May Colloquium with Dr. Bernardo Kastrup
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- In a recent essay published in The Debrief, philosopher Dr. Bernardo Kastrup (known for his outspoken defense of philosophical idealism, which he calls "analytic idealism", and for his criticisms of philosophical materialism) proposes to argue, rationally, for a seemingly surprising thesis: that (some) UAP could be advanced nonhuman but terrestrial technology. Dr. Kastrup argues that the best and most credible evidence for UAP is plausibly explained by the so-called "Silurian Hypothesis", which references a hypothetical advanced, intelligent, nonhuman yet terrestrial species.
We discuss Dr. Kastrup's controversial thesis - quite familiar to those who are studied in "ufology" - with two academics working on the subject of UAP. Prof. Kevin Knuth is currently professor of physics at SUNY Albany, a lead research scientist with UAPx, Advisory Board member here at the Society for UAP Studies and Natural Sciences Advisory Board member at the Sol Foundation. Prof. Knuth is joined in conversation with Dr. Kastrup by Dr. Michael Glawson, who is a contributing member of SCU and co-host of the UAP Studies podcast.
Read Dr. Kastrup's essay on The Debrief: thedebrief.org...
"The Silurian hypothesis is a thought experiment which assesses modern science's ability to detect evidence of a prior advanced civilization, perhaps several million years ago. The most probable cues for such a civilization could be carbon, radioactive elements or temperature variation." learned something new😁
Brilliance coupled with humility… this man is absolutely STLAR 💫.
I’m soooo grateful at having the opportunity to listen and learn.
Bernardo is always the only one who makes sense. The people asking the questions are not thinking them through very well. Bernardo read my mind and answered them for me. Thanks Bernardo
Cats. They are cats. Lol
If they were cats they’d be asking us to open the door all the time.
Interesting thus far. Appreciate the dr knuth connection. Really like that guy
Munching the thought candy:
By not fouling the experiment, a lot of catastrophes have been endured...
Will there be a limit to this non-intervention?
Or maybe within the picture of idealism, these were ultimately not actually catastrophes 🤔?
Shīva legends point to a rich invisible source of alien intelligence being centred in Lake Mansarovar in the Himalyas
The interruption of commercials during these valuable words is so telling about our society.
So loud and physical and bombastic and material. Obviously an ugly distraction from what’s important
Man’s gotta eat you know… he cant eat philosophy
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If you want good content but you aren't inclined to pay for it or help support the creator of the content, that's telling about you, not society.
Very interesting conversation! A few things I wonder about in terms of the assumptions we make in trying to understand the intentions of the intelligent beings behind the UAP phenomena. There is the aspect of compassion which was not touched upon. They may be here to help us. They may happen to live in the neighborhood (whatever that may be, depending on travel times - incidentally the possibility of faster-than-light travel or hyper-space travel was not mentioned either), and be concerned about our wellbeing and evolution. What does a civilization do when it has solved its internal problems, that kept it focused on self-absorption? What kind of meaning do they find in life? Would it have to do with co-evolution and co-creation?
They may be not so much attached to (or invested into) their material home, but interested in freedom, unification and transcendence of (material) limitation. They may have come to the understanding that we are all into this together, and they may want to help us come to that same realization. The suffering is not only at the end of a bad course of action (e.g. the self-destruction of our society). It lies already at the very beginning, in terms of being insensitive (or desensitized) to the suffering of separation (i.e. the unrealized illusion of separation). It may be a suffering which those intelligent beings are very sensitive to, and have no wish to desensitize themselves to, but bear with lightness and joyful creativity in their ways of contacting us, as our brothers on the same path of transcendence, albeit not so lost on that path.
From that perspective they may wish for us to investigate their reality in a way that we can discover that we share the same reality, that we are ultimately like them, one with them. And that we can join them on our common path, once we have managed to overcome our fragmentation and self-absorption as a species. Perhaps they not only have realized that life is about service, but actually live that to the fullest extent possible to them, seeking to even live it fuller. If so, then we can only come to understand them to the degree that we, as a species, take seriously the prospect of living a life of service. In this way, their true intentions and the way they want us to understand those, would be unified. I wonder if our tendency to think of there being a gap between the two and of there being manipulation in the game, is not entirely on our side, and is the very (imaginary) barrier to coming closer to them?
Could it be that the reason for the sparse way in which they show themselves to us, is exactly to stay away from manipulation, to not violate our freedom in coming to the right understanding of our relationship with them? Is that why it seems that they really leave a sense of plausible deniability in the wake of their interventions? This could even be the criterion for discriminating the real stuff from overactive imagination and wishful thinking? We have to make their reality real to ourselves, as our common reality. Would that be the law that they are bound to in their interactions with us?
Bernardo opens with 'At the Mountains of Madness'.
Did he just explain in a way why subatomic particles clearly react to observation? Minutes 51-58, with a bit of the spooky action at a distance
Timestamps would be helpful
Big sur incident. A test ICBM rocket at the second stage was observed to be interfered by a flying disc in the upper atmosphere. The disc "appeared" and hovered around the test warhead. It then fired 5 visible beams , which altered the warheads trajectory before "disappearing". That's a clear sign that NHI (or a faction of them) have a high probability of ACTING to preserve the habitability of their "domain". As to why they don't inhabit other planets, maybe they do and we are not aware either based on limitations of our detection methods, limitations of open source data (classified national security information), and low observability of the phenomenon
Anything can be done. I wouldn't be surprised one bit. I have heard that men tell the story too. 100% highly credible soldier.
Great interview!
Time stamps PLEASE!
Excellent discussion..would be great if they could go more into the potential theories on how this artefact from evolution could operate and what it could be related to in terms of what knowledge of the brain or consciousness we are already studying.
Kevin knuth is the best
Do our anthropologists always interfere?
Also see James Madden and "hyperobjects." Consistent with Bernardo's points about the psychological unknowability of the Others.
Do you mean Timothy Morton? Who coined the term?
Pure gold, as expected with such guests. Thank you !
And even simpler explanation is that the UAP’s are projections, true we don’t have the technology to do projections in three-dimensional space like that or radar detection space like that, but it’s a lot more conceivable using our knowledge of physics than lack of inertia
The whole universe might be a projection of information. If we agree it's there, it's there.
Everytime Bernardo talks about geopolitics he suddenly looks absolutely dumb and simplistic.
How so?
This is a common occurrence. When people step outside their area of expertise, they often end up sharing biased opinions. This applies to everyone. The difference with academics is that they usually have a high opinion of their understanding of subjects outside their field. In other words, their confirmation bias tends to be stronger in these areas (this isn't just my opinion; it's supported by multiple peer-reviewed studies).
You are more likely to be absolutely dumb and simplistic than he is!
I admire Bernardo’s work, but what you say is sadly true.
He only made one geopolitical comment which was at 108:40 - “What would happen if a crazy somewhere in Russia decided to fire nukes“? I don’t think this remark makes him look absolutely dumb and simplistic!
I think your remark makes you look ADS.
If I thought like you, I wouldn’t listen to him anymore!
The Cambrian explosion is about information.
There is an organizing principle at work in the cosmos.
This was heartening and solid, thank you
So they just assume they can't have technology to travel across interstellar distances
No, the guy clearly said it was a tentative hypothesis on the basis of being conservative.
I’m highly skeptical of the recent UAP trend. I feel that most of the big names, are just cynical grifters. I also don’t care for most of the UFO videos, they don’t show anything that’s clearly impossible, to me.
However, I’m receptive to the accounts, and experiences. And I’m happy to see people approaching the issue with vigour and diligence.
I feel that Bernardo needs to tread carefully here, too much UFO theorising will hurt his contributions towards consciousness and our perception of reality.
I’m a non resistant, non believer who is open to exploring this topic with both skepticism and intrigue
There is an overwhelming amount of evidence. Go to Eyes on Cinema. Events happen and are documented at the time of the event. This has been happening for decades. Presidents, astronauts, military pilots, commercial air pilots, whole cities, whole neighborhoods, whole air bases, whole schoolyards with hundreds of kids, and on and on and on. That's just the tip of the iceberg. There is physical evidence. Research.
I deeply respect Bernardo's logical, thougtful and scientific approach to analytic Idealism. But, here, he seems to have gone off the rails. That's unfortunate because it not only makes me wonder about my commitment to his metaphysics but also, more critically for me, his concept of a daemon. That I wanted to believe for many reasons. But now, with this ...?
In what way has he gone off the rails?
Bernardo is just speculating , don't lose the faith✌
No harm speculating. There does seem to be something real to this UAP phenomena, and extraterrestrial is just one hypothesis.
what about anything said here is more "out there" than the concept of a daemon?
This comment says more about your own bias than it does about Bernardo.