elect. God's Election will be their. The majority have spirit of stupor, they will have to wait until millennium is over to enter paradise, revelation chapter 20 and Matthew chapter 13. Jesus laid it out in Luke chapter 13. How's this possible? Because the election and ethnos are Predestimate, chosen before foundation of the world.
Luke 16:19-31?
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For Christ is the end [objective] of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
{Romans 10:4}
That the righteousness of the law *might be fulfilled in us* who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but *they that are after the Spirit* the things of the Spirit.
For to be carnally minded is death; but *to be spiritually minded is life and peace*
Because *the carnal mind is enmity against God* for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
{Romans 8:4-7}
I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then *with the mind I myself serve the law of God* but with the flesh the law of sin.
{Romans 7:25}
Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or *of obedience* unto righteousness?
{Romans 6:16}
Amen My Friend@@larrybedouin2921
NOVEMBER 26, 2023
The gospel is the gospel of the kingdom!
Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah died for his people! God resurrected the Messiah! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21
Matt 24
14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.
Jesus said the Father is the only true God!
John 17
3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
Jesus didn't ascend into hell he was risen with the father in heaven he prepared a place for are profets and saints that's what i believe
They went to limbo and when Jesus resurrected they were taken to heaven
Where does the bible say this?
They went to hades then christ saved them on the cross and opened gates of heaven
Nobody is in heaven or burning yet. Jesus Christ is the only one in heaven with a new spiritual body
What about the angels sir
@@marjsayson6747 Angels are not humans, so they are in heaven. Jesus did not die for angels. Hebrews 1:13 But to which of *the angels* said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool? 14 *Are they not all ministering spirits,* sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?
@@JudeOne3Four wow, that's nice.. Can we have an in depth bible study about this? I have zoom acc, fb and twt, what is convenient for u?😊🌼 I am willing to learn, and not to disagree..
@@marjsayson6747 Sorry but i'm not a teacher. I just study the Word daily, that's all (Acts 17:11)
@@marjsayson6747 i agree with @judeone3 i personally believe only Jesus and the angels are in heaven, everyone else who died is asleep and waiting judgement, read john 3:13 it says noone has gone to heaven except he that came from heaven (Jesus)
There is SO much wrong with this...
Agreed. This video is a train wreck. Jesus said "no man has ascended to heaven" (John 3:13, except for Himself) and Peter confirmed this, saying David, for example was still dead and buried (Acts 2:29-34). They are still in their graves, waiting for their promised resurrection at Jesus' return.
Elijah and Elisha were taken up to heaven though@@TheBibleSays
@@majestyiv2086 Are you saying Jesus was wrong? Jesus said:
■ "And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven." (Jesus, in John 3:13)
So was Elijah taken up to heaven? No, or else Jesus was wrong. Explanantion? "Heaven" can refer to anyplace above the ground . . . the sky, the clouds, in the air, or where we like to think God lives, depending on the context. For example, in Revelation we read about "the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven" -vultures in the sky:
■ “And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;
That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.” (Revelation 19:17,18)
Elijah was taken through the air to another place on earth. Years later he wrote a letter to the next king warning that king about his evil ways:
■ "And there came a writing to him from Elijah the prophet, saying, Thus saith the LORD God of David thy father, Because thou hast not walked in the ways of Jehoshaphat thy father, nor in the ways of Asa king of Judah,
But hast walked in the way of the kings of Israel, and hast made Judah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem to go a whoring, like to the whoredoms of the house of Ahab, and also hast slain thy brethren of thy father's house, which were better than thyself:
Behold, with a great plague will the LORD smite thy people, and thy children, and thy wives, and all thy goods" (2 Chronicles 21:12-14).
God "took" Enoch:
"And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him" (Genesis 5:24).
It does not say God took him to heaven. Given that "no man has ascended up to heaven" we are left to conclude God took him somewhere else on earth. Even in the New Testament we have an example of this: Philip was "caught away" to Azotus just after baptizing the eunuch:
■ "And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.
But Philip was found at Azotus: and passing through he preached in all the cities, till he came to Caesarea" (Acts 8:39,40).