Thanks for the lively discourse in the comments. Some notes (I may update this as more comments come in): - This M2 Mac Mini is currently on sale for $499 on Amazon: amzn.to/3KhxlCH - Although development has halted on the emulator, AetherSX2 is available for Macs with silicon chips and I tested it after making this video. It runs like a dream, and resolves any issues I had with PS2 games lagging in PCSX2. I was able to play God of War II and Jak & Daxter at 4K resolution with zero issue. I've added more info to the written guide. - For the Sega Saturn interlacing/combing artifacts in Beetle Saturn, I found that using a CRT royale or bob shader resolves the issue. Some options include misc/bob-deinterlace, misc/bob-and-ghost-deinterlace, crt/crt-geom, crt/crt-royale, and crt/phosphorlut. - The heavy-duty CRT royale shaders work great on this setup within RetroArch, even with a combination of other features like run-ahead and rewind enabled, every core ran at full speed. - Regarding input lag on MacOS, I ran a series of tests with retro games including bluetooth and wired controllers, and tried to tax the system heavily with shaders and other features enabled, and everything still ran very well. I didn't feel any difference compared to playing these same games via RetroArch on a Windows PC, although adding run-ahead of 2 did make the experience feel a little more responsive (and still played very well). I wouldn't consider myself extremely sensitive to lag but it was a genuinely excellent retro gaming experience. - I understand the Apple hate, for example I don't agree with their stance on repairability and user upgrades. But it is also nice to see what other computers can accomplish outside of general Windows/PC spaces, and enjoying retro games on a Mac doesn't need to turn into a competition with other platforms. The reason for making this video was to show that if you own a Mac, or are interested in getting one, it does a great job with emulation right now. As a point of clarification, MacOS is not "walled off" in the same way that iOS and iPadOS is -- you can freely install apps (as is demonstrated with installing the emulators in this video).
That interlacing you saw on the Saturn might have had something to do (MIGHT, I'm speculating here) with how some Saturn games did some funny business with their resolution, like running their foreground elements in 480i and background in 240p or something. On a CRT you could do stuff like that, line to line changing the resolution, and I saw in a Retro RGB video how some upscalers handle that poorly.
@@NoobixCube after doing some more digging, apparently it is due to the interlaced signal being deinterlaced with a "weave" algorithm, which also happens on cheap DVD transfers of old TV shows. The shaders I mention above convert the deinterlacing to reduce the effect but with some additional motion blur.
@@RetroGameCorps fair enough, but I've been repairing apple and other products for years and Apple had been the top manufacturer that has screwed Right to repair in the states since day one it's so heartbreaking that a great tech company that makes very good hardware will screw the small independent repair shops! I hate apple, but i support you brother keep it up!
If you get the “unknown developer” pop up, you should be able to right click on the app and click open, this time it will give you a “run anyway” command. Should save you from having to go into the settings app to find and allow it like you did
@@RetroGameCorps Have any guides or tips for a Windows Mini PC ? I'm thinking of refreshing my setup, buying a new (Windows) HTPC/Mini and a new Laptop (mac). That seems like a better combination than the other way around (Windows Laptop + mac Mini). I feel like for today's standards it should have an AMD r7-6800u for the iGPU performance. An r9-6900hx is nice, but it's not much of an upgrade, yet the price would be too high. Based on your chart, the Mac Mini M2 at USD $500 does pretty well, with the exceptions you've noted. But there doesn't seem to be any comparable (6800u +) Mini PCs out there at that USD $500 price point. Unless you know some, or can point the way forward. Cheers and Aloha.
@@ekinteko as far as "price friendly" emulation power from a """reputable""" manufacturer, this is probably a good a it gets.. Arguably there are cheaper mini-pc with arguably better performance with tweaking; but it'll be from some random company in China... This is a really tempting option tbh... my 2cents
@@unbearifiedbear1885 I found this guy; the Venus UM773. It's the cheapest 6800u variant out there. On sale now for around USD $550 online. That gets you 32GB RAM and 1TB SSD.
@@ekinteko if you want you could just plug your Mac into your monitor and use it as a desktop for emulation It will still be super quiet and since the processors are basically the same there should be little to no performance penalties A windows mini pc for the price of a Mac Mini could be a bit of a stretch right now, however if you don’t mind getting a slightly bigger pc then it will do just fine!
I don't have a Mac to test it but doesn't Cemu have Vulkan API even on Mac, which supports asynchronus shader compilation? Alternatively, there are repositories of compiled shaders you can download and import to remove the stutter.
I remember how bad some of the games were on the Macs back in the late 80s. I remember my friend buying Corvette at Egghead software and us checking it out and trying to return it. Ever try that game?
I honestly think that I shouldn't have bought an iMac M1. M chipsets are awesome, but they are extremely handicapped for being forced to run macOS and shady Apple stuff such as only supporting Metal API. They have an awesome power consumption and good design tho. Having an apple device to work is neat, not gonna lie, but for multimedia and overall user enjoyment is not that good. And apple is not gonna change this anytime soon. They prefer to support Apple Arcade and add more useless interactions with other apple devices with each macOS update than fixing macOS stuff itself. A Windows computer can do all, and not being limited to what apple lets you do. And this includes adding more ram, changing the OS, using multiple VMs from different architectures at once, playing games, streaming, customizing...
I think this will be a very good value in about 2 years once corporate users start selling these to upgrade to a newer model. These are very popular among creative workflow offices right now, so there should be a very healthy supply of them once that sell-off happens. Plus we should see emulator support for Mac / Apple silicon be a lot more mature in a couple years time, so performance will be better on the same hardware.
I was honestly thinking with how Asahi Linux is progressing, I would pick one up maybe 8 or so years down the line when they'll presumably basically be seen as e-waste and use it as a home server.
@@liamness yes! I'm *still* using a 2010 Mac mini server & it works great for what it is. [I'm just catching up w Asahi developments today & impressed]
@@sockrabbtt I don’t have a windows Pc, at the moment. It works well for me. I do a lot of video work (just 1080) and music on it, also. Have had great luck with Saturn stuff.
@@DoubleDguitarwierd. I’ve seen that emulated before on video with Mac mini with no issue. Better than some cheap windows pcs even. Although windows you could get a pretty good performance for around the same price
I've been running Citra on my M1 Macbook Air for a while now, and it has been great emulating 3ds games. There is a specific ARM build for it that someone made, but I found it too buggy (it would randomly crash too often). So I have been just using the old Mac build and running it through Rosetta and it has been great.
How much of what he talks about in this video for mac mini, can be used on an M1 macbook air? If most of it works, and/or works with minor tweaks, I might try loading up a bunch of the emulators he talks about in here on my own M1 macbook air and save myself $600 for a new mac :P :D
@@IronDad-ml3wq M2 is only about 10-15% faster than the M1 chip, but your Air will definitely get a bit hotter than a Macbook Pro or Mac Mini and thus may throttle. Give it a shot! :)
All of it, I have an M1 Air with 16GB of RAM and it runs everything up to and including PS3 games really well. PCSX2 has support for the Metal API now too which really makes a difference if you want to emulate PS2 games. AetherSX2 was more performant but the developer isn't working on it anymore so I went back to PCSX2 and found they've updated and streamlined it hugely. @@IronDad-ml3wq
OpenEmu is amazing and honestly I prefer its design over a lot of the PC offerings. It's a better "out of the box" experience as well. Something like LaunchBox is really neat and customizable, but it can honestly feel overwhelming for users. OpenEmu is nice because you can just drag and drop ROMs and it'll scrape the information and allow you to boot seamlessly from its launcher (for supported emulators). I just wish they had more integration for 6th generation consoles.
@@seadx6 I have not as I'm not much of a Linux guy, but I may see what it's about to get an idea. From a quick glance it looks similar to OpenEmu's design which I like.
There haven’t been major updates to OpenEmu for a while, apparently people are having a lot of problems with it on Apple silicone. Still works brilliantly on my old intel Mac tho. I hope they’ve not abandoned it completely
I 100% agree . Its just sad that if I want to play PS2 games (and its a major one for me) I still have to go on Windows, but for all the other retro consoles, OpenEmu is all I need.
I found your channel a couple of weeks ago and have been hooked. I've watched a bunch of your videos on retro handheld emulators. This guide is perfect for me as I have a Mac. While I've been able to run different emulators, it's always nice to find a guide that is using the same OS I'm using and is very detailed. Keep up the great work!
I have the Mac Mini M1 model that came out a couple of years ago. I like both Mac and PC for totally different reasons. Yeah, Macs aren't the best for gaming (though getting better) and Apple does have poor user upgradiblity and pricing. One thing I like though is that apple stuff just WORKS. It connects seamlessly and stuff transfers over without any issues. Like I may wanna upgrade my cheap mac-mini with a more powerful mac mini (in time) and I know I'll be able to transfer over all data in my sleep. Cuz it's Apple.
You’re the first person I’ve ever seen with a Mewithoutyou shirt. I’ve seen them plenty of times in our hometown of Philadelphia. Great video as well, but you already knew that. 👌
Already have the base M2 Mac Mini. I use Dolphin on it already and it runs very well. One thing I'd like to mention is if you're a student or a teacher, you can get the base M2 Mac Mini for $499.
So much easier to drag apps out of the dock instead of using the context menu. Also, you can launch the app by ctrl- or right-clicking on the app and choosing Open (at least that worked up to Monterey, maybe they changed it in Ventura).
Hey, have you tried aethersx2 instead of pcsx2? The optimization is incredible, as I’m able to run many ps2 games at 4K on my m1 MacBook Air, and every one I’ve tested can do a stable 1440p 60fps (burnout 3, gt4, etc). A shame that people have harassed the developer to a point of shutting it down.
I just bought a refurbished M1 mac mini and I am excited to see what retro emulation I have fun with on it. Thanks for this timely (for me) video! The pricing for the M2 machines aren't so enticing when you earn and spend in Canadian dollars so I'll have to live vicariously through M2 owners to some extent. :).
The performance difference from M1 to M2 isn’t huge, to be honest. I have an M1 MacBook Air and it handles everything I throw at it. Enjoy your new computer!
I remember seeing that wouldn’t be possible for more modern systems like the Wii U or the Switch, at least for now. But there is an alternative, there is databases of “pre-run” shaders (basically people who have ran the game and compiled shaders once who then share their shaders). I think I remember about a manager for ryujinx (ryusak) that automatically download shaders for the games you have, there might be something similar for cemu
I'm also a primary mac user so I'm glad to see this :D I really hope Apple catches up with the gaming cause there is a huge audience of people who would like to have one or two devices to enjoy the games they love most :)
Out of all the retro game review channels I watch, you are the only that shows your face, and I really like it. I think it helps the audience feel more connected with you. Love your content, keep it up!
I’m of the opposite opinion, not because I don’t like seeing Russ’ face (although I think he looked much better - younger, too! - without a beard 😅), but because every second spent on his face is one second stolen from showing us what he’s talking about. In fact, what I like about his channel is how efficient it is: to the point (except for cat breaks, but let those pass 😂), no frills and, thank goodness, no stupid faces.
I absolutely loved this. While more than half was review as I already casually enjoy retro on my MBP M1, the remainder was pure gold. Time to complete my retro arcade setup! 😎
Nintendo Won’t like this Video Ps Can you play skylanders saga and pokemon in this way ? I’m not particularly into console emulation, do you need to pay the games?
At 27:46 he mentions that the dock always pops up when quitting a game. Has anyone found a Mac OS setting to stop that from happening? My controller doesn’t have a home button so I have to grab a keyboard every time.
Unfortunately async compilation is not an option in the Mac version of Cemu, you can toggle it on but it will give you an error that says it is currently not working. The graphics driver doesn't support the necessary Vulkan extension.
What’s crazy is that iPads have this exact chip. If we could side load these emulators it could be the best mobile emulation platform. Frustrating to be locked out due to the App Store
Yes, I'd love to see a full-fledged MacOS option on the M-chip iPads, I understand why Apple wants to separate those user experiences but it would be nice to have a super-powered emulation tablet without having to be constrained by iPadOS apps and sideloading.
But be very careful. macOS dropped support for running 32-bit x86 binaries a while ago (anything from Catalina onwards. Catalina was truly a cursed macOS). I saw TF2 pop up when you were showing the steam store for macOS, and it certainly wont run on the newer M-series machines. You can use crossover or something else for virtualisation, but it’s hit and miss. I’ve been really enjoying the work of mac source ports, whose website you can look up. Some serious classics are getting ported to Apple Silicon & there are more every couple of weeks.
That’s my gripe why I can’t be fully on board the apple train. I have a iPhone 13 but know one day it won’t be able to update apps while a android from the same year can use even legacy old apps. Same with windows for the most part.
What a great video, huge thanks to you! I've been messing around with the Dolphin emulator on my MacBook Air M2 (16 GB Ram) and tested Resident Evil 4, The Simpsons: Hit & Run, Gun, Super Mario Sunshine and it's pretty impressive. My device never gets heated, games are running smoothly. And OpenEmu is just a great way to play GBA and Sega games easily. I love how most of the emulators works great on M1-M2. Soon I'll try Cemu for the WiiU games. Thanks for the video again, I'm sure it'll help lots of people just to get opinion about emulating games on Mac!
Anyone having an issue with ES-DE and PS2?. On game load, I'm getting an error saying "Couldn't find emulator "PCSX2", Has it been properly installed" on load. Happens with all emulator options?
Great guide! I really considered getting a Mini, but the exchange rate didn't make the price as attractive in Japan. Bought a used powerful desktop PC (Ryzen 7 5800X + RTX 3070) locally, but hope to replace my underwhelming Windows laptop with a MacBook someday since I like working in both environments. Maybe I'll get a Mac Mini for my mom 🤔
There have been successful experiments using Asahi Linux + Proton + x86-on-ARM emulation to play x86 Windows Steam games on a Mac. It looks like it's within reach!
Recently got a mac mini to try for the first time and I liked it so much that now I use it as my primary pc and then I stream my pc games with moonlight.
Why do you need to emulate Nintendo switch games a game like Mario Odyssey I find it all the time posted up on Marketplace for $10 I saw a first-generation switch the other day for $80 I mean I understand what you're trying to show but it's so much work when you can just buy a console that plays it
@@chronology556 oh I'm aware emulators are awesome but the Nintendo switch is also awesome and it's cheap you can find used ones all over Marketplace for next to nothing and the games are cheap to if you look around and get deals why just buy the console spend the money on the games
It’s important to keep in mind that this thing is $600 and offers performance similar to a gaming PC that costs $1000+. Considering you can possibly catch these on sale or refurbed, you could be looking at a sub-$500 emulation machine that’s only going to improve over time. That’s an insane deal. I’m curious if the M1 machines do as well as this as the GPU didn’t change too much between generations.
For a hundred dollars less than the cheapest Mac Mini, you can buy a Steam Deck with twice the RAM, twice the onboard storage, (upgradable storage, too) better support for Steam games (naturally) and better support for emulation. Plus, it's battery-powered, has its own screen and its own built-in gamepad controls. A Mac mini's a fine general-purpose computer, but it's no gaming powerhouse.
Thanks. The DVD drive on my old PS2 packed up years ago and I was planning on soft-modding it. PCXS2 works like a charm so far! I didn't have any luck with getting PS2 to work on RetroArch though. Seems there's still no working core for Mac Silicon yet only an experimental one, (Play!) and for whatever reason I couldn't get it to create PS2 playlist.
16:06 I would guess that the Fighting Vipers game is actually running in 480i and the emulator is only doing a simple weave deinterlacing. I've seen this happen with some ps1 emulators on games that run in 480i. I would guess that either rendering at a higher resolution or if possible, changing the deinterlacing method in emulator settings to something different, would both fix the "issue". Not really an issue though, just a weird quirk that makes the visuals look different since we are not playing on CRT TVs anymore.
Using retroarch for me was so frustrating even with your guide it is such a hustle. Why they can't make easy out of box "default" experience for everybody who just want to play and not dive deep into the settings, updates, cores etc...
Not much has changed when building a "modern" PC, same layout, same kind of box, same huge waste of space and power.... LOL, dont get me wrong, I have them and work on them, but rely on my Macs.
When the first Mac Mini with m1 came out I was able to download games from the App Store that I would play on my iPad and it was smooth while also multitasking(because the iPad still does not support true multitasking like a computer), but I had to return it because at the time I did not need it. Years later I decide to buy it for keeps and then I find out that a lot of the apps that was downloadable were now gone, so returned it. Useless.
I've been using OpenEmu for 10 years and have Retroarch on a modded Playstation Classic (mini). I never emulated anything more modern than PS2 or DS games. Now after watching this I'm considering a Mac Mini and then building a gaming station/arcade cabinet look with a 32 - 55inch LCD or OLED.
I've been thinking about this a lot since the M chips dropped, but the upgrade slant of their lineup these days really keeps me from doing anything. nothing in their lineup feels like a good buy because it's all a couple hundred dollars away from a much better system. and I'm not going to buy the top tier stuff, so it all just feels like a bad move.
If the ssd's were user replaceable I would jump on it but I don't want to support a company that treats whole computers as disposable trash meant for landfills. Their anti consumer repair policies are the cancer of the modern silicone world
Sucks what happened with Aethersx2, PS2 emulation on a Mac was perfect with that emulator, but ever since the release on Ryujinx, I've pushed majority of my switch and ps3 emulation back to my Mac instead of steam deck.
note on the quietness/thermals - apple is focusing on being quiet like A LOT. they have some weird settings on this. i have the m1 macbook pro and i can reach 76C without the fans kicking in. and i mean not that they are quiet, i mean they are turned off. i think they turn on after 80C or something like that, which is kind of ridiculous. i guess if the chip is ok with such temperatures this is ok with the desktop versions, like the mac mini, but the laptop versions, if you hold them in your lap, its getting REALLY hot. so i downloaded the Macs Fan Control app and put a custom fan curve.
My iMac m1 gets 90ºC using simple iOS apps. Not macOS apps, no, i mean very simple iOS apps downloaded from the appstore. And using VMs too, like opening edge with parallels. Kinda weird. It goes from 45º to 90º, no in between, the same goes for the fans, they are either completely silent or PS4 airplane mode, lol.
@@xeienar hm... without any cooling (passive and active) it's easy for a cpu to jump in temp. with addition of the stupid fan curve they have, my guess is either the passive cooling is way too weak, or maybe the thermal paste is not working. i would suggest downloading the macs fan control and put a custom setting for the fan to start at 45 or so. if it still does the same, then maybe there is a problem with the passive cooling. the fan itself is stupidly set without that app, so it's normal to jump like that when it reach 90 I have it set like that, and it usually stay at about 1400 rpm which is still pretty quiet.
Russ, I am having retroarch issues when my roms are on external drives (Macbook M2).. If the external drive disconnects, then reconnects, the drive/volume name changes within Retroarch, where as in finder, it stays the same. Once this drive/vol name changes, Retroach can't find my roms, until I reboot the Macbook pro. So for example, I have an external Drive called "RomDrive".. I scan the folders for roms and retroach works fine. If "RomDrive" disconnects/Reconnects, in MACOS FInder, the drive is still "Rom Drive". But Retroach says it cannot find anything roms on "Rom Drive".. but if I look in retroarch, there is now a "Rom Drive 1".. and RA shows my roms there"... have you had any experience with this on MACOS (apple silicon)? Haven't noticed them on any of my RA windows installations... Thanks... you do great work
Wasn’t the Amiga using the same chip as Apple computers back in the day? They’re two systems I like, planning to buy a Mac mini to replace my desktop so that its not an all in one.
Though, someone here may have already mentioned it, I must admit... I almost wanted to watch the pain by you using the pop up, "Remove from Dock" for every app... LOL But, Im not a Sadist.... Drag from the dock, wait a moment, and it will remove the shortcut from the Dock.
13:05 if you right-click/control+click on the app it will then give you the "Open" option even from an un-trusted developer. Saves a trip to settings. Great video!
my plan is to buy one with more ram as an all purpose machine so i'm looking forward to play and work hard on an impressive beast, the fact the entry model only has 8gb and still performs that well is mindboggeling.
I noticed some issues with Ryujinx mainly on xenoblade chronicles 2 and 3 where it was a bit dodgy at best and that is with running on a macbook pro M3 Pro with 36gb of ram. Now I haven't really tried any of the other games but I will try them out later as I do own all of these games for the switch as well.
Now that Parallels uses the native hardware on Apple Silicon computers, there have been good results running PC games within that on M1/M2 Mini's. Fancy testing it ? 😆
i could not archive that in Breath of the wild. It gets me just 20 , 14 fps... But my is de Mac Mini M1 8gb . Mario kart and Donkey kong Tropical freeze is ok.
My biggest complaint is the bluetooth connection to Wiimote's. It worked fine on BigSur but since then it asks you to input the pairing number which doesn't work. Any ideas?
Really cool video. I wasn't expecting to be, but I have to admit I'm impressed. At $499, this Mac Mini costs roughly 10% of my desktop workstation and probably gets about 70% of the emulation experience. Excluding fringe things like high refresh rate, extreme graphics mods, and brute-forcing poorly optimized games, this thing largely goes toe-to-toe with my system. Considering it's a machine that's 10% of the price, 10% of the size, and 10% of the power-draw, its a pretty compelling value.
Great video. But, it sounds like Emulation Station would do everything for me. Did I understand that correctly? For example, if I do not want to location ANY emulators at all, will Emulation station install all of the emulators and bios as well?
I’m quite enticed by the low price point along with the 2TB external SSD. I’d use someone’s college info to get that sweet sweet discount. One of my fave things about your content Russ is how you provide cost effective alternatives & solutions to expensive gear and/or tech.
Thanks for the lively discourse in the comments. Some notes (I may update this as more comments come in):
- This M2 Mac Mini is currently on sale for $499 on Amazon: amzn.to/3KhxlCH
- Although development has halted on the emulator, AetherSX2 is available for Macs with silicon chips and I tested it after making this video. It runs like a dream, and resolves any issues I had with PS2 games lagging in PCSX2. I was able to play God of War II and Jak & Daxter at 4K resolution with zero issue. I've added more info to the written guide.
- For the Sega Saturn interlacing/combing artifacts in Beetle Saturn, I found that using a CRT royale or bob shader resolves the issue. Some options include misc/bob-deinterlace, misc/bob-and-ghost-deinterlace, crt/crt-geom, crt/crt-royale, and crt/phosphorlut.
- The heavy-duty CRT royale shaders work great on this setup within RetroArch, even with a combination of other features like run-ahead and rewind enabled, every core ran at full speed.
- Regarding input lag on MacOS, I ran a series of tests with retro games including bluetooth and wired controllers, and tried to tax the system heavily with shaders and other features enabled, and everything still ran very well. I didn't feel any difference compared to playing these same games via RetroArch on a Windows PC, although adding run-ahead of 2 did make the experience feel a little more responsive (and still played very well). I wouldn't consider myself extremely sensitive to lag but it was a genuinely excellent retro gaming experience.
- I understand the Apple hate, for example I don't agree with their stance on repairability and user upgrades. But it is also nice to see what other computers can accomplish outside of general Windows/PC spaces, and enjoying retro games on a Mac doesn't need to turn into a competition with other platforms. The reason for making this video was to show that if you own a Mac, or are interested in getting one, it does a great job with emulation right now. As a point of clarification, MacOS is not "walled off" in the same way that iOS and iPadOS is -- you can freely install apps (as is demonstrated with installing the emulators in this video).
That interlacing you saw on the Saturn might have had something to do (MIGHT, I'm speculating here) with how some Saturn games did some funny business with their resolution, like running their foreground elements in 480i and background in 240p or something. On a CRT you could do stuff like that, line to line changing the resolution, and I saw in a Retro RGB video how some upscalers handle that poorly.
@@NoobixCube after doing some more digging, apparently it is due to the interlaced signal being deinterlaced with a "weave" algorithm, which also happens on cheap DVD transfers of old TV shows. The shaders I mention above convert the deinterlacing to reduce the effect but with some additional motion blur.
@@RetroGameCorps can u make a video on a STEP BY STEP on how to get a ROM to down load and get a ROM to work
Great vid!
I mostly agree with most Mac hate, but it's great that people can enjoy retro gaming and emulation in all systems.
@@RetroGameCorps fair enough, but I've been repairing apple and other products for years and Apple had been the top manufacturer that has screwed Right to repair in the states since day one it's so heartbreaking that a great tech company that makes very good hardware will screw the small independent repair shops! I hate apple, but i support you brother keep it up!
For the mac users, I hope that Valve eventually makes a version of Proton available as well.
If you get the “unknown developer” pop up, you should be able to right click on the app and click open, this time it will give you a “run anyway” command. Should save you from having to go into the settings app to find and allow it like you did
Nice tip, thanks!
@@RetroGameCorps Have any guides or tips for a Windows Mini PC ?
I'm thinking of refreshing my setup, buying a new (Windows) HTPC/Mini and a new Laptop (mac). That seems like a better combination than the other way around (Windows Laptop + mac Mini).
I feel like for today's standards it should have an AMD r7-6800u for the iGPU performance. An r9-6900hx is nice, but it's not much of an upgrade, yet the price would be too high.
Based on your chart, the Mac Mini M2 at USD $500 does pretty well, with the exceptions you've noted. But there doesn't seem to be any comparable (6800u +) Mini PCs out there at that USD $500 price point. Unless you know some, or can point the way forward. Cheers and Aloha.
@@ekinteko as far as "price friendly" emulation power from a """reputable""" manufacturer, this is probably a good a it gets..
Arguably there are cheaper mini-pc with arguably better performance with tweaking; but it'll be from some random company in China...
This is a really tempting option tbh... my 2cents
@@unbearifiedbear1885 I found this guy; the Venus UM773. It's the cheapest 6800u variant out there. On sale now for around USD $550 online. That gets you 32GB RAM and 1TB SSD.
@@ekinteko if you want you could just plug your Mac into your monitor and use it as a desktop for emulation
It will still be super quiet and since the processors are basically the same there should be little to no performance penalties
A windows mini pc for the price of a Mac Mini could be a bit of a stretch right now, however if you don’t mind getting a slightly bigger pc then it will do just fine!
I just got an M2 Mini. I’m going to try this out. Thanks for this.
I had TONS of issues with pcsx2 on my mac. Switched to aethersx2 and haven’t had any issues.
6:20 Just drag and drop the icons outside of the bar-high enough- and they'll be removed.
I don't have a Mac to test it but doesn't Cemu have Vulkan API even on Mac, which supports asynchronus shader compilation? Alternatively, there are repositories of compiled shaders you can download and import to remove the stutter.
power usage would be interesting for the mac vs other devices. if you can.
I remember how bad some of the games were on the Macs back in the late 80s. I remember my friend buying Corvette at Egghead software and us checking it out and trying to return it. Ever try that game?
Can you play switch games on the mac mini
I honestly think that I shouldn't have bought an iMac M1. M chipsets are awesome, but they are extremely handicapped for being forced to run macOS and shady Apple stuff such as only supporting Metal API. They have an awesome power consumption and good design tho. Having an apple device to work is neat, not gonna lie, but for multimedia and overall user enjoyment is not that good. And apple is not gonna change this anytime soon. They prefer to support Apple Arcade and add more useless interactions with other apple devices with each macOS update than fixing macOS stuff itself. A Windows computer can do all, and not being limited to what apple lets you do. And this includes adding more ram, changing the OS, using multiple VMs from different architectures at once, playing games, streaming, customizing...
Shoutout to that mewithoutyou shirt
I went from a search for a live video of Julia to this. It was so weird.
I saw, and I immediately hit the uppy thumb. How does this video-machine of a man also have time to find good tunes?
Russ gets better and better
King beetle song is my favorite
Hell yeah, I knew Russ was a real one
I think this will be a very good value in about 2 years once corporate users start selling these to upgrade to a newer model. These are very popular among creative workflow offices right now, so there should be a very healthy supply of them once that sell-off happens. Plus we should see emulator support for Mac / Apple silicon be a lot more mature in a couple years time, so performance will be better on the same hardware.
I was honestly thinking with how Asahi Linux is progressing, I would pick one up maybe 8 or so years down the line when they'll presumably basically be seen as e-waste and use it as a home server.
@@liamness yes! I'm *still* using a 2010 Mac mini server & it works great for what it is. [I'm just catching up w Asahi developments today & impressed]
have you found a particular website that sources corporate sell offs? I want to be armed & ready 2 years from now :)
You think offices upgrade their computers every 2 years? What fantasy world do you live in?
@@Robstrap Haha, so true!
Another thing to mention is that joycons work with mac now and are great to use with dolphin as a wiimote.
Shit yeah!
I have been doing a lot of Gamecube and Saturn emulation on my Mac mini. It’s been great.
how capable is it generally? is it your main system or do you have something else? perhaps something windows?
@@sockrabbtt I don’t have a windows Pc, at the moment. It works well for me. I do a lot of video work (just 1080) and music on it, also. Have had great luck with Saturn stuff.
@@DoubleDguitar you haven't by chance tried NFS Hot Pursuit 2 (GameCube) on it, have you?
it's one of the few my old dell can't handle at all
@@sockrabbtt not that one, I know the Star Wars Rogue Squadron type games wouldn’t run on it, but most others have.
@@DoubleDguitarwierd. I’ve seen that emulated before on video with Mac mini with no issue. Better than some cheap windows pcs even. Although windows you could get a pretty good performance for around the same price
I've been running Citra on my M1 Macbook Air for a while now, and it has been great emulating 3ds games. There is a specific ARM build for it that someone made, but I found it too buggy (it would randomly crash too often). So I have been just using the old Mac build and running it through Rosetta and it has been great.
How much of what he talks about in this video for mac mini, can be used on an M1 macbook air? If most of it works, and/or works with minor tweaks, I might try loading up a bunch of the emulators he talks about in here on my own M1 macbook air and save myself $600 for a new mac :P :D
@@IronDad-ml3wq M2 is only about 10-15% faster than the M1 chip, but your Air will definitely get a bit hotter than a Macbook Pro or Mac Mini and thus may throttle. Give it a shot! :)
All of it, I have an M1 Air with 16GB of RAM and it runs everything up to and including PS3 games really well. PCSX2 has support for the Metal API now too which really makes a difference if you want to emulate PS2 games. AetherSX2 was more performant but the developer isn't working on it anymore so I went back to PCSX2 and found they've updated and streamlined it hugely. @@IronDad-ml3wq
OpenEmu is amazing and honestly I prefer its design over a lot of the PC offerings. It's a better "out of the box" experience as well. Something like LaunchBox is really neat and customizable, but it can honestly feel overwhelming for users. OpenEmu is nice because you can just drag and drop ROMs and it'll scrape the information and allow you to boot seamlessly from its launcher (for supported emulators). I just wish they had more integration for 6th generation consoles.
Have you tried GNOME games? It is an amazing frontend
@@seadx6 I have not as I'm not much of a Linux guy, but I may see what it's about to get an idea. From a quick glance it looks similar to OpenEmu's design which I like.
@@f937r you can even add your Steam games and games from other launchers too
There haven’t been major updates to OpenEmu for a while, apparently people are having a lot of problems with it on Apple silicone. Still works brilliantly on my old intel Mac tho. I hope they’ve not abandoned it completely
I 100% agree . Its just sad that if I want to play PS2 games (and its a major one for me) I still have to go on Windows, but for all the other retro consoles, OpenEmu is all I need.
I haven't tried PCSX2, but AetherSX2 ran all of the games you showscased flawlessly out of the box. I'd consider using that over PCSX2.
yes. aethersx2 way better
I found your channel a couple of weeks ago and have been hooked. I've watched a bunch of your videos on retro handheld emulators. This guide is perfect for me as I have a Mac. While I've been able to run different emulators, it's always nice to find a guide that is using the same OS I'm using and is very detailed. Keep up the great work!
I have the Mac Mini M1 model that came out a couple of years ago. I like both Mac and PC for totally different reasons. Yeah, Macs aren't the best for gaming (though getting better) and Apple does have poor user upgradiblity and pricing. One thing I like though is that apple stuff just WORKS. It connects seamlessly and stuff transfers over without any issues. Like I may wanna upgrade my cheap mac-mini with a more powerful mac mini (in time) and I know I'll be able to transfer over all data in my sleep. Cuz it's Apple.
You’re the first person I’ve ever seen with a Mewithoutyou shirt. I’ve seen them plenty of times in our hometown of Philadelphia. Great video as well, but you already knew that. 👌
One of my favorite bands!
We’ll be like torches 🔥
Already have the base M2 Mac Mini. I use Dolphin on it already and it runs very well. One thing I'd like to mention is if you're a student or a teacher, you can get the base M2 Mac Mini for $499.
So much easier to drag apps out of the dock instead of using the context menu. Also, you can launch the app by ctrl- or right-clicking on the app and choosing Open (at least that worked up to Monterey, maybe they changed it in Ventura).
No AetherSX testing? Development stopped, but the executable is still available for download.
I didn't realize that they had a MacOS build until this morning, I tested it now and yeah it's great!
Hey, have you tried aethersx2 instead of pcsx2? The optimization is incredible, as I’m able to run many ps2 games at 4K on my m1 MacBook Air, and every one I’ve tested can do a stable 1440p 60fps (burnout 3, gt4, etc). A shame that people have harassed the developer to a point of shutting it down.
This is the comment I was looking for. A Mac emulation guide without mentioning the humongous work of aethersx2 would simply not be complete.
I just bought a refurbished M1 mac mini and I am excited to see what retro emulation I have fun with on it. Thanks for this timely (for me) video! The pricing for the M2 machines aren't so enticing when you earn and spend in Canadian dollars so I'll have to live vicariously through M2 owners to some extent. :).
The performance difference from M1 to M2 isn’t huge, to be honest. I have an M1 MacBook Air and it handles everything I throw at it. Enjoy your new computer!
Can’t stand our bs dollar when having to order from the states or even worse the uk.
Regarding Dolphin Stuttering, you can enable “Compile shaders before start” so it doesn’t stutter even on the first run
Would CEMU have this ability?
@@sc3ku yes
I remember seeing that wouldn’t be possible for more modern systems like the Wii U or the Switch, at least for now. But there is an alternative, there is databases of “pre-run” shaders (basically people who have ran the game and compiled shaders once who then share their shaders). I think I remember about a manager for ryujinx (ryusak) that automatically download shaders for the games you have, there might be something similar for cemu
I'm also a primary mac user so I'm glad to see this :D I really hope Apple catches up with the gaming cause there is a huge audience of people who would like to have one or two devices to enjoy the games they love most :)
Out of all the retro game review channels I watch, you are the only that shows your face, and I really like it. I think it helps the audience feel more connected with you. Love your content, keep it up!
Wow, thanks!
I’m of the opposite opinion, not because I don’t like seeing Russ’ face (although I think he looked much better - younger, too! - without a beard 😅), but because every second spent on his face is one second stolen from showing us what he’s talking about.
In fact, what I like about his channel is how efficient it is: to the point (except for cat breaks, but let those pass 😂), no frills and, thank goodness, no stupid faces.
@@suntorytimes1 What a befittingly odd opinion
@@suntorytimes1 I agree with you
I absolutely loved this. While more than half was review as I already casually enjoy retro on my MBP M1, the remainder was pure gold. Time to complete my retro arcade setup! 😎
“It’s about the size of six sticks of butter”
All I could think of was “Americans will use anything but the metric system!” 😂
Nintendo Won’t like this Video
Ps Can you play skylanders saga and pokemon in this way ?
I’m not particularly into console emulation, do you need to pay the games?
would love to see you test an i3 12th gen mini pc or optiplex if compatible. Would be cool to see how it stacks up to the i5s you have done.
If you want an optiplex vid, he briefly did a demo in the botocera video with his sons pc. (It's an optiplex)
At 27:46 he mentions that the dock always pops up when quitting a game. Has anyone found a Mac OS setting to stop that from happening? My controller doesn’t have a home button so I have to grab a keyboard every time.
I'm emulating PS2 games on my M1 mac, and emulating Nintendo Games on my iPhone.
which emulator would you use for playing old pc games from 90s like need for speed or fifa etc??
For Cemu I would recommend turning on async compilation, it completely eliminates stuttering
Yep, Cemu definitely has async compilation.
Unfortunately async compilation is not an option in the Mac version of Cemu, you can toggle it on but it will give you an error that says it is currently not working. The graphics driver doesn't support the necessary Vulkan extension.
@@RetroGameCorps oh I had no idea, that sucks
“It’s about as big as six sticks of Kerrygold butter”
Americans will use anything other than the metric system 😂
What’s crazy is that iPads have this exact chip. If we could side load these emulators it could be the best mobile emulation platform. Frustrating to be locked out due to the App Store
Technically possible. People side load gba emulators on the iphone. Now its up to people wanting to, honestly
@@marcofontinha6296 yeah I’d love to see RPCS3 ported to iOS because clearly the chip can handle it, which is crazy impresssive
Yes, I'd love to see a full-fledged MacOS option on the M-chip iPads, I understand why Apple wants to separate those user experiences but it would be nice to have a super-powered emulation tablet without having to be constrained by iPadOS apps and sideloading.
Retro arch can be sideloaded easily along with dolphin , delta, ppsspp and a few others. You can easily do most of these on the iPads and iPhones
This why I LOVE my Galaxy Z Fold4. This is an emulator beast.
Did you create this device?
aether sx2 is way better than PCSX2 best ps2 emulator for mac
@@1seb11how so? Can you elaborate?
@@lwwells it's no longer being updated
@@punns643 That doesn’t mean that it is worse. How is PCSX2 better?
@@1seb11 That’s good to hear. Thank you!
The Aether dev is also a massive tool
I loved openemu and I kinda wish we had something like it on PC as it was intuitive.
But be very careful. macOS dropped support for running 32-bit x86 binaries a while ago (anything from Catalina onwards. Catalina was truly a cursed macOS). I saw TF2 pop up when you were showing the steam store for macOS, and it certainly wont run on the newer M-series machines. You can use crossover or something else for virtualisation, but it’s hit and miss. I’ve been really enjoying the work of mac source ports, whose website you can look up. Some serious classics are getting ported to Apple Silicon & there are more every couple of weeks.
I play 32bits PC games using Wineskin, DeusEx, System Shock 2, Thief 2 etc... Pretty easy to setup.
That’s my gripe why I can’t be fully on board the apple train. I have a iPhone 13 but know one day it won’t be able to update apps while a android from the same year can use even legacy old apps. Same with windows for the most part.
You're a Mac user?
My condolences.
Im not sure if someones pointed it out yet but at 7:50, that is not Shadow of the tomb raider, its actually Rise
What a great video, huge thanks to you! I've been messing around with the Dolphin emulator on my MacBook Air M2 (16 GB Ram) and tested Resident Evil 4, The Simpsons: Hit & Run, Gun, Super Mario Sunshine and it's pretty impressive. My device never gets heated, games are running smoothly. And OpenEmu is just a great way to play GBA and Sega games easily. I love how most of the emulators works great on M1-M2. Soon I'll try Cemu for the WiiU games. Thanks for the video again, I'm sure it'll help lots of people just to get opinion about emulating games on Mac!
How did cemu run for you?
Is your Air the 8-core or 10-core?
Anyone having an issue with ES-DE and PS2?. On game load, I'm getting an error saying "Couldn't find emulator "PCSX2", Has it been properly installed" on load. Happens with all emulator options?
Did you ever figure this out? Have the same issue
@@panda72418I’ve had no luck. Haven’t looked at sorting it out for a couple of months though.
Great guide! I really considered getting a Mini, but the exchange rate didn't make the price as attractive in Japan. Bought a used powerful desktop PC (Ryzen 7 5800X + RTX 3070) locally, but hope to replace my underwhelming Windows laptop with a MacBook someday since I like working in both environments.
Maybe I'll get a Mac Mini for my mom 🤔
Actually for 3DS you can run an experimental version of Citra and runs pretty well.
Man roms gaming has got to be the biggest waste off time it's never plug and play most the roms don't even work
Yeah, it sucks. Whether it is Windows, SteamOS, Batocera, MacOS, Android… you’re gonna need some spare time….
There have been successful experiments using Asahi Linux + Proton + x86-on-ARM emulation to play x86 Windows Steam games on a Mac. It looks like it's within reach!
I've been following that a little bit and yeah, it looks exciting!
Recently got a mac mini to try for the first time and I liked it so much that now I use it as my primary pc and then I stream my pc games with moonlight.
Openemu is the best emulator program for mac
Why do you need to emulate Nintendo switch games a game like Mario Odyssey I find it all the time posted up on Marketplace for $10 I saw a first-generation switch the other day for $80 I mean I understand what you're trying to show but it's so much work when you can just buy a console that plays it
If people have the time. Emulators are great…
@@chronology556 oh I'm aware emulators are awesome but the Nintendo switch is also awesome and it's cheap you can find used ones all over Marketplace for next to nothing and the games are cheap to if you look around and get deals why just buy the console spend the money on the games
It’s important to keep in mind that this thing is $600 and offers performance similar to a gaming PC that costs $1000+. Considering you can possibly catch these on sale or refurbed, you could be looking at a sub-$500 emulation machine that’s only going to improve over time.
That’s an insane deal.
I’m curious if the M1 machines do as well as this as the GPU didn’t change too much between generations.
That's a good question, I'm not sure how an M1 would perform but I've heard great things as well. And those can be found for much cheaper right now!
I think emulation is mostly cpu dependent so I don’t think the gpu’s being similar matters unless you’re trying to play pc games
For a hundred dollars less than the cheapest Mac Mini, you can buy a Steam Deck with twice the RAM, twice the onboard storage, (upgradable storage, too) better support for Steam games (naturally) and better support for emulation. Plus, it's battery-powered, has its own screen and its own built-in gamepad controls. A Mac mini's a fine general-purpose computer, but it's no gaming powerhouse.
The 8bitdo Ultimate is the best controller.
PS3 alone on this thing is very well enough for me to have this
mewithoutYou shirt out of nowhere!
Thanks. The DVD drive on my old PS2 packed up years ago and I was planning on soft-modding it. PCXS2 works like a charm so far!
I didn't have any luck with getting PS2 to work on RetroArch though. Seems there's still no working core for Mac Silicon yet only an experimental one, (Play!) and for whatever reason I couldn't get it to create PS2 playlist.
16:06 I would guess that the Fighting Vipers game is actually running in 480i and the emulator is only doing a simple weave deinterlacing. I've seen this happen with some ps1 emulators on games that run in 480i. I would guess that either rendering at a higher resolution or if possible, changing the deinterlacing method in emulator settings to something different, would both fix the "issue". Not really an issue though, just a weird quirk that makes the visuals look different since we are not playing on CRT TVs anymore.
Yes you were right, using CRT royale shaders fixed it. forums.libretro.com/t/beetle-saturn-core-has-strange-dithering-scanlines-effects/22355
Using retroarch for me was so frustrating even with your guide it is such a hustle. Why they can't make easy out of box "default" experience for everybody who just want to play and not dive deep into the settings, updates, cores etc...
YOUR MEWITHOUTYOU SHIRT! I need it!
Not much has changed when building a "modern" PC, same layout, same kind of box, same huge waste of space and power.... LOL, dont get me wrong, I have them and work on them, but rely on my Macs.
Who wants EmuDeck for Mac?
Yes please!
Not first
They finally updated OpenEmu in the New Year 2024. Is it a revival? Or is it just a last goodbye? Looking forward to investigating further!
When the first Mac Mini with m1 came out I was able to download games from the App Store that I would play on my iPad and it was smooth while also multitasking(because the iPad still does not support true multitasking like a computer), but I had to return it because at the time I did not need it. Years later I decide to buy it for keeps and then I find out that a lot of the apps that was downloadable were now gone, so returned it. Useless.
I've been using OpenEmu for 10 years and have Retroarch on a modded Playstation Classic (mini). I never emulated anything more modern than PS2 or DS games.
Now after watching this I'm considering a Mac Mini and then building a gaming station/arcade cabinet look with a 32 - 55inch LCD or OLED.
I've been thinking about this a lot since the M chips dropped, but the upgrade slant of their lineup these days really keeps me from doing anything.
nothing in their lineup feels like a good buy because it's all a couple hundred dollars away from a much better system. and I'm not going to buy the top tier stuff, so it all just feels like a bad move.
If the ssd's were user replaceable I would jump on it but I don't want to support a company that treats whole computers as disposable trash meant for landfills. Their anti consumer repair policies are the cancer of the modern silicone world
The kerrygold comparison gets me every time.
Once Launch Box is available, I will start building an emulation machine with Apple Silicon chip.
You can even change apple loading logo with emulatonstation logo :D Also, you can completely disable the dock in terminal
So glad I found this channel. Loving your content, great work!
Sucks what happened with Aethersx2, PS2 emulation on a Mac was perfect with that emulator, but ever since the release on Ryujinx, I've pushed majority of my switch and ps3 emulation back to my Mac instead of steam deck.
The 40mb hard drives days back in the late 90s and early 2000s…. Little off on storage of that era
You should rather use AetherSX2 for PS2, the emulation there works much better than pcsx2 in my experience
note on the quietness/thermals - apple is focusing on being quiet like A LOT. they have some weird settings on this. i have the m1 macbook pro and i can reach 76C without the fans kicking in. and i mean not that they are quiet, i mean they are turned off. i think they turn on after 80C or something like that, which is kind of ridiculous. i guess if the chip is ok with such temperatures this is ok with the desktop versions, like the mac mini, but the laptop versions, if you hold them in your lap, its getting REALLY hot. so i downloaded the Macs Fan Control app and put a custom fan curve.
My iMac m1 gets 90ºC using simple iOS apps. Not macOS apps, no, i mean very simple iOS apps downloaded from the appstore. And using VMs too, like opening edge with parallels. Kinda weird. It goes from 45º to 90º, no in between, the same goes for the fans, they are either completely silent or PS4 airplane mode, lol.
@@xeienar hm... without any cooling (passive and active) it's easy for a cpu to jump in temp. with addition of the stupid fan curve they have, my guess is either the passive cooling is way too weak, or maybe the thermal paste is not working.
i would suggest downloading the macs fan control and put a custom setting for the fan to start at 45 or so. if it still does the same, then maybe there is a problem with the passive cooling. the fan itself is stupidly set without that app, so it's normal to jump like that when it reach 90
I have it set like that, and it usually stay at about 1400 rpm which is still pretty quiet.
Love the mewithoutYou shirt!
Russ, I am having retroarch issues when my roms are on external drives (Macbook M2).. If the external drive disconnects, then reconnects, the drive/volume name changes within Retroarch, where as in finder, it stays the same. Once this drive/vol name changes, Retroach can't find my roms, until I reboot the Macbook pro. So for example, I have an external Drive called "RomDrive".. I scan the folders for roms and retroach works fine. If "RomDrive" disconnects/Reconnects, in MACOS FInder, the drive is still "Rom Drive". But Retroach says it cannot find anything roms on "Rom Drive".. but if I look in retroarch, there is now a "Rom Drive 1".. and RA shows my roms there"... have you had any experience with this on MACOS (apple silicon)? Haven't noticed them on any of my RA windows installations... Thanks... you do great work
Just wanted to drop another alternative for storage. Get yourself something like Asus Tuf A1, and WD_Black SN850X 2TB and bam, bobs your uncle.
Wasn’t the Amiga using the same chip as Apple computers back in the day? They’re two systems I like, planning to buy a Mac mini to replace my desktop so that its not an all in one.
You haven’t mentioned crossover or parallels
Yes I would be interested in that as well, for VM usage for gaming. +1
Any point in revisiting Mac emulation for retro gaming? You always do fantastic videos, Russ. You’re my go to channel on emulation, hands-down.
Though, someone here may have already mentioned it, I must admit... I almost wanted to watch the pain by you using the pop up, "Remove from Dock" for every app...
LOL
But, Im not a Sadist....
Drag from the dock, wait a moment, and it will remove the shortcut from the Dock.
13:05 if you right-click/control+click on the app it will then give you the "Open" option even from an un-trusted developer. Saves a trip to settings. Great video!
my plan is to buy one with more ram as an all purpose machine so i'm looking forward to play and work hard on an impressive beast, the fact the entry model only has 8gb and still performs that well is mindboggeling.
I noticed some issues with Ryujinx mainly on xenoblade chronicles 2 and 3 where it was a bit dodgy at best and that is with running on a macbook pro M3 Pro with 36gb of ram. Now I haven't really tried any of the other games but I will try them out later as I do own all of these games for the switch as well.
Now that Parallels uses the native hardware on Apple Silicon computers, there have been good results running PC games within that on M1/M2 Mini's. Fancy testing it ? 😆
there is no such thing like "background in windows". there is no challenge in that. "background in linux", "background in unix", different story.
i could not archive that in Breath of the wild. It gets me just 20 , 14 fps... But my is de Mac Mini M1 8gb . Mario kart and Donkey kong Tropical freeze is ok.
My biggest complaint is the bluetooth connection to Wiimote's. It worked fine on BigSur but since then it asks you to input the pairing number which doesn't work. Any ideas?
Being able to play Zelda Windwaker HD is worth it alone. But I’m also pumped to try out Boom Blox with Switch joy on controllers as Wii controllers.
Really cool video. I wasn't expecting to be, but I have to admit I'm impressed. At $499, this Mac Mini costs roughly 10% of my desktop workstation and probably gets about 70% of the emulation experience. Excluding fringe things like high refresh rate, extreme graphics mods, and brute-forcing poorly optimized games, this thing largely goes toe-to-toe with my system. Considering it's a machine that's 10% of the price, 10% of the size, and 10% of the power-draw, its a pretty compelling value.
Great video. But, it sounds like Emulation Station would do everything for me. Did I understand that correctly? For example, if I do not want to location ANY emulators at all, will Emulation station install all of the emulators and bios as well?
Of course, my favorite handheld reviewer also has great taste in music...(YouWithoutMe)!!!
the "open anyway" for unsupported devs/apps can also be done with just right click on the icon and open.
Fairly new to channel but never knew you had a face...lol ...... Good to put a face to the great content! Keep it up.
Any idea i can expect the same results on macbook pro m2 8gb ram?
Im really scraping to justify my recent purchase🙄
I’m quite enticed by the low price point along with the 2TB external SSD. I’d use someone’s college info to get that sweet sweet discount. One of my fave things about your content Russ is how you provide cost effective alternatives & solutions to expensive gear and/or tech.