@@blainy-o93 The GS gets a bit boring as most of the BDO reps are just there as cannon fodder for the PDC players. Hardly any get out of the group stages. Waites was an exception.
@@flaviusconstantius9702 to be honest all I watch of it these days is the UK Open and the Worlds, if there's an upset it's usually at one of those. I get fed up of the football hooligan crowds aswell, makes it unwatchable.
Pity he can't play when the crowd is chanting though 😂 Standing with your arms crossed and not playing like you want to take your ball home is not the best thing to be doing 😂
i agree in part with as a person martin is really nice guy to talk we spent ages chatting about darts we played in a local tournament but still a good player
Anyone else notice that Taylor is throwing different nowadays? Old style: dart flight up high barrel down, angled thumb, standing a little right of the middle of the oche. New style: dart more horizontal, straight thumb, standing left of the middle of the oche.
Barney has won one and three or four other majors, whitlcok got to a final and has won a major same thing for anderson as whitlock. The point is that most of the top tier BDO players would do perfectly fine in the PDC. The gap isn't that huge between the best PDC players and BDO players bar taylor and maybe soon van gerwen. A few of the BDO players who play in the grand slam do fine. I dont think adams would the way he played today though lol
Don't really understand all the slating of Adams on here, this was a good match and he more than held his own here, also he did very well in PDC tournaments and is a brilliant player in his own right, ok he is not as good as Taylor but not many players are.
Translation: you don't become England captain unless the eight English players who would be ranked above you in a unified field are all playing in the PDC.
Adams is a great player hes played the pdc and beaten there number one seeded and owned the BDO he should switch to the PDC just for one world championship to prove him self, I dont think he would win but he would make the quarters.
The Tomlin Order allowed any player from any organization to play in PDC and BDO events and opens from 1997 to 2002, hence Wolfie was in the Matchplay and World Grand Prix
both waites and o'shea are the finalist of the BDO world championship 2013.....they both participate in the PDC Grand Slam of Darts.....i think it's time they both switched to the PDC...
This year, yes I'd say, PDC so strong in scoring, sometimes laughable to tears on doubles. This year was better. But generally the old dogs know how to finish better.
The BDO is OK for learning your trade. But if you want to be taken seriously you have got to switch to the PDC. The quality of darts in the BDO is crap!
Indeed, strange... Old throw style: dart flight up high barrel down, angled thumb, standing a little right of the middle of the oche. New throw style: dart more horizontal, straight thumb, standing left of the middle of the oche.
BDO is Johnstones paint trophy,PDC is the champions league....BDO is soooo boring,the crowd just mutter amongst themselves,the quality of darts is hilarious & it's the same old faces that know they couldn't cut it in the PDC....O'Shea,Waites,Adams,Fitton....sure some great players have started on the BDO then realised their above this piss poor excuse of an organisation & moved & made some real moolah...
@@davidkicks8033 Yes because all true darts fans didn't want Eric Bristow, Bob Anderson, Jocky Wilson, Phil Taylor etc making a living from darts and wanted them banned from playing darts worldwide. And they wanted anyone who played them in an exhibition banned as well. That's what your beloved BDO tried to do. Honestly this misty eyed sentimentality towards the BDO is insane.
decent MC? youre joking right>? this is freddie william calling this match who is considered by all the best ever, followed by Bruce Spendley, then everyone else is a mile behind.
Adams never played in the PDC because he knew he would never cut it in the PDC and just wanted to keep the BDO running after the split and to be with Bobby George and Tony Green
Adams has played Taylor twice on tv. He got thrashed. He lost every game he played v Barney at Lakeside. Shat himself that his titles would be devalued if he went to the GSOD. Then all his bollocks about equalling Bristow and Anderson who won titles in unified fields and Adams was beating inexperienced players and glorified pub players. He would do fuck all in the pdc now, look at how he has done this year in the bdo, got pumped by some loser at the Masters who threw an average in the 70s.
Martin Adams won’t switch to the PDC because the BDO was going downhill after the split and wanted to keep to organization going for as long as possible
Damn the comments in this video are cringe worthy . I remember the same opinions being parroted by people towards barneveld, whitlock, anderson, webby ect ect over the years when they was in the BDO. I remember the opinions on barny from the PDC bum boys when he was in the BDO "ohhh his shit, he is scared of taylor, he will never switch, he is an ameteur and wouldn't live with the big boys" Its amazing how clueless people are about darts these days. Educate yourself about the game you fools
I remember when all those BDO "champions" like Beaton, Burnett, Klaasen, Webster, Bunting, Kist etc switched with much hype, and ended up being also rans in the PDC. Barney had a great first year in the PDC then won virtually nothing for the next decade. After 07 he lost every big final he played against Taylor.
@@flaviusconstantius9702I agree the PDC is and was a better field but saying Barney won nothing after 07 is just wrong, he won the UK open a second time, Las Vegas, the grand slam, the premier league and 4 world cups
no he just played in the PDC for one year and he did very well to be fair. always made the semi or quarter finals.
Both organisations have good and not so good players. Just most are in the pdc. End of the day its about money.
That's what makes the Grand Slam so good to watch, best of the BDO vs the best of the PDC. Always a shock somewhere (maybe 2010 being the biggest).
@@blainy-o93 The GS gets a bit boring as most of the BDO reps are just there as cannon fodder for the PDC players. Hardly any get out of the group stages. Waites was an exception.
@@flaviusconstantius9702 to be honest all I watch of it these days is the UK Open and the Worlds, if there's an upset it's usually at one of those. I get fed up of the football hooligan crowds aswell, makes it unwatchable.
Thanks for posting this! Great! :- )
Adams would be more than good enough for the PDC. His averages prove that over the years.
Pity he can't play when the crowd is chanting though 😂 Standing with your arms crossed and not playing like you want to take your ball home is not the best thing to be doing 😂
@@markalexander7652 Guess you missed the 2015 Grand Slam then?
surprised Adams didnt have Hungry Like The Wolf as his entrance song
Two good players one very good
i agree in part with as a person martin is really nice guy to talk we spent ages chatting about darts we played in a local tournament but still a good player
Anyone else notice that Taylor is throwing different nowadays?
Old style: dart flight up high barrel down, angled thumb, standing a little right of the middle of the oche.
New style: dart more horizontal, straight thumb, standing left of the middle of the oche.
Tonio Antonio Yeah deffo mate, 1997-2004. Became flatter from then on.
He was also so fluent made it looked easy shame he changed it throughout the years
Fantastic! Thanks for posting!
he's in the top 25 darts players of all time, I'll give him that.
Barney has won one and three or four other majors, whitlcok got to a final and has won a major same thing for anderson as whitlock. The point is that most of the top tier BDO players would do perfectly fine in the PDC. The gap isn't that huge between the best PDC players and BDO players bar taylor and maybe soon van gerwen. A few of the BDO players who play in the grand slam do fine. I dont think adams would the way he played today though lol
Such a shame after 2001 the bdo boys couldn’t qualify for the tournaments anymore gave them a bit of spice
Don't really understand all the slating of Adams on here, this was a good match and he more than held his own here, also he did very well in PDC tournaments and is a brilliant player in his own right, ok he is not as good as Taylor but not many players are.
.How was it a good game?He got hammered ffs Flyingvman.
adams looks the same now... scary how didnt change a bit
You dont become england captain for nothing that cracked me up you know there was a slight bit of piss taking from phil when he said that
Translation: you don't become England captain unless the eight English players who would be ranked above you in a unified field are all playing in the PDC.
Adams is a great player hes played the pdc and beaten there number one seeded and owned the BDO he should switch to the PDC just for one world championship to prove him self, I dont think he would win but he would make the quarters.
Very surprised to come across Martin Adams in the PDC (Grand Slam aside).
The Tomlin Order allowed any player from any organization to play in PDC and BDO events and opens from 1997 to 2002, hence Wolfie was in the Matchplay and World Grand Prix
Wow Adams looks as though he hasn't aged a day
both waites and o'shea are the finalist of the BDO world championship 2013.....they both participate in the PDC Grand Slam of Darts.....i think it's time they both switched to the PDC...
both O’Shea and Waites would get demolished in the PDC and would never get any far in the PDC
What a match
i can see you're a true adams fan. :D
@edward papaloizou no reason to hate him, he is a really nice guy
This year, yes I'd say, PDC so strong in scoring, sometimes laughable to tears on doubles. This year was better. But generally the old dogs know how to finish better.
Hope Scott does think he'd up his game in the PDC can't see O'shea doing much though.
awesome
When did Martin start being called Wolfie?
Karatebuff -diamond dave is a legend
My record for phil is 1713-243-28,not complete but probably close.
The BDO is OK for learning your trade. But if you want to be taken seriously you have got to switch to the PDC. The quality of darts in the BDO is crap!
phil's throw is different
Indeed, strange...
Old throw style: dart flight up high barrel down, angled thumb, standing a little right of the middle of the oche.
New throw style: dart more horizontal, straight thumb, standing left of the middle of the oche.
The Jimmy savile of darts
100% fact
brilliant stuff frm the lads lol
How old was Phil then?
He was born on August 1960. This was in 2001 so he would be 40 going on 41 here.
This took place during the July of that year.
40
It's because his darts are different these days.
Diamond David Askew whatever happened to him?
probably plays pub competitions now
adams knows he would be found out in the pdc..thats why he stayed in the small pool with small fish.
Have you seen this years PDC World Championship? He would have gotten his ass kicked in the first round.
I think its about time martin packs the BDO..and move to PDC to REALLY prove himself!!!!
He never did
BDO is Johnstones paint trophy,PDC is the champions league....BDO is soooo boring,the crowd just mutter amongst themselves,the quality of darts is hilarious & it's the same old faces that know they couldn't cut it in the PDC....O'Shea,Waites,Adams,Fitton....sure some great players have started on the BDO then realised their above this piss poor excuse of an organisation & moved & made some real moolah...
You`re not a darts fan if you don`t like the BDO, bye little boy
David Kicks well put.
@@davidkicks8033 Yes because all true darts fans didn't want Eric Bristow, Bob Anderson, Jocky Wilson, Phil Taylor etc making a living from darts and wanted them banned from playing darts worldwide. And they wanted anyone who played them in an exhibition banned as well.
That's what your beloved BDO tried to do.
Honestly this misty eyed sentimentality towards the BDO is insane.
@@hamdanmohammed3509 Both Green and Norris have now lost their tour cards.
@@flaviusconstantius9702and are now PDPA Associate Members
how many PDC world tittles has Barney/Whitlock/Anderson/Webby won?
Barney: 1
Andrerson: 2
Whitlock & Webby: None
At least the walk-on's are more fluid now and we have a decent MC . It seems so old fashioned and it was only 15 years ago !!!!
decent MC? youre joking right>? this is freddie william calling this match who is considered by all the best ever, followed by Bruce Spendley, then everyone else is a mile behind.
Yeah this MC is miles better than their current one.
Some people haven't got a clue! This is when darts was exciting! This MC is one of the best to ever do it. Atmosphere is awesome.
Adams in PDC?
Previously BDO players can be invited at the World Matchplay, now just World C'ship & Grand Slam.
Before 2002 BDO players were allowed to play in PDC events (and vice versa).
@@flaviusconstantius9702also PDC players we’re allowed to play BDO/WDF events and opens at that time
@@FanBoyStudio369World Championship (for international qualifiers) and Grand Slam
Adams will never play PDC because he's a trophy hunter.
Adams never played in the PDC because he knew he would never cut it in the PDC and just wanted to keep the BDO running after the split and to be with Bobby George and Tony Green
i think he's 58, it's too late for him to prove someth
Nah
What is Adams doing at the World Matchplay? Were BDO players allowed to participate in this tournament in the past or something?
aiai52 Yes. Until 2002.
The Tomlin Order allowed darts players from the PDC and BDO to play any event they wanted until 2002
Oh dear, on any video with Adams pass the blunt disputes which did not solve anything. You all suffer shit, relax people.
Martin decent player but was never good enough to be amongst the big boys in the PDC winning the BDO doesnt really mean anything average pub players
He was probably the third best player in the world, behind Barney and Taylor,at one point
Adams has played Taylor twice on tv. He got thrashed. He lost every game he played v Barney at Lakeside. Shat himself that his titles would be devalued if he went to the GSOD. Then all his bollocks about equalling Bristow and Anderson who won titles in unified fields and Adams was beating inexperienced players and glorified pub players. He would do fuck all in the pdc now, look at how he has done this year in the bdo, got pumped by some loser at the Masters who threw an average in the 70s.
martin adams won't switch to the pdc because he dislikes barry hearn
Martin Adams won’t switch to the PDC because the BDO was going downhill after the split and wanted to keep to organization going for as long as possible
Martin Adams never joined the PDC because he wanted to be a big fish in a small pond and knew he would never stand a chance against the PDC pros.
take it you dont like adams
h2h taylor 3-2 adams.
Taylor 3-1 Adams
Damn the comments in this video are cringe worthy . I remember the same opinions being parroted by people towards barneveld, whitlock, anderson, webby ect ect over the years when they was in the BDO. I remember the opinions on barny from the PDC bum boys when he was in the BDO "ohhh his shit, he is scared of taylor, he will never switch, he is an ameteur and wouldn't live with the big boys"
Its amazing how clueless people are about darts these days. Educate yourself about the game you fools
I remember when all those BDO "champions" like Beaton, Burnett, Klaasen, Webster, Bunting, Kist etc switched with much hype, and ended up being also rans in the PDC.
Barney had a great first year in the PDC then won virtually nothing for the next decade. After 07 he lost every big final he played against Taylor.
@@flaviusconstantius9702I agree the PDC is and was a better field but saying Barney won nothing after 07 is just wrong, he won the UK open a second time, Las Vegas, the grand slam, the premier league and 4 world cups
and then got beat today by an unknown little dutch boy with a silly name lol
Michael van Gerwen
Adams has always ducked the big boys in the pdc..he would NEVER have been "world champ" if he was in the pdc
God I hate Martin Adams
Edward Papaloizou nah no way has he ever been gud enough play for the pdc
BDO the non league of darts