I thought I had seen every method for measuring threads but I've never even heard of the Ovee wires. That's very ingenious. At the work station we use wires and a mic free hand. It's a "learned" habit. Inspection uses go, no go gauges
I have never heard of OV gages. They look like they would get the job done with none of the hassles of the other devices. My work was one-off, so if it fit it worked and in some cases had to be made that way as the bolts and nuts were made one-off by the original craftsman. I recently retired from a 30 year career as a museum restorations and exhibits curator. I worked with both woodworking and metal working tools and I am continually amazed at how much I didn’t and still don’t know and how much I learn watching your videos and those of the other incredible machinist on You Tube. I particularly like your to-the-point style. Keep up the great work.
Thanks Lyle for an interesting lesson! I had never heard of Ove thread gauges, and I agree with you that they are quite ingenious, simple to make and simple to use, a great combination. Keep up your great work.
Dang, I've got some of the Ovee thread gauges I got from a machinist box I bought at auction. I didn't know what they were. They are around here somewhere as I never pitch anything. Now to find them and see which ones I have. Hot damn, thanks mrpete, learned something new today. Any day you learn is a good day.
The last thread I cut (last night) I tapped the female part and used it to gauge the lathe cut thread. Easy and good enough for the job. I've used three wire when I needed but don't have enough hands to do it easily!
I looked the OVEE gauges on their web site. They are $117.00 - 138.00 EACH when new. Pretty nice but I don't think I will ever have a set. Thanks for showing them to us.
Just did the same thing. Ouch. You can get a set of thread wires with the plastic holder to make holding them easier for about $75 and that will measure almost any thread size. It appears that these cost about the same as a set of go-no-go plug gages and you don't even need to measure those.
I use the thread wires, or MOW, (measurement over wires) all the time at work. The easiest way to use them is to split a rubber band into 2 pieces, and poke the wires through each piece to hold them over the work piece to measure with micrometer. Works really well. Thanks for the video
I used to do Inspection many years ago in a shop that was Boeing Certified. I've never seen the Ovee Thread Gauges before. It's been a long time since I've done that type of work. I suspect Boeing would not have allowed the use of the Ovee Thread Gauges for machined threads for the parts we made for them, but they sure look handy and appear to be quite accurate as well. I always learn something new watching your videos.
I have made my own ones in the past, too poor to buy any, out of copper wire. Copper wire can be had in most of the sizes used in a PD set and is easy to wrap around the thread to be measured and using the PD chart for reference.
I use thread mics whenever possible, far faster and more convenient than wires, I highly recommend picking up even a import one for 0-1" at least for even a hobbyist as that is going to cover 90% of the threads most people will be cutting. Also your directly reading the pitch diameter and don't have to rely on a chart that you can lose, miss read, or make a calculation mistake with. If I have to use wires I always put some green painters tape (so you don't get sticky all over your wires!) on them taping 2 together and flagging the other one so when, not if, you drop them they are very easy to find. Also I use grease to glue them in place, always worked well for me and then you can easily use them with just 2 hands. I've never had a chance to use a OVEE gauge before but they do look like a reasonable system but my god would a full set cost a fortune! Thanks for the great video!
still rock the high school method. all the different sized nuts. hammered into a piece of ply-wood with the thread sizes marked. works like a charm for fast identification.
I guess I use the hunt for a nut or bolt that fits. But, if I were using a lathe to cut threads I suppose it would be good to have a set or the Ovee gauges. As a bricklayer, we weren't needing to be that close to tolerant but when I was fiddling around in the machine shop at school, I tried to get things as close as possible. Greg
Cute. I have thread wires and a selection of thread mics, but I discovered that the older Starrett thread mics aren't always accurate on modern UN threads. Flexbar makes some nice little plastic holders for the wires.
Doing boiler work on a steam locomotive, we had to match the thread on the staybolt stock to the taps we had, which cut a bit undersized. We measured over wires.
Very interesting! I think I had a set of those (available) when I was at LePages. I can see where wear and use (mis-use) may throw off readings in an older set, but I think you could "proof" those easy enough by trying them out against one of the other types and making sure you're getting like accuracy. Carry on.
Hi mrpete, My all time favorite is now the micrometer with the threading anvils, but I would have liked to have the Ovee instead of the threading wires before, I got really good at shearching them wires in the chip pan before understanding that keeping the pan clean was a good idea... ;) Cheers, Pierre
Fascinating, never seen those in the UK. As fiddly as they are I will stick with my 3 wires. Many thanks for posting Mr Pete, have you ever considered doing a video on stones and stoning? Oil, wet and India diamond etc its something that I would like to learn. Many thanks, Jim
I use the thread wires all the time. I use grease to hold the two on the top my left hand to hold the one under and my right hand to hold the mike. Also I use red dykum to stain the wires in case I drop the wires so I can easily see them.
I've never seen OV gauges, but the 3 wire method I've used in the past and yes it is a struggle to hang on to the wires and try to get an accurate reading. :)
I have a set of Ovee brand thread wires. They are almost identical but have more than a few loops of wire. They look almost like a Helicoil insert but work the same as the spring type you have. They thread on and you measure over the outer diameter. I believe mine are older, before this style you are displaying here.
I've been in the machining trade now for almost 50 years & have never seen or used the OVEE gauge !! I have tried the thread V's , but they are VERY awkward !! A nut IS a good substitute for a ring gauge . And Wires are the most common . It is possible to only use ONE wire though !! (1) Mike O.D. of part & write down // ( 2) Mike over O.D. & ONE wire & write down // (3) Subtract smaller number from larger number & write down // (4) ADD step (3) & step step (2) // (5) This is equal to measurement over TWO WIRES // (6) Proceed with wire formula to acquire Pitch Diameter . This method is MUCH easier for LARGE diameter threads ie.: 2.000 & UP !!!!! Also when you have cut a thread & it looks pretty good BUT the nut or gauge won't go on , your question is how much more to cut ??? The THREAD TOLERANCE , .003 to .004 Thous. is a good start . GREAT video ,GREAT Ideas , THANK YOU Mr. Pete !!!!!
A slick way to get 3-wire effectiveness without the hassle. I've never seen those; I will have to keep an eye out for them. EDIT: Found (and bought) a set for fine threads from 1/4 to 1". Not cheap, but not ridiculous. Now to find sets for coarse threads and for smaller threads. EDIT2: And a set of coarse from 1/4 to 1 inch. Whoopee!
Those Ovee gauges are cute but i guess are made for 60 degree threads - ( not a lot of use for the whitworth bolts i was making at the weekend. I had to struggle with wires!) and as the thread pitch gets smaller , the wires get bigger and stiffer so there must be an upper limit to the available sizes. I like your mechanical digital mic. I must keep an eye out for one of those :-). Thanks.
personally being pretty new to all of this and not having all these fancy gadgets yet. I use the check it with the nut method, but that Ovee Gage looks the easiest. I would however like to have a set of wires and soon will make that a priority for my purchasing list.
Excellent video mrpete. I have a complete set of BSW O-Vee gauges up to 1" & a few odd ones over that size. I also have an almost complete set in ANF size. All are complete with the instruction sheet. I do still use them. Wish I had a metric set. Did you know there are 3 different types of O-Vee gauge.? 1-- Standard thread Gauge. 2-- Tap measurement gauges. 3-- Nominal effective gauges. All the ones I have are in the original blue card boxes marked "O-VEE Spring Gauge Ltd" Edgware, Middlesex (English county) and by the 4 digit phone number is most likely mid 1960's to late 1970's O-Vee is still a trading company to this day.Thanks for sharing. regards from the UK
Here is an early US advertisement for them.books.google.co.uk/books?id=wyUDAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA245&lpg=PA245&dq=Where+did+O-Vee+gauges+come+from&source=bl&ots=BKaVW4d05a&sig=TJDj8wlwp1UeRw7qG6yLvd_1n6M&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwji9sT9ncDTAhUMLcAKHcckCxEQ6AEIMDAC#v=onepage&q=Where%20did%20O-Vee%20gauges%20come%20from&f=false
Most of the time, i use a nut / bolt. Seldom, i use the 3-wire method (and hate them). These ovee gages look good, but to find a metric set for a low price will be difficult, i guess.
Hi We used a closely guarded set of either metric or imperial gauges that look like feeler gauges with a sawtooth of different pitches and i didn't see any of that type in your video.Cheers for now
there are times when you do not have access to either end of the piece while turning. it is rare but it does happen. otherwise in most cases the OVEE gauge is a great time saver.
Neat Idea, not sure how long it would last if it was used a lot though. I just broke down and bought Mitutoyo thread mics from 0-6" anything bigger gets the wires.
A question regarding go/no go gauges, if you have a "go", why the need for a "no-go". It seems to me you would need a "no-go" for every variable that could affect the work.
The height of ingenuity and manufacturing prowess once accomplished in American Industry. Sadly now part of the bygone era which I had a the misfortune to observe firsthand.
They come with a set of instructions for how to line the wires up, which wire to use with the manufacture's chart. There are a set of calculations to figure out what wire diameters can be used with which pitches, and a set of calculations to figure out what the measurement should be with the wires you choose, (without a chart). We had to learn the whole process back in '86. Never used it since...
Never seen the OV type either.. they look pretty cool and easier to use... who the heck likes using 3 wire? haha I have a complete set of 0-1" Thread mics (Scherr-Tumico), which make thread measuring a whole lot easier, especially when turning between centers.
With my tools I need not go to to measurements below 0.1 mm. Except those very rare situations when I really should. I need to buy a micrometer one day. There are some very cheap micrometers (like 7 $ delivered). What do you think about them? It seams to me I will never need nothing more accurate.
P-D wires are simple and fortunately, cheap, since part of the set usually winds up lost in the chip pan. The simplicity is offset by the manual dexterity required to use them. Not suitable for a production environment.
I've alwaysed used a set of thread pitch gauges, a standard micrometer and look up the thread in the Zeus Book. Unless I'm missing something, to me those gadgets look like solutions to a problem that doesn't exist.
Ovee gauges are still available. mercury-gauge.com/gauges/ovee-gauges.aspx www.mqs.co.uk/o-vee-wire-gauges-range-m3-1-m25-measuring-screw-threads-in-the-vertical-position-check-for-wear-on-your-plug-thread-gauges.html
Am I alone in finding that new screws / bolts and often the nuts as well, need to be chased before they will thread together reliably? It's likely that the factories which crank these things out are pushing the number of parts per tool sharpening. It's kind of a pain when you need to use a tap and a die to clean up the new threads before you can actually use the fasteners, which is kind of critical when you are doing up pipe flanges for example...
If i had a dollar fr every time i saw something simple someone invented or designed, we could go out for a fine steak dinner. If those over gages are still in production, please notify your devoted followers, in the name of Ralph N. Kelly.
mr pete is getting old for sure..anyways..,thread gauges arent hard or diffuicult to use..maybe for a teacher..which mr pete is..hes not a machinist,,,but he is a good teacher...but very limited on machining knowledge..is you have threading wires just throw a little dab of grease on them and there you go...frees up your hands..mr pete is a good teracher..but we all know if you wanna see a good and amazing machinist...abom or ther best of the best-- this old tony..is amazing..plus they dont brag all the time or talk to people like thyre dumb like this old timer
mate if you don't have anything nice to say you should keep your mouth shut. i don't see you providing any content other than the diarrhea from your mouth.
I thought I had seen every method for measuring threads but I've never even heard of the Ovee wires. That's very ingenious. At the work station we use wires and a mic free hand. It's a "learned" habit. Inspection uses go, no go gauges
I have never heard of OV gages. They look like they would get the job done with none of the hassles of the other devices. My work was one-off, so if it fit it worked and in some cases had to be made that way as the bolts and nuts were made one-off by the original craftsman. I recently retired from a 30 year career as a museum restorations and exhibits curator. I worked with both woodworking and metal working tools and I am continually amazed at how much I didn’t and still don’t know and how much I learn watching your videos and those of the other incredible machinist on You Tube. I particularly like your to-the-point style. Keep up the great work.
Many years ago I spent a summer working at the little UK factory that made those. Never seen one since.
Thanks Lyle for an interesting lesson! I had never heard of Ove thread gauges, and I agree with you that they are quite ingenious, simple to make and simple to use, a great combination. Keep up your great work.
That Ovee guage is a simple and clever idea. That's my favorite method that you showed.
Dang, I've got some of the Ovee thread gauges I got from a machinist box I bought at auction. I didn't know what they were. They are around here somewhere as I never pitch anything. Now to find them and see which ones I have. Hot damn, thanks mrpete, learned something new today. Any day you learn is a good day.
I've never seen the Ovee very nice! Used all the others sometimes on a daily basis Thanks again for the education
That Ovee gauge is obviously a better wire gauge. I just hope a nut screws on for my threads.
The last thread I cut (last night) I tapped the female part and used it to gauge the lathe cut thread. Easy and good enough for the job. I've used three wire when I needed but don't have enough hands to do it easily!
I looked the OVEE gauges on their web site. They are $117.00 - 138.00 EACH when new. Pretty nice but I don't think I will ever have a set. Thanks for showing them to us.
Just did the same thing. Ouch. You can get a set of thread wires with the plastic holder to make holding them easier for about $75 and that will measure almost any thread size. It appears that these cost about the same as a set of go-no-go plug gages and you don't even need to measure those.
I use the thread wires, or MOW, (measurement over wires) all the time at work. The easiest way to use them is to split a rubber band into 2 pieces, and poke the wires through each piece to hold them over the work piece to measure with micrometer. Works really well. Thanks for the video
I used to do Inspection many years ago in a shop that was Boeing Certified. I've never seen the Ovee Thread Gauges before. It's been a long time since I've done that type of work. I suspect Boeing would not have allowed the use of
the Ovee Thread Gauges for machined threads for the parts we made for them, but they sure look handy and appear to be quite accurate as well. I always learn something new watching your videos.
Boeing would object because the Ovee gage cannot be calibrated. The Doall type thread gages shown would be mandated.
I have made my own ones in the past, too poor to buy any, out of copper wire. Copper wire can be had in most of the sizes used in a PD set and is easy to wrap around the thread to be measured and using the PD chart for reference.
I've never seen those before, I like that tool. Thanks for sharing!
I use thread mics whenever possible, far faster and more convenient than wires, I highly recommend picking up even a import one for 0-1" at least for even a hobbyist as that is going to cover 90% of the threads most people will be cutting. Also your directly reading the pitch diameter and don't have to rely on a chart that you can lose, miss read, or make a calculation mistake with. If I have to use wires I always put some green painters tape (so you don't get sticky all over your wires!) on them taping 2 together and flagging the other one so when, not if, you drop them they are very easy to find. Also I use grease to glue them in place, always worked well for me and then you can easily use them with just 2 hands. I've never had a chance to use a OVEE gauge before but they do look like a reasonable system but my god would a full set cost a fortune!
Thanks for the great video!
still rock the high school method. all the different sized nuts. hammered into a piece of ply-wood with the thread sizes marked. works like a charm for fast identification.
Very ingenious device, I appreciate your explanation of them!
I run a bolt or nut. Those OVEE gages look to be a lot more user friendly that the 3 piece wire sets. Thanks for showing us.
I've never seen this before. Very informative!
When I worked as a machinist we only ever used thread wires to check the depth of grooves or splines.
I guess I use the hunt for a nut or bolt that fits. But, if I were using a lathe to cut threads I suppose it would be good to have a set or the Ovee gauges. As a bricklayer, we weren't needing to be that close to tolerant but when I was fiddling around in the machine shop at school, I tried to get things as close as possible. Greg
I likr the OVEE gauge to, I had never heard of them. Now we are all searching E bay madly lol.
won't find them there instead go to the web site www.ovee-usa.com/
they are not cheap!
Yes I did go for a look and you wouldnt want a big set of them.
a Shars thread mic with interchangeable points and anvils is less than 60 bucks. I think that it covers about 8 to 48 pitch. Way easier.
I bought shars up to 3" love them. Figured out SPI fits the same anvils (5mm) and bought a used 3-4" SPI. Love those mics.
Cute. I have thread wires and a selection of thread mics, but I discovered that the older Starrett thread mics aren't always accurate on modern UN threads.
Flexbar makes some nice little plastic holders for the wires.
Doing boiler work on a steam locomotive, we had to match the thread on the staybolt stock to the taps we had, which cut a bit undersized. We measured over wires.
Very interesting! I think I had a set of those (available) when I was at LePages. I can see where wear and use (mis-use) may throw off readings in an older set, but I think you could "proof" those easy enough by trying them out against one of the other types and making sure you're getting like accuracy. Carry on.
Hi mrpete,
My all time favorite is now the micrometer with the threading anvils, but I would have liked to have the Ovee instead of the threading wires before, I got really good at shearching them wires in the chip pan before understanding that keeping the pan clean was a good idea... ;)
Cheers, Pierre
Fascinating, never seen those in the UK. As fiddly as they are I will stick with my 3 wires. Many thanks for posting Mr Pete, have you ever considered doing a video on stones and stoning? Oil, wet and India diamond etc its something that I would like to learn. Many thanks, Jim
I use the thread wires all the time. I use grease to hold the two on the top my left hand to hold the one under and my right hand to hold the mike. Also I use red dykum to stain the wires in case I drop the wires so I can easily see them.
I've never seen OV gauges, but the 3 wire method I've used in the past and yes it is a struggle to hang on to the wires and try to get an accurate reading. :)
I have a set of Ovee brand thread wires. They are almost identical but have more than a few loops of wire. They look almost like a Helicoil insert but work the same as the spring type you have. They thread on and you measure over the outer diameter. I believe mine are older, before this style you are displaying here.
I've been in the machining trade now for almost 50 years & have never seen or used the OVEE gauge !! I have tried the thread V's , but they are VERY awkward !! A nut IS a good substitute for a ring gauge . And Wires are the most common . It is possible to only use ONE wire though !! (1) Mike O.D. of part & write down // ( 2) Mike over O.D. & ONE wire & write down // (3) Subtract smaller number from larger number & write down // (4) ADD step (3) & step step (2) // (5) This is equal to measurement over TWO WIRES // (6) Proceed with wire formula to acquire Pitch Diameter . This method is MUCH easier for LARGE diameter threads ie.: 2.000 & UP !!!!! Also when you have cut a thread & it looks pretty good BUT the nut or gauge won't go on , your question is how much more to cut ??? The THREAD TOLERANCE , .003 to .004 Thous. is a good start . GREAT video ,GREAT Ideas , THANK YOU Mr. Pete !!!!!
A slick way to get 3-wire effectiveness without the hassle. I've never seen those; I will have to keep an eye out for them.
EDIT: Found (and bought) a set for fine threads from 1/4 to 1". Not cheap, but not ridiculous. Now to find sets for coarse threads and for smaller threads.
EDIT2: And a set of coarse from 1/4 to 1 inch. Whoopee!
Those Ovee gauges are cute but i guess are made for 60 degree threads - ( not a lot of use for the whitworth bolts i was making at the weekend. I had to struggle with wires!) and as the thread pitch gets smaller , the wires get bigger and stiffer so there must be an upper limit to the available sizes.
I like your mechanical digital mic. I must keep an eye out for one of those :-). Thanks.
Yes you can get them for BSW. See my comment to mrpete. regards
personally being pretty new to all of this and not having all these fancy gadgets yet. I use the check it with the nut method, but that Ovee Gage looks the easiest. I would however like to have a set of wires and soon will make that a priority for my purchasing list.
Excellent video mrpete. I have a complete set of BSW O-Vee gauges up to 1" & a few odd ones over that size. I also have an almost complete set in ANF size. All are complete with the instruction sheet. I do still use them. Wish I had a metric set. Did you know there are 3 different types of O-Vee gauge.? 1-- Standard thread Gauge. 2-- Tap measurement gauges. 3-- Nominal effective gauges. All the ones I have are in the original blue card boxes marked "O-VEE Spring Gauge Ltd" Edgware, Middlesex (English county) and by the 4 digit phone number is most likely mid 1960's to late 1970's O-Vee is still a trading company to this day.Thanks for sharing. regards from the UK
Here is an early US advertisement for them.books.google.co.uk/books?id=wyUDAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA245&lpg=PA245&dq=Where+did+O-Vee+gauges+come+from&source=bl&ots=BKaVW4d05a&sig=TJDj8wlwp1UeRw7qG6yLvd_1n6M&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwji9sT9ncDTAhUMLcAKHcckCxEQ6AEIMDAC#v=onepage&q=Where%20did%20O-Vee%20gauges%20come%20from&f=false
thanks-I willput that in a vid
Mr Pete, man you collect tools!!!! I believe that one gauge was 1/2-20, looked like fine thread..
Ovee gauges are pretty neat
I have a few. and used them. A lot easier then using the wires.
Most of the time, i use a nut / bolt. Seldom, i use the 3-wire method (and hate them). These ovee gages look good, but to find a metric set for a low price will be difficult, i guess.
Thanks! I've never seen these before.
Real nice range demonstrated thank you
Hi We used a closely guarded set of either metric or imperial gauges that look like feeler gauges with a sawtooth of different pitches and i didn't see any of that type in your video.Cheers for now
I like them, need to do some shopping if their still available.
there are times when you do not have access to either end of the piece while turning. it is rare but it does happen. otherwise in most cases the OVEE gauge is a great time saver.
Wonderful MrPete! Thanx
What a great tool!
Thanks for sharing sir...
i use a thread card they have them at most hardwere stores by the nuts and bolts
Neat Idea, not sure how long it would last if it was used a lot though. I just broke down and bought Mitutoyo thread mics from 0-6" anything bigger gets the wires.
THANK YOU...for sharing.
The video is great, thank you
A question regarding go/no go gauges, if you have a "go", why the need for a "no-go". It seems to me you would need a "no-go" for every variable that could affect the work.
The old nut method good for me!
The Ovee looks to be the easiest to use. I like it the best.
Just wondering if it would work well for tap thread gauging tolerances?
Ovee gauge is cool, do they hold their shape well? You said the price was $12.00 or so,,,,,,,each one...? kinda expensive for a complete set.
The height of ingenuity and manufacturing prowess once accomplished in American Industry. Sadly now part of the bygone era which I had a the misfortune to observe firsthand.
Ovee was originally a British company...
the same can be said about the uk
maybe the modeling clay in your auction haul was for three wire measurements
I would love to learn the calculations on how to use 3 wire
They come with a set of instructions
They come with a set of instructions for how to line the wires up, which wire to use with the manufacture's chart.
There are a set of calculations to figure out what wire diameters can be used with which pitches, and a set of calculations to figure out what the measurement should be with the wires you choose, (without a chart). We had to learn the whole process back in '86. Never used it since...
Never seen the OV type either.. they look pretty cool and easier to use... who the heck likes using 3 wire? haha
I have a complete set of 0-1" Thread mics (Scherr-Tumico), which make thread measuring a whole lot easier, especially when turning between centers.
With my tools I need not go to to measurements below 0.1 mm. Except those very rare situations when I really should. I need to buy a micrometer one day. There are some very cheap micrometers (like 7 $ delivered). What do you think about them? It seams to me I will never need nothing more accurate.
I have the chart for the thread triangle if you want it.
Jeff
P-D wires are simple and fortunately, cheap, since part of the set usually winds up lost in the chip pan. The simplicity is offset by the manual dexterity required to use them. Not suitable for a production environment.
love it
wow, those are nice.. but not for a home hobbiest, unless I find them at a garage sale.
I've alwaysed used a set of thread pitch gauges, a standard micrometer and look up the thread in the Zeus Book. Unless I'm missing something, to me those gadgets look like solutions to a problem that doesn't exist.
Go to www.inspection.ie, wide range of OVEE thread wires there, just type OVEE into the search bar.
Ovee gauges are still available.
mercury-gauge.com/gauges/ovee-gauges.aspx
www.mqs.co.uk/o-vee-wire-gauges-range-m3-1-m25-measuring-screw-threads-in-the-vertical-position-check-for-wear-on-your-plug-thread-gauges.html
I use the pete wires, sometimes with play doh
"Pee-Dee" (for P-D). Not "pete".
Am I alone in finding that new screws / bolts and often the nuts as well, need to be chased before they will thread together reliably?
It's likely that the factories which crank these things out are pushing the number of parts per tool sharpening.
It's kind of a pain when you need to use a tap and a die to clean up the new threads before you can actually use the fasteners, which is kind of critical when you are doing up pipe flanges for example...
If i had a dollar fr every time i saw something simple someone invented or designed, we could go out for a fine steak dinner. If those over gages are still in production, please notify your devoted followers, in the name of Ralph N. Kelly.
TOOO COOOL !
The OVEE gauges look fantastic but for that price WAY above my league.
Nifty
At 0:33 you say it Ovee gauges might be one of the cheapest methodes, but later on you say they are expansive.....
holy smokes 138 dollars each! youd think it wouldnt cost that much
Hard for a HS kid try using Google the thread wires at 63 for the first time.
OV
Half twenty, not thirteen
mr pete is getting old for sure..anyways..,thread gauges arent hard or diffuicult to use..maybe for a teacher..which mr pete is..hes not a machinist,,,but he is a good teacher...but very limited on machining knowledge..is you have threading wires just throw a little dab of grease on them and there you go...frees up your hands..mr pete is a good teracher..but we all know if you wanna see a good and amazing machinist...abom or ther best of the best-- this old tony..is amazing..plus they dont brag all the time or talk to people like thyre dumb like this old timer
mate if you don't have anything nice to say you should keep your mouth shut. i don't see you providing any content other than the diarrhea from your mouth.
Vince Rodriguez just remember if it wasn't for old timers none of us would be here. have some respect!
Every time you open your mouth you display your ignorance.