I tried to watch S01, but I couldn’t. They’re not making it for the fans. It’s for people like my parents. They like it, but they also know nothing about Halo.
The show just feels like a bad Halo fanfic, needless romance, random subplots, bad writing, and worse versions of memorable moments. It does make me want to go back and replay the games, so its working as cross promotion.
@@patchworkcat6932honestly they made Master Chief too human, he's supposed to slowly rediscover his humanity and barely having any as the games progress, this series is prequel. Is it's a bad AU setting
This is Outrageous, this unfair, how can you have a season 2 if you're terrible. (The worst line in a worse Star Wars movie if you disagree look at Clone Wars 03 which takes place like 1 hour from the third movie but with worse action, visuals, and dialogue. Even some of the visuals and dialogue are the exact same)
The assault rifle has a flashlight built in, there's one attached to the shotgun, and even modern helmets have optional flashlights, it's aggravating how a show about military in space just goes out of it's way to avoid being tactical.
The guy that plays Akerson has actually played the original trilogy (halo 3 being his favorite) and played Halo Reach to get his head into the universe to prepare for his role. Love this guy!
seems like a low bar to play one of the most popular franchises of all time, especially considering how concise the campaigns are, but better than nothing
It’s especially funny considering that flares were used in Halo 3 on the Ark. You know the point in time when humanity was using every last resource they had
Season 3 will open with the Arbiter getting out of bed, kiss his girlfriends (a Lek'golo) goodbye, and force jump into a flying car while yelling "its Arbiting time"
i will say with the fog scene i love that master chief can smell the elites i think its been said in the books that their shields and plasma weaponry give off a distinct smell ionized ozone or something like that
@@thehermitman822 tactically they should be able to otherwise it would be like giving a marine earplugs yeah they would be safe from loud noises / toxic environments at the cost of survivability
from a quick google fred said in one of the books or comics that the squad of marines he was currently with stunk but that his suit filters out most of it
I mean... they kind of are? The insurrection exists for very legitimate reasons. The UNSC is not a very good organization. They will do pretty much anything to keep colonies under their thumb and were letting ONI commit atrocities well before the Covenant were known about. Remember the Spartan II's were made to fight other rebelling humans. Children were kidnapped by the hundreds and trained as child super soldiers, all sanctioned by the UNSC.
@@jaredelliott5778considering one of the creators explicitly said they dont care (i think they even went so far as to say they hated it but dont quote me on it) for the source material at all i guarantee they dont know it
What franchise am I describing mass effect or halo: protagonist lands on colony planet where humans have dug up artefact, humans attacked by aliens, aliens be killed and protagonist touch artefact that gives visions, protagonist is stopped from leaving base and has to go rogue to stop humanity killing event, protagonist also has space sex. It’s incredibly eye opening when you see that this shows script was initially supposed to be a mass effect show.
@@minimum7681 it’s the weird thing where studios don’t want to make the property but want the built in fan base to boost their ratings of a story they want to make. Then get confused when the fan base is angry that the show does nothing with the existing lore but makes the original show they wanted to make instead with cosmetics of the established series
@thesomethingthatisntathing514 I also came when the armory guy told chief " Who else is gonna clap your cheeks to..." and Chief responds " Tell that to the Covenant"
Meanwhile there's Arcane, Castlevania, The Last of Us, Edgerunners and the Sonic movies. Halo and Witcher fans can shake hands, both were dealt a bad hand.
I have an idea. Do a Forward Unto Dawn Style movie of just a group of UNSC marines. Band of Brothers style, tie in how it truly feels to be an average human seeing a spartan leap into battle and take a whole enemy objective by themselves, the awe inspiring nature of it.
@@jasoncooper6047: The show's props and costume department got the UNSC gear, weapons, and vehicles right, they are genuine fans. Can't say the same for the writers. All that hard work pissed away by shite writing.
@waketp420There was only Henry and maybe one other writer who were adamant about staying true to the source material but they fired both of them/ they resigned cause the other writers wanted to make up their own bs
It's crazy because they know what people want to see because those are the parts they put in the ads. When shows do stuff like that, it feels like their intentionally scamming you.
No its just that the people they hire to create cinematics and trailers are not a part of anything. They're usual a small company or private interest who is hired for it and this small group of 5 or however big their company is are usually very good at their job unlike the show runners. The trailers film editors are 100 percent fans of halo and are only allowed to used like 10 seconds max per clips and have to show atleast 25 percent of what the show is about. Thats why disney movies suck. They're trailer creators work for Disney and you can tell by how they keep spoiling the entire movie and then showing us all how trash it is thinking they just made the best thing ever. Same with dceu
@@OGslays TV shows don't hire outside people to do their ads. Most big TV shows nowadays have a television film crew who's part of the production team for the entire show. Them and the producers will usually pick what parts to play in their ads.
@DeagleGamesTV God your insufferable naive with no understanding of basic concepts. Next time don't make shit up because your too pathetic to ever be apart of it
Or the Halo 3 ODST trailer which I would say is slightly better than the reach one. The way it shows the guy go from his brother's funeral where he flinches at the 21 gun salute then at the end does the time skip and he's a hard as nails warrior with a big scar, the explosions go off in the distance and he doesn't even blink, just puts on his helmet and looks at his men like "time to work". God it's good.
It feels like someone, who actually knew what they were doing, snuck onto the writing team, tried to write some halfway decent lines, but was caught, and despite their efforts, there was still some good stuff left from what he snuck in. The rest is all classic season 1 stuff though.
Its also like they said "okay they do want some halo stuff in the halo series so we'll give It to them... But we'll still put our personal touh!" But touch is completely wrong for the setting
No. The Halo TV Show will never be Halo regardless how good or bad it is. The fact Chief's face looks like a Hollywood actor just ruins the lore. They will need to make the show again or just make another Halo Landfall.
Its almost like there are some "special" types who don't grasp that they make these things for a GENERAL AUDIENCE not really for neckbeards who already know Halo. Why does Chief take off his helmet protip: because GENERAL AUDENCES don't want to watch something with a guy wearing a helmet 100% of the time. They don't care about the hardcore they care about the GENERAL AUDIENCE and getting them interested and it clearly worked
The reason why Halo TV has this infatuation with Spartan emotions is all because of Kiki Wolfkill. She was the executive producer of 343 Industries during Halo 4 and has continued producing Halo media. With the god awful Halo Nightfall, Halo 5 and the current Paramount Halo TV series. She is the one that infamously said Master Chief is not a machine but is a human with emotions back in 2011. She has continued to steer the Halo franchise in that direction when she is in the executive role. If you ever wonder why Halo has changed drastically from Bungie into Halo 4. Maybe look at the people at top who made the decisions, it’s consistently the same people 🤷🏻♂️. Wonder why Halo Infinite felt like Halo again? Joseph Staten the original Halo writer was in the executive position….
Exactly. And he tried coming back for Infinite and didn’t even make it at 343 for a year. Tells you a lot about the state of the franchise and the company when one of the pivotal members that played a huge role in the OG games dips out
Halo infinite did not feel like Halo again. The story was especially empty but the gameplay also was pretty sparse and boring overall imo. Joseph came in extremely late in production when the campaign world was already built and the story was already done, very little was up for change in the last year. He was there as project management during crunch time after a year extension was given to finish up the game because a lot was in a rough shape and broken. That's a role of organization and making sure people are all working on the things that need to have focus put on so the game makes the deadline not too broken, not writing or influence on game design. Apparently he was not liked by many employees at 343, so the actual issue is a lot of the studio culture and staff, not just upper management. Joes role in Microsoft for the past nearly decade I believe has been going through many studios near the end of a game to help with wrapping up the project for release. He hops from place to place and doesn't stay long after release.
@@Everarmed89I mean that's his job at Microsoft, he hops from studio to studio to help with the last bit of development and doesn't stay long after. Microsoft brought him to 343 to do the same thing. It wasn't him who chose to go. Now I will say 343 has major culture problems and many of the employees don't seem to actually like the job or community. It really should be closed and Halo should rest for a good while, maybe it can come back in 20 years and I would wish not by Microsoft. They have too much bias towards Halo being a cash cow but have no passion or drive to make quality, just money.
Ya know...I didn't mind halo 4. But five was absolutely terrible and then infinite was....okay at its core but 343 mismanagement by Microsoft and executives hurt it badly. I hope we see a proper revival someday.
You are just wrong about that. Kiki Wolfkill is some nobody executive. The writing with the chief in Halo games and books is decent. This show is just terrible. It does everything wrong. Its completely ruining the theme from the real halo of chief and the spartans struggling with their "humanity and purpose." Its just poor writing written by morons.
My favorite part is the show runners setting up like 10 separate plots within the first 2 episode.. You've got Halsey, Sorin, Sorin's wife and kid, Qwan, Silver team, Mackee, Ackerson, Cortana and then the pirates and slaves on rubble I'm sure I'm missing 1 or 2 too.
You can tell some attempt at a course-correct was made. They just didn't go hard enough. How many times do we have to cite the Sonic movie as an example of how to please the fans?
Honestly with the fall of reach coming up, got me thinking it'd be way cooler to get a mini series about a squad of marines defending Reach, than "Mastercheeks defeats the covenant 2 cheeks at a time," that way you wouldn't have to worry about making your characters seem human, because they literally are.
Nope, instead you get armorless Spartans fighting in one corridor of Reach City for about 30 minutes. Then Chief gets spared by his lover in a display of writing that would make a CoD campaign blush.
They could’ve made this sooooo good, if they stuck to the source material and used the whole ONI and Chief arc and kept it serious and mysterious it would be best shit ever
Yeah but then people would like it. Todays movies must have either a woke leftist message or they must be pissing on source material. This is even more important then making money.
Agree, this could be easily one of the best serials out there, instead of it, i have a problem watching it. Especialy whole arc Chief is mental and his team doubts him is boiling my blood. Thats the exact opposite of Master Chief and his team, they were loyal to him always, they never doubted him coss he was like a machine, he was always few steps ahead, he was best of best and everyone knew it.
Yes, but that would have required competent people with humility across the board. They would need a lead actor who's not so in love with himself he can't help buy pull his damn helmet off every 5 second to show off his "gorgeous face". You would need writers that had the humility of adapting someone else's superior writing, rather than thinking they can do better without an iota of evidence to back that up. They would need SFX teams who understood basic concepts like conservation of momentum, so their Spartan suits would look realistic, and not like they weigh nothing... So basically, in the woke, egomaniacal, modern hollyweird, this show didn't stand a chance.
That's impossible because they have massive egos and they would be forced to admit that the lore of one of the biggest franchises in all videogame history is actually good. You see, hollywood hates videogames.
This is a direct result of the source being from a game unfortunately. There isn’t a legitimate director the networks will hire that actually has played the games from the beginning and to them it isn’t a concern at all.
The lack of shooting in a show about an fps game is concerning excluding the obvious reasons the show sucks. Its like if the walking dead didnt have zombies until season 2 everyone would be waiting on the zombies and bored shitless
343 has been trying to ask "But who is John?" since Halo 4 and it's never gone anywhere at all. John is a badass, that's all you need to know about The Chief
John is supposed to be the player; that’s why he had very little dialogue and characterization in the Bungie games. Trying to develop his character like 343 tried to do isn’t a bad idea by default, but it was done so badly here that it ruined everything.
@@orangesoda51414 If you think drama equates to a better narrative, sure. Its best dialogue is comparable to the worst lines from Halo 3. So much cheese. Halo 4 had the best narrative!!! (forgets there’s a cutscene where there’s like 10 minutes of nothing but exposition dumping with the librarian). Finally, if you have to retcon the whole franchise by adding terminals to make it make sense: you have written a BAD story. Go play Halo 2 if you want the best narrative.
I agree with you, but that’s not entirely true though. Master Chief has been characterized since the beginning with the books, and I feel like the early books just the right amount of characterization to give you background, but it was never about exploring him as a character as much as it was about enriching the world it took place in. You could argue about whether that’s good writing, but I believe that it was perfectly serviceable and enjoyable.
@@orangesoda51414 In the 'who is the machine here?' aspect I agree, but the Covenant and Didact parts of the plot just feel like a big mess imo. I also find the mad disrespect of MC by Del Rio was both confusing and goofy. Playing through all the Bungie Halos and playing 4 immediately after felt almost like fanfic or Chief got sent to an alternate reality
Riz said, "Suck big ass, Karim." referring to Karim-002 aka the Spartan who thinks he's good looking. Anyway, I also thought she said "big ass cream" which is why I had to double take with the subtitles on. Still though, I have never heard that as an insult and just have to assume that the Spartans have not learned any new insults since they were six years old due to the emotion-suppressing-pellet-thingamajig.
And on top of that, Karim sarcastically goes “niccee” which single handedly saves the conversation from cringe dialogue, as if it was intentional. Proof of this, he quickly retorts “You still getting your material from Vanik?”
This is an understatement to be sure, but the vibe I get is that the showrunners don't take the source material seriously. The "what's your KDR?" scene just sounded like the writers going "Geddit? Because it's a video game! In a video game adaptation! It's silly game! Games silly! Geddit?" Like why would you just ask some random person you just met what their KDR is? Imagine meeting a stranger and just going "Hello! What's your KDR? Don't tell me you never played Counter Strike!" They'd look at you like you should be in a straitjacket. It felt like one of those "mEtA" scenes that's in fucking everything now where writers do the wink-wink at the camera, as if they're sniggering while typing it out going "oh god this is just so cringe, why did I agree to this, I am a SERIOUS writer".
Not defending it or anything but they’ve stated numerous times this takes place in a different universe than the games/books do. They kinda made it known they weren’t going to use the source material early
Wait what? Someone asks what someone’s KDR is? Wtf. You can only die once, so there’s no ratio it’s just how many you’ve killed… and even that, that’s a question that can’t be asked lightly unless it’s coming from someone we’re supposed to hate immediately.
@@lolilol5346 yeah I know its incredibly confusing for bots like you to understand how somebody who's a fan of the games would actually want what they plyed for their adapted tv series...
See they have two options A) make a shot by shot remake of the books which I would have preferred or B) do a slightly different but not super changed yet it’s a new story but with similar story beats But no they made something very different
It really doesn't change much from the first season, there are things that can no longer be forgotten, for example that Jimmy Rings will take off his helmet, Kwan, makee, the pill, that Jimmy Rings having tried to kill Halsey twice, orgasms from touching objects forerruner, etc, overall it sucks a little less.
@@forgeinsurancellc An augmented human also wearing power armor would likely have an insane stride length, they did it better in season 1 but that still falls short of what the reality would be.
"Waiting for it to feel like Halo" is 1000% accurate. My best hope is that this just opens up the door for other spin-offs or even a movie like how the Force Awakens opened the door for Rogue One and The Mandolorian. I can only hope...
It will never feel like Halo, because that would require humility to adapt the source material faithfully. Modern day hollyweird is so full of narcissists that it's absolutely impossible for them to fathom someone in the past could have possibly done a better job than they are doing today...
Pretty much this. The first 3 episodes, much like the first season, has its moments when it feels like Halo. Then it does a bait and switch and gives us the Kwan show on Rubble. The pacing is way too uneven and spends way too much time on subplots that has nothing to do with Halo and will never tie in with the main story. Theres nothing of value with these other subplots at all. Horrible writing.
@@Tiberious_Of_Elona Its closer to the Halo that we have wanted from day 1. But its getting high marks because it doesn't include the bullshit that nobody is asking for. Thats a pretty low bar IMO. But keep in mind, the Master Chief also doesn't wear his signature armor in the entire episode. So its still not the Halo we deserve.
This is called the bait and switch, just like the mandalorian is not about the mandalorian anymore, but about girl bosses. This same theme happens when shit writers take over.
I really enjoyed the Halo Believe ad campaign. I really think a band of brothers type of show couldve been cool with just some random rag tag team of UNSC Soliders or ODST and it couldve been soldiers reminiscing about the past and telling an interviewer what happened and then the episode begins
I felt an overwhelming sense of dread when you said that they could be building up to the fall of reach. I sure as hell can’t wait for them to try and “interpret” my favorite story in media.
They removed their swords because Makee told them to. The camera literally panned to the side to show Chief's pov and you could see the silhouette of Makee in the fog. It is later referenced in dialogue as well.
1st season should have been SGt Johnson on contact harvest. With the B plot each episode used to build up the Spartans, showing the perspective of the Insurrectionists and shit. Then at the finale for season one, John Chief himself shows up and the audience understands his power. Then we cut with harvest being invaded.
@@1Loftwing1 If anything a casual audience would have an easier time understanding and following 'regular human' Johnson in an alien invasion story then the Spartans.
@@1Loftwing1I feel like that's the real problem with this show, everyone has so many expectations that are unrealistic without costing way too much money. There are things you can get away with in a video game that you can't in a live action television series without spending Avengers level cash, which not all studios have access to.
It’s sad because all they had to do was follow the books and add cool fluff. Make Master Chief more of a mystery, and make Sgt. Johnson the main character with Chips Dubbo. General audiences can very easily grasp a straightforward sci-fi war story. The budget could be an issue but mainly because they wouldn’t be able to launder so much money from it.
I was so happy when they had the mission debrief in episode one and glossed over the fact that Madrigal got glassed. I was like YES the writers finally understood Kwan's plot was dumb, glassed her and her planet to oblivion and focus on the main plot. Then the god damn final scene came on ... SOB!
I watched it on an airplane and i was annoyed that she wanted to to back home and then going back home was a bad idea and she ended up failing in every way. Like it was all useless
Theres actually a small detail about Chief and his struggle with emotions in Halo 4 i hope returns. If you notice, any time chief gets uncomfortable or the topic turns to emotions, he either fiddles with his gun, His equipment, or something he was trained in. He constantly tries to push his emotions aside to focus on the things he knows. War, weapons, tactics, because the unknown kinda does scare him. Chief feels fear, I bet a lot of it. If he didnt, he wouldnt be the bravest person like he is. He faces his fear in spite of it being so overwhelming. Thats bravery.
So i actually do a bit of VFX myself (not at a big level) but one thing i do know is that if something isnt looking quite right in motion, the trick is to mask it with motion blur, and the fog is a tool to make the elites look more realistic and menacing. Sometimes thats the plan from the start, and sometimes its just because they dont have enough time to make it better
This is exactly what was going on in my head as well. I don't do VFX but I watch a lot of corridor crew on youtube and they explain a lot of what goes into VFX and this sounds like tricks of the trade that they explain a lot. The VFX team was probably strapped for time and they had to rely on the motion blur and post processing effects to hide imperfections.
@@playboyj0hnny270 Im Sure there is plenty of passion put into it. The main problem is the writing and overall focus. Too many characters and side plots.. The same level of effects with a tight focus on masterchief and silverr team being badass war heroes would've been great.
Aren't Spartan 2s identities supposed to be classified for civilians? I may be wrong but it's just weird he's having dinner with a marine's family and they know who he is.
Yes that is yet another reason why he never takes off his helmet infront of any civilians and never shows his face in the games. During the time that the series is intended to take place in no one outside of select units of the USNC, even knew spartans existed.
i dont get how he doesnt understand that kwan, the red head guy, and the guy ridden by the auctioneer were all slaves and thats why they have the trackers on their ears. its not that hard to understand
the fact that you called him Johnny Rings instead of Jimmy Rings is very troubling to me. I must now remove my helmet, complain to my superiors, and go to an AI strip club for therapy
Does Hollywood ever do anything exactly how you see it in a game or book no if halo is screwed up then you can rest assured that anything else they bring to the screen is going to be jacked up so just enjoying what you can and move on.
I just said that too, anything outside of silver team, ONI and Halsey can be cut from the show. Kwan is boring, The Pirate Nonsense is irrelevant to the story.
The halo show had sooo much potential. Theres so many ways it could go. They couldve had the first 2 episodes be the a shortened plot of Contact Harvest. Show johnson fighting Innies to establish the setting before the covenant, then take steps towards the "diplomatic" meeting with the covenant that failed spectatcularly. Show a condensed version of The Cole Protocol to show just how dedicated the spartans are to their mission and just how effective they are even in a small group. There's just so many ways they could've done this show, but they decided to go with a Johnny Sims look-a-like that would rather literally show his ass and cry than be more accurate to the charater we grew to love and admire.
14:37 i actually think this might be a reference to either Spartan assault or Spartan strike which are two top down shooter games within the halo series
Honestly one of the coolest things to me always about halo is kinda how Spartans kinda consider their armor their faces especially Spartan 2s, 3s less so but still alittle bit, because they went through so much crap to earn that armor which is essentially their identity, which is why I don’t like 4s because they are basically just dudes in power suits who don’t care and take their helmets off all the damn time. I love the idea of telling a story without the protagonist having a face.
I just dont get why its such a big deal and ive been a halo fan since halo ce. I just dont get people's nitpicky obsession for chief to not be human when he is and even Bungie did a face reveal and he was an old white dude.
until they didnt..I wish they would make it just a mandalorian thing but unfortunately bo katan is now in charge and she leads the boring mandalorians that have no culture behind them or definable characteristics what so ever and just are humans in armor.@@Shinigami8143
I think most of us could have done a better job writing the story by sticking to the scource material. Since story-writing for movies and shows is always a team effort, we could work with some experienced people, who could tell us where some cutting and reworking is neccessary to make it compatible with the runtime of a movie or a show episode. The Fall of Reach book alone in tv show form would be a dream come true.
But If we do that - at which Point to we piss on the source material? This is critical for game Adaptations. Thats what we learn in narcistic Art University.
God, we could've gotten an awesome show if they just followed the games. God damn. Imagine a cool casting for Keyes and Johnson. Good fights with the Covenent. Gruesome Body Horror With the Flood.
I love that this universe has chiefs armour, one of the most technologically baffling things, but the standard marine not using flashlights is beautiful. Also that shot of the covenant was executed cool, but nothing can beat the star wars trailer were all the Sith in the back of the ship from the old republic trailer like my god.
We see the covenant for 4 gd minutes at the end wtf the subplots are hot fucking garbage-written by an embecile who believes they are a creative genius
Apparently they dont have cameras in chiefs nor the marine helmet though.. The main conflict of the human storyline is that noone believes Chief which makes absolutely no sense. The very first introduction of the Flood in Halo 1 is done through a helmet recording
@@MaMastoastHad this same thought, once again an example of, “they wrote a generic story and put a halo skin on top of it” with complete disregard for the source material.
I actually really liked that scene and chuckled with my brother, although it's probably because me and him could relate to the scene since the scene showed Hispanics and me and my brother are Puerto Rican and I understand that a bit of the dialogue was cheesy so I could see why act man didn't like it. But yeah I also immediately thought of that when they said it.
@@Neko16gram The problem is that no gamer talks like that. You dont go "Hey whats your kill death ratio".... "What you dont play counter strike?".. There must be thousands of different games, why on earth would you start with that KDR question? Its just bad writing. Imagine someone randomly asking you "Hey, What's your favourite weapon?"... "What? You don't play Baldurs gate 3?".. nonsense
As good as it was to see a fully suited John-117 fighting elites up on that plateau or mountain or whatever it was ... it was executed poorly. The armour's motion trackers would have pin pointed the locations of every single one of those elites even through fog so he should have been able to react to each one faster than he did. Still ... the shot of the elite charging him from behind and getting his head blown off by a shotgun without John even looking at it was on point.
Pretty spot on about the older folk LOVING the show. I'm a big halo fan and love the lore, I don't hate or love the show it's okay for me. But my mom who knows absolutely nothing about any of it? She can't get enough she watches each episode like 3 times a week before the next comes out since last season
I do want to point out that the unsc knowing the covenant is on reach while not telling most others is actually something from the lore. They kept widespread knowledge of the covenant invasion a secret until they could launch an attack as seen in the level Tip of the Spear.
There’s still hope for a Halo show that starts prior to the human covenant war and follows marines through boot camp, to fighting the insurrection, to Contact Harvest, and beyond. There could be some incredible moments with Spartans being appropriate Deus Ex Machinas that save the marines when they’re outmatched, it would focus on the dark, gritty side of the war that Reach only briefly showed. Halo’s one of those experiences that makes you proud to be a human.. being the ultimate killing machine on a side that is losing badly. The mix of bombastic action and somber overtones that amplify each loss. Then, the beautiful irony of the prophets’ persecution of their own gods while justifying it as religious cleansing. For humans to survive such incredible odds, then need to persist in a galaxy they’re set to inherit… there’s SO much potential there. 343 just doesn’t get it man. These showrunners, they just *don’t* get it.
yea alot of shows now are given 2 seasons(short seasons so just a long season split up) so they "season 2 coming soon" making it seem more successful to keep interest and people saying "they gonna fix it in season 2". i can bet now that the wont be a season 3.
I have a feeling that the only character that should unmask themselves in a Halo show should be Emile and the only time he should take off his helmet is his final moments with Noble 6 after he gets stabbed, the reason why I chose him is because there is concept art of his face before Reach was released and shows a glimpse of him without his helmet in comic.
The fact that cover poster for season 2 is chief without a fucking helmet should be reason enough not to watch it. Chiefs helmet or rather the Spartan 2 helmet is the single most iconic thing that Halo is known for. But they decide to throw that shit in the trash just because the actor wants his lil ego stroked and can’t act inside a helmet 🤦🏻♂️
The problem is, I just don't feel like this is humanity's fight for survival. Everyone is just so chill and relaxed, as if there isn't a war going on with humanity's survival on the line. Yeah we had marines and ODSTs chill and be goofballs in games but those felt like soldiers just trying to relieve stress and stay positive in a losing war. Here it feels like the Covenant is just a minor inconvenience and everyone's just going on their daily lives It's like the showrunners don't know how to write a galactic sized conflict with entire race's survival on the line
I really enjoyed this recap on what you think of season 2. I hope you continue to make more as the show continues on. I myself have enjoyed it but also have some “issues” similar to you with it. So far this season has started off much better overall over season 1. Thanks again for this video, keep up the great work!
@@HereticLoyalist I hear you. But not everyone is so willing to take a nuke to the face 🤷🏽♂️ And before you flame, I readily admit I'm not a Halo player.
@TheDeadlyefx No worries, this aint really a Halo show ;) But also they're not human. They're a zealously religious, fanatical warrior based species who love battle glory above most things, faced with the opportunity to kill the Demon warrior who, over the past 25 years has singlehandedly killed more than 1000 of his Elite brothers in arms, who has become a legend in his own right even amongst their ranks, and even earned the respect of many of them, faced with the potential for eternal glory and fame for himself and his family name for all time? 9 out of 10 would most definitely take the chance to kill chief on the spot even if it risked being glassed along with the planet.
10:30 - I agree. And I think it helps that Chief IS meant to be a symbol of hope, including in the original games. So him being used in that way here works. And with the additional contrast between John walking there without his armour vs. seeing his big armour on the screen I think that works.
i'm actually low key intrigued and might be somewhat hooked if things keep being at least decent. though i'm not doing paramount my buddy's gonna stream it to me and the homies over discord
Yeah, you can't want more fight scenes with elites and stuff but simultaneously complain that it isn't "bright enough" when that's exactly why season 1 looked so wonky
You can have a fight scene with fog but also know where everyone is. That's what landmarks are for. A bad fight scene is bad if you don't know where everyone is supposed to be and how they're getting ganked.
That fog is a crutch. Work on your set design so everything doesn't look like it was made from materials bought at hobby lobby, then you don't need as much fog. You should have a defined location that gives a viewer some sense of the space. The cinematography doesn't help either, not many shots have good composition, they just point the camera and film the action, doesn't feel like much thought is put into framing. For $10mil per episode you should be able to do a bit better.
@@andrewjazdzyk1215 You could just pay the VFX people properly and give them the time they need to make the scenes look good, instead of acting like our only choices are somehow foggy as shit or bright and bad.
@@thecynicaloptimist1884 film is still a business. They have to make that money back. There is still only so many dollars to go around on any given project
I mean, you can do that, Emile wasn't all there and probably had some PTSD, and characters in the books like Buck deal with loss, that's not really the biggest issue here imo.
I really hate that Paramount and 343 turn the Master Chief from a stoic killing machine, to an emotional sensitive crybaby. They don't even make it subtle, they make it clear that the entire focus is on his emotions and some b-line romance plot.
What NO ONE COMPALAINED ABOUT KRATOS BEING A DEATH MACHINE AND TURNING IN TO A NICE STOIC AND CHILL DUDE LIKE WHAT bro do you not want your main character to have character develpoment
@@cato_sicarius Literally almost every cutscene in th news games feels like an awkward movie romance, because they literally push this in every cutscene. I also fail to realize what Kratos has to do with this. Not every charackter has go throught the same cliche troupes of sToIc guY wItH bIg HeArT.
When I saw the Super Bowl ad for Halo Season 2, I was both impressed and pissed. It looked amazing, epic, and loyal to the games. And that's what pissed me off so much. If I hadn't seen Season 1, I would be super pumped to watch the show. But I'm not getting my hopes up again until I see the reviews.
10:02 yes that’s the point… they’re just now leaning about how to curse and they don’t quite understand it yet, like children getting a grasp on the world. They even say it’s a bad line.
Hope everyone is prepared for the Winter Cringetingency...
I'll pass.
May God help us all.
Good video keep up the great job
1:06 is my favourite part
to make you feel better play Helldivers 2
I tried to watch S01, but I couldn’t. They’re not making it for the fans. It’s for people like my parents. They like it, but they also know nothing about Halo.
exactly my dad who barely knows anything about the game and he said he liked season one and was really confused on why i didnt like it
My dad loves the show too! And he's very puzzled whenever I'm not hyped just as like he is.
The show just feels like a bad Halo fanfic, needless romance, random subplots, bad writing, and worse versions of memorable moments. It does make me want to go back and replay the games, so its working as cross promotion.
@@patchworkcat6932honestly they made Master Chief too human, he's supposed to slowly rediscover his humanity and barely having any as the games progress, this series is prequel. Is it's a bad AU setting
thats crazy cuz my dad also liked season 1 lmao, i guess all of our dads like the show
Master Chief: Removes his helmet every single minute
Jackal snipers: 👀👀👀
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
"This is it boys"!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Best comment LMAO
What easier a target for a sniper then one without a helmet?
😂😂😂
“They fly now?”
“They fly now!”
“For a brick, he flew pretty good!”
THEY FLY NOW™
This is Outrageous, this unfair, how can you have a season 2 if you're terrible. (The worst line in a worse Star Wars movie if you disagree look at Clone Wars 03 which takes place like 1 hour from the third movie but with worse action, visuals, and dialogue. Even some of the visuals and dialogue are the exact same)
@@sombramemer1230Clone Wars 03?
@@Toby8700Refers to the first Clone Wars show that debuted in 2003. It's different from the more popular one.
@@CrazyxEnigma oh the 2003 one. That one was awsome
The assault rifle has a flashlight built in, there's one attached to the shotgun, and even modern helmets have optional flashlights, it's aggravating how a show about military in space just goes out of it's way to avoid being tactical.
Yes, they seem to avoid as much tactical logic as possible. A singular military consultant could've made this show twice as watchable.
Lol it's a sci Fi fictional show guys. Lol. Easy
@@coryhuff6276 Sci-fi doesn’t preclude logic. Also, “sci-fi” already includes “fiction”.
@@coryhuff6276 The Expanse would like to have a word with your bulls**t...
@@coryhuff6276 Okay, Even if it is a fictional show, It can still have sound logic to it to make sense.
There has been no Master Cheeks so far, I am sad
Sadge
maybe we'll get noble "on your 6"
There has been another Master Cock sighting though, such joy.
Fear not, he shall appear soon. I can sense it
@@SobBaget602 Only if they slap Chiefs Cheeks when saying it smh
"The covenant is on Reach" line will never get old
Is da winter contingency 🗣
@@johnmacangus2634
Do you even remeber in which game it debuts?
ON REACH
@@alejandroaguilar9850 I memba reech
"The Aliens are coming! We've been compromised!"
@@blazelightzero595let it out corporal.
Master Cheeks
Jimmy Rings
Mustard Beef
Hamster queef
Custard Teeth
We all know under that suit, he's got a secret weapon :3
The guy that plays Akerson has actually played the original trilogy (halo 3 being his favorite) and played Halo Reach to get his head into the universe to prepare for his role. Love this guy!
If I'm not wrong his character was never in the game right?
@@renzmanzano4010he’s in the books.
Don’t really matters bc of different timeline
seems like a low bar to play one of the most popular franchises of all time, especially considering how concise the campaigns are, but better than nothing
Akersons Actor was Claus from the Vampire Diaries and The Originals. Love him
"Everyone knows the Master Chief, I wonder if anyone really knows John."
*Cortana, Sam and Kelly left the chat*
Fred, Linda, and every other S-II as well
@@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem I left as well.
@@shep9231 I was never there.
Halsey and Keyes
We have to keep this at 117 likes!
For as technologically advanced as humanity is in the 26th century its wild we've forgotten simple things like flares and flashlights
It’s especially funny considering that flares were used in Halo 3 on the Ark. You know the point in time when humanity was using every last resource they had
Reach had 6 use a flare.
Every game even has a flashlight on at least some of the UNSC weapons.
Heck I figured the green eye piece also allowed for night vision.
@Edax_Royeaux It most likely has that, but it's for HUD.
Season 3 will open with the Arbiter getting out of bed, kiss his girlfriends (a Lek'golo) goodbye, and force jump into a flying car while yelling "its Arbiting time"
He has a romance square with half-jaw, makee, and John halo
Lmfao "arbiting time"?
@@Madboi_91 yes, just as John Halo says "it's haloing time"
And then he Arbited all over.
Season 4 will have the Arbiter-Master Cheeks sex scene with the Prophet of Regret watching
i will say
with the fog scene
i love that master chief can smell the elites
i think its been said in the books that their shields and plasma weaponry give off a distinct smell
ionized ozone or something like that
Ionizing radiation makes ozone yep. Ozone smells sweet (DON'T TAKE A BIG WHIFF OF IT THOUGH)
I don't know if they can smell anything in the suits.
@@thehermitman822 tactically they should be able to
otherwise it would be like giving a marine earplugs
yeah they would be safe from loud noises / toxic environments
at the cost of survivability
from a quick google
fred said in one of the books or comics that the squad of marines he was currently with stunk
but that his suit filters out most of it
@@tylerherr4288 I imagine out of the suits every one stinks or are pungent due to enhanced senses.
The Halo Show writers really just saw Ackerson and assumed the entire UNSC was just like that
I mean... they kind of are? The insurrection exists for very legitimate reasons. The UNSC is not a very good organization. They will do pretty much anything to keep colonies under their thumb and were letting ONI commit atrocities well before the Covenant were known about. Remember the Spartan II's were made to fight other rebelling humans. Children were kidnapped by the hundreds and trained as child super soldiers, all sanctioned by the UNSC.
To be fair, 343 did the same...
To be fair UNSC is like that. They literally are a military dictatorship. And you can’t have a successful dictatorship without corruption.
Why couldn't they have filled the, "Mysterious Ancient Alien Artifact." trope with THE THING THE FRANCHISE IS NAMED AFTER
That trope only works if you make the ancient mcguffin interesting. What’s more interesting than the halo itself
maybe one of the forerunner ai? like mendicant bias. But i doubt the shows creators know any of the deep lore@@Nostripe361
@@jaredelliott5778considering one of the creators explicitly said they dont care (i think they even went so far as to say they hated it but dont quote me on it) for the source material at all i guarantee they dont know it
What franchise am I describing mass effect or halo: protagonist lands on colony planet where humans have dug up artefact, humans attacked by aliens, aliens be killed and protagonist touch artefact that gives visions, protagonist is stopped from leaving base and has to go rogue to stop humanity killing event, protagonist also has space sex.
It’s incredibly eye opening when you see that this shows script was initially supposed to be a mass effect show.
@@minimum7681 it’s the weird thing where studios don’t want to make the property but want the built in fan base to boost their ratings of a story they want to make.
Then get confused when the fan base is angry that the show does nothing with the existing lore but makes the original show they wanted to make instead with cosmetics of the established series
The spartan running looked like one of those shitty "bigfoot caught on camera" clips 😂
That's exactly what I was thinking of!
Its like those run cycles in video games where the animation and script for moving are separate and they dont line them up properly so it looks funny
Should have used some jet pack
How are they supposed to run then?
XD
The fact that the covenant is on reach and people have time for dinner is nuts.
I loved the part where Chief said "Sir.....Curity Camera" it made me rip my shirt off as a result.
I think you need some help.
@thesomethingthatisntathing514 I also came when the armory guy told chief " Who else is gonna clap your cheeks to..." and Chief responds " Tell that to the Covenant"
“Master Chief, you mind telling me what you’re doing back on paramount +?”
“Sir, taking my helmet off.”
“Sir, its Master Cheeks now”
Soren-066 from the pirate bay
Nooooooooooooooo!
Master Chief isn't on paramount plus.
It's Master Cheeks
*clothes off
Red vs Blue is the closest weve gotten to a good Halo show
And they kept their helmets on!!
@@justuskasunic There's only one person on the main team who showed their face and that was Carolina.
And that show was never good unless you were 10 yrs old and a normie.
@@TheJ4RyD Try not to cut yourself with all that edge.
forward unto dawn was pretty good
Meanwhile there's Arcane, Castlevania, The Last of Us, Edgerunners and the Sonic movies. Halo and Witcher fans can shake hands, both were dealt a bad hand.
Agreed. God, can you imagine if Halo was written as well as those shows?
Tbh tlou isn’t good either lmao
@@tecnoguy1136didn’t watch „the last of us“ bc part2 is so bad from the story I didn’t want to waste time
@@tecnoguy1136TLOU is great, tf you on about
@@bobthedonutman404 the game is, the TV show cheaped out on all the good parts and crammed winter into half an episode.
I have an idea. Do a Forward Unto Dawn Style movie of just a group of UNSC marines. Band of Brothers style, tie in how it truly feels to be an average human seeing a spartan leap into battle and take a whole enemy objective by themselves, the awe inspiring nature of it.
That'd be pretty dope
not enough avenues to shove woke shit in the show with that, try again.
I actually enjoyed FUD
Can't wokify that. It would mean actually using people with real talent; love for source material and intentional effort to put out good content.
@@jasoncooper6047: The show's props and costume department got the UNSC gear, weapons, and vehicles right, they are genuine fans. Can't say the same for the writers. All that hard work pissed away by shite writing.
I wish more show runners would play/read/watch the source material.
Bare Minimum get advisers who play or read the source material
@waketp420 cause they didn't listen to those people they had them and ignored them
Its to weird a concept man. Your grasping at straws.
It's absolutely wild we live in a time where someone has to say this.
@waketp420There was only Henry and maybe one other writer who were adamant about staying true to the source material but they fired both of them/ they resigned cause the other writers wanted to make up their own bs
It's crazy because they know what people want to see because those are the parts they put in the ads. When shows do stuff like that, it feels like their intentionally scamming you.
No its just that the people they hire to create cinematics and trailers are not a part of anything. They're usual a small company or private interest who is hired for it and this small group of 5 or however big their company is are usually very good at their job unlike the show runners. The trailers film editors are 100 percent fans of halo and are only allowed to used like 10 seconds max per clips and have to show atleast 25 percent of what the show is about. Thats why disney movies suck. They're trailer creators work for Disney and you can tell by how they keep spoiling the entire movie and then showing us all how trash it is thinking they just made the best thing ever. Same with dceu
@@OGslays TV shows don't hire outside people to do their ads. Most big TV shows nowadays have a television film crew who's part of the production team for the entire show. Them and the producers will usually pick what parts to play in their ads.
@th3-jwalk3r43 if it's cheaper they do. If it's not they don't.
If u didn't know this was trash after season one and canceled, idk what what to tell u
@DeagleGamesTV God your insufferable naive with no understanding of basic concepts. Next time don't make shit up because your too pathetic to ever be apart of it
Why can't they make something that looks and feels like the Halo Reach Deliver Hope trailer? Wonder where those artists are now
It's a lot easier to make a 2 minute trailer than an 8 hour TV show.
Or the Halo 3 ODST trailer which I would say is slightly better than the reach one. The way it shows the guy go from his brother's funeral where he flinches at the 21 gun salute then at the end does the time skip and he's a hard as nails warrior with a big scar, the explosions go off in the distance and he doesn't even blink, just puts on his helmet and looks at his men like "time to work". God it's good.
Because that would be too easy, the people making the show are trying to NOT make a Halo show and instead try to tell their own trash cliche story
Or just the reach campaign. That was better written than this entire show.
Halo 5’s campaign was more about halo than this TV Show
"I am all the covenant"
"And I (dramatic pause) am all the Spartans"
It feels like someone, who actually knew what they were doing, snuck onto the writing team, tried to write some halfway decent lines, but was caught, and despite their efforts, there was still some good stuff left from what he snuck in.
The rest is all classic season 1 stuff though.
Its also like they said "okay they do want some halo stuff in the halo series so we'll give It to them... But we'll still put our personal touh!" But touch is completely wrong for the setting
I think they executed him and burnt the lines he came up with.
No. The Halo TV Show will never be Halo regardless how good or bad it is. The fact Chief's face looks like a Hollywood actor just ruins the lore. They will need to make the show again or just make another Halo Landfall.
Its almost like there are some "special" types who don't grasp that they make these things for a GENERAL AUDIENCE not really for neckbeards who already know Halo. Why does Chief take off his helmet protip: because GENERAL AUDENCES don't want to watch something with a guy wearing a helmet 100% of the time. They don't care about the hardcore they care about the GENERAL AUDIENCE and getting them interested and it clearly worked
If I remember correctly they fired the previous showrunner and hire a new one with more help from 343 too I think
Paramount: How do you do fellow human kids? I also do the K/D with the grapple hooks.
how does paramount do so good with something like sonic, but fail miserably with halo
Cus the Sonic movies are made by people who are actually know what they’re doing. And because Sonic is awesome.
@@Cake9Cakey Sonic 2 is boring and shit.
Sonic 1 is alright.
They can make Are You afraid of the dark? good when is basically an ancient series but Halo no? Wtf
The reason why Halo TV has this infatuation with Spartan emotions is all because of Kiki Wolfkill. She was the executive producer of 343 Industries during Halo 4 and has continued producing Halo media. With the god awful Halo Nightfall, Halo 5 and the current Paramount Halo TV series. She is the one that infamously said Master Chief is not a machine but is a human with emotions back in 2011. She has continued to steer the Halo franchise in that direction when she is in the executive role. If you ever wonder why Halo has changed drastically from Bungie into Halo 4. Maybe look at the people at top who made the decisions, it’s consistently the same people 🤷🏻♂️.
Wonder why Halo Infinite felt like Halo again? Joseph Staten the original Halo writer was in the executive position….
Exactly. And he tried coming back for Infinite and didn’t even make it at 343 for a year. Tells you a lot about the state of the franchise and the company when one of the pivotal members that played a huge role in the OG games dips out
Halo infinite did not feel like Halo again. The story was especially empty but the gameplay also was pretty sparse and boring overall imo. Joseph came in extremely late in production when the campaign world was already built and the story was already done, very little was up for change in the last year.
He was there as project management during crunch time after a year extension was given to finish up the game because a lot was in a rough shape and broken. That's a role of organization and making sure people are all working on the things that need to have focus put on so the game makes the deadline not too broken, not writing or influence on game design. Apparently he was not liked by many employees at 343, so the actual issue is a lot of the studio culture and staff, not just upper management.
Joes role in Microsoft for the past nearly decade I believe has been going through many studios near the end of a game to help with wrapping up the project for release. He hops from place to place and doesn't stay long after release.
@@Everarmed89I mean that's his job at Microsoft, he hops from studio to studio to help with the last bit of development and doesn't stay long after. Microsoft brought him to 343 to do the same thing. It wasn't him who chose to go.
Now I will say 343 has major culture problems and many of the employees don't seem to actually like the job or community. It really should be closed and Halo should rest for a good while, maybe it can come back in 20 years and I would wish not by Microsoft. They have too much bias towards Halo being a cash cow but have no passion or drive to make quality, just money.
Ya know...I didn't mind halo 4.
But five was absolutely terrible and then infinite was....okay at its core but 343 mismanagement by Microsoft and executives hurt it badly.
I hope we see a proper revival someday.
You are just wrong about that. Kiki Wolfkill is some nobody executive. The writing with the chief in Halo games and books is decent.
This show is just terrible. It does everything wrong. Its completely ruining the theme from the real halo of chief and the spartans struggling with their "humanity and purpose." Its just poor writing written by morons.
My favorite part is the show runners setting up like 10 separate plots within the first 2 episode.. You've got Halsey, Sorin, Sorin's wife and kid, Qwan, Silver team, Mackee, Ackerson, Cortana and then the pirates and slaves on rubble I'm sure I'm missing 1 or 2 too.
I was super pissed about Makee showing up again, as they literally showed her getting killed in the S1 finale.
@@CT-9904-Crosshair Probably a clone.
I don't get why they just don't reboot the series. No matter how great following seasons are, the foundation is shit.
We haven’t even seen Miranda Keyes or spent much time with Commander Keyes either
Bet you shills will still watch green lighting a 3rd season.
‘choking some guy out and riding him like a horse’ and then it cut to the shot, i was not ready for that. laughing too much
So it's a man banging another man?
You can tell some attempt at a course-correct was made. They just didn't go hard enough. How many times do we have to cite the Sonic movie as an example of how to please the fans?
They should have just turned contact Harvest into two seasons 🤦🏾
Honestly with the fall of reach coming up, got me thinking it'd be way cooler to get a mini series about a squad of marines defending Reach, than "Mastercheeks defeats the covenant 2 cheeks at a time," that way you wouldn't have to worry about making your characters seem human, because they literally are.
"Forward Unto Dawn" is pretty good for that but I would like to see a more active combat thing, instead of a bunch of rookies.
😂 bro, the mastercheeks defeats the covenant 2 cheeks at a time. Lmao
Unfortunately, all you can do is watch the Forward Unto Dawn mini series to fill that void :/
@@bonitoflakes a man can dream
Nope, instead you get armorless Spartans fighting in one corridor of Reach City for about 30 minutes. Then Chief gets spared by his lover in a display of writing that would make a CoD campaign blush.
They could’ve made this sooooo good, if they stuck to the source material and used the whole ONI and Chief arc and kept it serious and mysterious it would be best shit ever
Yeah but then people would like it.
Todays movies must have either a woke leftist message or they must be pissing on source material. This is even more important then making money.
Agree, this could be easily one of the best serials out there, instead of it, i have a problem watching it. Especialy whole arc Chief is mental and his team doubts him is boiling my blood. Thats the exact opposite of Master Chief and his team, they were loyal to him always, they never doubted him coss he was like a machine, he was always few steps ahead, he was best of best and everyone knew it.
Yes, but that would have required competent people with humility across the board. They would need a lead actor who's not so in love with himself he can't help buy pull his damn helmet off every 5 second to show off his "gorgeous face". You would need writers that had the humility of adapting someone else's superior writing, rather than thinking they can do better without an iota of evidence to back that up. They would need SFX teams who understood basic concepts like conservation of momentum, so their Spartan suits would look realistic, and not like they weigh nothing...
So basically, in the woke, egomaniacal, modern hollyweird, this show didn't stand a chance.
That's impossible because they have massive egos and they would be forced to admit that the lore of one of the biggest franchises in all videogame history is actually good. You see, hollywood hates videogames.
This is a direct result of the source being from a game unfortunately. There isn’t a legitimate director the networks will hire that actually has played the games from the beginning and to them it isn’t a concern at all.
Ah shit. Here we go again.
Yep
420 likes!
Worst place in the world, Halo Tv Show Country
"Am I a Spartan?"
YES, NOW SHOOT STUFF FOR FUCK SAKE
The lack of shooting in a show about an fps game is concerning excluding the obvious reasons the show sucks. Its like if the walking dead didnt have zombies until season 2 everyone would be waiting on the zombies and bored shitless
343 has been trying to ask "But who is John?" since Halo 4 and it's never gone anywhere at all. John is a badass, that's all you need to know about The Chief
John is supposed to be the player; that’s why he had very little dialogue and characterization in the Bungie games. Trying to develop his character like 343 tried to do isn’t a bad idea by default, but it was done so badly here that it ruined everything.
except halo 4 probably has the best written narrative in all of the halo games.
@@orangesoda51414 If you think drama equates to a better narrative, sure. Its best dialogue is comparable to the worst lines from Halo 3. So much cheese.
Halo 4 had the best narrative!!!
(forgets there’s a cutscene where there’s like 10 minutes of nothing but exposition dumping with the librarian).
Finally, if you have to retcon the whole franchise by adding terminals to make it make sense: you have written a BAD story.
Go play Halo 2 if you want the best narrative.
I agree with you, but that’s not entirely true though. Master Chief has been characterized since the beginning with the books, and I feel like the early books just the right amount of characterization to give you background, but it was never about exploring him as a character as much as it was about enriching the world it took place in. You could argue about whether that’s good writing, but I believe that it was perfectly serviceable and enjoyable.
@@orangesoda51414 In the 'who is the machine here?' aspect I agree, but the Covenant and Didact parts of the plot just feel like a big mess imo. I also find the mad disrespect of MC by Del Rio was both confusing and goofy. Playing through all the Bungie Halos and playing 4 immediately after felt almost like fanfic or Chief got sent to an alternate reality
Riz said, "Suck big ass, Karim." referring to Karim-002 aka the Spartan who thinks he's good looking. Anyway, I also thought she said "big ass cream" which is why I had to double take with the subtitles on. Still though, I have never heard that as an insult and just have to assume that the Spartans have not learned any new insults since they were six years old due to the emotion-suppressing-pellet-thingamajig.
Nah, it’s “suck big ass cream” now
And on top of that, Karim sarcastically goes “niccee” which single handedly saves the conversation from cringe dialogue, as if it was intentional. Proof of this, he quickly retorts “You still getting your material from Vanik?”
This is an understatement to be sure, but the vibe I get is that the showrunners don't take the source material seriously. The "what's your KDR?" scene just sounded like the writers going "Geddit? Because it's a video game! In a video game adaptation! It's silly game! Games silly! Geddit?" Like why would you just ask some random person you just met what their KDR is? Imagine meeting a stranger and just going "Hello! What's your KDR? Don't tell me you never played Counter Strike!" They'd look at you like you should be in a straitjacket. It felt like one of those "mEtA" scenes that's in fucking everything now where writers do the wink-wink at the camera, as if they're sniggering while typing it out going "oh god this is just so cringe, why did I agree to this, I am a SERIOUS writer".
Not defending it or anything but they’ve stated numerous times this takes place in a different universe than the games/books do. They kinda made it known they weren’t going to use the source material early
Why? Antiwar activism.
Wait what? Someone asks what someone’s KDR is? Wtf. You can only die once, so there’s no ratio it’s just how many you’ve killed… and even that, that’s a question that can’t be asked lightly unless it’s coming from someone we’re supposed to hate immediately.
Damn you take this shit wayyy too seriously
@@lolilol5346 yeah I know its incredibly confusing for bots like you to understand how somebody who's a fan of the games would actually want what they plyed for their adapted tv series...
See they have two options A) make a shot by shot remake of the books which I would have preferred or B) do a slightly different but not super changed yet it’s a new story but with similar story beats
But no they made something very different
You know a lot of the books are completely random and have conflicting lore, right?
I heard a great quote from a TH-camr “audiences will accept the impossible, but never the improbable”
some how Palpatine returns.
Master Chief being invited to dinner reminds me of the Mad TV skit where Master Chief was invited to dinner.
Idk man I’m Hispanic and I can definitely see my family inviting Chief to dinner for sure
@@TheOnlyAzure And talk about the soldier’s kill death ratio
@@TheOnlyAzure I invite him to have me for dinner. I am also Hispanic, but I don't want my family there.🤣🤣🤣
It really doesn't change much from the first season, there are things that can no longer be forgotten, for example that Jimmy Rings will take off his helmet, Kwan, makee, the pill, that Jimmy Rings having tried to kill Halsey twice, orgasms from touching objects forerruner, etc, overall it sucks a little less.
It really does
The Spartans run like Buzz Lightyear.
There it is
Depicting them running like A gazelle or Cheetah would be rather difficult.
@@AKlover but how Master Cheeks ran in Season one was fine. They just sped up his
Sprinting which looked authentic and fast
@@forgeinsurancellc An augmented human also wearing power armor would likely have an insane stride length, they did it better in season 1 but that still falls short of what the reality would be.
I think the Covenant unsheathed their energy swords because they were concerned about the battery life on them. Truly a moment of TV
That's not good batteries work budderino
@@TheMcstevesteryour sentence doesn’t make sense “budderino”
Think you mean sheathed
yeah cause in the games they never used the activation as psychological effect... oh wait they did... yall just hating for no reason at this point.
@@AdonisGaming93never in the games did elites just randomly ignite their swords and then walk away from their targets.
Your simpin hard for this trash
There's definitely some kind of uncanny valley feel every time we get a shot of Spartans in action.
"Waiting for it to feel like Halo" is 1000% accurate. My best hope is that this just opens up the door for other spin-offs or even a movie like how the Force Awakens opened the door for Rogue One and The Mandolorian. I can only hope...
how did force awakens open the door for rogue one? the events were before FA
@@hanzohattori4078 in terms of the commercial success that made Disney dump more money into Star Wars, not the literal timeline
And it also opened doors that shouldn't be open. 8, 9, Book of Boba, Mando 3, Ashoka, Obi-wan, and many more to come. Sadly.
The Farce Awakens did nothing to set the table for Rouge 0, Revenge of the Sith did that ffs
It will never feel like Halo, because that would require humility to adapt the source material faithfully. Modern day hollyweird is so full of narcissists that it's absolutely impossible for them to fathom someone in the past could have possibly done a better job than they are doing today...
My friend described the CGI for the Spartans as "it looks like it came out of a taco bell commercial."
It’s like they give us a glimpse of a proper halo show and then beeline to their personal plot
Pretty much this. The first 3 episodes, much like the first season, has its moments when it feels like Halo. Then it does a bait and switch and gives us the Kwan show on Rubble. The pacing is way too uneven and spends way too much time on subplots that has nothing to do with Halo and will never tie in with the main story. Theres nothing of value with these other subplots at all. Horrible writing.
Episode 4 seemed like a proper fucking Halo Show to me
These marines look like idiots in this show. I’m no longer into it. Terrible costume design
@@Tiberious_Of_Elona Its closer to the Halo that we have wanted from day 1. But its getting high marks because it doesn't include the bullshit that nobody is asking for. Thats a pretty low bar IMO. But keep in mind, the Master Chief also doesn't wear his signature armor in the entire episode. So its still not the Halo we deserve.
This is called the bait and switch, just like the mandalorian is not about the mandalorian anymore, but about girl bosses. This same theme happens when shit writers take over.
I think them showing so little of the Covenant is a GOOD thing atm! Saving up that budget for Covenant heavy CGI episodes of course
I really enjoyed the Halo Believe ad campaign. I really think a band of brothers type of show couldve been cool with just some random rag tag team of UNSC Soliders or ODST and it couldve been soldiers reminiscing about the past and telling an interviewer what happened and then the episode begins
Everybody knows if Master Chief were to clap alien cheeks it could only be Arbiter's.
Ayo pause!
I felt an overwhelming sense of dread when you said that they could be building up to the fall of reach. I sure as hell can’t wait for them to try and “interpret” my favorite story in media.
FOR REAL. I swear to Christ if they bring in Noble Team and ruin them with shitty writting, it will be the end of the Halo tv show.
Guess what
They indeed are doing the fall of reach
@@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009 The fall of the fall of Reach
Also it makes no sense cause reach takes place at the end of the war. And as far as the halo show is concerned, the war just started.
@@Kenny-xx7je it's been happening in the background, it just did an poor job explaining that
They removed their swords because Makee told them to. The camera literally panned to the side to show Chief's pov and you could see the silhouette of Makee in the fog. It is later referenced in dialogue as well.
1st season should have been SGt Johnson on contact harvest. With the B plot each episode used to build up the Spartans, showing the perspective of the Insurrectionists and shit. Then at the finale for season one, John Chief himself shows up and the audience understands his power. Then we cut with harvest being invaded.
Real But the casual audience have no clue what any of the fuck that is so it’ll never get done because it has the pander to the masses
@@1Loftwing1 If anything a casual audience would have an easier time understanding and following 'regular human' Johnson in an alien invasion story then the Spartans.
@@1Loftwing1I feel like that's the real problem with this show, everyone has so many expectations that are unrealistic without costing way too much money. There are things you can get away with in a video game that you can't in a live action television series without spending Avengers level cash, which not all studios have access to.
This is a better plot than what Paramount did, that's for sure.
It’s sad because all they had to do was follow the books and add cool fluff. Make Master Chief more of a mystery, and make Sgt. Johnson the main character with Chips Dubbo. General audiences can very easily grasp a straightforward sci-fi war story. The budget could be an issue but mainly because they wouldn’t be able to launder so much money from it.
Why would the elites need to hide in fog? They have camo!
If they didn't want to animate them, they could've made them somewhat invisible.
Also UNSC radar cannot penetrate clouds....
Also UNSC don't have night/thermal/motion detection vision.
Stupidest writing...ever
Not all elites have camo, this is the least of our worries 😢
They literally use the camo….
@@thedoncjg6263 Clearly not enough if they needed the fog
@@thedoncjg6263then fog isn't needed lmao
I was so happy when they had the mission debrief in episode one and glossed over the fact that Madrigal got glassed. I was like YES the writers finally understood Kwan's plot was dumb, glassed her and her planet to oblivion and focus on the main plot. Then the god damn final scene came on ... SOB!
I watched it on an airplane and i was annoyed that she wanted to to back home and then going back home was a bad idea and she ended up failing in every way. Like it was all useless
Bringing on new writers helps but they are still stuck with a lot of decisions made prior to their hire. Story and contracts.
@@Groovy_Bruce I mean they didnt have to bring the character back.. Could've just had her die. Unless of course she is signed for several seasons
One thing I noticed was that last fight for the artefact season1 was how that whole scene looked to anitmed/cgi compared to earlier episodes 😂
Theres actually a small detail about Chief and his struggle with emotions in Halo 4 i hope returns.
If you notice, any time chief gets uncomfortable or the topic turns to emotions, he either fiddles with his gun, His equipment, or something he was trained in. He constantly tries to push his emotions aside to focus on the things he knows. War, weapons, tactics, because the unknown kinda does scare him. Chief feels fear, I bet a lot of it. If he didnt, he wouldnt be the bravest person like he is. He faces his fear in spite of it being so overwhelming. Thats bravery.
"Fear is good, true Bravery is pushing past the Fear to do what needs to be done"
"Those without Fear will never know Bravery"
That’s pretty gay
So i actually do a bit of VFX myself (not at a big level) but one thing i do know is that if something isnt looking quite right in motion, the trick is to mask it with motion blur, and the fog is a tool to make the elites look more realistic and menacing. Sometimes thats the plan from the start, and sometimes its just because they dont have enough time to make it better
This is exactly what was going on in my head as well. I don't do VFX but I watch a lot of corridor crew on youtube and they explain a lot of what goes into VFX and this sounds like tricks of the trade that they explain a lot. The VFX team was probably strapped for time and they had to rely on the motion blur and post processing effects to hide imperfections.
You can tell there isnt real passion put into alot of this
@@playboyj0hnny270 Im Sure there is plenty of passion put into it. The main problem is the writing and overall focus. Too many characters and side plots.. The same level of effects with a tight focus on masterchief and silverr team being badass war heroes would've been great.
Aren't Spartan 2s identities supposed to be classified for civilians? I may be wrong but it's just weird he's having dinner with a marine's family and they know who he is.
I dont think they knew who he was exactly, they just thought he worked with Perez (aka a marine like her)
Yes that is yet another reason why he never takes off his helmet infront of any civilians and never shows his face in the games. During the time that the series is intended to take place in no one outside of select units of the USNC, even knew spartans existed.
i dont get how he doesnt understand that kwan, the red head guy, and the guy ridden by the auctioneer were all slaves and thats why they have the trackers on their ears. its not that hard to understand
This guys ability to infer and understand unspoken concepts is really lacking lol
8:20 this part was written by besthesda
Press A to talk
A
"Hello there demon"
B
"Goodbye"
the fact that you called him Johnny Rings instead of Jimmy Rings is very troubling to me. I must now remove my helmet, complain to my superiors, and go to an AI strip club for therapy
Don’t forget you also have to clap some covenant spy’s cheeks
My first thought when he pulled out the Grapple:
"I thought they didn't look at the games"
I mean, that was a completely different showrunner
@@andrewjazdzyk1215 Ah, thank you, I didn't know. I didn't follow this show very closely.
Does Hollywood ever do anything exactly how you see it in a game or book no if halo is screwed up then you can rest assured that anything else they bring to the screen is going to be jacked up so just enjoying what you can and move on.
Honestly everything outside of Kwan and sozen being a space pirate was great. They just need to focus on stories around silver team and ONI & Halsey
I just said that too, anything outside of silver team, ONI and Halsey can be cut from the show.
Kwan is boring, The Pirate Nonsense is irrelevant to the story.
The halo show had sooo much potential.
Theres so many ways it could go.
They couldve had the first 2 episodes be the a shortened plot of Contact Harvest.
Show johnson fighting Innies to establish the setting before the covenant, then take steps towards the "diplomatic" meeting with the covenant that failed spectatcularly.
Show a condensed version of The Cole Protocol to show just how dedicated the spartans are to their mission and just how effective they are even in a small group. There's just so many ways they could've done this show, but they decided to go with a Johnny Sims look-a-like that would rather literally show his ass and cry than be more accurate to the charater we grew to love and admire.
this
5:43 they couldn't even give the sniper rifle the correct sight. When will we get a good Halo TV show?
I was thinking that same thing. It's ridiculous
The Halo AR has a flashlight on it, Like there is no good reason for them not to use their flashlights, just a misunderstanding of source material.
14:37 i actually think this might be a reference to either Spartan assault or Spartan strike which are two top down shooter games within the halo series
I also think they said that our spartans in multiplayer are cannon spartans doing combat training, so maybe it is a reference to that?
Honestly one of the coolest things to me always about halo is kinda how Spartans kinda consider their armor their faces especially Spartan 2s, 3s less so but still alittle bit, because they went through so much crap to earn that armor which is essentially their identity, which is why I don’t like 4s because they are basically just dudes in power suits who don’t care and take their helmets off all the damn time. I love the idea of telling a story without the protagonist having a face.
Mandalorian did that right
I just dont get why its such a big deal and ive been a halo fan since halo ce. I just dont get people's nitpicky obsession for chief to not be human when he is and even Bungie did a face reveal and he was an old white dude.
@@TmtrnrWhen did bungie do a face reveal?
Exactly. I've always just viewed master chief's face as his helmet as weird as that sounds
until they didnt..I wish they would make it just a mandalorian thing but unfortunately bo katan is now in charge and she leads the boring mandalorians that have no culture behind them or definable characteristics what so ever and just are humans in armor.@@Shinigami8143
I think most of us could have done a better job writing the story by sticking to the scource material. Since story-writing for movies and shows is always a team effort, we could work with some experienced people, who could tell us where some cutting and reworking is neccessary to make it compatible with the runtime of a movie or a show episode. The Fall of Reach book alone in tv show form would be a dream come true.
But If we do that - at which Point to we piss on the source material?
This is critical for game Adaptations. Thats what we learn in narcistic Art University.
God, we could've gotten an awesome show if they just followed the games. God damn. Imagine a cool casting for Keyes and Johnson. Good fights with the Covenent. Gruesome Body Horror With the Flood.
I love that this universe has chiefs armour, one of the most technologically baffling things, but the standard marine not using flashlights is beautiful.
Also that shot of the covenant was executed cool, but nothing can beat the star wars trailer were all the Sith in the back of the ship from the old republic trailer like my god.
They put their swords away bc Perez is a fate worse than death
We see the covenant for 4 gd minutes at the end wtf the subplots are hot fucking garbage-written by an embecile who believes they are a creative genius
somewhat the MA assault rifles had integrated flashlight and on board computer with battery that recharges when shooting lol
Apparently they dont have cameras in chiefs nor the marine helmet though.. The main conflict of the human storyline is that noone believes Chief which makes absolutely no sense.
The very first introduction of the Flood in Halo 1 is done through a helmet recording
@@MaMastoastHad this same thought, once again an example of, “they wrote a generic story and put a halo skin on top of it” with complete disregard for the source material.
I think Spartan Attack is a reference to Spartan Strike and Spartan Assault, since both of those games are simulations in universe.
I actually really liked that scene and chuckled with my brother, although it's probably because me and him could relate to the scene since the scene showed Hispanics and me and my brother are Puerto Rican and I understand that a bit of the dialogue was cheesy so I could see why act man didn't like it. But yeah I also immediately thought of that when they said it.
@@Neko16gramwhite people in the 1940s would've loved you
@@Neko16gram it's probably just because you have bad taste
@@Neko16gram The problem is that no gamer talks like that. You dont go "Hey whats your kill death ratio".... "What you dont play counter strike?".. There must be thousands of different games, why on earth would you start with that KDR question? Its just bad writing.
Imagine someone randomly asking you "Hey, What's your favourite weapon?"... "What? You don't play Baldurs gate 3?".. nonsense
"Sucks big ass creme."
Kinda sums it all up. Glad we got that phrase now, at the very least.
Sounds like it was made by AI
There will be memes on memes on memes off of that one for sure.
I thought she said Kareem, not Creme. Guess I'm wrong lol
Went back and rewatched it. She did say Suck Big Ass, Kareem.
The guy she was talking to his name is karim, she made it sound very close to cream
As good as it was to see a fully suited John-117 fighting elites up on that plateau or mountain or whatever it was ... it was executed poorly. The armour's motion trackers would have pin pointed the locations of every single one of those elites even through fog so he should have been able to react to each one faster than he did.
Still ... the shot of the elite charging him from behind and getting his head blown off by a shotgun without John even looking at it was on point.
Pretty spot on about the older folk LOVING the show. I'm a big halo fan and love the lore, I don't hate or love the show it's okay for me. But my mom who knows absolutely nothing about any of it? She can't get enough she watches each episode like 3 times a week before the next comes out since last season
I’ve been a huge fan of halo all the way back to CE and I actually enjoy the show. It’s got it’s problems but I can see it for what it is.
My respects to your mother and tell her that she is not the only one ♥
I do want to point out that the unsc knowing the covenant is on reach while not telling most others is actually something from the lore.
They kept widespread knowledge of the covenant invasion a secret until they could launch an attack as seen in the level Tip of the Spear.
They Kept it from Civilians, the Information was Known amongst the Navy and Military.
I really wish I had written the Halo TV show. I've read every book, played every game, and love the lore.
Sooo what would you do differently?
@@TheWordName I don’t remember asking you 😂
@@UEiamjetshut up
@@TheWordName i think problem is they want to do anything but a halo show, and they only do halo because they have to.
Please no
There’s still hope for a Halo show that starts prior to the human covenant war and follows marines through boot camp, to fighting the insurrection, to Contact Harvest, and beyond. There could be some incredible moments with Spartans being appropriate Deus Ex Machinas that save the marines when they’re outmatched, it would focus on the dark, gritty side of the war that Reach only briefly showed.
Halo’s one of those experiences that makes you proud to be a human.. being the ultimate killing machine on a side that is losing badly. The mix of bombastic action and somber overtones that amplify each loss. Then, the beautiful irony of the prophets’ persecution of their own gods while justifying it as religious cleansing. For humans to survive such incredible odds, then need to persist in a galaxy they’re set to inherit… there’s SO much potential there.
343 just doesn’t get it man. These showrunners, they just *don’t* get it.
Wait, didn't Master Chief die and get turned into a zombie meat puppet by Cortana in season 1? Did he just get better?
The bar set from s1 was so low demons in hell we're playing limbo with it😭
Man at least there was some action. Season 2 3 episodes is mindless dialogue with characters nobody cares abou.t
legit can't believe this got a 2nd season.
Apparently it was greenlit before season 1 even came out
@@fezii9043 You'd think business people would understand not to do that.
yea alot of shows now are given 2 seasons(short seasons so just a long season split up) so they "season 2 coming soon" making it seem more successful to keep interest and people saying "they gonna fix it in season 2". i can bet now that the wont be a season 3.
I have a feeling that the only character that should unmask themselves in a Halo show should be Emile and the only time he should take off his helmet is his final moments with Noble 6 after he gets stabbed, the reason why I chose him is because there is concept art of his face before Reach was released and shows a glimpse of him without his helmet in comic.
(Willy Wonka Lady rides a guy and chokes him with the mic cord)
Act Man: Yeah I think the acting has improved
You know how short the battery life is on those marines' flashlights is. The batterys were recharging by the time we get to see them.
The fact that cover poster for season 2 is chief without a fucking helmet should be reason enough not to watch it. Chiefs helmet or rather the Spartan 2 helmet is the single most iconic thing that Halo is known for. But they decide to throw that shit in the trash just because the actor wants his lil ego stroked and can’t act inside a helmet 🤦🏻♂️
So iconic they built an entire collector series around a non wearable version of it :)
The problem is, I just don't feel like this is humanity's fight for survival. Everyone is just so chill and relaxed, as if there isn't a war going on with humanity's survival on the line. Yeah we had marines and ODSTs chill and be goofballs in games but those felt like soldiers just trying to relieve stress and stay positive in a losing war. Here it feels like the Covenant is just a minor inconvenience and everyone's just going on their daily lives
It's like the showrunners don't know how to write a galactic sized conflict with entire race's survival on the line
I really enjoyed this recap on what you think of season 2. I hope you continue to make more as the show continues on. I myself have enjoyed it but also have some “issues” similar to you with it. So far this season has started off much better overall over season 1. Thanks again for this video, keep up the great work!
The elites leave without fighting at 8:20 because when the covenant decides theyre glassing a planet, they do it regardless of who is on the ground.
They stop because Mcgayyy is there and tells them to stop. You can make out her silhouette in that foggy ass fog right after the elites turn around.
Exactly. They got the general retreat order. Not everything has to be spelled out.
I dont believe a single Elite would have given up the opportunity to kill The Demon, regardless of what was about to happen.
@@HereticLoyalist I hear you. But not everyone is so willing to take a nuke to the face 🤷🏽♂️
And before you flame, I readily admit I'm not a Halo player.
@TheDeadlyefx No worries, this aint really a Halo show ;)
But also they're not human. They're a zealously religious, fanatical warrior based species who love battle glory above most things, faced with the opportunity to kill the Demon warrior who, over the past 25 years has singlehandedly killed more than 1000 of his Elite brothers in arms, who has become a legend in his own right even amongst their ranks, and even earned the respect of many of them, faced with the potential for eternal glory and fame for himself and his family name for all time? 9 out of 10 would most definitely take the chance to kill chief on the spot even if it risked being glassed along with the planet.
10:30 - I agree. And I think it helps that Chief IS meant to be a symbol of hope, including in the original games. So him being used in that way here works. And with the additional contrast between John walking there without his armour vs. seeing his big armour on the screen I think that works.
i'm actually low key intrigued and might be somewhat hooked if things keep being at least decent.
though i'm not doing paramount my buddy's gonna stream it to me and the homies over discord
Oh you just wait for episode 4. Biggest battle in the entire show AND NO ONE IS WEARING THEIR SPARTAN SUITS
The fog is a cool trick to save on resources and add mystery. It’s also more gritty, which we all wanted more from season 1.
Yeah, you can't want more fight scenes with elites and stuff but simultaneously complain that it isn't "bright enough" when that's exactly why season 1 looked so wonky
You can have a fight scene with fog but also know where everyone is. That's what landmarks are for. A bad fight scene is bad if you don't know where everyone is supposed to be and how they're getting ganked.
That fog is a crutch. Work on your set design so everything doesn't look like it was made from materials bought at hobby lobby, then you don't need as much fog. You should have a defined location that gives a viewer some sense of the space. The cinematography doesn't help either, not many shots have good composition, they just point the camera and film the action, doesn't feel like much thought is put into framing. For $10mil per episode you should be able to do a bit better.
@@andrewjazdzyk1215 You could just pay the VFX people properly and give them the time they need to make the scenes look good, instead of acting like our only choices are somehow foggy as shit or bright and bad.
@@thecynicaloptimist1884 film is still a business. They have to make that money back. There is still only so many dollars to go around on any given project
Spartans , now represent PTSD emo soldiers. Instead of killing machines
I mean, you can do that, Emile wasn't all there and probably had some PTSD, and characters in the books like Buck deal with loss, that's not really the biggest issue here imo.
@@grindcoreninja6527it seems there emo with less of the fun death machine element
I really hate that Paramount and 343 turn the Master Chief from a stoic killing machine, to an emotional sensitive crybaby.
They don't even make it subtle, they make it clear that the entire focus is on his emotions and some b-line romance plot.
What NO ONE COMPALAINED ABOUT KRATOS BEING A DEATH MACHINE AND TURNING IN TO A NICE STOIC AND CHILL DUDE LIKE WHAT bro do you not want your main character to have character develpoment
@@cato_sicarius Literally almost every cutscene in th news games feels like an awkward movie romance, because they literally push this in every cutscene.
I also fail to realize what Kratos has to do with this. Not every charackter has go throught the same cliche troupes of sToIc guY wItH bIg HeArT.
When I saw the Super Bowl ad for Halo Season 2, I was both impressed and pissed. It looked amazing, epic, and loyal to the games. And that's what pissed me off so much. If I hadn't seen Season 1, I would be super pumped to watch the show. But I'm not getting my hopes up again until I see the reviews.
5:43 i noticed that to, you can see. the edits in fights scenes, once you see them, you never unseen them
10:02 yes that’s the point… they’re just now leaning about how to curse and they don’t quite understand it yet, like children getting a grasp on the world. They even say it’s a bad line.
Hmmm, makes sense to me.
Bullshit i dare you to find a single drill instructor that doesn't curse, these kids should know curses we've never dreamed of.