Ok so the frame rate issue is a render error, sorry about that. Was hoping i'd be able to fix it today, but you can't do anything to help that out on a Uploaded youtube video, and I don't want to take it down and re-upload. Here's a smooth, normal version of the video you can watch, if the issue is too annoying for you! th-cam.com/video/hY4vWD0cYlg/w-d-xo.html
@Marc Jackson that's nothing we poked japan with the biggest sticks we had in the bag until they fought back , why does shit like that happen? because America is gullible and the satanic banker cabal loves war that's why that happens . and real information runs at a premium and it cost blood as a rule because death cult satanist are running shit. like the wizard from Oz. not bull shit facts. so your point is? blood is their wage because of their belief in a boogie man that grants them what ever they want. that runs all the way back to predated written history. you gonna solve the problem all by your self ? i've been at people for the cause most of my adult life, let "me" inform you. i've had very little effect, and now that censorship has been normalized here in the states good luck with that, who the fuck you think is running youtube now? everybody and i mean everybody with a public face has a handler behind the scenes. and the powers that be are not interested in the truth unless it serves them. but you can be sure they will put their cant on it. fine tuning the lean.
Nicholas Brown rubies are just aluminum oxide. Aluminum oxide is made all the time in thermite reactions, but it will never produce large crystals that would be worth anything. Sorry, no quick ruby making machine here
I did that once with standard thermite, blew the top off sending half the un burnt fuel in the air, then blew out the bottom which was used, never did find the top, moral of the story, don't use sugar chlorate as an ignition source in an unreinforced container
One brazilian channel tried the tiktok's matches in a bottle reaction. It went very very wrong, the bottle chain reacted way faster than it should and blew glass shards over the whole crew. They got fine after healthcare, but that was some heavy handled experiment, terrible way to end a year that was
Yeah, I just wanted to bitch about it... Maybe your camera was skipping frames because of the heat? I know some do, but I haven't seen it happen for quite some time (unless you count people trying to shoot videos with their phones...)
@@mortlet5180 I'm pretty sure 40C is actually outside the operating range of most consumer electronics, and it was out in the sun, filming thermite. Kind of a worst-case scenario.
@@Teth47 I don't think that camera was the issue though... I don't know what he uses to film when just walking around and pointing at things, but that is the one which I think made his editing software decide on a 'lowest common denominator' framerate. As an electrical engineer myself, you might hear people say "nah, 40C is fine as the electronic chips are specc'd to operate up to 85C". While this is technically partially true (most consumer devices will use chips with the 'standard' max temp of 85C), the absolute maximum ratings in a datasheet is for the die itself (the physical piece of silicon inside its package) and at 0 power dissipation (most devices are derated to 0W dissipation at their max temp. Derating often begins at 25C already, where their maximum power dissipation is specc'd.). So you're going to start thermal throttling a lot sooner, because at 40C you've already lost 40C-20C/(85C-25C) = 1/3 of the thermal headroom you had at 'room temperature'.
I love the hierarchy of flammables that you have to use: a flint (or an electric spark) to light a lighter to light a sparkler to light magnesium to light the thermite.
For better yield you might use clay flower pots with holes in the bottom, covered with aluminium foil and fitting clay lids to set the reaction of in, and some other ceramic to catch the products. That's how my chemistry teacher made a really solid iron nugget once.
With the vanadium being fairly dense you could perhaps smash all the glass/ceramic/slag up fine and then pan it... you might get any aluminium bits to go out with the other waste
In case you didn't know, they put some kind of weird polish on aluminum foil in the US, you have to burn it off to form the oxide and then convert it back in a kiln
I shredded my grinders blades once when I was trying to grind up some electronic scrap I had burned down. I noticed something was wrong when nothing was moving anymore and then I noticed the blades were completely gone. Was crazy.
Should have preheated the bottle with a torch before igniting that, might not have broken. Vanadium is awesome, and I had no idea you can make thermite from vanadium pentoxide, I used to have a couple ounces of it, wish I had known before I got rid of it. Great video as always. I have a few clusters of dendritic vanadium crystals for my element collection, they are beautiful stuff.
Use a small and thick terracotta pot with a lid (secured down), and small vents to release pressure but big enough to release most of the sparks. I think you might get better chunks. Also using more of your mixture would probably create a better thermal mass to provide more time for the metal to flow together. Or look into metal casting containment and preform your reaction in an inverted cone shape mold. Just a theory, I'm not an expert, just going off some of the other work I've seen done and their results. Good luck.
Would nighthawkinlight's starlight recipe work to resist the thermite reaction, contain the slag and be very cheap. You could also mold the starlight to whatever shape you wanted
Can't agree more on that , especially usefull if you trying to break something that is shatters as a glass when you don't want a lot of tiny sharp pieces laying all around.
I have no idea how I ended up on your channel, and I have no chemistry background (been a solid 8 years since grade 12 chemistry), but I enjoy the shit out of your vids, my dude. Keep blowing shit up and I'll keep watching.
We got explosions and fire! This is why we come here! I liked the analysis and hypothesizing as to how to slow the reaction. I have tried to do the same for manganese because it reaches and exceeds the Mn boiling point in a Mn thermite reaction.
if you used a borosilicate boiling tube at like 3/4 the heat you could get it with a blow torch , almost glowing , then dump everything in ,i think that would conatin it better , and would avoid thermal shock if you time it right
My mom used to make porcelain dolls, making her own molds of plaster, off a master, and then pouring "slip" into the mold, letting it set for a bit, ten fifteen minutes or so, then pouring the slip back in the bottle, letting the mold cure overnight, leaving a doll head, or body, whatever, about 2-3 mm thick hollow part, that would get fired to green, then finished, painted what ever, and hard fired. You could do the same with a bottle, say, as the master, and do the thermite in a ceramic cast mold of it, as was used for thermite in welding rail, and steam boat cranks, on side-wheelers, a century ago. I expect that would contain the blast and allow a good coalescing. I really like thermite, it's so useful.
You probably already know, but vanadium is named for Vanadis, the Norse goddess of beauty, on account of the wide range of lovely colours that vanadium compounds have.
I bought a rock tumbler for aluminum powder and use it as a ball mill. I wish I could buy it, but I'm Canadian, so no dice. The fun part is when you open it and if it's ground for too long it all oxidizes at once, causing it to melt, then burst into flame (which only happened once).
Instead of a glass bottle, use a well-dried and fired clay pot with a hole at the bottom. Wrap it in addition with a fiberglass mat. this is how the railroad tracks are welded. Greetings from Poland
Extractions and Ire: [Breaks out a hunk of fluorite] Every Astronomer watching: NOOOO. Don’t destroy that in a fire!!! Melt it and forge pretty lensesssssss.
If you do this again, it might be worth: 1) Using more heat-resistant glass (as Nile Red did in his latest video) and 2) Pre-heating the glass somewhat, to avoid thermal shock breaking it. An interesting video would be making VOCl3 from your residual V2O5.
Use a crucabl with a long steal pipe for a smoke stack. The pipe should fit just in side the mouth of the crucabl, you want everything to coalesce at the bottom and not on the rim of the crucabl. The pipe should be at least 1 to 1.5 meters long, no shorter then 1 meter. Place a coffee filter on top of the thermite and place 10 cm of loose sand on top of the filter. The filter stops the sand and thermite from mixing until the last possible moment, use a blowtorch on the side of the crucabl to ignite the thermite. I don't know if it would stuff up the reaction but I would use a shit ton of borax for flux.
Tom, I know in this case you're after a coarse grind, but if you do want to powderise your solids, remember that old YT channel, Will it Blend? I don't think it's active any more, but it's still around. I have seen one of those things get a red-hot nickel ball in it, and the nickel came out of it WAY worse. Blender wasn't damaged at all! Since a blender has twice the blades of a coffee grinder, plus they're razor sharp and nigh-indestructible, I figure it'd do a better job.
I've got a couple of pounds of Vanadium pentoxide on hand. It's an ingredient in a universal hot prime for Pyrotechnic stars, along with some Aluminum powder, Potassium perchlorate, Potassium nitrate, diatomaceous earth, wood flour, red gum, guar gum and gum arabic. A decomposition catalyst for the perchlorate plus undergoes a thermitic reaction with the Auminum. Good stuff, works better than Iron oxides.
Pro tip after you finish grinding your aluminum foil that your weed came in empty it and stick the weed in and you can grind up your weed to make the thermite reaction so much more exciting Added bonus the reaction will take ages if you smoke the weed before setting it up
The clear bit of "fluorite" you used may have been another mineral. Fluorite is relatively soft with a Moh's hardness of exactly 4 (Wonder why!). Additionally fluorite exhibits perfect octahedral cleavage. The stuff you were breaking up seemed quite hard and didn't exhibit the expected cleavage.
Tiny flower pot or tea cup instead of bottle for containment? Ceramics are much more temp shock resistant than glass, especially if dried before use, so that no moisture is trapped in it, that becomes steam and cracks it from the inside.
Nice to see the V2O5 put to good use. The Gayest Person on TH-cam has some nice thermite videos including obtaining a large nugget of vanadium. He shows flux calculations too. Looking forward to VCl3. I am totally with you on the chlorine chemistry. (And I am the person who has been watching the "isolating vanadium" video. Sorry for spoiling the stats.)
2:56 Ahh the smell of burning motor brushes being eaten through at lightning pace mixing with the bitter sweet smell of powdered aluminium as it also settles out of your bloodstream in to your brain 😌 takes me back to my own misguided thermite cooking 🍳 And I went Blender Coffee grinder Mortar and pestle (gives great texture for mill) Ball mill (mixed stainless ball size)
I don't think that's gonna be a good idea, as the uranium would then ignite from the temperature, and that smoke is both highly radioactive, and massively toxic.
Why the glass bottle though? Wouldn't a can work? At least it wont shatter. Maybe a firebrick with a well carved into it to hold in the mix? With another one on top with a hole all the way through it to act as sides of the container.
Ever considered making Raney nickel through a thermite reaction? Apparently it is possible and iirc it is mentioned in one of the early Raney patents but no details are given. I reckon you need a NiO/Al mixture and add more Al so the resulting product will be close to a @ NiAl alloy.
3:16 i used my coffee grinder to grind up aluminium and went for some pretty long runs. Like minutes at a time. Eventually it just stopped and wouldn't rotate the blade at all. But 20 mins later it started working just fine. So if yours is anything like mine then it'll cut the power if it starts to run to hot, and you may not have to worry about burning out your motor by running it too long.
@@GLITCH_-.- Understood. You said that thermal fuses cost money, does that mean that once the thermal fuse goes, it needs to be replaced? The one I got (linked below) was pretty cheap as well. When I was grinding aluminium foil to powder, I ran it for a good couple minutes, then bursts for like 30 to 45 seconds, then it stopped and wouldn't turn back on. I was like "Fuck! Well, that's the end of this thing", but then just out of curiosity I tried it again when it cooled down like 45 minutes later and it worked perfectly fine! Still works like a charm! So mine must have something akin to a thermal fuse, but it doesn't need to be replaced, just cooled down. Here's the grinder I use: amzn.com/B07HQHHMYJ
However, for the purposes I use the coffee grinder for, I think I instead should have invested in a rock tumbler and some steel ball bearings. Those seem to powder up the aluminium in a very fine powder (and yes, I know freshly ground aluminium powder is pyrophoric as the oxide forms, safety first).
What if you rolled it up into a foil ball with a wick, and then packed it into a ball of clay/earth, and then buried it in a shallow hole with a little ventilation. Or poked a hole on the ground and shoved the foil into it? I imagine you would contain any spatter and could just rinse it all out of a single shovel full of dirt through a wire screen.
You need a good granite pestle that you’re not afraid to break.... also when you sealed the top of the bottle is how you create a boom boom... so leave the top open, the glass will last longer, also try quartz glass
I keep watching you pick larger pieces put of a powder... why not use a flour sive to separate workable pieces from powder and ash. Shake the sive over a paper and you can collect the powders..... just a thought..
Grinding the aluminum sheet finer or coarser should not make much difference, until the size of the flakes is comparable to the thickness. Think of a square aluminum plate 1 meter across and 1 mm thick. The total area is 2.004 m^2. If you cut it into 100 squares 1/10 of the size, 10 cm across, the total area becomes 2.4 m^2 -- bigger, sure, but not 100 times bigger, not even 10 times bigger... On the other hand, a cube of aluminum 1 meter across has 6 m^2 ot total area. If you cut it into cubes 1/10 of the size, 10 cm across, the total area will be 10 times bigger -- 60 m^2...
Make/get the cheapest ball mill you can get and grind up aluminium foil with that (useful for fine blending as well). Just make sure you it doesn't run it closed for days or the aluminium powder will auto ignite on contact with air
7:06 : "I'm very unsure if this is a good idea, but our reaction container is going to be this glass bottle here" I think I let out an audible "no it's not!" ^^ Glass was obviously going to instantly shatter and spread the slag around. A flowerpot or metal bucket filled with fine sand would have been a much better choice: it's the only thing that won't melt or shatter, and it's also a good thermal insulator. You can add some clay with just the right amount of moisture to it to make a mixture called "green sand", commonly used in metal casting. That could be easily given a funnel shape, to allow the molten vanadium to pool at the bottom. (Otherwise, maybe just regular sand poured on the edges of the pot would naturally give you a wide 112° funnel shape, with its a 34° angle of repose. Loose sand mixing with the thermite could be an issue though.)
Finding terracotta pots here has honestly been a challenge. I think the clay idea is a real good one. I was expecting the thermite to be much slower, given the terrible aluminium quality. If it was an iron oxide thermite, I don't think it would have even burned. But yes, the violence of the glass shattering really did ruin this, which is a shame
Respectful suggestion; If you want to cut up solids on a small scale, I recommend getting a Dremel tool or an engraving pen. Clouting it with a hammer will work, but there might be a tad of shrapnel and possible hammered fingers...
flower pots? I mean glass just isn't gong to survive a 1000c degree temp change over 1 second. some form of ceramic is (or maybe a graphite crucible) bound to suffer that kind of temp change better than glass states.
Sand you mad bastard,you need to bury the primary container in sand so it doesn't go everywhere when it breaks! Perhaps just make a sodium silicate&sand crucible? Porous enough to get rid of the gasses but strong enough to contain the splatter?
Ok so the frame rate issue is a render error, sorry about that. Was hoping i'd be able to fix it today, but you can't do anything to help that out on a Uploaded youtube video, and I don't want to take it down and re-upload. Here's a smooth, normal version of the video you can watch, if the issue is too annoying for you! th-cam.com/video/hY4vWD0cYlg/w-d-xo.html
Extractions&Ire I SAID “Talk to the hand” 😁
@Marc Jackson that's nothing we poked japan with the biggest sticks we had in the bag until they fought back , why does shit like that happen? because America is gullible and the satanic banker cabal loves war that's why that happens . and real information runs at a premium and it cost blood as a rule because death cult satanist are running shit. like the wizard from Oz. not bull shit facts. so your point is? blood is their wage because of their belief in a boogie man that grants them what ever they want. that runs all the way back to predated written history. you gonna solve the problem all by your self ? i've been at people for the cause most of my adult life, let "me" inform you. i've had very little effect, and now that censorship has been normalized here in the states good luck with that, who the fuck you think is running youtube now? everybody and i mean everybody with a public face has a handler behind the scenes. and the powers that be are not interested in the truth unless it serves them. but you can be sure they will put their cant on it. fine tuning the lean.
cool reaction bubby, i'm surprised how quickly the glass broke very little delay.
Nicholas Brown rubies are just aluminum oxide. Aluminum oxide is made all the time in thermite reactions, but it will never produce large crystals that would be worth anything. Sorry, no quick ruby making machine here
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0:36 - "Isolating cat shit from cat litter"
true chemistry right 'ere mate
"Our reaction container is going to be this glass bottle here"
Mate you are making a glass hand grenade
I did that once with standard thermite, blew the top off sending half the un burnt fuel in the air, then blew out the bottom which was used, never did find the top, moral of the story, don't use sugar chlorate as an ignition source in an unreinforced container
How about filling that pot with sand, and partially cover the glass bottle?
@Dr. M. H. One, two, five
One brazilian channel tried the tiktok's matches in a bottle reaction.
It went very very wrong, the bottle chain reacted way faster than it should and blew glass shards over the whole crew.
They got fine after healthcare, but that was some heavy handled experiment, terrible way to end a year that was
I would recommend for any thermite reactions to use terra cotta pottery containers. They can withstand thousands of degrees and are pretty cheap.
That’s what my chem teacher used, it worked pretty well
LOL, I just made a suggestion to the same, then read this. Absolutely agree. 👍
@@shotintel or mabe a crucible
Yeah the glass was a bad decision. Even metal would have been better.
Was gonna say the same thing
Goddamnit Marie, they're minerals!
it's subtle, but nevertheless great :)
I hate that I know exactly what this quote is from... ._.
What's with the frame rate here?
Is bullying yourself from a different channel considered harassment or self-harm?
Yeah, I just wanted to bitch about it...
Maybe your camera was skipping frames because of the heat?
I know some do, but I haven't seen it happen for quite some time (unless you count people trying to shoot videos with their phones...)
right? what a fuckin idiot
@@mortlet5180 I'm pretty sure 40C is actually outside the operating range of most consumer electronics, and it was out in the sun, filming thermite. Kind of a worst-case scenario.
@@Teth47 I don't think that camera was the issue though... I don't know what he uses to film when just walking around and pointing at things, but that is the one which I think made his editing software decide on a 'lowest common denominator' framerate.
As an electrical engineer myself, you might hear people say "nah, 40C is fine as the electronic chips are specc'd to operate up to 85C". While this is technically partially true (most consumer devices will use chips with the 'standard' max temp of 85C), the absolute maximum ratings in a datasheet is for the die itself (the physical piece of silicon inside its package) and at 0 power dissipation (most devices are derated to 0W dissipation at their max temp. Derating often begins at 25C already, where their maximum power dissipation is specc'd.).
So you're going to start thermal throttling a lot sooner, because at 40C you've already lost 40C-20C/(85C-25C) = 1/3 of the thermal headroom you had at 'room temperature'.
Sounds like a good reaction to do on a day with a total fire ban :)
There's months of total fireban, I gotta live my life some days!
"They're minerals"
Breaking bad vibes
1080p 13 frames per second. I like this new format.
"It's not yellow, it's orange"
"It's not pink, it's light-ish red!"
-Donut
piranha031091 that’s an old reference, but a good one
Your pfp has a fuckin yellow flower. Traitors will be shot in the back
I love the hierarchy of flammables that you have to use: a flint (or an electric spark) to light a lighter to light a sparkler to light magnesium to light the thermite.
I like the 20 frames per second
Cinematic
For better yield you might use clay flower pots with holes in the bottom, covered with aluminium foil and fitting clay lids to set the reaction of in, and some other ceramic to catch the products. That's how my chemistry teacher made a really solid iron nugget once.
The rockhound in me flinched watching you take a hammer to that beautiful chunk of flourite... The pyro in me reached for the popcorn.
With the vanadium being fairly dense you could perhaps smash all the glass/ceramic/slag up fine and then pan it... you might get any aluminium bits to go out with the other waste
In case you didn't know, they put some kind of weird polish on aluminum foil in the US, you have to burn it off to form the oxide and then convert it back in a kiln
Thermite video on my birthday? You're officially my favorite Aussie!
Happy Birthday!!
dammn finally caught tom's video on time this time
Aussie Chemist
Seriously! This caught me off guard
@@kriegguardsman9117 no kidding
Only because you up real late instead of sleeping
no sleep until 2020 lads
I shredded my grinders blades once when I was trying to grind up some electronic scrap I had burned down. I noticed something was wrong when nothing was moving anymore and then I noticed the blades were completely gone. Was crazy.
"sorry if i look sweaty" bro australia is on fire right now. being sweaty is nothing
Just have to say I love the music you use on these videos. Very Aphex Twin/Autechre
Yeah I've noticed the same thing... very late 90s IDM/techno
Skam / Rephlex
some of it is Aphex I know for sure.
Should have preheated the bottle with a torch before igniting that, might not have broken. Vanadium is awesome, and I had no idea you can make thermite from vanadium pentoxide, I used to have a couple ounces of it, wish I had known before I got rid of it. Great video as always. I have a few clusters of dendritic vanadium crystals for my element collection, they are beautiful stuff.
3:59 u be hank from breaking bad
@@bobbish1618 chears mate
Use a small and thick terracotta pot with a lid (secured down), and small vents to release pressure but big enough to release most of the sparks. I think you might get better chunks. Also using more of your mixture would probably create a better thermal mass to provide more time for the metal to flow together.
Or look into metal casting containment and preform your reaction in an inverted cone shape mold.
Just a theory, I'm not an expert, just going off some of the other work I've seen done and their results.
Good luck.
Your videos always make my day. Thank you
Would nighthawkinlight's starlight recipe work to resist the thermite reaction, contain the slag and be very cheap. You could also mold the starlight to whatever shape you wanted
IJWTS the hatred for yellow chemistry is what keeps me coming back to this channel.
using that glass bottle as a thermite reaction vessel is the equivalent of using organolithium reagents in open air - destined to fail
New Years eve is close time to build those firecrackers :D
yes please lol i would love to see that
Lol not like Australia needs any more fire
@@bangbangliu2146 Come visit Germany, we got beer and Schnitzels :D
You can wrap minerals in a cloth before hitting them with a hammer, it makes it easier imo
Can't agree more on that , especially usefull if you trying to break something that is shatters as a glass when you don't want a lot of tiny sharp pieces laying all around.
I have no idea how I ended up on your channel, and I have no chemistry background (been a solid 8 years since grade 12 chemistry), but I enjoy the shit out of your vids, my dude. Keep blowing shit up and I'll keep watching.
We got explosions and fire! This is why we come here! I liked the analysis and hypothesizing as to how to slow the reaction. I have tried to do the same for manganese because it reaches and exceeds the Mn boiling point in a Mn thermite reaction.
What is this, 2 uploads in the same week?
Two uploads, half the framerate!
@@thomasrush2095
That equals 1 upload, right?
Sounds like he's saying the fluorite will be a "hate sink" that will absorb all the hate released by the reaction.
if you used a borosilicate boiling tube at like 3/4 the heat you could get it with a blow torch , almost glowing , then dump everything in ,i think that would conatin it better , and would avoid thermal shock if you time it right
You should make some crucible steel with vanadium - it can forms some very interesting carbide structures depending on concentration.
Watched an entire 4 minute ad so hopefully you can get a little bit of ad rev from it. Keep it up man, love your vids.
That Fluorite felt more like quartz when you were trying to break it lmao, goddamn that was a tough piece
My mom used to make porcelain dolls, making her own molds of plaster, off a master, and then pouring "slip" into the mold, letting it set for a bit, ten fifteen minutes or so, then pouring the slip back in the bottle, letting the mold cure overnight, leaving a doll head, or body, whatever, about 2-3 mm thick hollow part, that would get fired to green, then finished, painted what ever, and hard fired. You could do the same with a bottle, say, as the master, and do the thermite in a ceramic cast mold of it, as was used for thermite in welding rail, and steam boat cranks, on side-wheelers, a century ago. I expect that would contain the blast and allow a good coalescing. I really like thermite, it's so useful.
You probably already know, but vanadium is named for Vanadis, the Norse goddess of beauty, on account of the wide range of lovely colours that vanadium compounds have.
I bought a rock tumbler for aluminum powder and use it as a ball mill. I wish I could buy it, but I'm Canadian, so no dice. The fun part is when you open it and if it's ground for too long it all oxidizes at once, causing it to melt, then burst into flame (which only happened once).
5:25 "If I really wanted to do proper science..." I love it!
Instead of a glass bottle, use a well-dried and fired clay pot with a hole at the bottom. Wrap it in addition with a fiberglass mat. this is how the railroad tracks are welded. Greetings from Poland
You technical languages is superb. "Triangular bit" - you sir remind me of myself :D
Real technical, thank you
Watching you hammer the fluorite made me sad, do chemists not know the joy and wonder of the bench vise?
He used the test tube clamp as a bench vise.... That really hurt to watch.
Extractions and Ire: [Breaks out a hunk of fluorite]
Every Astronomer watching: NOOOO. Don’t destroy that in a fire!!! Melt it and forge pretty lensesssssss.
As he’s pouring an EXPLOSIVE into a glass bottle: “We’ll give it a shot, why not?”
If you do this again, it might be worth: 1) Using more heat-resistant glass (as Nile Red did in his latest video) and 2) Pre-heating the glass somewhat, to avoid thermal shock breaking it.
An interesting video would be making VOCl3 from your residual V2O5.
Use a crucabl with a long steal pipe for a smoke stack. The pipe should fit just in side the mouth of the crucabl, you want everything to coalesce at the bottom and not on the rim of the crucabl. The pipe should be at least 1 to 1.5 meters long, no shorter then 1 meter. Place a coffee filter on top of the thermite and place 10 cm of loose sand on top of the filter. The filter stops the sand and thermite from mixing until the last possible moment, use a blowtorch on the side of the crucabl to ignite the thermite. I don't know if it would stuff up the reaction but I would use a shit ton of borax for flux.
Tom, I know in this case you're after a coarse grind, but if you do want to powderise your solids, remember that old YT channel, Will it Blend? I don't think it's active any more, but it's still around. I have seen one of those things get a red-hot nickel ball in it, and the nickel came out of it WAY worse. Blender wasn't damaged at all! Since a blender has twice the blades of a coffee grinder, plus they're razor sharp and nigh-indestructible, I figure it'd do a better job.
Huh, turns out a glass bottle isn't the best container for a thermite reaction... who would have guessed?
Always love your content bro, it’s me Velzee from SM and Discord. We should catch up soon!
I've got a couple of pounds of Vanadium pentoxide on hand.
It's an ingredient in a universal hot prime for Pyrotechnic stars, along with some Aluminum powder, Potassium perchlorate, Potassium nitrate, diatomaceous earth, wood flour, red gum, guar gum and gum arabic.
A decomposition catalyst for the perchlorate plus undergoes a thermitic reaction with the Auminum. Good stuff, works better than Iron oxides.
Pro tip after you finish grinding your aluminum foil that your weed came in empty it and stick the weed in and you can grind up your weed to make the thermite reaction so much more exciting
Added bonus the reaction will take ages if you smoke the weed before setting it up
The clear bit of "fluorite" you used may have been another mineral. Fluorite is relatively soft with a Moh's hardness of exactly 4 (Wonder why!). Additionally fluorite exhibits perfect octahedral cleavage. The stuff you were breaking up seemed quite hard and didn't exhibit the expected cleavage.
time to show this video some love!
"hopefully the glass contains, at least, the fireball..."
@7.29 into the video I'm gonna guess "uhuh, yeah, right... That'll happen!"
Ya, thin wall glass.... Well at least it didn't get out of the pot.
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Tiny flower pot or tea cup instead of bottle for containment?
Ceramics are much more temp shock resistant than glass, especially if dried before use, so that no moisture is trapped in it, that becomes steam and cracks it from the inside.
Ever thought of using ceramic flower pots for termite reactions?
Nice to see the V2O5 put to good use.
The Gayest Person on TH-cam has some nice thermite videos including obtaining a large nugget of vanadium. He shows flux calculations too.
Looking forward to VCl3. I am totally with you on the chlorine chemistry.
(And I am the person who has been watching the "isolating vanadium" video. Sorry for spoiling the stats.)
By gayest person do you mean James Charles? I didn't think he'd ever be that kind of person
that was cool man...nice explosion!! totally worth the risk :)
2019 was a much better year than I thought at the time.
That nervous laughter before you light it
I’m really curious why you decided to make your aluminum particles bigger to slow down the reaction instead of using a flux like fluorspar or borax?
Yes I prefer to getting my aluminum without sticking my finger near a blade 1 of death whilst plqugged in!😆
I think they cant turn on when the lid isnt closed.
I love you and your music papi
2:56
Ahh the smell of burning motor brushes being eaten through at lightning pace mixing with the bitter sweet smell of powdered aluminium as it also settles out of your bloodstream in to your brain 😌 takes me back to my own misguided thermite cooking 🍳
And I went
Blender
Coffee grinder
Mortar and pestle (gives great texture for mill)
Ball mill (mixed stainless ball size)
Is it possible to do a reaction of Uranyl Nitrate and Magnesium in a way that does not contaminate your entire garden with depleted uranium dust?
I don't think that's gonna be a good idea, as the uranium would then ignite from the temperature, and that smoke is both highly radioactive, and massively toxic.
Why the glass bottle though? Wouldn't a can work? At least it wont shatter. Maybe a firebrick with a well carved into it to hold in the mix? With another one on top with a hole all the way through it to act as sides of the container.
A firebrick with a hole craved in sounds the best!
here we are enjoying the little things.
like watching a sweaty australian make a joke about wildfires while making ghetto chemistry.
Ever considered making Raney nickel through a thermite reaction? Apparently it is possible and iirc it is mentioned in one of the early Raney patents but no details are given. I reckon you need a NiO/Al mixture and add more Al so the resulting product will be close to a @ NiAl alloy.
A big foking hole coming rigth now
Damn, you poor bastard. The heats been nuts!
It’s like a really good stop motion
Why would you do this in a glass bottle????
I’m here watching a thermite video, drinking a Jack and Coke, trying to forget about organic chemistry
New title for ya ... "Scientist struggles to break a rock for fifteen minutes"
3:16 i used my coffee grinder to grind up aluminium and went for some pretty long runs. Like minutes at a time. Eventually it just stopped and wouldn't rotate the blade at all. But 20 mins later it started working just fine.
So if yours is anything like mine then it'll cut the power if it starts to run to hot, and you may not have to worry about burning out your motor by running it too long.
This thermal fuse does cost money though, and his grinder is pretty cheap.
@@GLITCH_-.- Understood. You said that thermal fuses cost money, does that mean that once the thermal fuse goes, it needs to be replaced?
The one I got (linked below) was pretty cheap as well. When I was grinding aluminium foil to powder, I ran it for a good couple minutes, then bursts for like 30 to 45 seconds, then it stopped and wouldn't turn back on. I was like "Fuck! Well, that's the end of this thing", but then just out of curiosity I tried it again when it cooled down like 45 minutes later and it worked perfectly fine! Still works like a charm! So mine must have something akin to a thermal fuse, but it doesn't need to be replaced, just cooled down.
Here's the grinder I use: amzn.com/B07HQHHMYJ
However, for the purposes I use the coffee grinder for, I think I instead should have invested in a rock tumbler and some steel ball bearings. Those seem to powder up the aluminium in a very fine powder (and yes, I know freshly ground aluminium powder is pyrophoric as the oxide forms, safety first).
What if you rolled it up into a foil ball with a wick, and then packed it into a ball of clay/earth, and then buried it in a shallow hole with a little ventilation. Or poked a hole on the ground and shoved the foil into it? I imagine you would contain any spatter and could just rinse it all out of a single shovel full of dirt through a wire screen.
9:45 "Hm?" followed by a classic E&I lol moment :D
The glass bottle was a bad idea. The shock of it's shattering scattered your reaction mixture. I would suggest more flux and better confinement.
something about a good ol’ mate saying “nugget” just sends me…
Using that glass bottle kinda hurts...
Great video though 👍🏼
You need a good granite pestle that you’re not afraid to break.... also when you sealed the top of the bottle is how you create a boom boom... so leave the top open, the glass will last longer, also try quartz glass
I do have one actually! It's just still covered in antimony metal from the last time I used it..
Glass bottle full of thermite? SIGN ME UP
next time you do this cast the bottom of the glass bottle in plaster so when the glass breaks the metal still stays concentrated
I keep watching you pick larger pieces put of a powder... why not use a flour sive to separate workable pieces from powder and ash. Shake the sive over a paper and you can collect the powders..... just a thought..
looked like a F.A.A. crash seen investigation. 10:30
Grinding the aluminum sheet finer or coarser should not make much difference, until the size of the flakes is comparable to the thickness.
Think of a square aluminum plate 1 meter across and 1 mm thick. The total area is 2.004 m^2. If you cut it into 100 squares 1/10 of the size, 10 cm across, the total area becomes 2.4 m^2 -- bigger, sure, but not 100 times bigger, not even 10 times bigger...
On the other hand, a cube of aluminum 1 meter across has 6 m^2 ot total area. If you cut it into cubes 1/10 of the size, 10 cm across, the total area will be 10 times bigger -- 60 m^2...
A box of fireplace bricks might help contain this stuff better, high heat tolerance, less likely to shatter, and relatively inexpensive
if you had a bench vice you could just throw it into that and let the jaws crush it. just have to be aware of the rock fragments.
I like when chemistry involves hitting shit with a hammer.
Make/get the cheapest ball mill you can get and grind up aluminium foil with that (useful for fine blending as well). Just make sure you it doesn't run it closed for days or the aluminium powder will auto ignite on contact with air
I really should get a ball mill, it would be useful for a lot of things I think
Extractions&Ire I am literally using a kids marble smoothing machine, I just added bearings and that’s it and it was about 20$ in a toy shop
7:06 : "I'm very unsure if this is a good idea, but our reaction container is going to be this glass bottle here"
I think I let out an audible "no it's not!" ^^
Glass was obviously going to instantly shatter and spread the slag around. A flowerpot or metal bucket filled with fine sand would have been a much better choice: it's the only thing that won't melt or shatter, and it's also a good thermal insulator. You can add some clay with just the right amount of moisture to it to make a mixture called "green sand", commonly used in metal casting. That could be easily given a funnel shape, to allow the molten vanadium to pool at the bottom. (Otherwise, maybe just regular sand poured on the edges of the pot would naturally give you a wide 112° funnel shape, with its a 34° angle of repose. Loose sand mixing with the thermite could be an issue though.)
Finding terracotta pots here has honestly been a challenge. I think the clay idea is a real good one.
I was expecting the thermite to be much slower, given the terrible aluminium quality. If it was an iron oxide thermite, I don't think it would have even burned. But yes, the violence of the glass shattering really did ruin this, which is a shame
Respectful suggestion; If you want to cut up solids on a small scale, I recommend getting a Dremel tool or an engraving pen. Clouting it with a hammer will work, but there might be a tad of shrapnel and possible hammered fingers...
flower pots? I mean glass just isn't gong to survive a 1000c degree temp change over 1 second.
some form of ceramic is (or maybe a graphite crucible) bound to suffer that kind of temp change better than glass states.
Tom, there is a tool for holding things its called a vice m😂😂 no injury sustained in the process of holding onto it
Sand you mad bastard,you need to bury the primary container in sand so it doesn't go everywhere when it breaks! Perhaps just make a sodium silicate&sand crucible? Porous enough to get rid of the gasses but strong enough to contain the splatter?
Vanadium is a fairly dense metal. Perhaps try to pan it as prospectors do for gold?