The Descent (2005) REVIEW
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- James and Mike discuss The Descent, a horror film set underground.
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that scene when the one woman's body is getting eaten and the other woman watching silently through the night vision. Absolutely terrifying.
And she can't retch or they'll hear her, it's great stuff.
You guys saw the EU version. The ending of the US and EU version are the same, except that the US version cut the last 30ish seconds. After the ghost jumpscare the US version cuts to credits, whilst the EU version implies that she is still in the cave and she is slowly losing her mind and will be stuck there untill shes dead.
Yeah. The ending is like half of the greatness of this movie. Truly.
Nope, the US version goes back to the cave too.
@@chiefqueef6502only in the unrated DVD
The ending of The Descent isn't weird at all... 10:39
She's stuck in the cave and there's no way out, so she has a pleasant memory, of her daughter, basically she has lost her mind by the end of the movie, sad but true.
yes that's how I remember it.
thats pretty much the reason I dont watch it anymore...too sad
Also you hear the creatures closing in, meaning she's pretty much dead
+mitrooper No, she got out, there's a sequel and she goes back to the cave. It's dumb don't watch it
+PimDiffy That was the American version. The real version had her still trapped in the cave, waiting for her death. When the film came to the US, they cut the final scene, and used her survival to make a sequel, without director Neill Marshall participation. I stick with the original uncut ending
The girl who stabbed the other was having an affair with the main character's husband. The woman who was stabbed revealed a necklace to the main character which proved an affair was going on. The main character wanted revenge for that.
+Intimidation I was just going to write that. They seemed to have forgot that part.
+Intimidation In the context of the desperate situation it seems so stupid to take revenge like that. It really bothered me too.
+Intimidation Yes exactly, just what I was going to say!
Her husband and Juno were having an affai, that she already suspected just before the accident happened, then Juno pissed off abroad while she was left to pick up the pieces.
+mahoney86
All that, and her husband and daughter died in an accident while returning from a tryst weekend (smart dude, take your daughter to extramarital weekend--high morals there) with Juno, and Juno was the one who tricked them all into taking a riskier path so they could all spend time together, and I think, not sure, but it was the leaving the other to die in pain that really pushed things. One almost wonders if Juno wasn't waiting for her to rebuild her life so she could swoop in again. She seems the worst sort of friend, faux-brave adventurer who shakes apart without her friends to milk off of. I almost think, had they both gotten out, Juno would try and act like everything was all cool now.
+Intimidation Thank you. This 'review' really made me wish they had watched the movie in the last 10 years.
I actually liked the conflict between the Juno and Sarah (if I am getting their names right). I believe the filmmakers knew damn well that Juno killing the other girl was an accident but played Sarah and Juno against each other to show the chaos of the situation. It is just another way that things are spiraling out of control and getting consistently worse in the cave.
I enjoy watching James' face when Mike keeps talking over him 😂
Same 😂😂😂 he can't help himself.
The European version has the ending with her in the cave remembering the birthday party while the monsters crawls around her. The US version has the ending with her escaping in the car and truck drive passed her. They did it like that because the US audience would like that she got away.
+Dystopia420 and they spawned a retarded sequel to an awesome movie -_-
+Ryan Raikoh They sure did
reminds me how how the American version of The Vanishing was changed. I always prefer the darker more realistic and ore horrifying endings in foreign films.
+Dystopia420 They just cut the last minute of the film for the American theatrical release. Not a fan of doing that. Love this film.
+Dystopia420 No it doesn't,I'm from scotland and have never seen that ending,the version we got is the one that ends with the start of the second with her getting out.
i have nothing against either of these guys, but mike is not very suited for these reviews, he gets to intense without getting to the point, let james talk more.
I think Mike has a fear of not being able to talk..
The Descent is one of my favourite movies and in my opinion the scariest movie since the dawn of the 2000's. I feel like it belongs with Horror classics like The Exorcist, The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Alien, and A Nightmare on Elm Street.
***** That's cool, It Follows is one of my favourite movies of the year and definitely one of the best Horror films of the current decade.
***** It does bother me that some people didn't care for It Follows on concept alone. Though I thought the concept was interesting and well executed. A cute throwback to '80s Horror tropes that manages to be topical in today's society.
I also thought It Follows delivered on the scares. It's definitely one of the film's strengths. That and the eeirie atmosphere that appears very dream like.
I agree :)
+Erik Gruber See, I don't think that's the main objective of a horror movie. It's a major element, but it's stifling to say that's the "main objective," as most of the time, it may just to present a monster, or situation that is out of the ordinary, but not necessarily fantasy.
+Harley Dirk I've never understood the hype. It was a forgettable flick where the ending was unsatisfying (I hate survival stories where no one survives, cuz it feels like I wasted an hour and a half of my life, especially when nothing comes of it. Like, if there was an ancellary character that took something from this whole experience or some effect on the outside world, I'd understand, but when it's isolated like this, it feels like a waste). The "monsters" were just hairless people, and you could barely make out what was happening the entiire movie. Lack of lighting isn't inherently scary.
You guys really need to let each other finish off your sentences. Really starting to dislike how Mike is always talking over James. It's getting kind of ridiculous.
+nathninetyone Motormouth Mike
absolutely my thoughts...
I like Mikes other vids but I think James is way better at reviews and Mike really hinders him, he just interrupts and talks over him most of the time..
Jake Lm agreed
Mike's just a loud guy, my best friend is like that, it's not malicious at all, James just talks small like I do. They understand their conversational selves. I think that people who aren't the 'James' in a set of friends might not understand the dynamic of the talking over someone. I see a lot of just knowing each other enough that they don't necessarily need to hear the rest of a statement all the time.
I see an aspect of this movie as this, the main character is having a descent into madness after the tragic car accident.
Double meaning, descending into the cave and descending into madness.
Hence the title, The Descent.
Anyone?
+bbutters2 Well done for noticing the most obvious thing about the film.
I really wish you guys would've rewatched this one again before reviewing it. Lots of mistakes and lots of completely missing some plot points. You didn't mention that Juno was having an affair with Sarah's husband and that's why she stabbed her and left her to die. And I also disagree with this movie pulling a From Dusk Till Dawn. That movie did a complete 180. This movie on the other hand doesn't really change much. Yes, there's creatures now. But it's still just about them trying to get out of the cave. They were just another obstacle. Also the original ending was her waking back up inside the cave which is a brilliant ending. The American one didn't come until later when they decided to release it in America and they thought the original was too depressing. There's only one real ending to the movie so they knew EXACTLY how they were going to end it. That ending is amazing for a number of reasons. She has one last bittersweet memory of her daughter and in her catatonic state the camera pans back and you can hear the creatures slowly closing in on her as she doesn't seem to mind she's about to die because she's going to be with her daughter again. It's a harsh ending having them all die but a great one. There are NO other endings and there was only one shot by the original filmmakers. The shitty American studio is who edited the original ending. Oh and Descent 2 never happened. It is a sequel to the American ending to the film so it's one of those what if type of movies. The original ending makes it impossible for a sequel.
Also, she was half psychotic after climbing out of the pool of blood and killing all the monsters. The only thing that bothered me was why the other girl couldn't explain the killing was an accident but in her state would she even have listened? Anyway, truly horrifying ending.
I really enjoy all of these video, the whole monster madness series alway great. But this video is a mess and very frustrating in the future they really have to watch the movies right before or close to before they have the discussion.
60% of this is them just trying to remember the movie right, and getting all sorts of things wrong. And trying to figure out what each of them remembers to a point were its hard to watch and super super frustrating. Besides that I look forward to the rest of the videos. It's just unforunate this one is a such a disaster/mess. I saw it in the at cinema and remember a completely different ending. All well. Still enjoy the hell out of all these videos keep up the good work James and Mike!
yeah it takes away from the video when they spend half of it trying to remember the movie they are reviewing.
+Lothar i know I've seen at least 2 or 3 different endings.
+Meavy Hetal The american happy ed is the correct end as that's exactly where the sequel begins.
+Meavy Hetal i'm not sure but did Sarah escape from that old mine cabin before she came in the hospital? because that was the place where the old guy and the cop with his dog where looking. i think that the beginning of part 2 stil works after the european cut of part 1. that Sarah didn't escape from that hole (and found her car) but stayed in the cave. and later she escapes for real (out of the mine cabin perhaps). any way, i didn't like part 2. it's a fun creature feature and much better then ther cave. but descent 1 is still superior in every way.
+Meavy Hetal you're right :) i prefer the original. not only because it's more original but also because it doesn't force me to watch the sequel. not that it's garbage or something like the sequel to silent hill :P i just wish that descent 2 did it different but just as good in its own way like Aliens. it would be great if descent 2 (or maybe a 3th film) took place in the past where mineworkers find a hidden tunnel that leads to the crawlers. and they must survive with old equipment. now the envoriment isn't just caves but more like mine-tunnels with rails, elevators..etc. Aliens and Temple of Doom combined :P
Let me just talk over the other person constantly....
This film is amazing, it managed to make me feel absolutley terrified and claustrophobic..and at the end I was close to tears it was so upsetting to see Sarah and her daughter..when she's imagining the whole thing :(
And then the movie makers take a big steaming dump on it by making a sequel.
I predict either The Conjuring or Evil Dead (2013) will be the final review this month.
Evil Dead TV series is this Saturday.
+Intimidation That would be great
I predict an appearance from shitpickle .
Evil Dead from 2013 is one of the best remakes of all time IMO
I was really disappointed with The Conjuring, it is technically proficient but isn't a particularly good horror film.
Definitely curious to see James opinion on the Evil Dead remake since it was filmed entirely practical and used old film techniques that have been phased out that he likes.
There are only 2 versions, The US one where she gets out and it ends in the car. And the UK one where she is stuck in the cave forever.
the UK one doesn't say she didn't get out. she could have gotten out afterwords.
Michael 70z she accepts her fate because she sees her daughter. You hear the monsters approaching so there's no way she survived
The European ending is the true ending. She escapes. Cries, watches a truck drive go by, then turns to see her friends ghost. THEN wakes back up in the cave. It was considered too dark/depressing for American audiences so it was changed to the 'jump scare' ending for US release (ends when the ghost appears). The original ending was restored for the uncut DVD.
I'd urge you guys to see it again. The monsters and ending are perfect realisations of the themes. The whole experience is a metaphor for her dealing with the trauma of losing her husband and daughter in a car crash. The monsters become projections of her own internal struggle threatening to destroy her. In the end, she doesn't physically escape the cave, but in the act of discovering her friend was having an affair with her husband and taking revenge, she is able to exorcise her demons and win back her soul.
The US ending just blows and doesn't mean anything.
James barely ever gets to talk , mike just keeps talking over him
you guys should do DOG SOLDIERS , awesome movie
awesome, you mean fucking amazing
+MrJ Pmosh What? Come on dude that's gross.
+MrJ Pmosh Hell yeah! It's definitely one of my top3 movies ever
+MrJ Pmosh Yep...we need Spoon :3
+MrJ Pmosh Ginger Snaps is also pretty cool in a different way, but yeah Dog Soldiers. AWESOME!!!
She attacked the other girl because her husband was cheating on her with the other girl.
+Undead Dead Guy , this. I'm surprised that this got past them.
Usually like these conversational reviews, but James and Mike totally missed a lot of key points. The reason why they were all so upset with the one chick was because the film indicated that she was having an affair with the main character's husband before he died and that he wrecked the car because he wasn't paying attention to the road because he was looking at her.
This video really pisses me off because most of the issues are from having seen the film a YEAR ago, and just reviewing it from memory
You don't remember half of the movie and you didn't understand the other half - why bother making a review?
You make more sense than them.
I know right!
My thoughts exactly !!
Right? I mean, the least you could do is rewatch it before startin' to "debate" xd
Alfred Hitchcock's Vertigo was a great movie with the fear of heights element
This is personally one of my favorite horror films, especially the haunting score reminiscent of "John Carpenter's The Thing". A few things ...1) The catalyst for the women to go spelunking was to reconnect with each other, especially after the one lady lost her husband and child. 2) They all began to turn on the one woman because she was reckless, leading the group into an unexplored cave instead of the know, touristy one. And by the end they were losing their minds and turning on each other. 3) The ending is pretty clear, especially the "dream sequence " of her getting out of the cave, since it looked like she was climbing a stair of bones to way out. And when she wakes up still in the cave, it's a sense of hopelessness and dread when she focuses on a pleasant image of her daughter and the birthday cake, succumbing to her insanity. You can even hear the creatures closing in as the camera pulls away, knowing that her fate is sealed.
You know what's bullshit? Alternate endings on "footage" movies.
+PixelJoe There is, there's a European and US one.
*Spoilers*
In the US one the last survivor escapes the cave, but in the 'real' ending, the escape was a hallucination.
PixelJoe It's not a footage movie either. I'm talking about those movies like Cloverfield and Paranormal Activity. Making alternate endings to those types makes no sense at all. They are supposed to be like "we found this video camera from the rubble after the incident", but alternate endings is like "we also appreciate that the person who filmed the footage died several times so we can make more content on the blue ray release".
I'm glad Mike got the sub-humans down.
+Kinglier Idk, I think it requires another video.
+Kinglier That's racist. They're People Of Dirt and they're just the same as you and me!
+vaporfarts No,they're thugs who always vote for democrats!
+Celso Junior xD
"lets review a movie we barely remember"
4 for effort guys, you should have rewatched before you reviewed it.
The old monster madness was better when it was just James talking over clips of the movie
Do The Visit, best hor- well, Creepy movie this year IMO.
The way Mike was describing the monsters reminded me of The Allegory of the Cave
It's not often that you hear a reference to Plato in a TH-cam comment. But yes people who don't appreciate philosophy are sub-human in their intellectual capacity.
no, that's not what I said. I read every day, including philosophy. Meditations is one of my fave books. I just hate arrogant cunts
+Jack Walsh People who claim philosophy is important or clever, are pretentious bastards.
it can be clever but is rarely important as religion has proven.
Lol it's not their fault some people don't appreciate philosophy but that doesn't make them subhuman
Maybe if yall payed attention to the beginning you would understand why Sarah is out for Juno
I think you too should write down some notes so you both can have equal time talking.
I think neither of them understood that amazing movie, including the revenge killing and the end.
Oh my god, Mike has to shut it once in a while.
Fuck Mike.
The Futon bed frame, just noticed it, pretty creative :)
James and Mike, please watch the movie again would you? You missed the entire part about the affair, that's why a lot of it didn't make sense to you.
I loved how many elements were in this film. You have the basic friendship between the girls, adventure of cave diving, the whole conflict between the main character and Juno for having an affair with her husband, the suffocation effect, then obviously the monsters. Betrayal also between the characters. Great flick.
The film The Cave came out 22 days after this was released. It shared a similar premise except the creatures down there were winged, had the ability to fly. Except when attacked by these creatures if you were to survive, you became infected and would turn into one of them. Definitely worth a single watch!
Will there be any asian horror movies reviewed here? I like them a lot. Noroi, The Tale of Two Sisters, House
+Bayu Nuratmaja The Tale of Two Sisters is astoundingly excellent. House (1977) is a certifiable classic. I dig your taste in films. I've yet to see Noroi so I guess I better get on that.
+b2manatees Noroi's pretty good.
Actually Mike reviewed House, I guess I forgot. Sorry Mike
+tl;dr Christ that's a common Chinese zombie trope called Jiangshi
+Bayu Nuratmaja Is tale of two sisters about the twins and one believes she is the mother and their is no twin sister???? IKR a great description to go by lol it was released on the tartan series its korean
Honestly, this video should probably be deleted. It's like a Jimmy Kimmel skit of people describing something they've never seen. You're misleading people regarding one of the best modern horror films. I've been a cinemassacre follower for years, but this is disappointing.
How dare they not agree with your opinions
BigRig Joe Dude, the reviewers here just totally forgot about the film! It's an objective fact, not opinion.
I love the married man smile from James after the "lots of hot chicks" comment from Mike.
"You got that"
The monsters in this movie reminded me of H. P. Lovecraft's "The Beast in the Cave." The Wikipedia article for this film also confirms Mike's theory about the monsters.
Keep Mike away from MM. He's literally added nothing to these videos beyond stupid, unfunny comments and constantly trying to talk over the person we actually came here to see.
I just remember waaaay back when, when Mike used to be so shy in front of the camera. Look at you now man. Way-ta-go! :)
I think James and Mike kinda missed the point of the movie. From what I remember, the whole point was to make people wonder whether the monsters were real or caused by claustrophobia and descent into insanity. I always thought that was rather obvious. Even the name of the movie hints at that. The different endings are there so you can draw different conclusions, and choose which one you prefer. It's one of those movies where you need to read between the lines to enjoy it. If you start taking everything the movie shows literally, like Mike obviously did, it gets ruined.
Now I like a concept like that, it leaves the imagination up to the viewer, HOWEVER you can't tell me that it's all in their heads when they all see the same creatures, if these were isolated attacks then sure I could buy it, but when the whole group is attacked then there's no way they all imagined the same thing
Exactly! There is no way that they all hallucinate the same monsters, looking the same way, all at the same time.
Kallo Skull, Exactly. The movie was about the main character's descent into insanity. Remember the part just before they climb down into the cave, the character leaves her prescription behind. The camera focuses in on it to show the audience.
the monsters were definitely real. as confirmed by the sequel
It starts a little slow? So a car crash where the husband and young daughter are horrifically killed? Didn't even get a mention? lol
When Mike kept talking about "Frozen" and said it could happen, I was like "No, it can't! That's a kids Disney movie! lol I didn't know he was talking about a different movie.
People could potentially possibly maybe shoot freeze rays from their hands.
The novel was amazing and completely different.
+Kenshar1984 So many people loved this movie aside from those that read the book! The novel was fantastic
+Kenshar1984 I didn't eben know that there was a novel. Thanks I will check it out.
Kesyabasturd The title is the same as the movie and it was written by Jeff Long in 1999
Aslak Hauglid to me it's obvious that the inspiration for the movie came from the book.
+Kenshar1984 The book is fantastic, but not the basis for this movie. (which is also great)
Lovecraft did a story about devolved subhumans living in a cave.
I was surprised how good this movie was. It's an instant classic
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+Nick Gilberson +1
DONT LET IT IN
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+Nick Gilberson This movie was only scary to those who haven't yet figured out that all children are always terrible.
Way overrated
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That perfect AVGN face when Mike talks about the truck and James had no idea. haha! Excellent.
"it been awhile since I saw it" jesus watch a movie before reviewing it don't just try to review something by memory.
Holy shit! It's almost Halloween! We're going to get Ash vs Evil Dead AND a new AVGN episode!!! Hopefully, lol.
Tbh, Mike sometimes frustrates me, as he is always cutting out james, speaks really fast and even louder when James is not pausing. It's at the point where you feel like being in a full classroom when there's only 2 people talking
"Let's review a movie we remember nothing about."
There's a Spanish horror film called La Cueva, it's also about people getting trapped in a cave. But it's got no monsters or any supernatural elements whatsoever, it's all about people going insane and showing their true nature and stuff. It's pretty low budget but extremely well filmed, you guys should check it.
+Cinemassacre To clarify the angst between Juno and Sarah: (Spoilers ahaed) In the beginning, The story opens on a rafting trip somewhere in possibly England. (Car in accident scene is Right-hand Drive) Setting up the hint that Juno, and Sara's husband, Paul, could be more than friendly.. The car accident where Sarah is the sole survivor, happens after that. Sarah and Paul have a saying "Love Each Day" >>> Skip forward.. One year later, In the Appalachians in the U.S., Juno, (the "Guide") tells the group that they are going to Borham caverns, when in fact she takes then to an unexplored cave system. >>> The cave in occurs, and They take comfort in the "flight plan" that was filed by one of the the team. Juno reveals that they are NOT in Borham caverns, but instead this new cave system, and that there will be no help coming because the "Flight Plan" was wrongly filed. This sets up the tension and mistrust between Juno and the rest of the team . >> After one of the appearances by the sub-terrestrials, Juno is quite spooked. Beth inadvertently comes up behind Juno, and Juno reacts by swinging her pick thinking that Beth is another sub-terrestrial. The pick goes fully into Beth's neck. Beth grasps At Juno, pulling off Juno's necklace which has a charm on it. Juno turns away in shock or shame, leaving Beth to die. >>> Later, After more of the team are killed, Sarah finds Beth in the S.T.'s food cache, still clinging to life. Beth says It was Juno. who did this to her, and pleads with Sarah to killer her. She doesn't want to experience being eaten alive. But before she dies, She gives Sarah the charm that she snatched from Juno. Sarah looks it over, and inscribed on it is "Love Each Day" Beth chokes out an apology for not telling Sarah of the affair, between Juno, and Paul. Sarah grants Beth's dying wish with a large rock to the head. >>> Two left.. Sarah, and Juno. Who have been separated. The run into each other after Sarah has been very well traumatized after several run-ins by the S.T.'s. Sarah "gets even" by revealing the charm, and the fact that she now knows of the affair. and then slicing Juno's leg, and crippling her with a pick. Now leaving Juno to die. >>> Sarah finds the exit, escapes, drives off In Juno's Bronco-II And stops along the road to have a cry. She hallucinates Juno's bloody form in the passenger seat. BAM.. She wakes in the cave, with the memory of her daughter and the cake.. Fade, End.. There was a sequel.......
James and Mike, I love you guys but I think you should rewatch the movies before you review them. I just didn't understand how you guys thought the ending was confusing. Either way, keep up the great work and keep being the most likable people on the internets :)
I think the monsters in the movie are hallucinations.
At least, according to IMDB, the director suggested that idea and said a cutscene implying it was removed.
The woman (whom husband and daughter died) was descending into madness seeing the monsters.
She takes pills, she sees her dead daughter, in the original ending she dreamed the escape, etc.
I very much agree with your review!
The movie is well executed to create the feeling of claustrophobia. The monsters are....there. It's not what makes it bad in my book.
The story is (as in many horror movies) a sequence of bad decisions. I bet no climber or cave explorer would go in there with half experienced people, use ancient equipment sticking in a wall, etc.
For the "Juno is the..."-part. The conclusion is so bad! I imagined they make it to the exit and Sarah had to help Juno up but maybe lets her die for what she did. But the vengeful killing? It's like they didn't know where to go or the end of budget.
We have "The descent 2" but didn't want to watch, because part 1 was so stupid....
YES! I've been waiting for them to review this. This movie is my favorite horror film of all time.
Right on man, I love this movie.
I felt the same way about how they ended this and 'It Follows.' Both were great concepts that sort of fell apart in the third act. Someone once said that telling a good story is easy, but ending it is what's hard.
love u guys, love cinemassacre. but I think u guys should watch the movie right before u review it, so it's fresh in your mind.
Same as From dusk til dawn the movie Predator surprised me just as much.
I saw it as a child at my pops on a recorded VHS so no pictures or cover art.
half way through the movie I'm like wtf there's an alien that's so cool 😂
When James mentioned the movie Devil, I came to think about another movie that I remember. It incorporated an office building where there was a secret elevator floor inbetween two floors, where there lived some kind of humanoid, yet demonic monster or something that a group of people had to fight. I just remember it vaguely, but I think I remember the image quality of being 90's or 80's. Does this sound familiar to anyone...?? If anyone recognizes this and knows the name of that movie, please tell me.
The Descent is one of the best - if not the best - british horror film in the last ten years. Fantastic performances all round and the ending is amazing, the _real_ ending that is!
You guys are crazy. This movie was tense af once the creatures were introduced. There was even a unexpected jump scare when they were in the cabin, at the beginning
You guys really need to re-watch the movies before you talked about them. You totally forgot about the affair subplot. The lead character may have been looking for an excuse to kill her friend after she found out that she was having an affair with her husband. That whole incident had a lot to do with the outcome of the movie.
Spoiler for the ending to The Descent:
There are two main endings: the original UK version, and the US version. The original UK ending sees her think she's escaped but it's a dream and she's still stuck in the caves; she'll never get out. Someone decided that wasn't upbeat enough so it was re-shot for the US release where she *does* get out.
There's a sequel, spun off from the US ending. Don't bother watching it unless you're really interested, though: it's not great.
Mike, again, interrupts James wayyyy too much! I can't stand it! He has no patience. I'd watch this stuff if it were twice as long, if he'd just wait until James is done talking, and vice versa.
I think you should rewatch the movie, because is not a misunderstanding at the end, the girl stabbed ask for help, but the black haired chick go away. Only after she ask to be killed, but from the the girl who lost his husband and also, before dying, she tell her that the black haired chick cheated her with the dead husband, and this is why she wants revenge mostly, I think.
I remember this movie being so slow that when the monsters got introduced I was as shocked as the characters in the movie. Like "Why are there monsters in my cave-in movie!!!???" I really liked that part, that's why I think the turtle pace worked alright for the movie...
I loved this movie because it played into my favorite character archetype: The unassuming normal person that when confronted with certain death, snaps and becomes the predator instead of the prey.
Alternate endings for movies sounds pretty cool, actually. Except instead of region/release based just run them randomly in cinemas and print them randomly on DVDs. It would be like video game discussions - "So what ending did you get?" and looking up alternate endings on TH-cam and such.
Why are they so confused about the ending? I thought it's easy to understand. Like REALLY easy!
devil was campy as hell, but I found it super entertaining.
is mike high?
haha!
+Døde Brø Probably all those late night live stream gameplay videos he's been doing lately.
+Døde Brø His monster dick is high. 12 inches high to be exact.
+Døde Brø lol, it cracks me up he's so anxious to talk the entire time. James just goes "mmm... yea" and nods his head wishing he could finish his thought.
+Elkdog Mike really just shines in the gaming videos. When he's passionate and enthusiastic, his anxiety goes away. He's a much better host than he started as.
Two endings: The American ending involves her getting out of the cave, getting into the car, and just narrowly missing getting hit by the truck. This spawned the sequel. The European ending is where she ends up trapped. Considering the sequel sucks and is completely unnecessary except for one scene near the end (and has an even worse ending than the American ending of the original), I definitely prefer the European ending.
I really like Mike and James, but there is something about the talking over each other, that makes it less enjoyable - like it puts me on edge, awesome videos, and I can't get enough of Mike and James though.
Mike: "We did watch the same version, you remember it better than I do"
Then maybe you should give James a chance to speak.
I agree guys! This film didn't need a monster reveal. It could have just worked with the protagonists own paranoia. I still enjoyed it though, and the directors earlier film Dog Soldiers rocked back in the day. I Just need to re-view it sometime.
Another film from a few years earlier that started really well, but plopped when the monster reveal came on was Jeepers Creepers. What were they thinking?
I love this one, definitely one of my favorite horror flicks of this millenia. Though I agree they've could've make it work without the monsters or any external threats like that. I saw the same ending btw, it was fine although a bit disheartening.
people already said it in the comments but.. if you watch the movie and then see your video you will notice that at the time of doing your review you actually don't know half of what the movie is all about ; )
still like you though ;p and The Descent is my 2nd favorite horror after The Ring
Another interpretation for the movie was that she was overridden with the need for revenge and the loss of her daughter caused her to "descend" into madness and kill her friends. I thought that one was really interesting, that the monsters were just an illusion she created in her head to deal with her murderous rage.
Haven't seen this movie yet, but the concept of the sub-humans reminds of the HP Lovecraft story about a guy lost in a cave with no light, and can hear something stalking him.
I totally agree with James, that they should've avoided just making it a monster movie. It's like they doubted their own abilities to make it scary enough without adding monsters to it.
This is one of my favourite horror films. Definitely one of the best modern horrors. It's so claustrophobic. Love it. I did enjoy the sequel too actually. Nice to see you review this!
Noobs ;) I was about to corrrect you with the ending, but James was able to recall it correctly. The American ending - the only other ending ended with a scene in which Sarah sees ghostly version of Juno in the car. So it doesn't segue again to the cave and the dream-like vision of her daughter, etc. I disagree about how the betrayal thread was handled in this film. It was handled very well, it was very believable and complex. Juno didn't of course mean to kill that girl Beth, but she refused to help her, and then she might have been genuinely sorry, but when Sarah confronted her about it, she flat out lied, because she was very, very afraid. And then Sarah went into a cognitive dissonance mode and had to vent out all those previously built up emotions. Beth told Sarah about the accident in such a way as if Juno killed her on purpose. She didn't. But she left her on purpose. So it was a very complex kind of misunderstanding. And Juno didn't want to leave caves without Sarah, which might be that a) she either wanted to make herself look like a good guy or b) genuinely cared. Which makes the ending even more tragic.But there was a theme of duel and character transformation going on through this film: Juno was brave and fearless but she ended up being scared shitless by the end of the film. And Sarah, completely the opposite. Kind of like Jo and Mario in French classic Wages of Fear.BTW I could summarize the whole thing as an all-female subterranean version of Deliverance.
I'm still surprised that Phantasm has never been reviewed or even noted in Monster Madness. I know only a few days are left so hopefully it gets a review this year. If not I'll just have to wait and hope that it gets a review for next year.
You guys are good at what you do, but a major problem with how you do it is the fact that you two continuously cut each other off over and over again. I don't think it annoys or bothers either of you since you both seem used to it and it doesn't destroy the product, but it's unprofessional and makes Cinemassacre look below other well-timed review channels involving two or more persons. Again, it's really no big deal, but the fact that I noticed it means others can and maybe the overall channel could benefit from scripted reviews where both of you know your timing. You could have one camera shoot a close-up on whomever is talking to make it seem more appropriate. I know you're both film majors and you know what you're doing, I'm just a fan who believes in Cinemassacre and would like to see it perform at the highest quality. Thanks.
Lol.
I saw this film 4 years ago I think and I live in Scotland so I got the same ending you guys had, it went exactly as James described it but I believe the daughter wasn't really there just in the mom's mind and then we head the sub humans coming after her. What I heard was that this ending was the real one and the one in America was cut at the Driving part because the actual ending was too dark for audiences, whatever nonsense that makes.
Should review Eden Lake. what a fucking depressing movie. but so good
I really liked Cirque Du Freak: The Vampire's Assistant. It's based a tween book series and never got sequels. But man, it was so much better than all this other tween book to movie crap: Twilight, Maze Runner, Harry Potter, etc. It's got loads of awesome Halloween scenery and fog, James, fog.
I saw this movie when it was new in 2005 and kind of forgot about it as it never came up in my head ever again until now but this brought it all back and I remember COMPLETELY agreeing with James about the way they made the girl seem like a hero for making a mistake I thought it was so stupid 10 years ago when I was 15 lol. Glad he brought that up!
I feel bad saying this... but the way Doug Walker feels about "The Matrix" basically sums up the way I feel about "The Descent." Overrated, uneven, pretentious and ultimately shallow but pseudo-intellectual enough to make the average audience member feel "smart" for "getting it."
I feel like it blew up only because it was a "right place, right time" situation and it made audiences feel cultured to say they liked a non-Hollywood horror film.
Maybe the hype killed it for me... but I'll never quite understand what people see in it.
And I'm not saying this as a hater. The movie itself isnt atrocious. And the director Neil Marshall also made the quite-good "Dog Soldiers", so I am something of a fan. But this did absolutely nothing for me, and his two follow-up films were equally if not more so troubled.
Many people are now saying the Descent is one of the best horror movies of the 00's and even of all time.
I'd say that it's one of the most genuinely scaring, the sense of terror is great and the way they use jump scares is better than most other modern movies.
But like these guys say: it does not really feel like it has a solid story idea. So I have a hard time placing it among the greats of all time.