1 Tip FOR And AGAINST EVERY Splatoon 3 Sub
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"I like torpedo so it gets 3 tips" - Torpedo Master ProChara after finding all 982301 torpedo spots
How the hell does this not have replies
KRapid my beloved
Real
Wait whu?
Another tip, if you get hit by a torpedo, try to stay at the point of impact! Sometimes when trying to get out of the way, you get killed by the secondary hits that come with a slight delay.
torpedos are just homing cluster bombs
its a sub that stocks you
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@@Rhinoceros14 What di you mean i stock
Tips for sprinkler! It takes about 8 seconds for it to start that slow output, and by then it’s already covered most of what it was gonna cover. Throw them every 8 seconds in places where they won’t get touched because it’s free special farming. Depending on your kit, you could have your special as soon as you’re in range of the objective which is CRAZY
Another one: Splatoon 1 and 2 were a lot more strict about what counted as out-of-bounds, where a thrown sprinkler would just disappear on contact - but now in 3 a lot more of the terrain around the stage counts as in-bounds so it can be zipcasted to, meaning you can get sprinklers in high-up spots that allow them to cover a larger area and are difficult for anything but the longest-range weapons to get rid of (the giant pillars in Undertow and the light fixture above mid in MakoMart are great examples).
This, especially in ranked where the spawn are usually doesn't get painted very well. Set a sprinkler whenever you respawn and it's free special charge
6:02
Another tip for Sprinkler: You can throw it below the Rainmaker before it generates its shield, that way it’ll help popping the shield much quicker
With squid rolling through toxic mist being as strong as it is. I’d recomend putting it not in areas where the enemies want to move through but where they want to stand. Throw it on the snipers perch to force them to lose a bunch of ink and move speed if they want to use it. The tower is probably the best place for toxic mist as someone always wants to be standing there and it can’t be blocked by the central pillar unlike other subs.
BotChara
Agree
I do this a lot when I played Tri-Slosher. If I see a backline hanging out at his post I mist him lol. Also, I don't know how often this occurs but you can also mist uninkable paths people want to take because then they can't just parry through it 🤔
Super annoying on tower control like that
Bonus tip for Curling Bomb: If you feel someone is underneath a ledge or someone is trying to climb a ledge, charge it to give them a nasty surprise. It is a marvel at baiting at the ledge. Take advantage of the increased blast radius when charged.
and make sure you clip that kill if you get it, it's hilarous.
@@general.catallion_8054 "Hit by Curling Bomb" is my favorite thing to see in replays from other peoples' perspectives. Once got someone who was jumping onto the tower with curling. Totally on purpose (totally) and fun to see.
@@leopardseals a totally random sprinkler kill is also fun, unfortunately the latest update wiped the replay but on mahi mahi turf war i had thrown a sprinkler onto the top of the middle tower while a fight was happening below, and by pure chance a droplet landed on a dapples below, killing them.
Another tip for line marker. (as it's my favorite) just like burst, don't use it for only yourself. The decent damage and great range allows you to poke enemies good. If you have good aim and want to help your teammates for far, poke an enemy. You'll catch them off guard, locate them, and do some damage. It's better than it looks! (Just really difficult to be good)
average burst bomb fan vs average line marker enjoyer
The fact that marker outranges E-litre too makes it a decent poking tool for weapons that lockdown areas.
Oh my god someone else who’s favourite sub is angle
I never thought I’d see the day
@@dark_moth7 wait it does?? lmao
Tip for angle shooter: ground bounces shoot forward no matter the angle. If you throw it at the ground at any point between you and your target at their ground level it will hit them.
If you want it bouncing off walls at ground level make sure it hits the ground before it hits a wall.
Honestly, my main tip for squid beakon players is to run sub power up. The increased super jump speed is applied to everyone that uses them and your whole team can come back phenomenally fast.
that and running 2-9 subs of sub power-up is worth it. it has a slight exponential effect,
for example:
running 6 ap of sub up = 7 ap of quick jump
9 ap of sub = 12 ap of jump
12 ap of sub = 16 ap of jump
and so on, though, it still caps at 57 ap of quick super jump
additional tip for fizzy bomb, since each explosion moves it forwards a little bit, moving backwards can cause you to get hit by more than 1 explosion or even die. try to move sideways when possible or forwards when no other options exist
Sprinkler can be a lot more annoying than people give credit for. Placing it high up so that it paints a choke can be a real problem. If you place it on a specific spot on the spinner in Museum d'Alfonsino then it can almost completely stop the Rainmaker from being able to push forward as they have to turn around to destroy it.
Also, always put Sprinklers on the tower! They paint a ton of area while the tower moves and can shield the rider if placed on top. Put it on the pole if you want extra painting range, on the top of the tower if you want a shield, or on one of the sides if you want it to survive against enemies for longer. Also make sure to recon maps and find sprinkler spots! There are many good places in the new and returning maps that are very difficult to deal with and can put pressure on good chokes.
My final tip is to throw sprinklers at chargers just cuz' it's funny.
Another tip for sprinkler
Most maps have high spots that most weapons can't shoot up to.
My personal favourite is the cage like thing at the top of Mako Mart right in the middle of the stage just hop on the two boxes on either side of the map jump and throw it up to one of the beams.
You now have consistant ink coverage as long as the enemy re-inks the turf and for as long as the sprinkler doesn't run out of ink
Tips for beacon: Open your damn map.
Tips against beacon: Open your damn map.
Something else about toxic mist, it can be good in certain push situations or if someone is trying to hide because you get a sound que that you could use to find people and know where they are if you end up looking away from the one you just threw or someone flanked etc. To avoid or defend against them
True but that's more guesswork. Point sensor does that job a bit better.
@@kristopherhayes1957 I dont think I see what you mean by guesswork, if it's what I think you're implying there is no guesswork in the sound que, you'll either throw one mist or throw one mist, refill and throw another one, when you get the sound que you'll either know exactly where they are because you know where you threw the mist if you have awareness to focus on it paying attention to everything else with it or they'll be in either or, which is the least likely seeing that you wont be using 2 back to back too often
Even then I still agree, point sensor still absolutely does that job a lot better. But it's a use for toxic mist specifically that can be somewhat difficult to get used to that I think is really important if you play a weapon that uses toxic mist
@@abstral7192 yes you did understand what I meant earlier. I would also add that despite my love for the sub weapon it isn't very strong. It needs more of a buff similar to what it used to be with disruptor.
@@kristopherhayes1957 agree
3:16 - Also, if you are a slow fire rate weapon, remember that torpedos are like autobombs: retreat before it hits (or stay in the middle if you don't have pressure, many times the secondary hits won't damage you if the torpedo exploded high enough) and reorganise, it's better than be splatted.
4:39 - Be aware of your teammates condition: mist might have little use for yourself but supporting a teammate engaged with an opponent might do a big difference when pushing, especially in bottlenecks and narrow areas like those of Schorch Gorge and Hammerhead (a bit like point sensor), so mid-to-long range weapons should try to see and spot these situations in which you can make your allies' life easier - this if you are not doing something more important to support you team already, obviously.
I find success with using charged curling bomb around corners and over ledges. Especially with the roller, having extra zoning options is very useful
these videos are getting more and more well edited! props to everyone involved!! i really wish splatoon goes mainstream one day and more great creators make splatoon content!
Timestamps:
0:13 Splat Bomb
0:39 Suction Bomb
1:10 Burst Bomb
1:50 Autobomb
2:16 Fizzy Bomb
2:45 Torpedo
3:32 Curling Bomb
4:05 Ink Mine
4:27 Toxic Mist
4:57 Point Sensor
5:28 Splash Wall
6:00 Sprinkler
7:00 Angle Shooter
one more tip for beakons: if you have space on your build, PLEASE work in some sub power up!! it basically stacks a ton of quick super jump onto anyone who jumps to your beakons, it’s super valuable for getting teammates back to the frontlines quickly (especially on the vdapples, where you can give max qr to teammates with tacticooler as well)
and as i said in a different comment
"that and running 2-9 subs of sub power-up is worth it. it has a slight exponential effect,
for example:
running 6 ap of sub up = 7 ap of quick jump
9 ap of sub = 12 ap of jump
12 ap of sub = 16 ap of jump
and so on, though, it still caps at 57 ap of quick super jump"
Sub weapons really give a lot of value in this game. Each sub weapon has a strong use for many scenarios, so mastering how to use and counter sub weapons is really helpful. Thank you for this...
Oh, and then there's Angle Shooter/Line Marker. Totally didn't forget this obscure, outclassed, weak sub weapon that has little value to give.
What about toxic mist?
@@guillermocervisalmeron2209 Toxic Mist is good if you know how to use it properly. A common mistake folks make, including Chara, is that you throw it in areas where people want to move through. No. You want to through it where people want to stand in and snipe, at an enemy that's in the midst of a skirmish with a teammate, and/or at the objective (the person holding the rainmaker or the tower). Use it to suppress their backlines and support your frontlines.
@@DSmith3279 yeah but is only 5 seconds and the punishment for stay there isn't good like point sensor, also with the movement mechanics they need to rework the thing because it's doesn't work
Holding down the Curling bomb will not only decrease its distance, but also increase its blast radius. It's great when you're on a ledge above your enemies.
I find it hilarious that the tip for mist is to not use it that often.
another tip for curling bomb: if you aim fully upwards and jump at the same time, you can actually toss a curling bomb up onto ledges that are normally inaccessible. a good example is inkblot art academy; instead of taking the left ramp from mid to enemy ground, you can hide underneath the enemy ground's ledge and toss fully charged curling bombs up onto it for quick, safe ambushes. ive gotten more kills with curling bomb this way than any other way.
Great video chara I actually didn't know if your near to a beakon it will show your location to the person who placed it that will help a lot
A tip for squid beacon users that I love:
Place it in the most inconspicuous places ever. Why? Because enemies may ignore or not even notice it and just allow you to sneak up on them. I would know maining dapple dualies. Because your enemies are so focused on the battle in front of them they don't notice the little things like your beacon. It's especially effective near your enemy's base in a spot like a corner or place you wouldn't usually look. I got a double kill from sneaking up on my enemies who didn't even know I was there.
I remember seeing someone using angle shooter as a weapon and having full sub weapon based gear and just killing people from far away with ANGLE SHOOTER
Content like this, and tier lists are so amazing. Your list content is incredible!
Tip for toxic mist, it can combo with some specials, mainly killer wail. If you activate the special and throw the mist at a bunch of enemies in one location, typically in a fight or damaged, you have a high chance of taking out one or two of them and gaining the upper hand.
Curling bomb tip: Partial cooking. Or just practice cooking a lot in the lobby. Cook off of ledges. Throw bomb onto short ledges. Become the "let him cook" meme.
Also curling bomb is super expensive for some reason, so be mindful of that. LDE is kinda crucial for it if you wanna get anywhere close to spammy, but that's the case for everything tbh.
“I like torpedo so I’ll give 3 tips for this one” yeah here’s some k-rapid main bias right here lol. Keep up the great work Chara!
I still think that line maker should be remade into a mobility sub, while doubling as a location tool for enemies that pass through it.
It can be thrown to give it's user and it's users teammates an ink line, like from splat 1. Additionally, you can hold it to increase it's range. At base it would be a little less than a squiffer, and when held, it could be somewhere in-between splaterscope and e-liter.
If you mean make the line marker swimmable, the main issue I see with that is getting into crazy out-of-bounds areas that are impossible for the enemy to reach you and take you down like with the Spider-Squid special. Only worse because there wouldn't be anything to recall you back
@@dumpy8312 This is true. Invisible barriers can fix most out of bounds issues I feel like. The recall back issue can be alleviated by only giving it to things, at maximum, splatershot pro range.
The purpose is to make it a flanking sub. On medium and short range weapons that allow them to take unconventional paths towards backlines, and if you change it again so it doesn't bounce off walls, then you are forced to reveal yourself right be for you throw the sub, which gives who you're throwing it at extra time to react.
And perhaps lastly, only the user can ride the line, so chargers can't get to great spots.
if the enemy team has a scope weapon and you have autobomb throw them behind those weapons frequently. Also remember to use suction bombs against splash walls for many easy splats on unsuspecting 52's and squeezers
6:45 Another tip against squid beacons!! ALL players can see the on the map at all times, even if your on the enemy team! If your fighting a beacon weapon, check the map often to know where they’ve placed them!
Love your tips!
Keep em coming🙂👍🏻
Have a tip for the sprinkler put it up high, it drives people crazy when they can't find it😅
Good luck in today’s tournament Chara!
"the damage it does isn't that bad"
35 damage angle shooter is real and it can hurt you
Generally, line marker could be used as a back line poking tool, say a Jet v an E-litre.
E-litre outranges most subs weapon expect line marker. If your team is in the middle of a fight and there's a strong backliner that's supressing them, you could throw a few markers out to not only force them to relocate but also reveal their location.
It's difficult getting the snipes with marker but once you get good at hitting the directs then it becomes a menace to the enemy team, kinda like brush in a way.
Awesome series !
Really good video!
one tip for curling bomb use, Charge it a little bit and throw it to choke points on the map; you will get a bigger explosion radious than without charged and you may get splats like that.
Also, you can charge it for like a fraction of a second and then throw it forwards towards a flank of where you are moving towards to, so it gets you some kind of protection.
Probably my tips doesn't apply to a pro level, but for casual play, it is just a really fun sub weapon.
4th tip for torpedo (bcz i also like it):
Torpedo has a jingle when it detects someone so if you're pushing for the basket in clam blitz, throw the torpedo so your braindead team doesnt get completely obliterated by the enemy team in a timespan of 2 seconds.
I would've thought at least CHARA would know how to skip line marker. NO, you do NOT want to throw line marker parallel to the ground in most circumstaces. You want to skip it on the ground most of the time so you have a better chance of hitting your shots. The splatoon devs specifically made the deflection angle when hitting the ground shallower so that you don't have to worry about your vertical aim when trying to combo your line marker shots. You can literally aim at your feet and still hit your opponent if you are horizontally aligned and this works at line markers maximum range. Also like burst bomb, it's really good at helping your teammates from a distance. I've seen so many pro players suggest throwing it straight even though skipping it is much, MUCH more effective.
Personally for sprinklers, I like to put them at high places that are in open areas. That way it turfs the area and is hard to shoot at. Bonus points if you find a spot where there's enemy traffic and the keep getting rained on by sprinkler
I am not that good at the game but I would say as a tip for sprinkler is to not just trow it on the ground I personally only use it on walls an celling as that is more difficult to take out and can give you or you're teammates time to get git of a enemy player who is focus on the sprinkler
Generally as a heavy sprinkle user, One of the last places I put the sprinkler is on the ground. the game for me has become all about finding the most creative and disruptive places to stick em. do recon and try sticking them to things just to see what they can stick to. one of my favorites is onto the light up part of the lamp post on that bridgy stage. it'll make it into a shower. f they aim up to try to shoot it they are not looking at anything else really.
Another sprinkler tip: if you smack it on the tower's, well, tower, it'll paint the platform immediately.
The background super Mario galaxy 2 music😍
*gives torpedo three tips, gets to mist*"....just dont use it." lmaoo
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS VIDEO
Next: one tip on Every map (maybe in every mode/ with every role)
I hope they bring back burst bomb bamboozler but also angle shooter would work pretty well with it. Ink wall bamboozler is still my favorite though
I’m a big fan of sprinkler and one of the best things to do is put high up behind a wall so that it controls the corridor behind it. Chokes the area, deals chip damage, and is more difficult to destroy making it distract enemies longer
As a new player, I am so happy that there's a content creator who makes these tips videos so we can understand how to fight better easier.
I do have a question, though not about sub weapons, how do you aim the trizooka and use it better and actually hit things? cause i have a hard time aiming it under the pressure of the movement speed decrease, enemy fire, and the time limit of it being active?
Tip for fighting splash wall: This is well known, but bombs that hit a splash wall will explode immediately
At 4:30 to 4:33 about toxic mist, that's all you gotta say on that... it feels weirdly place for tri-slosher since it's more of a rush / slayer weapon and not a defender type that holds down the line.
For curling not treating it like bomb can be bad when used right, what I mean by this is weapons that struggle at keeping multiple enemies away, mainly sploosh, can use curling bomb as a wall of sort, not for protecting but by for walling out the opponent’s movment, often times a well placed curling can surprise a player, please please please do not be afraid to throw a charged curling if need be. Also, remember, try charging a curling in a safe spot, or away from enemy range
For curling bomb, i think it is a bit better when you've learn how to time it and aim with it by holding it a few time, i personnaly get some kills with it outside superjump situation
Another tip for angle shooter, if u look straight down at the ground and throw it, it woun't bounce all the way up in the sky, it shoots it almost parallel to the ground, so its super easy to hit people far from u if theyre on flat ground. so u dont always necessarily have to aim it like a charger, unless theyre on a grate or a ledge or a ramp, bcs if it hits the ground in front of them it will bounce parallel to the ground and likely hit them, so its much easier to hit players if u only have to aim left and right and not up and down.
Love the use of Super Mario Galaxy soundtrack!
6:58 lmao the slow turn
I enjoyed our match in the tournament... Extremely tough match but I loved it.
I'd like to ask, could I have some critiques about how I played Splatana Stamper, I feel I did pretty well during our scorch gorge match but not as much on wahoo, especially considering my kills... I'm aiming to improve for the future and would love some tips.
Against crab ... Oh wait
Crab isnt a sub 💀
The days we thought crab was a turrent sub
fantastic video
You can also tank the bombs with squid roll. If you think you won't make it out of the bomb's range, just squid roll backwards towards the bomb, instead.
I have found throwing mist at walls is a good way to shut it down, sincd the person behind is likely already low on ink from tossing it
I have a tip for line marker:
It can come out like the first frame of super jump, very useful for marking camping enemies
My favorite way to deal with being marked is to shove myself in a spot that gives me good survivability, whilst also being somewhere the enemy would want to go after me. Bonus points if the spot is weak for most weapons but strong for the specific weapon I'm playing. Line marker would probably be an nice charger/splatling counter-play option if it two shoted but then... is that too much power? (no; also make direct hits give more time for marking)
You really just told everyone to throw more torpedoes at us backline players smh
I feel like tips for Squid Beakons vary greatly depending on whether you're using Dapples or Tenta Brella, since they both want to use them in different ways; the tips you've presented are good for Dapples because of their high mobility, but I think Tenta Brella serves a better purpose as an anchor, staying alive and keeping your beakons alive and behind cover so that your teammates can get back into the action much more quickly. This of course assumes you're running sub power up, which for beakons, essentially act as quick super jump for anyone who jumps to them, including yourself.
I once got the final hit of a booyah cancel with angle shooter. Never getting that clip again but it sure was funny.
Tip for Line Marker: Call it the Angler. No, it doesn't make the weapon better or anything, but that's what it should've been called, dammit!
also remember that fizzy bomb will get stuck behind walls and ledges, it's something I've seen people struggle with on undertow
“my advice for toxic mist is to not use toxic mist”
yup sounds about right
tip against every lethal bomb:
Always have the mindset that "The explosion is always bigger than you think it is" to stay safe
For wall, you have to learn how to bounce it of walls and corners. This allows you to escape from stupid situations when someone's rushing you down because it decreases the travel distance of the wall before touching the ground. This allows for some stupid and annoying plays where you're stuck on a corner and you bounce you're wall of the corner to be fully protected form any side which allows you to be very annoying, charge your special fast and basically be an invincible nuisance. People that were there in S1 would remember that in port mackerel splat zones... (gosh I hated 52 gals and cherrys in this map).
Against wall, keep in mind that throwing a wall requires a lot of ink and the wall isn't active for a while when the opponent presses the "wall" button. Furthermore, the wall travels a long distance so surprising a wall user will make it impossible for him to use his wall effectively, if he isn't in a corner, in which case he could get away with it by flicking hard fast. Keep in mind too that bombs explode instantly when touching the wall so if the opponent isn't behind his wall, you can bomb him. This happens a lot when the opponent realizes that he doesn't have enough range and so he starts walking forward, without realizing that he's on the wrong side of the wall.
Hey Chara, I’m making a build for a Stamper and I’m deciding whether to put Onject Shredder or Stealth Jump. Which one do you think is better?😅
I’m not chara, but I recommend make two builds, one with object shredder and one with stealth jump
I personally would go for stealth jump because it already shreds through hp specials and I don’t want someone to plant a bomb on my super jump but that extra dmg is kinda nice for stamper so it doesn’t really matter that much.
Ah torpedo, or as I like to call it, the "annoy the heck out of the charger/long-range weapon" sub. Seriously, I started playing CJr and I spent most of a match just yeeting torpedoes at the charger. Burst bombs work well too in a pinch. And I also try and take down any torpedo lobbed at my team, even if it's not specifically at me 😁
"shot down torpedoes for your team mates"
look, if one of my team mates is using a charger, they clearly want a single player game, i let them suffer.
Poor angle shooter. Such a good idea on paper. I guess it was pretty for Slosher deco tho with it being more close and less likely to miss.
I had a hilarious clip with the sprinkler tip.
I was super jumping in as a Dynamo and saw a splattershot camping my market with no other players around. (My teammate died)
As I land i drop a sprinkler at my feet then flick, and the sprinkler tanks enough damage that I get the kill and survive.
I'm surprised Chara didn't mention the fact that you can throw Sprinklers.... *Everywhere.* You can throw them on the walls, on the poles, upside down under the grate bridges, even the inflatables at times [like the one in the middle of the Mako Mart splat zone]. Get creative, test how far you can toss your sprinkler to get the best out of it without worrying about it immediately getting popped out of existence. Most weapons won't be able to reach it if it's higher up anyway.
Another tip for this thing is to _not_ let it just sit in one spot for too long. You'll want to move this thing around a good amount, as it can put a good amount of paint between you and your enemy and distract or confuse them for a few seconds if it's smartly placed. [this last part doesn't always work but it's still worth mentioning that it can and has happened for me more often than not. survivability+1.]
Happy sprinkling everybody. /)
Some of yall need to realize that line marker actually helps with aim tracking on pro and jet
I really want to see a for and against tips for specials now! (I need help with crab tank😅)
"my tip for toxic mist: DONT USE IT its a waste of ink"
this really shows how bad toxic mist is ☠
"my advice for toxic mist is to not use it" is just hilarious
A good way to counter line marker is to let your opponent use it as they lose ink and it does barely anything because it’s still pretty bad
Thank you 🙏
I didnt know you could stop torpedos until this video.
for solo queue use you team mates becons i swear no one ever looks for them, besides use if they have sub up that gives you super jump up
dang squidkids kickin it old school
2:52
One winged angel starts playing.
Against line marker, try to start a squid party so the user doesn’t feel so bad about their weapon having a 2/3 full kit.
inkmine can also be destroy, so always be mindful of those position that the enemy might place their mine. Paint those area or just use bomb to destroy them.
Also if you're playing aggressive with ink mines, try to put one down whenever you think you might get shot.
Favorite activity with me and my friend is just bullying chargers by throwing a ton of angle shooters at them
I recommend doing Inner Agent 3 if you want practice against Autobombs lol
i main splat roller with the sub weapon being curling bomb, i use it mostly for mobility but once in awhile i get unexpected kills that even surprise me lol
Tip against Beakons: Don't bother destroying them. You're just wasting your ink on something that the enemy team will never use.
Tip for Beakons: Don't bother using them. You're just wasting your ink on something your team will never use.
P.S. I STACK SUB POWER UP JUST FOR YOU. PLEASE USE MY BEAKONS!
Sincerely,
A Dapple Dualies main
Tip for toxic mist: Don’t use it :)
Hey ProChara, should I have motion controls on? I've been playing since the original game but splatoon 3's feels weirder for me and I often find my hands in a horrible position. Youre help would be very appreciated
The tip of 'throw torpedo at charger players'.. as an eliter main who has to deal with torpedo after torpedo to the face from splatanas pls don't do that in casual play😭 you can throw one to deter a charger from getting you but do not stand in the same spot and throw 100 hoping one will actually land
Tip against Suction: Parry it. It’s very slow.
Tip for Sprinkler! Don't :D