yes very good but you should evis before secret tech for the 8% shadow dam from deeper daggers since the tech shadows hit harder than the physical portion more min maxing ofc
Thanks for the guide Xvic I don't know if you saw the next incoming nerfs to subtlety and assa, you can see them on wowhead or in this message: assassination Kingsbane damage reduced by 15%. Blindside effect chance reduced to 15% (was 20%) and 30% against low-health targets (was 40%). Subtlety Shadow Blades extra Shadow damage reduced to 15% (base 20%) in PvP combat Thief’s Bargain (PvP Talent) cooldown reduction value reduced to 20% (was 33%) I don't think the nerf to shadow blades is very noticeable, it's only 5%, but Thief's Bargain is getting worse with every change they make to it. I don't know if it's still worth losing damage in exchange for a CDR 13% lower than the current one This is probably the first of many nerfs to the rogue, until the class is again as limited and useless as in season 2. At least the demon hunter has been nerfed again, but they have buffed unholy and fury warrior, maybe we will see more these two specs soon.
They do it every week so I'm not surprised about it there best be plenty of dh bm and dk nerfs imagine if they did there job correctly and didint pay 12$ a hour for someone to work on the game
Rupture is actually really good dmg, espcially as the last global before dance falls because of macbre. If you maintain ruptures its quite a bit of damage. The only trade off is not being able to gouge into goes.
Yeah usually keep uptime on it as much as u can but it can also bite you in the ass when you trying to kidney sap or kidney fear sap some situations where it's not good but overall it's solid for goes just do it when you plan on going heals mostly
this guide is awesome thank you for including all the things for new players. have you ever thought about making a guide for sub or rogue for new players to kidna get the new players to understand more that would be great. but keep p the great work big sub and like form me
Hmm well mine are basically beginners level if u went a step up ud be adding blind macros sap macros and stuff like that but there's a few things I could maybe add
like energy management really struggling with that , when to use symbols or dance or when to use them together little things like that would be awesome but loving the videos tho im new to wow @@xvic2234
I have tried both builds now and still prefer pikas. This build is perhaps slightly more consistent and easier to set up but overall you just hit harder when playing flag, goremaw rotten with no sepsis.
lmao thanks for this video. I think a lot of the "top" rogue streamers are kind of purposely elitist with their advice. You wouldn't say it this way, which i appreciate but i will lol. When Pikaboo goes through explaining his rotation at 1000mph just to show off how cool he is, i cringe every time. Also yeah, I'm glad you mentioned how illogical it is deciding how good a build is by watching a multi r1 rogue demolish noobs at 1.4cr without even trying. Like duhh
My only question for this is why dont you use blades before the first cheapshot to get instantly full cp? Then you can cs-evis-sepsis-evis-cs. Its one extra eviscerate this way.
That can probably work out aswell just depends on the situation if u blades before u stun they'll have a second before u stun them I usually don't do that cause unless ur literally macroing it down your reaction time is gonna be like 1 seconds behind by before u stun and they'll end up just pre bearing or using people are really trying hard to win so u can do it but it's most likely just gonna bite u in the ass once u face someone that has a fast reaction time unless it's macrod or ur literally clicking it at the same time but good point
I wanna buy my second weapon today. I didn't get heilbloom cudgel like I should have. Question is do I get verdant gladiator dagger for off hand or do I get the verdant gladiator fist weapon.
1:50 I think its more you being lazy and not us sweaty, no reason to have honor dagger when you get one from throphy of strife that is 486pvp ilvl... if you missed some of the throphy you can buy it with honor as catch up mechanic.
Pretty sure we got a few nerfs incoming thus Tuesday sucks that blizzard cant just make us good for more then a week literally switching out build every 3 days cause blizzards incopitant asf
Just a fyi these builds change literally every single week considering blizzard can't spend the money to there employees they do a half ass job and end up getting nerfed every single week changing our build so be prepared to have a new build Tuesday every Tuesday
Good point however it's still a high chance of u auto attacking if ur in mid auto attack it'll do it before u gauge and break it so in general yeah u probably don't but if your mid attack it will break
If u upgrade it to epic I'm pretty sure only the first epic rank will benefit arena however if u upgrade over that I'm pretty sure it's just for world and pve
Looks whack ngl... how do you feel like rogues are atm? I already felt like conditions had to be perfect in order to get a kill how do u feel like it is now?
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Do these guides help you?
yes very good but you should evis before secret tech for the 8% shadow dam from deeper daggers since the tech shadows hit harder than the physical portion more min maxing ofc
Does sub only use 2 set?
You listened to us old people! Thank you, so much. What I like to do is get paper and pen and write things down step by step. This was great man.
Always comes by checkin out your stuff to get updated on my alt rogue. Thanks alot.
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Thanks for the guide Xvic
I don't know if you saw the next incoming nerfs to subtlety and assa, you can see them on wowhead or in this message:
assassination
Kingsbane damage reduced by 15%.
Blindside effect chance reduced to 15% (was 20%) and 30% against low-health targets (was 40%).
Subtlety
Shadow Blades extra Shadow damage reduced to 15% (base 20%) in PvP combat
Thief’s Bargain (PvP Talent) cooldown reduction value reduced to 20% (was 33%)
I don't think the nerf to shadow blades is very noticeable, it's only 5%, but Thief's Bargain is getting worse with every change they make to it. I don't know if it's still worth losing damage in exchange for a CDR 13% lower than the current one
This is probably the first of many nerfs to the rogue, until the class is again as limited and useless as in season 2. At least the demon hunter has been nerfed again, but they have buffed unholy and fury warrior, maybe we will see more these two specs soon.
They do it every week so I'm not surprised about it there best be plenty of dh bm and dk nerfs imagine if they did there job correctly and didint pay 12$ a hour for someone to work on the game
@@xvic223412 dollar an hour in san Fransisco? Their employees live in the parking garage or what
thx bro for your guide it's very helpful for a beginner
Thank you for the guide!
Rupture is actually really good dmg, espcially as the last global before dance falls because of macbre. If you maintain ruptures its quite a bit of damage. The only trade off is not being able to gouge into goes.
Yeah usually keep uptime on it as much as u can but it can also bite you in the ass when you trying to kidney sap or kidney fear sap some situations where it's not good but overall it's solid for goes just do it when you plan on going heals mostly
Which is mainly resto druids sense you kinda have to go druid to win
Nice guide, and super simple cheers!
this guide is awesome thank you for including all the things for new players. have you ever thought about making a guide for sub or rogue for new players to kidna get the new players to understand more that would be great. but keep p the great work big sub and like form me
Hmm well mine are basically beginners level if u went a step up ud be adding blind macros sap macros and stuff like that but there's a few things I could maybe add
like energy management really struggling with that , when to use symbols or dance or when to use them together little things like that would be awesome but loving the videos tho im new to wow @@xvic2234
Thank u for making these :)
I have tried both builds now and still prefer pikas. This build is perhaps slightly more consistent and easier to set up but overall you just hit harder when playing flag, goremaw rotten with no sepsis.
I'll try it out
I don't know why but I'm struggling so hard to do the burst rotation while not gapping kidney and cheap. I'm always just a tiny bit off everytime.
Thanks for the guide, keep up the great content!!
lmao thanks for this video. I think a lot of the "top" rogue streamers are kind of purposely elitist with their advice. You wouldn't say it this way, which i appreciate but i will lol. When Pikaboo goes through explaining his rotation at 1000mph just to show off how cool he is, i cringe every time.
Also yeah, I'm glad you mentioned how illogical it is deciding how good a build is by watching a multi r1 rogue demolish noobs at 1.4cr without even trying. Like duhh
Try flag build and tell us which one u thinks is better in different scenarios pls!
rn id say flag is better for carries and low rated the main build I use is def better for overall
My only question for this is why dont you use blades before the first cheapshot to get instantly full cp? Then you can cs-evis-sepsis-evis-cs. Its one extra eviscerate this way.
That can probably work out aswell just depends on the situation if u blades before u stun they'll have a second before u stun them I usually don't do that cause unless ur literally macroing it down your reaction time is gonna be like 1 seconds behind by before u stun and they'll end up just pre bearing or using people are really trying hard to win so u can do it but it's most likely just gonna bite u in the ass once u face someone that has a fast reaction time unless it's macrod or ur literally clicking it at the same time but good point
I wanna buy my second weapon today. I didn't get heilbloom cudgel like I should have. Question is do I get verdant gladiator dagger for off hand or do I get the verdant gladiator fist weapon.
id get both daggers tbh crit vers
you sound straight outa southpark
I tune my voice alot so its def like hearing someone over the phone then u hear them in person and are like are these rly the same ppl :D
1:50 I think its more you being lazy and not us sweaty, no reason to have honor dagger when you get one from throphy of strife that is 486pvp ilvl... if you missed some of the throphy you can buy it with honor as catch up mechanic.
Isnt imorphnet bannable. is that the addon that changes your mogs to look like stuff u dont got yet?
Does the gear upgrade have any benefits in rated pvp ? I mean the bloody coin item level upgrade from crests, not the weekly spark one.
Yes the first epic upgrade does upgrade for pvp after that tho it's only pve upgrade
After the assassin nerfs is this gonna be the better spec for raiding? I never seen anyone play sub this season yet.
Pretty sure we got a few nerfs incoming thus Tuesday sucks that blizzard cant just make us good for more then a week literally switching out build every 3 days cause blizzards incopitant asf
would you use the conquest axe or both daggers?
both daggers
Just a fyi these builds change literally every single week considering blizzard can't spend the money to there employees they do a half ass job and end up getting nerfed every single week changing our build so be prepared to have a new build Tuesday every Tuesday
Small nerfs/buffs every week is what you want as player instead of gutting a spec randomly mid season.
Black Powder worth using?
nah its trash
You don't need a macro to stop autoattacking after gauge, its on default lmao
Good point however it's still a high chance of u auto attacking if ur in mid auto attack it'll do it before u gauge and break it so in general yeah u probably don't but if your mid attack it will break
upgrading the gear only gives benefits in world pvp or am i mistaken?
If u upgrade it to epic I'm pretty sure only the first epic rank will benefit arena however if u upgrade over that I'm pretty sure it's just for world and pve
bro where i can find the macros?
description now if you are wanting to see the full shadow dance macro check out my new video coming out today updated guide
The word is getting smurfed
Looks whack ngl...
how do you feel like rogues are atm?
I already felt like conditions had to be perfect in order to get a kill how do u feel like it is now?
There in a pretty decent state obviously there not a dk dh or bm hunter but at least there viable
The word is smurfing!
Thanks but I still think sepsis build is trash
The sub rogue nerf will make this build trash this coming Tuesday so yeah it will be
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@@xvic2234 wym by sub rogue nerf, we didnt got nerfed and we wont?
@@ardaaba2883 it did just wasent a big one it was on blades and the pvp talent
oh i see. black powder will be buffed soon probs, it's dmg is so untuned out of dance
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11:45 youre welcome
smurfing is the word youre looking for i think
yeah thats exactly
Literally
no 1 vs 1 make pvp so annoying
ffs stop clicking. You're talking all over the place