How I sort Gold, Palladium, Silver and Precious Metals after depopulating boards
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- Gold recovery IC Chips & Gold Pins, Precious metals like silver, palladium, tantalum etc all sorted into groups ready for processing.
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This is incredibly long but one of the most important videos one needs to watch if interested in urban gold. Highly recommended! .
Gold corner BGA chips, have most of the bonding wires in the top black part. Many don't even bother with the bottom green half, despite the small bit of visible gold. Certainly the tops are processed separately and among the highest yielding materials. Mast ash them, rinse with water and then pan out the pure gold bonding wires.
Hi Ben, For some of the things you're not sure if they are brass or gold. Just a suggestion. I would get a gold acid test kit. you can rub the piece on the stone and find out if it even tests out to be gold of any karat. It could keep you from throwing out any gold. Really enjoy your video's sir. I always learn so much. You know what you're doing. Thanks for sharing
Vintage white ceramic and gold chips are collectible and some are pushing $1000 these days. Careful what you scrap.
i just started scrapping all the crap my mother has kept in her garage for 20years. This video is extremely helpful in explaining every piece that you can find on a board.
Much thanks!
Bake the MLCCs for several hours in a slow fire. It makes the ceramic very crumbly. You can then powder them easily. I'm doing test batches of test-tube quantities of components, determining what solutions are best for each board component.
The black Top of the BGA have Gold bonding Wire in it the blacktop is the most valuable thing on the whole BGA Chip
Can't believe he doesn't know that the real gold is in the BGA tops. Video should be taken down or edited. Really bad info 😞
I don't see it but i'm happy to be wrong for once :)
It varies but from what I've seen yeild wise in ewaste and precious metal refining group (great group by the way very helpful) your looking at an avg recovery of approx 1 gram of gold per 100 gram of black non heatsink BGA tops (the ones with the heat sink can contain gold but it's a lower recovery rate based on total weight because of the copper), newer chips have switched to copper bonding wires, one of the members did a refine and got the high yeild and another did a bigger batch and got nothing at all but the black tops have the highest potential for the highest yeilding item even over gold plated fingers and pins minus mill spec, hope it helps
I was shocked to find david icke's channel removed, I guess the truth is hard to handle
SELL THEM ALL BEFORE PRICE FALLS
I've learned alot from you videos on every subject from Copper to Ewaste scrapping. Separating everything to the basic value. Thanks keep it up.
I love love love you cable processing videos. I would watch them all day long.
Hi Ben, thank you for a new feature-length explanatory video. 😂👍 Stay healthy and best wishes from Bearlin !! 😉
Ben, thanks for this video. Super informative and I look forward to seeing more!
Ben....ty once again for breaking it all down.....love all your videos....don't ever lose confidence in yourself when shooting these. YOU ROCK!
Another awesome video! Looking forward to street scrapping! Thanks.
Another informative video - thanks Ben
Hey Ben 👋🏼 glad to see you got your workshop in order, and hope your doing well. I’ve been needing a way to make money during the lockdown so I decided to take the leap of faith and do some street scrapping. I’ve been riding around on my bike with 3-4 grocery bags of electronics on my handlebars😅. Definitely jealous that you have hard rubbishy days in Australia... here in Canada I’ve got to look in all the bins and most of the time people don’t bother separating their garbage from their hard recyclables.
Absolutely the best video I've seen for a beginner like myself! Very explanatory and very helpful! Thanks for this!
Very helpful and informative video. I'm learning quite a bit about my wore out or non working electronics. I have wanted to this as a serious hobby for a couple of years now.
No Joke, even though I operate an ewaste center, I learn new things from you every video, keep it up Ben!
Great tutorial
Learning so much, thanks for sharing
Thanks for sharing this information with us
Hey . Thank you so much for that very helpful video 😊
Great Video Ben Keep Bringing The Videos Dude 👍👍
This is a great video with lots of info!
Great video thank you for sharing
Really good information. Thank you. I am collecting everything I find for free and separate it - maybe one day I will recover it in to 24K ingot
great instructive video fox
THAT WAS VERY INFORMATIVE INDEED - THANK YOU !!!!
Gold pins are easy. Just make sure all the solder is cut off. Weak nitric will destroy everything else in them except the gold.
I still recover all the copper, cuz it's fun to watch the crystals grow off iron, AND I can melt it down into long tapering wedges I use for silver recovery... and then recover the copper again.
THEN you can recover some of your nitric acid by merely boiling the iron nitrate solution! Iron nitrate decomposes right around boiling water temp, so in a sealed set-up, you just pipe the orange NO2 through an aquarium bubbler in a long water column, and voila! Weak nitric again you can use for stripping base metals!
I've been hoping for one of these sorting or depopulating videos!!
Thanks Ben!!
Have a GREAT Day!!!
Awesome video!
This is awesome! Thanks man!
Super interesting thanks Ben .............. Thumbs Up
I'm sure you already know this but if you get whole undamaged old purple or white ceramic & gold top/pin chips... they are always going to be worth more sold to collectors than for the gold value alone.
Wow! what a system!
Yes I also picked up on that, the plastic tops on your bag have the gold bonding wire in 2nd pile from right on top row. Great video
It's very interesting to sit and watch to see what the value and what's in them
When you close your eyes at night, I bet you see billions of little circuit parts! Lol!
Great video! Thank you for the detailed information!
Check if you can sell the chip for more than the income from processing one, there are some "retro ones".
Yea! Hey from the USA! 🌺🌺
great vid thanks for the helpful advice. take care
Great video Ben this is exactly how I sort my components as I strip all my pcb's. I just don't get near the volume you do unfortunately but I hope to. I am considering starting to buy E-scrap to see if I can start pulling in more volume. Just have to check to see if my current license will cover buying scrap for metal recovery. Because our license covers gifts and goodies we make and sell. Government licenses can be tricky in the buisness at least here in the USA and certain states. I should be ok as I will be turning scrap metal into gift bullion bars to sell but who knows.
Hi Ben! Later in this video you showed some things that I was really wondering about (around 1:21:00). I thought that perhaps some of those jacks, or those little pins, could be Beryllium Copper. It would be great if you did a video on the subject of distinguishing all your BeCu components. Cheers!!!
Twenty minutes in and I've already learned more about IC Chips than I've been able to learn on the entire rest of TH-cam. Kudos man! I recycle ewaste as a hobby and you've been my #1 source of knowledge since day one
👍the collection is coming along I think the long piece of gold plate looks like the end of a scart lead👍
cool Ben and those roud thingy mixed with your crystal oscillator are transistors 👍😀👍
Thanks 👍
IAM not a scrapper but that was very interesting, thanks 🤠🖍️😎🇮🇪🚜
Love your channel
Really awesome video Ben! Thanks for all the knowledge. By the way, to process the "low grade gold pins" use a mixture of vinegar and table salt. That concoction is strong enough to dissolve the steel and the rest of base metals, leave the gold behind and cheap enough not to waste the good acids on that kind of stuff.
Ben i highly advise you not to throw Away The Black top from bgas All The bonding Wire are in the black tops look it up
You are right I was about to comment that also there is about 12 grams of gold per kilo of tops
I don't but i'm yet to be convinced there much there
@@eWasteBen Hi Ben check out some of omegageek64 videos (th-cam.com/video/PABWtihbKEI/w-d-xo.html). He processes BGA chips for gold and considers the green fiberboard part to be almost worthless. I think he's found that the black plastic part of the BGA contains about 1.125% gold by weight and considers it to be some of the best gold recovery in e-waste.
Well Ben, I don't do this kinda stuff. When I did salvage scrap it was for the base metals. However, I do realize, to each their own. You certainly enjoy yourself, and make a good living for yourself. Now, to me, that's all that matters, heah? I really enjoy channels like yours. Thanks for taking me on your life's journey. But please, more sit downs with the chooks!! Have a great week!👍👍
no worries barry, will try and bring the chooks into it more often
new subscriber, not a scrapper but your videos are fantastic. I can tell that you planned it out a lot before filming and put a lot of work into your videos.
Awsome video my friend
Thumbs up for Ben! He is doing a great job. Feel free to email him for information as he replies and gives you good and valid information!
Ben did you know that if you look at a I.C. from the end you'll see two little gold dots. I believe it is also gold. One day you where holding a tool you didn't know what it was for. It looks like a 3" long silver color rake. If you remember what it looked like it's for straighting the fingers on E prom, old style processer with little fingers. And one last thing, the gold corner on some processer is for showing #1 pin. Love your show learning a lot. Thought I would help you. Bill Opstrup
Great video
You sir are awesome. Thank you for sharing what you know as how you flow 👌🏼👌🏼
Great video that’s a lot of gold
The solder beads beneath many of the chips are sometimes a tricky tin-bismuth type. Dissolving it in nitric produces insoluble, white bismuth oxynitrate which forms when the initially soluble bismuth nitrate heats up.
Very informative. I actually like to use a good chisel to remove the pins of the green cpus. no heat involved so no sticking together.
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All chips use gold bond wires. They use it exclusively as connectivity and the malibility or bend ability is critical. I know this as I was in the semiconductor industry. Silver and gold are the metals used in semiconductor chips. As well as palladium, platinum, copper. Nickel is used to stop corrosion.
If those CPU's are still good, you'd make more selling them than the tiny amount of gold in them.
999 Dusan does a lot of refining of these items and shows how much yield comes from different items, i.e. magnetic vs non-magnetic MLCCs and all kinds of chips and circuit board things.
Yes i've been subscribed to Dusan for a long time
Yes, I think learned about him from you a few years ago👍 I’m impressed how much stuff you get Ben and how you organize it all. That helps us sort out the little things.
For those of you that want to see 999 Dusan refine just about every component, check him out. Some stuff is good yield, some stuff is poor. He must get Nitric acid way cheaper to play around with it. But he’s pretty thorough and shows what is worth keeping.
Dusan is on my to do list to promote him a bit, not everyone is into PM recovery but those that are would find him helpful, at least he says it how it is and that's important
Very good 👏👏👏
Very good explanation brother !thanks
Hi Ben,
Thanks for this interesting guide! I have a question/suggestion. I have noticed that jumpers (at least the onces on HDD's) seem to contain a nice gold plated metal inside, do you collect them also? Further, the inside of the HDD, the leads up to the heads and the bonding wires(?) of the little pickup chips on the heads seem to contain gold as well, correct?
Kindly.
Bas
This would have been a PERFECT idea for content on a live stream Ben.
Just sayin mate, I'd love to crack a brew and pick your brain on E Waste gold recovery through live chat and I bet Im not alone here, especially during the lockdown.
I don't really know how to live stream at all, I must look into it but seems complicated using the gopro
@@eWasteBen Thanks for the reply Ben. I figure if i just keep on keepin on you might eventually give it a shot lol "Squeaky wheel gets the grease" and all that.
I get your concerns about streaming. But the best thing about being here on TH-cam is its a place of limitless learning =D I've added a link to a very useful video to get you started with streaming using a GoPro. th-cam.com/video/2wy5LkLrvxU/w-d-xo.html These guys take it from newbie to pro levels,. The channel has great information on how to get started as well as how to improve your set up as you go.
Learn something new Nice.
Thanks Ben. Great info. It is my understanding that the black plastic tops/caps on the gold corner BGA chips (Your #2 class), have the majority of the gold bonding wires. In other words, the black plastic tops have a much greater amount of gold in them than the gold flashing on the green fiber part underneath the black caps. In this video you say that the flashing on the green fiber part is where the majority of gold is on this type of BGA. Could you clarify, or someone else comment?
That's what we've been told, yeah, but I just don't see it in most of them. I could be totally wrong so keep it all and you won't go wrong.
Youre right. The fibre is useless. The gold is in the ceramic top
PLEASE SEND ME ALL UR BARREN PLASTIC TOPS!!!!! LOL. seriously, very large mass of gold in the black tops vs. the enig flashing on the green fiber. Long solid bonding wires from center to edge of plastic!
My old vinyl siding snips cut off gold fingers really neatly from the fiber boards vs breaking them off with pliers.
Thank you.
Ya process the silver and tantalum NOW, and keep the purified bars. Then when those spikes in price happen, you can capitalize INSTANTLY before the price falls again. Plan DECADES in advance. That's how I went from having nothing as a child, to being completely financially-secure today!
What you call IDE style connectors are IDC - Insulation Displacement Connector
Hey Ben how you doing there. Great video very very helpful. I was wondering do you have any of those pins for sale
impressive!!
Ben please do a gold melt. Look on youtube how to do it!!
Breliant as usual
Thank You Thank You Thank You
The low grade metal stuff is going to take a while to process, perhaps you could already start processing. I would throw it in a large (closed) bucket with a low concentration acid and let that eat away the base metals for a couple months. Would be interesting to see what happens.
Good video ben, I hope you the best in these times with the virus and everything.
Thanks.
Wow, there is certainly a lot to what you do Ben! Super informative video !
Would love to buy some of your gold plated connectors from your too hard basket. I could use them for my electronics cables and connectors etc. I am sydney though..😔
Keep up the good work! Because of your videos I kept a lot of old processors and now I had the time to sort them out. The best ones I have sourced probably are thoe Intel Pentium Pro ceramic with the gold metal cap. :)
Good video I feel I have thrown away many valuable components
Amazing to see ben its not my thing to depopulate boards i only take removable ic chips for fun cant wait that you give it a try to extracte gold from something
Those small gold band crystal oscillators are small but as good as any high level ceramic cpu, I pay good money for them so if you wanted to pick them off, i'd buy them no problem
@@eWasteBen ill see what i can do now that i have my little warehouse im goeing for a gouverment certificate to be a licenced pc scrapper
@ 1:05:01 those pin can be submerged in duilited nitric acid bath and as the base metal is corroded the gold will float to the top of the bath in the exact form it was on the pins so that the gold looks just like the shape of the pins . Same way with fingers the gold plating floats to the top of the bath and the tabs of gold plating remain intact like they were on the circuit board
If you ever decide to heve your tantalum capacitors refined Id love the oppotunity to do it. I refine as a hobby and youd be welcome to 100% of the results. Im more after the recovery rate
I'll keep it in mind, Thanks. From my understanding the Tantalum recovery rate is about 22% of gross weight, plus a little silver
WOW, just wow, I recently got into this hobby (hopefully business), because I recently figured out that this is what my grandpa used to do this in the 80's, 90's so I have quite a lot of boards, and already selected parts, now my job is to find out what's what and learn as I do which I actually quite enjoy, and after reading so much and watching so many videos, this video of yours is just the top of them all. Awesome job man!
Got a quick question, I keep finding this big ceramic capacitors unlike anything I can find online, without any signs on them, and no way of knowing any info about them just that they are at least 30 years old, would this mean that I can be sure that they got palladium in them? How to tell if they do? In my country no one even wants to see them to tell me what they are, let alone buy them so I have difficulties in my sorting's, thanks, and keep up with the amazing videos, I will literally recommend you to anyone who is into this for the rest of my life, BIG THUMBS UP!
I can help you
The metal cap of the gold band crystal oscillators intrigues me. I've been toying with them. It's layered with multiple metals, and the final plate does not dissolve in nitric, but isn't aluminum.
Do you know ano numbering of capacitors that contain palladium and where can i buy
a lot of good information here. you know, a good one to pick gold out of, a lot of microwave equipment, very high frequency stuff.l in another way to make money, keep an eye on older chips you are using as scrap. I've been looking for a lot of old chips from the 70s, and I'm sure there's many other people there doing the same thing. I don't know what you get for scrapping integrated circuits, but getting from .50 cents to $10+, sounds like a hell of a good deal to me.
love it
Nice 👌
You should make a video about how its made.
Black plastic piece on the north south bridge chips are the most important part. That is where most of the gold is.
What are generally the devices with the better common boards to pick up?
Tank you
Wauu good job
What is thé méthode do you use to extract gold or silver from oscillator ?
icb chips from tv boards are they good to take for silver recovery