British Guys Watch The History Of The Seattle Mariners! (The Seattle Mariners Build A Death Star)
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- After being inundated with hundreds of requests, we’ve done it! This is the 4th episode in a 6 episode series from The Secret Base channel. The History of the Seattle Mariners - (The Seattle Mariners Build A Death Star). We’ll put out an episode of this every Wednesday. The previous Jon Bois videos we’ve seen on this channel were sensational, and this series promises to deliver the same. Called by many as the greatest baseball video on TH-cam, this has been a pleasure.
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The metaphor behind “built a Death Star” was that they built something incredibly powerful but was destroyed by small flaws.
That makes sense!
Actually a brilliant analogy
Note about Randy’s 1998 after being traded to Houston:
ERA+ is basically a more advanced form of ERA that makes pitchers across different leagues, ballparks and eras comparable. A 100 ERA+ means you’re perfectly average, 101 means you’re 1% better than average, 99 means you’re 1% worse and so so on.
Johnson made 11 starts with the Astros in 1998 and his ERA+ was 328.
The shot of Ichirus arm gives me chills
There's a kid in NPB that is being hailed as the next greatest OF arm since Ichiro. I recommend checking out some of his Gold Glove highlights from the 2023 season. It's easier to search his name in Japanese: 万波 中正 He's half congolese, half japanese and also mashes in Japan. I think he leads of outfielders in DRS since 2022. I would argue he has a better arm than ichiro. It kind of reminds me of Clemente's arm.
@@armychowmein8021 Chusei Mannami
@@pboomgaming1987 lol, thanks! i realized i forgot to write it in english!
Cool thing about Randy Johnson...He graduated with an Art Degree in Photography and after he retired, he went back to his first love and became a Professional Photographer. He now shoots Nature and Wildlife Photography across the world, and sometimes shoots MLB players in Live Games. He brought his long time teammate and friend Ken Griffey Jr. to Africa on a Photography Trip, where Griffey never shot photography professionally at the time. Ken Griffey Jr. spoke candidly on how much he appreciated Randy Johnson for bringing him along and teaching him the basics of his craft.
I still have the Seattle Times and TNT front pages after the 95 series win over NY in frames. Best baseball memory of my life so far.
For me it’s the ‘93 home run derby & Cal Ripken Jr breaking the Iron Man streak, two beautiful moments in a beautiful ballpark
Haven’t had much cause for celebration since then lol
@@Newbobdole those are great memories too!
5:25 keep in mind the AL and NL were originally separate leagues competing against each other, and were legally considered separate entities until the year 2000!
Exactly and since they didn't play each other, it wasn't considered fair as to which team was actually worse. Still better than the NBA doing a coin flip between the worst East and West teams until 1984
Griffey’s injury history and number of man-games lost would support the idea that he did not use PEDs.
He didn't physically change much either.
Don't get too attached to A-Rod. He's largely considered Persona Non Grata among Seattle sports fans, right up there with Howard Shultz and David Stern, for good reason.
Yes, SafeCo Field is the same building as T-Mobile park. SafeCo, had the naming rights for 20 years, but they were later acquired by T-Mobile in 2018. SafeCo as an insurance company sort of stopped existing after being acquired by Liberty Mutual.
The Kingdome, though, was a fun place to watch a game. It had an energy to it that's hard to describe. I went to a few games when I was a kid, and I remember the day it was demolished. My dad and I were watching the news broadcast, and he had the bright idea of opening the door to our back porch when the demolitions were triggered. The resultant pressure wave caused my ears to pop, and we were at least 5km away, with a ridge line between us and downtown Seattle.
Liberty should re-acquire the naming rights and call it Liberty Biberty Ballpark
Alex Rodriguez's name became A-Rod. After his FA stunt to the Rangers, he became Pay-Rod or Fake-Rod. Then when the roid issues came out, he became A-Roid or Pay-Roid. His legacy is extremely complicated and controversial. Great ballplayer, complicated person who didn't always make moral decisions.
Even as a dodgers fan, this is a great documentary. Griffey jr. Probably the most pure,natural hitter of all time. Thatbswing was nothing less than majestic. Love from Downey ca.
Bonds definitely was working out in the 90s but I believe him that he didn't use steroids until 1999 after feeling overshadowed by Sosa and McGwire.
Even if he started a year or 2 earlier, McGwire and many others were juicing for a looooong time before him. Brady Anderson.
Mickey Mantle is one of the most famous players ever, that’s probably why you’ve heard the name
Episode five is my favorite. Ichiro is astounding.
“If you’re not mad at me you should be” … the kind of thing that makes Secret Base so good.
Second comment. Loved this one. To build on a point, Safeco/T Mobile is widely regarded as one of the least hitter friendly parks in the league, but it is particularly punishing on left handers with high exit angles like Griffey.
If there's another team history to watch, it's the Expos.
39:25
Huge Mariners fan, grew up in the Pacific Northwest. I was at that last game in the Kingdome. It was vintage, classic Griffey. Robbed one, hit one. My grandpa sbuck around a fence and grabbed some Kingdome rubble for me when it came down, still have it sitting here.
I'll be in the UK for the next 2 weeks! Hoping to enjoy my time traveling your great country!
It is fun to watch you guys grow as fans
Currently, a few years on from when that video was made, there's a growing school of thought that Randy Johnson was the greatest pitcher of all time. The fact that most of the other contenders (Walter Johnson, Cy Young, Christy Mathewson) pitched about a century before him makes it a difficult comparison, but considering the advances in major-league hitting since then, it's a fair shout.
A-Rod was a notorious diva, and openly despised the mariners for drafting him. He is one of the most hated baseball players in Seattle for a reason
For many longtime Mariner fans, Edgar is the fan favorite. Griffey the superstar though, and also very popular.
T-Mobile Park and SafeCo Field are the same building. Just a different corporate naming sponsor. The stadium has a retractable roof but it acts more like an umbrella that never fully encloses the field. So it keeps the Seattle rain off, but the park is still open to the air/wind even when the roof is closed. It has undergone several small upkeep/renovations since 2000, including bringing the fences in by about 5 -10 feet in the deepest parts of the outfield.
There used to be A LOT of distinguishes between the two leagues. In the 70s, the American League umpires wore a uniform that was not much difference from a red tuxedo. One of the leagues had their home plate umpire carry a big black (pillow like) shield, that had a curved area on the top for them to rest their chin on. The AL adopted the DH in the 70s. The All Star game was a big deal to the players. There wasn't any interleague play until the 90s. Even then, they started by only playing a very small number of interleague games (I think 5). So, the fact that the draft switches back and forth, is one distinguishing characteristic that still lives on.
The draft does not switch back forth anymore, so it does not live on...
To understand the evolution of baseball in the 90s AND ESPECIALLY the evolution of the Shortstop position, you *NEED* to watch the Secret Base video on Cal Ripken Jr breaking the Iron Man record ASAP
“…. so, I got one of the words right.” Brilliant, 😂
He’s getting there, one day at a time 😂
T-mobile park is the mariners stadium it used to be called Safeco until 2018 and it has retractable roof
In Bond's first 3 seasons, when he turned sideways, you'd be hard pressed to see him. He was a toothpick.
Favorite Mariner of all-time? It is Griff. I was born in '82. Lived on the other side of the country, but picked these dorks because of him. After that, I think, M's fans would rank Ichiro, Edgar and King Felix next. That is my order but if you are younger and have Felix as your #1 I completely get it. I love a lot of other players (Jay, Dan, etc.), but I feel comfortable saying those 4 are the Mt. Rushmoore.
You guys need to watch Secret Bases' series on Dave Stieb, one of the most under-rated pitchers of all time and a player for the Toronto Blue Jays witch were the other expansion team along with the Mariners.
On a beautiful sunny summer day with the mountains out in Seattle, during A-Rod's first trip to here, he was asked on the air what he thought of the Kingdome. He could have said that it was a good hitter's park, or the atmosphere was amazing when it was full. He could have deflected and commented on the beauty of the Pacific Northwest. Instead, while sitting in the dark, cold, cavernous Kingdome, he called it "a beautiful ballpark." That's when I knew he was smarmy. He was an exciting and impactful player, but he showed his true colors early (including choking), and he was not loved in Seattle.
Another episode lets goo! 🎉🎉 one of my favorite series you guys have watched.
13:34 - That season the Mariners bullpen was catastrophic. No matter the lead. No matter how well the starting pitcher had done. They would find a way to blow the game. I was 15-16 that season. It was soul crushing. We thought we were going to go to the World Series with our lineup.
38:15 I think the SafeCo stadium's unfavorable dimensions were "the straw that broke the camel's back" for Jr.
To add to the strangeness of the draft format, this was also the time that home-field advantage in World Series also alternated with the NL getting it in even-numbered years and the AL in odd-numbered years. Also, during the period with two-divisions per league and 2 teams per league in the playoffs (1969 to 1993), the home-field advantage in the LCS also alternated with the NL East and AL West getting it in odd-numbered years and the NL West and AL East getting it in even-numbered years.
I just took next Thursday off of work so I could go see the Yankees play the Mariners, I moved from New Jersey to Seattle almost 10 years ago and they come to town for a 3 game set once a year. I lived in the Bronx in 98 and watched the greatest team in MLB history all summer long set the wins record in the AL, on their way to winning the World series. Seattle broke that record and like Michael Jordan said, "I took it personal". 🤣🤣
They didn't really address how awful the bullpens were for the M's.
12:21 every video has a few "welcome to Mariners fandom" moments. This is one.
That’s why frank was so mad😂
They also did a similar series on the Atlanta Falcons, which is also tremendous!
Stadium names have been taken over by corporate branding. Safeco insurance had nothing to do with saving the Mariners nor with building the stadium the team moved into. Safeco just slapped their brand on to the stadium for as long as they could afford to which ended up being twenty years (costing the company $40M). T-mobile cell phone service company now has the naming rights for twenty-five years (costing $87.5M).
Side note: Seattle is in King County hence the name 'Kingdome' for its (former) municipally-funded sports facility. Interestingly, King County was officially re-namesaked for Martin Luther King from 1986 onward after officials passed a motion kicking its previous namesake (a slaveowner from the 1800s) to history’s curb. This means the Kingdome was named after MLK for the last half of its existence. As a Seattleite back in the late '90s, I thought keeping with that theme and naming the new facility 'MLK Stadium' would have been of better taste than cashing in on corporate brand naming rights. At the very least, the taxpayers who footed the majority of the new stadium's construction bill should have had a vote on what the eventual name would be.
Safeco did become T-Mobile and is still in use as the Mariners park.
Cubs scored 5.05 runs per game in 2023 for #2 and the Braves scored almost 6 runs a game in 2023, at 5.85. Braves had the one of the best offenses of all time. Miss 2023 😭
Haha! I never thought about that being from America. How other people would picture people "catching fire." I never actually pictured people literally catching fire. That was funny to me.
God id love to do a reaction video with yall as a Mariners fan lol. Just the info and insight i could help give just once would be heart warming to me🤣
My mom got us tickets to the Baltimore Orioles playoff series, then she got me out of school early so we'd make the games. She even pre-ordered World Series tickets in case we made it. She says she still has them somewhere.
Probably been answered but the draft format back then was because there wasn't any interleague play back then. So it was a way to share the talent base between leagues.
If you base it on "best" yes, it's Griffey or Ichiro. But my favorite player is Edgar.
Junior and Ichiro are all-time greats and I love that they represented our city. But Edgar was the one who made it happen with no fanfare and never left us.
@@andrewpiro9072 Exactly, I loved how he just showed up and did his job, while bringing up the entire clubhouse.
@@denali_coug6955 we're an underdog franchise and he was an underdog hall of famer
8:45 Just had to go google what “Irrespective” and “Neophyte” mean.
Greatest Mariner between Griffey and Ichiro? Really tough to say. Griffey was the first Super star for Seattle baseball, a household name around the country. Ichiro was iconic and one of the greatest hitters of all time. I don't think I can choose. I followed Griffey's stats in the paper every day in the late 80's as a teenager. I didn't care about the team really. 1995 changed things, but only to be let down again for many years. The winter of 2000 I happened to read about the chance for the Mariners to get Ichiro. I knew nothing about him, but he was supposed to be the best Japan had. I started following all off season and then when the 2001 season started, I could not believe how amazing he was. I became a fan again.
Mariners are the Tottenham of MLB
You really need to watch their video on the 2010 San Diego Chargers season that had the league's best offense AND the league's best defense AND STILL missed the playoffs.
The real irony is that in the 25 years since Safeco Field (now T-Mobile Park) was built, the Mariners have never been able to sustain a steady offense. The one time they did was in the power-mad mid-to-late-aughts, when MLB made a number of alterations to the ball to make it fly further and spin more predictably. Aside from that, they’ve brought in every kind of hitter you can think of, and the only ones that have worked out have been generational players like Edgar Martinez, Ichiro Suzuki, and Nelson Cruz.
Ken Griffey, Jr. owns a minority share in the Mariners now, and I should hope that his legacy as part of the ownership group is fixing the beautiful but utterly cursed stadium the Mariners play in.
Darth Vader lived in the Death Star for like a few weeks, he typically roams around in the Star Destroyer _Devastator_ or later the Super Star Destroyer _Executor_ with his home base being a supervillain fortress on the lava planet of Mustafar
13:13 and this year, we have historically good pitching and historically bad hitting. If it's not one thing, it's another.
Also, fwiw, in 1995 the M's traded for Andy Benes and Vince Coleman down the stretch, to great effect. 1996 is the year the front office traded for Jamie Moyer (one of my all-time favorite Mariners), so it's not like they weren't trying (though I'll forever be mad that front office traded Omar Vizquel for peanuts after they drafted Ass-Rod).
If you're a Baseball fan then you must watch the Kurt Russell documentary - The Battered Bastards of Baseball.
They used the (strikingly different) sizes of Bond’s head, hands, and shoes as evidence against him in his trial… lol.
The pitchers were also juicing when bonds and Maguire were. Those two weren’t alone, like 70% of the league was on that shit
5:30 I think they got rid of the alternating the #1 pick between leagues after the 2004 draft. This time the Detroit Tigers nearly set a record for the worst team of all time and they still got the 2nd pick behind the San Diego Padres. The Padres drafted a player that almost never made it to the big leagues (Matt Bush) and the Detroit Tigers got who probably should have went #1 overall in Justin Verlander.
Bitter sweet.
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Can't wait for y'all to see what happens in 2001.
How appropriate, end this one with the 51st like....
at 4:20 or so I think you missed the sarcasm due to the dry delivery, but "forever proving the maxim that someone who's obsessed with television can never be president" was probably a joke about Donald Trump
I love dry sarcasm but I definitely missed that 😂
Only thing people really need to know about Seattle is that sadly they are literally probably the biggest loser franchise in sports history. After being founded it took like 20 years to make the playoffs, then like 20 years to make it again. Had 1 ok playoffs and then got absolutely blasted, and then 20 years to make the playoffs where they lost. All of that mostly playing in a division with teams that were so bad they shouldn't have even been in the league. Wish they could be run competently but they blew some teams with incredible cores.
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