Including world map is inaccurate since Mercator projection 1569, Real Indonesia is huge as Russia even much larger to include Malaysia/Singapore/Brunei, The Philippines, Australia, etc before West came. Indonesia world's richest natural resources and most humid in the world causing many much older artifacts to decay faster, Egypt and anywhere outside the equator line Asia are just too dry and too cold so the artifacts survive longer but they're much younger than here in Lemuria
Call me crazy but I think of The Lord Of The Rings when my mind goes far enough back in time thinking about the Kindoms when these mega structures were at their height & pondering what else might of exsist in time & space. The possibilities are endless if you beleive in God or other life forms. I try to keep a open mind without limits on God or Life. These structures are fascinating anyway you look at them.
Thankyou Ben. I hope one day, Graham Hancock, Randall Carlson and yourself will get the recognition you all deserve. So much has been revealed the last few years it's difficult to deny an advanced culture that preceded what we know spanning the earth and all its continents.
That will never happen until they start following proper scientific procedures. I would compare Graham Hancock to a criminal investigator who relies on gut instincts and psychics over physical evidence. These people aren't qualified archaeologists. If you needed help with your sink would you ask your neighbour or call a professional plumber?
Ben, this is a great overview! Thanks for putting this together. Rather than just a tantalizing teaser, your SOP approach anchors down in the weeds and pulls the listener up, cohesively, into the layman's realm of understanding. Award winning.
Including world map is inaccurate since Mercator projection 1569, Real Indonesia is huge as Russia even much larger to include Malaysia/Singapore/Brunei, The Philippines, Australia, etc before West came. Indonesia world's richest natural resources and most humid in the world causing many much older artifacts to decay faster, Egypt and anywhere outside the equator line Asia are just too dry and too cold so the artifacts survive longer but they're much younger than here in Lemuria
Whoeveeeerrrrrr wants to know the truth about gunung Padang can watch video of kang dicky gunung Padang that saying there is 5 round sphere of energy ball metallic from outer earth. Inside 500mtr of gunung Padang mega building not mountain/!!!!!!
So glad to see this site featured more prominently, especially on a powerhouse channel like this. I look forward to seeing this site continue to slowly unveil. Thank you.
Including world map is inaccurate since Mercator projection 1569, Real Indonesia is huge as Russia even much larger to include Malaysia/Singapore/Brunei, The Philippines, Australia, etc before West came. Indonesia world's richest natural resources and most humid in the world causing many much older artifacts to decay faster, Egypt and anywhere outside the equator line Asia are just too dry and too cold so the artifacts survive longer but they're much younger than here in Lemuria
The investigation broadens with yet another fascinating presentation! The insistence on our written history being the most significant of all human history has wide-sweeping implications for our culture, ecology, and our academic systems as a whole. It is marvelously incongruous to contemplate the herds of woolly mammoths and aurochs roaming Eurasia as massive pyramids were being built across the globe. To think we are the most advanced people to have existed, is to burden ourselves with the responsibility of technological pioneers. While we can't study the philosophy of ancient peoples' use of technology, we can still be more optimistic about our own advancement. Something I often wonder, is how close we may have gotten in prehistory to having a 'space race' like that of the 20th century. Would we even be able to detect probes/satellites sent out before Biblical times? Say we do find microorganisms on Mars like those on Earth... Is it more likely that Mars and Earth were seeded from the same source, or that an unrecorded civilization sent out a dirty probe?
Geologist here on the fence. Although appearing anthropogenic, I am wanting to keep the possibility of a natural mechanism for Unit 2, e.g. could there be a sorting and horizontal stacking of columns in an earthquake prone region. The clean edge would appear to eliminate that hypothesis. Definitely warrants excavation (though I’m sure extremely difficult) to hopefully nail that question down. Anthropogenic origins of Units 3a and 3b would appear to be a stretch. I don’t dismiss the possibility of anthropogenic voids from the surface geophysical data, but such data are generally pretty wonky. Again possible anthropogenic voids warrant excavation. As in all things, DB politicians and frightened academics rule all in this domain. I like to see the bridge between geology and archaeology that this tenacious researcher has done. I don’t believe that most archaeologists recognize the profound nature of the Younger Dryas, since they simply repeat to themselves, “if there were earlier civilizations, we would have found something.” YD was an eraser on the chalkboard, eradicating all but the most difficult to remove chalk remnants.
All we can do is hope they dig and see what we find either way it would be interesting to see what’s down there from both a historic and or geological perspective
@@rodogg1610 No, the columnar rocks are natural rocks from the magma which produced the hill in the first place. That's covered in the video. He did mention *some* rounded rocks which were probably brought up the hill.
It's always a pleasure too hear from Ben, he has some of the most interesting aspects of human civilization in beautiful locations that are well worth visiting...
Nan madol is similar architecture, perhaps contemporary to gunung padang? The burial phases may have been the result of geomorphic processes (tsunamis)?
I visited in 2023, and it was virtually empty. I think l was the only foreigner to visit that day and felt truly humbled and fortunate to be there. There was a very odd thing that happened that day.
the secrecy and prevention of archaeological excavation at the site already suggests it's man made and hides answers to many questions they don't want us to know, and it definitely looks like it's man made. i'm not too sure about the definition "pyramid" though - as I see it a pyramid should be symmetrical to match the geometrical description of the symbol, which sites such as gunung padang and (definitely) yonaguni monument are not. referring to them as pyramids creates a wrong type of mysticism and implications around these sites when the fact remains that we just don't know what they were.
@@steveo5295 but there should be terminological distinction to the actual geometrical pyramids found all around the world and the mystery surrounding them in particular. calling any stack-terraced building a pyramid unnecessarily obscures and demotes the term in practice meanwhile attempting to cling to the scientific mystery of the actual geometrical pyramids. which is just sensational and thus counterproductive to our cause, which is to learn the actual truth. not calling them pyramids doesn't take any mystery or buried historical value away from them. they can still be respected as man made and mysterious.
I don't disagree about the angles that's why it needs to be studied. In Egypt they have the step pyramid and the bent pyramid, a different look from the Great Pyramid. What intrigued me mostly was the granite columns used and all their angles, plus the voids. But who knows for sure until more is revealed 🤔...
This is a brilliant production yet again Ben. Thank you. I'm part Indo, so this has been a very special episode. Very keen to head over for a look now. Can't thank you enough mate 🍻🍻🍻
Including world map is inaccurate since Mercator projection 1569, Real Indonesia is huge as Russia even much larger to include Malaysia/Singapore/Brunei, The Philippines, Australia, etc before West came. Indonesia world's richest natural resources and most humid in the world causing many much older artifacts to decay faster, Egypt and anywhere outside the equator line Asia are just too dry and too cold so the artifacts survive longer but they're much younger than here in Lemuria
This is great for Indonesia but this won't be good to your Islam culture. I just hope no stupid Islam would try to stop and destroy this. Like what Islam have done to the Egypt.
I can only say how impressed I am with the amount of work/energy/effort put into the build of this monument. What a shame that attempts to explore hidden chambers that could contain priceless artifacts or information about truly ancient times have been blocked. Perhaps that exploration scares those dedicated not to the actual practice of science but fear exposure of long accepted dogma regarding our timeline. Such exploration could hardly cause significant damage to a site which is already so disturbed by eons of efforts by succeeding civilizations and nature itself. Why let it continue to degrade by erosion and time without taking advantage of this technology and this opening to learn something tryly revelatory and fascinating for the benefit of all mankind.
Its probably kinda like if a ufo were to obviously crash somewhere, authorities would push everyone away and hog all of the examination for themselves. If something big were to be there, they want it for themselves, or whomever they aprove of.
One interesting aspect of Gunung Padang is its name, which in Sundanese and Javanese, two languages commonly used on the island of Java, translates to "bright mountain" or "mountain of light" (gunung = mountain, padhang = bright, light). Although until now there has been no in-depth study of this, the name might be connected to the site's importance for the people in the area. Additionally, it's worth noting that in Malay, the lingua franca of Nusantara (the Malay/Indonesian archipelago), the word "padang" means "field," while "gunung" holds the same meaning in Malay, Sundanese and Javanese.
@@rayj1699 Many cultures and religions seem to share a common belief in the sanctity of certain elevated landforms, often attributing special significance to the peaks as they are thought to be in close proximity to divine realms. Plausible that these cultures may have influenced and inspired one another over time.
As there are no writings at the site, the given name is modern assigned by those who discovered the site and not by the builders of the structure which was crested over 1,000's of years per core testing, etc. by the 2011-2015 Hilman research team.
Schermer was initially quite skeptical but his position evolved due to a preponderance of the evidence. he now asserts a different story concerning the neolithic revolution and the age of complex human cultures. this is admirable. no one should be easily swayed but instead remain prudent, lest we blow with whatever wind happens at the time
You can also read paper by Prof Ali Akbar, although he concluded that this site dated 14,000 years ago. Still his paper concluded that this site even older than Gobleki Tepe.
Wonderful work done here - both the research done by Hilman and your presentation. This site has intrigued me and I hope commonsense prevails and further archaeological exploration is done soon. I too am encouraged by the more receptive minds of students so we can continue to hope they take up this project.
Really interesting video Ben, This brings back memories of my first visit to Java where I did visit Candi Sukuh and of course the mega pyramid of Borobudur.
Considering that this site is atleast 27,000 years old is incredible. That means that Humanity has had to have thousands of years before hand to exist to create society and civilization. It doesn't make sense to me that modern humans have been around hundreds of thousands of years (some say millions) and only within the last 10,000 years we've just now had the ability to create society
Great work so far! However, not a single word about orientation, which I think is a missed opportunity. It's all about Gunung Pandang's orientation, which is to POLE IV/V . We are talking about the ORIGINAL foundations, and not about what has been built later on top. Gunung Padang's most probable original age? Between 240ky and 350ky, probability close to 100%.
I never understand why they don’t use 3d sonar scans when they find voids underground in bore holes. They are not very expensive and the hole is there all they need to do is drop down the 3d scanner.
So happy to see Praveen Mohan’s name on that cosmic speaker list! If anything my hope the last few years is just for someone like Ben, Hancock, Carlson, or the Snake Bros to simply meet with and share info with Mohan because there is so much connections I believe can be made by integrating the ancient histories of Southeast Asia
Remarkable indeed. We need a team of well-funded mainstream archaeologists with the explicit goal of seeking to Disprove the various claims by so-called pseudo archaeologists. Let's just see what they find.
@@Bitchslapper316 So have they excavated and investigated Gunung Padang then? Where is there research? We want archaeologists who actually investigate sites in contention and publish verifiable proof. Not those who call anyone who does this research a right winger and then work to get all access to the site blocked. No wonder they can't make TH-cam videos or go on Joe Rogan as they know they will get called out.
Mainstream archaeologists did do that and it was found that the carbon dating techniques used in this research were faulty and as a result Danny Hillman Natawidjaja's article was retracted. "This error, which was not identified during peer review, is that the radiocarbon dating was applied to soil samples that were not associated with any artifacts or features that could be reliably interpreted as anthropogenic or 'man-made.'"
lol… it’s “naturally occurring”, but we’re still going to handicap you from excavating and finding out for sure. Does it hurt being so unbelievably naive?
Including world map is inaccurate since Mercator projection 1569, Real Indonesia is huge as Russia even much larger to include Malaysia/Singapore/Brunei, The Philippines, Australia, etc before West came. Indonesia world's richest natural resources and most humid in the world causing many much older artifacts to decay faster, Egypt and anywhere outside the equator line Asia are just too dry and too cold so the artifacts survive longer but they're much younger than here in Lemuria
I would trust the Carbon dating more if he conducted comparable test around what he claims the structure to be, a number without context is meaningless. That the dating for the deeper soil is older would make sense wither way, a set of control tests are needed. The claim is bigger then the science for this site.
Agreed. The use of the term "mortar" at 14:45 is misleading, the photo is clearly labelled as "matrices", giving it a totally different meaning. The orientation of the columns and the matrix is more suggestive of mass movement than man made.
Again, a phenomenal video. Your work is highly enjoyable to watch. Your information is great and you share it in a very sober tone. Thank you, Ben! Your intro music always get me excited
Greetings, Appreciate the clear conise, well evidenced and presented info, non biased for me, just informative and enlighting. Good luck for the next Egypt trip, wish I could be part of it. Look forward to the uploads of that visit.
Feels just like that time a while back when heliocentrism was laughed at and derided by the experts. History might not quite repeat itself, but it very often rhymes.
The body, including the brain being a machine. Quantum mechanics. Black holes. Transposons. The list of things people ridiculed, but that turned out to be true is very long.
Love the content Ben. I'm like a kid on christmas everytime theres a new video because I'll watch it 5 times in a row lol. Keep it up buddy 🙌🙌 Edit: Almost at 500k let's go!!!
Thank you uncharted x for the content your narration and audio commentary are intellectually intriguing to say the least. I always love watching your content because you try your best to remain objective about the content you post
I LOVE THAT RANDAL CARLSON LINE!!! LOL!!! As for why Academia refuses to except what this location is, is like when the Bosnian Pyramids were found... Not a gasp of shock or BOOM in the Academic Levels but snorts and snubs of disrespect and derision.
Absolutely fantastic video Ben! I learned about Gunung Padang many, many years back, but I appreciate your tenacity with detailed information and trying to get to a much more accurate understanding. This is why I’ve been subscribed to you for the last few odd years. Great Work. One day, I’m hoping to have the time and money to go on some of these trips.
This was the most informative video, of Gunung Padang, that I have watched so far. I truly hope, excavation will be allowed to continue, without the politics, that are always associated, with finds, that make the teaching of the old paradigm, more difficult. This was really, an excellent, scientific report you presented here. Thanks for putting this together, Ben.
When they lost 32000 liters of water while drilling, does that mean they accidentally flooded one of the underground chambers? Maybe that’s what the archeologists mean when they say “it shouldn’t be done this way”
The archeologists don’t believe there’s anything there. This is standard for geological surveys but the archeologists are more concerned about the stability of the structure you can see. They don’t care about the theoretical structures below.
Ben thank you so much for all the hard work you put into this channel!! Graham Handcock first got me into ancient civilizations and I’ve been obsessed ever since!! So glad to have found your channel!! Keep up the great work
Have they ever given even one piece of physical evidence of a lost civilization? Nope, all they do is give an excuse to why they think these ancients couldn't do anything, it sad and taking credit away from the civilizations that did amazing things, do you know how sad that is? And you believe it with no evidence
I will never believe what mainstream archaeologists say again What Danny Hilman has discovered at this site is so fascinating I am disgusting that mainstream archaeologists have stop him from exploring further What are they scared of he's gonna find?? Why has mainstream got so power I hope one day Danny gets to excavate further Iv learnt so much from unchartedX Thank you
How much would it cost to fund an exploration into the oldest chamber? Also, what would the climate have been like in that area & elevation 27 thousand years ago?
they dont believe anything is down there so they wont, i remember seeing a video saying it used to be a volcano ( basically a debunk video for ancient apocalypse) and thats why there's chambers there
Yes, understanding that a Worldwide Megolithic Society built these originally, & all other Cultures just picked up the pieces, & rebuilt these Sites, is quite well known.
I'm Indonesian but I've never been to Gunung Padang even though I actually live only a few hours from the site. And while watching the video I couldn't help but to realize how ashamed I really am of the response that comes from our local archeologists as well as the authorities when it comes to such findings - it made me wonder if our ancestor's stories don't mean a thing to them. Thank you for the video, now I have to sub to your channel!
@@Vision_2 Well I just found out that they've admitted if the site is indeed man made. Never said a word about those who made an actual effort to study it by the way.
If they have drilled holes deep enough to identify underground chambers based on the drill resistance what is stopping them from dropping a camera with a light down the holes to take a look. Plumbers use snake cameras to identify blockages in sewer drains. Why can’t they use a longer version of this technology to see inaccessible areas of excavation sites to get real proof to see if a full excavation would be worth while?
I'm just working on our video on my Remote Viewing session on this target! The data that came through is amazing, and the fact that I worked this target last spring.. it's incredible evidence of the role Remote Viewing could play in helping ancient-architecture researchers, to guide their research, to help narrow down options, to help validate their hypotheses, etc.
Modern human is 800k years old. It would be very strange if humans didn't have any prior global populations. Why would we just chug along 790000 years and then suddenly start making stuff...
Even that is met with controversy in that we can't agree on that with religion and the Bible putting humanity's origins much shorter which doesn't make sense. I do think however we're making headway into understanding ourselves more or uncovering that history facts are being withheld from the governments around the world.
Also not mentioned (unless I missed it) are the many stones with a hole drilled through them. Each hole is perfectly round and the same diameter, appearing to be around 3", What were those used for? To support lodge poles or beam poles? Very intriguing.
With all the places of lava fields in the world, why do we not see basalt being created in stages?? Like building stages. Instead it seems that it's all millions of years old. With the hexagonal shapes I wonder how it relates to organic material that takes similar form. Like trees under a microscope, and other living material. Plus they petrifie? Thoughts
I'd love to see a general compilation of most buried shore sites under water. We already know the ocean levels were much lower 10,000 years ago, and this would help lock in corner pieces for a general timeline. LiDAR can scan sea floors up to 300meters. We need to do more of that. It would also explain more how people travelled back then and unlock new theories the bigger the structures we find. At this point already I think we can put the mainstream narrative of the "original" construction of the giza pyramids being only 3,000 years old to rest. I wish there was more funding for these projects. Come on Elon, get into ocean exploration. Call it SeaX with a very transparent "a" for the meme.
Thisnis super fascinating! Thank you so much for the video, because of this video my old obsession of old structures is now turned on again, I once felt hopeless because of the injustice that happened to truth seekers community, but I think there's hope for this.. Thank you, and God bless you..
Definition of a pyramid is geometric building with triangular sides meeting in a sharp point. Im not trying to be rude, and Im not saying anyone calling gunung padang a pyramid is wrong. But in my opinion it doesnt look that much like a pyramid. Hope we can get into the vold and get an exact date on the earliest culturial layer there! Great video as usual Ben, you keep dying you 😉
@@steveo5295 This could have had an East - West orientation before the 12,000 yr pole shift. Well, Hapgood suggested it was only the crust that slipped. However, The volcanic island chain of Hawaii which is over a hot magma plum is older than 12,000 yr. So maybe the shift is of the whole planet. The good news (or bad news if one isn’t prepared) is that it is soon to happen again and hopefully this time someone will take notes and photographs for posterity and future civilizations.
I've heard both sides of the argument for Gunung Padang. The argument FOR human influence has actually done the work to obtain evidence. The argument AGAINST human influence is very dismissive and lazy. I looked into why it was such a dismissive argument and found the historical society was losing money to the site. It was an argument to maintain funding.
Gunung Padang is the tip of the iceberg. SE Asia is covered with megalithic sites. I’m preparing to tour the Plain of Jars in northern Laos, then on to the Naka (Naga) caves in Thailand, all close together, then other sites further south. What interests me is that the remaining lids on the jars have animal figures identical to what can be found on islands in Indonesia. Pre Younger Dryas that area was all dry land. A continuous civilisation all the way south
Biggest enemies of uncovering ancient sites are few archaeologists who fails to acknowledge that human civilisation is older than the last known ice age. One such visionary is Zahi Hawas in Egypt.
Ben I admire your work and way so much.I hope to join you in 2025 on one of your tours.Just want to use this moment to thank you for every video and pod you have produced since I first found your channel in 2020.Cheers!
Very detailed and comprehensive footage, storyline that really understands the object of research and the problems currently being faced, & very elaborative explanations ! Keep up the good works Ben ! 👍🤠👍
@AustinKoleCarlisle shhh, what? It's true 👍 whites are curious about everything. At least most are. But I'm black as Cole so I don't give much thought about much but hos and Crack 😂
Gunung Padang is likely the center of the Eastern Province of Atlantis; the civilization founded by Ham, the son of Noah/Ziusudra who travelled to the East to rebuilt civilization after the flood. Matthew LaCroix is doing a documentary with Brien Foerster, Billy Carsen, and Paul Wallis regarding ancient civilizations between Peru and China, focusing specifically on Peru and Turkiye and the links between them. His research covers the Genesis arcs of the religions of the past, and his specialty is cuneiform and proto-cuneiform. By his studies there were 3 major civilizations made after the Flood: One to the west, one to the center/south, and one to the East, centered around Egypt (the center of the world's mass on the surface). To the west went Shem, to build a great naval civilization to ply the oceans; to the East went Ham, to recover the Denisovan bloodlines; and to build from Ararat south stayed Japeth, who created the core of the Atlantis civilization, the central governing body in Egypt. The constructions of each civilization are visible along the 30th Parallel, where the north pole sits in northern Alaska; all megalithic and precise basalt, andesite, granite, and inorganic limestone interlocked without mortar. According to the likeliest scenario based on myths and evidence, Atlantis collapsed due to internal strife; the Japeth civilization around the Mediterranean ended up fighting with the Shem civilization of the West (the naval and warlike civilization) and won, whereby shortly thereafter there was a great cataclysm. Egypt became the repository for long knowledge, and all 3 civilizations were destroyed. After the 900 years of the Younger Dryas only records and basic stoneworking technology remained; the surface of the Earth had changed completely, and new technologies were required to survive. Argiculture (evident since over 20,000 years ago) became THE mode of survival in a rapidly warming world, a world with far more water unbound in ice. Old ways and methods gave way to new as old teachings became obsolete. These statements are evidenced not only in Solon's writings but also the work of the aforementioned historians. I am excited to see where all of it goes. Thank you for your analysis' Ben!
Noah was just a rich guy who survived a flood and got written up. Lots of cultures around the world survived the myriad of great floods now well documented. The Pacific high culture is referred to as Lemuria while Atlantis reigned over the Atlantic basin.
Indonesia is a huge country and is actually the largest archipelago nation in the world. Being large and archipelagic, it is not surprising that there could be ancient kingdoms or culture that existed in different parts of the archipelago.
Thanks to Ben i have begun trying to incorporate "Bang on" into as many situations as possible. I get weird looks, but thats the price we pay being cultured gentleman.
i wonder then if there really is peer review. for an actual review you have to be unbiased and run your own experiment, tests, investigation. which will either confirm or refute or bring up further questions that need to be investigated, tested, ect. so yeah i wonder how much that has been "peer reviewed" actually is.
One of the most fascinating sites on the Earth and most ppl have no idea it even exists. Thanks Ben!
And it's not being explored because of politics.
Moreover, evolutionists would not be happy @@ebayerr
Including world map is inaccurate since Mercator projection 1569, Real Indonesia is huge as Russia even much larger to include Malaysia/Singapore/Brunei, The Philippines, Australia, etc before West came.
Indonesia world's richest natural resources and most humid in the world causing many much older artifacts to decay faster, Egypt and anywhere outside the equator line Asia are just too dry and too cold so the artifacts survive longer but they're much younger than here in Lemuria
no, its quite common site and Ban is lying to you
Call me crazy but I think of The Lord Of The Rings when my mind goes far enough back in time thinking about the Kindoms when these mega structures were at their height & pondering what else might of exsist in time & space. The possibilities are endless if you beleive in God or other life forms. I try to keep a open mind without limits on God or Life. These structures are fascinating anyway you look at them.
Thankyou Ben. I hope one day, Graham Hancock, Randall Carlson and yourself will get the recognition you all deserve. So much has been revealed the last few years it's difficult to deny an advanced culture that preceded what we know spanning the earth and all its continents.
That will never happen until they start following proper scientific procedures. I would compare Graham Hancock to a criminal investigator who relies on gut instincts and psychics over physical evidence. These people aren't qualified archaeologists. If you needed help with your sink would you ask your neighbour or call a professional plumber?
@Danjen3ify Archaeology isn't a science, it belongs to the Humanities.
@@HarryWolfdumbest statement I’ve ever read
@gepffmains9333 Unfortunately, Archaeology doesn't use the scientific method. You do know what that is, don't you?
Please keep up, chap 😁
We need all 3 on the same JRE episode.
Ben, this is a great overview! Thanks for putting this together. Rather than just a tantalizing teaser, your SOP approach anchors down in the weeds and pulls the listener up, cohesively, into the layman's realm of understanding.
Award winning.
Including world map is inaccurate since Mercator projection 1569, Real Indonesia is huge as Russia even much larger to include Malaysia/Singapore/Brunei, The Philippines, Australia, etc before West came.
Indonesia world's richest natural resources and most humid in the world causing many much older artifacts to decay faster, Egypt and anywhere outside the equator line Asia are just too dry and too cold so the artifacts survive longer but they're much younger than here in Lemuria
The consistent high quality content continues Ben. Thank you!
Yes, he’s a good egg.
@@glennllewellyn7369he's a computer tech telling you all egyptian history is wrong that's funny
Whoeveeeerrrrrr wants to know the truth about gunung Padang can watch video of kang dicky gunung Padang that saying there is 5 round sphere of energy ball metallic from outer earth. Inside 500mtr of gunung Padang mega building not mountain/!!!!!!
So glad to see this site featured more prominently, especially on a powerhouse channel like this. I look forward to seeing this site continue to slowly unveil. Thank you.
Including world map is inaccurate since Mercator projection 1569, Real Indonesia is huge as Russia even much larger to include Malaysia/Singapore/Brunei, The Philippines, Australia, etc before West came.
Indonesia world's richest natural resources and most humid in the world causing many much older artifacts to decay faster, Egypt and anywhere outside the equator line Asia are just too dry and too cold so the artifacts survive longer but they're much younger than here in Lemuria
After whole day of "spring" cleaning It's good to sit down, drink hot coffe and watch Ben's video. Thanks a lot!
Please do follow-ups as new information comes to light. I'd love to see you do an episode on the megaliths of central Sulawesi also
Well for starters, the paper was retracted by the journal editors who realized the poor science that was demonstrated.
Thanks once more for a well researched and well thought out presentation.
Superb video! Thanks for putting the time and work into making this!
The investigation broadens with yet another fascinating presentation!
The insistence on our written history being the most significant of all human history has wide-sweeping implications for our culture, ecology, and our academic systems as a whole. It is marvelously incongruous to contemplate the herds of woolly mammoths and aurochs roaming Eurasia as massive pyramids were being built across the globe.
To think we are the most advanced people to have existed, is to burden ourselves with the responsibility of technological pioneers. While we can't study the philosophy of ancient peoples' use of technology, we can still be more optimistic about our own advancement.
Something I often wonder, is how close we may have gotten in prehistory to having a 'space race' like that of the 20th century. Would we even be able to detect probes/satellites sent out before Biblical times? Say we do find microorganisms on Mars like those on Earth... Is it more likely that Mars and Earth were seeded from the same source, or that an unrecorded civilization sent out a dirty probe?
Thank you!
Love this site. Great work with the write up, and can't wait for you to get there and check it out yourself 😊
Geologist here on the fence. Although appearing anthropogenic, I am wanting to keep the possibility of a natural mechanism for Unit 2, e.g. could there be a sorting and horizontal stacking of columns in an earthquake prone region. The clean edge would appear to eliminate that hypothesis. Definitely warrants excavation (though I’m sure extremely difficult) to hopefully nail that question down. Anthropogenic origins of Units 3a and 3b would appear to be a stretch. I don’t dismiss the possibility of anthropogenic voids from the surface geophysical data, but such data are generally pretty wonky. Again possible anthropogenic voids warrant excavation.
As in all things, DB politicians and frightened academics rule all in this domain. I like to see the bridge between geology and archaeology that this tenacious researcher has done. I don’t believe that most archaeologists recognize the profound nature of the Younger Dryas, since they simply repeat to themselves, “if there were earlier civilizations, we would have found something.” YD was an eraser on the chalkboard, eradicating all but the most difficult to remove chalk remnants.
It’s my understanding that those rocks were all brought there from miles away.
All we can do is hope they dig and see what we find either way it would be interesting to see what’s down there from both a historic and or geological perspective
Bro quit smoking crack and you'll have a better understanding of this.
@@rodogg1610 No, the columnar rocks are natural rocks from the magma which produced the hill in the first place. That's covered in the video. He did mention *some* rounded rocks which were probably brought up the hill.
@@chrimonyyou’re not going to have “natural” rocks over placed rocks. That’s not a thing.
It's always a pleasure too hear from Ben, he has some of the most interesting aspects of human civilization in beautiful locations that are well worth visiting...
Great content Ben. Dont stop, the world needs you.
I really appreciate the educational perspective, thanks Ben.
Nan madol is similar architecture, perhaps contemporary to gunung padang?
The burial phases may have been the result of geomorphic processes (tsunamis)?
Wish people hungered for knowledge the way they seek out conflict when it comes to these incredible discoveries.
When I read the articles few months back, I knew this would be right up your alley. Was waiting for your take on this. 👍
I visited in 2023, and it was virtually empty. I think l was the only foreigner to visit that day and felt truly humbled and fortunate to be there. There was a very odd thing that happened that day.
Can you share?
Mystical unexplainable
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@@mitchimoonit was work day.
the secrecy and prevention of archaeological excavation at the site already suggests it's man made and hides answers to many questions they don't want us to know, and it definitely looks like it's man made.
i'm not too sure about the definition "pyramid" though - as I see it a pyramid should be symmetrical to match the geometrical description of the symbol, which sites such as gunung padang and (definitely) yonaguni monument are not. referring to them as pyramids creates a wrong type of mysticism and implications around these sites when the fact remains that we just don't know what they were.
Terracing is a form of a pyramid and if it contains man-made voids it's even more compelling...
@@steveo5295 but there should be terminological distinction to the actual geometrical pyramids found all around the world and the mystery surrounding them in particular. calling any stack-terraced building a pyramid unnecessarily obscures and demotes the term in practice meanwhile attempting to cling to the scientific mystery of the actual geometrical pyramids. which is just sensational and thus counterproductive to our cause, which is to learn the actual truth.
not calling them pyramids doesn't take any mystery or buried historical value away from them. they can still be respected as man made and mysterious.
@@Eye_Existyou make some really good points, well said.
I don't disagree about the angles that's why it needs to be studied. In Egypt they have the step pyramid and the bent pyramid, a different look from the Great Pyramid. What intrigued me mostly was the granite columns used and all their angles, plus the voids. But who knows for sure until more is revealed 🤔...
The Indonesians have a term for terraced structures such as this, it's called "punden berundak". Why not use that?
This is a brilliant production yet again Ben.
Thank you.
I'm part Indo, so this has been a very special episode. Very keen to head over for a look now.
Can't thank you enough mate
🍻🍻🍻
Including world map is inaccurate since Mercator projection 1569, Real Indonesia is huge as Russia even much larger to include Malaysia/Singapore/Brunei, The Philippines, Australia, etc before West came.
Indonesia world's richest natural resources and most humid in the world causing many much older artifacts to decay faster, Egypt and anywhere outside the equator line Asia are just too dry and too cold so the artifacts survive longer but they're much younger than here in Lemuria
This is great for Indonesia but this won't be good to your Islam culture. I just hope no stupid Islam would try to stop and destroy this. Like what Islam have done to the Egypt.
You’re one of the best content creators when it comes to ancient history and mysterious structures! Thanks Ben, 🇺🇸
He's the worst, he misunderstand everything
I can only say how impressed I am with the amount of work/energy/effort put into the build of this monument. What a shame that attempts to explore hidden chambers that could contain priceless artifacts or information about truly ancient times have been blocked. Perhaps that exploration scares those dedicated not to the actual practice of science but fear exposure of long accepted dogma regarding our timeline. Such exploration could hardly cause significant damage to a site which is already so disturbed by eons of efforts by succeeding civilizations and nature itself. Why let it continue to degrade by erosion and time without taking advantage of this technology and this opening to learn something tryly revelatory and fascinating for the benefit of all mankind.
Exactly, & funds, would be available if Indonesia would ask.
I totally agree with you!
Its probably kinda like if a ufo were to obviously crash somewhere, authorities would push everyone away and hog all of the examination for themselves. If something big were to be there, they want it for themselves, or whomever they aprove of.
One interesting aspect of Gunung Padang is its name, which in Sundanese and Javanese, two languages commonly used on the island of Java, translates to "bright mountain" or "mountain of light" (gunung = mountain, padhang = bright, light).
Although until now there has been no in-depth study of this, the name might be connected to the site's importance for the people in the area.
Additionally, it's worth noting that in Malay, the lingua franca of Nusantara (the Malay/Indonesian archipelago), the word "padang" means "field," while "gunung" holds the same meaning in Malay, Sundanese and Javanese.
Reminiscent of stories about the Giza pyramids glowing, perhaps?
@@rayj1699 Many cultures and religions seem to share a common belief in the sanctity of certain elevated landforms, often attributing special significance to the peaks as they are thought to be in close proximity to divine realms. Plausible that these cultures may have influenced and inspired one another over time.
@@hendricahyana yeah, could just be something symbolic or religious, but I remain open to plausible ideas
As there are no writings at the site, the given name is modern assigned by those who discovered the site and not by the builders of the structure which was crested over 1,000's of years per core testing, etc. by the 2011-2015 Hilman research team.
@@hendricahyanaMaybe in ancient times like TH-cam, internet social media already existed, perhaps
I've been looking forward to Ben covering this site for so long! Thanks man❤ much love from Chicago
Schermer was initially quite skeptical but his position evolved due to a preponderance of the evidence. he now asserts a different story concerning the neolithic revolution and the age of complex human cultures. this is admirable. no one should be easily swayed but instead remain prudent, lest we blow with whatever wind happens at the time
It is so sad to hear there are no other excavations / researches planned for this mysterious site 😐 By the way, great documentary as always!
You can also read paper by Prof Ali Akbar, although he concluded that this site dated 14,000 years ago. Still his paper concluded that this site even older than Gobleki Tepe.
Wonderful work done here - both the research done by Hilman and your presentation. This site has intrigued me and I hope commonsense prevails and further archaeological exploration is done soon. I too am encouraged by the more receptive minds of students so we can continue to hope they take up this project.
Tourism could help pay for the findings on this site and Indonesia's beauty would keep them coming back...
excellent point :) so long as the environment isn't allowed to suffer@@steveo5295
Commonsense isn't a thing. It's just your experiences.
when they did the bore hole, it would be good if they ran a camera down to the empty zone
It most likely isn't exactly empty, just void of stone. it's probably filled with sediment over time.
@@HoLeeFuk317oh you just dynamite that dirt right outta there
Really interesting video Ben, This brings back memories of my first visit to Java where I did visit Candi Sukuh and of course the mega pyramid of Borobudur.
Considering that this site is atleast 27,000 years old is incredible. That means that Humanity has had to have thousands of years before hand to exist to create society and civilization.
It doesn't make sense to me that modern humans have been around hundreds of thousands of years (some say millions) and only within the last 10,000 years we've just now had the ability to create society
Great work so far! However, not a single word about orientation, which I think is a missed opportunity. It's all about Gunung Pandang's orientation, which is to POLE IV/V . We are talking about the ORIGINAL foundations, and not about what has been built later on top. Gunung Padang's most probable original age? Between 240ky and 350ky, probability close to 100%.
Yes indeed!
Great videos! I've been binge watching and sharing them on FB. Greetings from the Netherlands.
I never understand why they don’t use 3d sonar scans when they find voids underground in bore holes. They are not very expensive and the hole is there all they need to do is drop down the 3d scanner.
So happy to see Praveen Mohan’s name on that cosmic speaker list! If anything my hope the last few years is just for someone like Ben, Hancock, Carlson, or the Snake Bros to simply meet with and share info with Mohan because there is so much connections I believe can be made by integrating the ancient histories of Southeast Asia
Remarkable indeed.
We need a team of well-funded mainstream archaeologists with the explicit goal of seeking to Disprove the various claims by so-called pseudo archaeologists. Let's just see what they find.
They exist and do this. They just don't make youtube videos and go on Joe Rogan.
funny how they can never manage to turn up for debate though, and call names instead@@Bitchslapper316
@@Bitchslapper316 So have they excavated and investigated Gunung Padang then? Where is there research?
We want archaeologists who actually investigate sites in contention and publish verifiable proof. Not those who call anyone who does this research a right winger and then work to get all access to the site blocked.
No wonder they can't make TH-cam videos or go on Joe Rogan as they know they will get called out.
Mainstream archaeologists did do that and it was found that the carbon dating techniques used in this research were faulty and as a result Danny Hillman Natawidjaja's article was retracted. "This error, which was not identified during peer review, is that the radiocarbon dating was applied to soil samples that were not associated with any artifacts or features that could be reliably interpreted as anthropogenic or 'man-made.'"
lol… it’s “naturally occurring”, but we’re still going to handicap you from excavating and finding out for sure.
Does it hurt being so unbelievably naive?
I appreciate your content, we need people out there in the world thinking and questioning.
Including world map is inaccurate since Mercator projection 1569, Real Indonesia is huge as Russia even much larger to include Malaysia/Singapore/Brunei, The Philippines, Australia, etc before West came.
Indonesia world's richest natural resources and most humid in the world causing many much older artifacts to decay faster, Egypt and anywhere outside the equator line Asia are just too dry and too cold so the artifacts survive longer but they're much younger than here in Lemuria
I would trust the Carbon dating more if he conducted comparable test around what he claims the structure to be, a number without context is meaningless. That the dating for the deeper soil is older would make sense wither way, a set of control tests are needed. The claim is bigger then the science for this site.
Agreed. The use of the term "mortar" at 14:45 is misleading, the photo is clearly labelled as "matrices", giving it a totally different meaning. The orientation of the columns and the matrix is more suggestive of mass movement than man made.
Again, a phenomenal video.
Your work is highly enjoyable to watch.
Your information is great and you share it in a very sober tone. Thank you, Ben!
Your intro music always get me excited
I find the music intriguing also, it's telling me time for another quest to go on and what will I learn about today...
Yayyyy, Ben - a new juicy doccie, thank you!
I love a good doccie in the morning.
Greetings,
Appreciate the clear conise, well evidenced and presented info, non biased for me, just informative and enlighting. Good luck for the next Egypt trip, wish I could be part of it. Look forward to the uploads of that visit.
Feels just like that time a while back when heliocentrism was laughed at and derided by the experts. History might not quite repeat itself, but it very often rhymes.
The body, including the brain being a machine. Quantum mechanics. Black holes. Transposons. The list of things people ridiculed, but that turned out to be true is very long.
History daily laughs with glee
While we cling to clues too wee.
It's long been known that humans have been around much longer than now assumed. Rachel Welch proved it with her appearance 1,000,000 years BC.
Love the content Ben. I'm like a kid on christmas everytime theres a new video because I'll watch it 5 times in a row lol. Keep it up buddy 🙌🙌
Edit: Almost at 500k let's go!!!
Thank you uncharted x for the content your narration and audio commentary are intellectually intriguing to say the least. I always love watching your content because you try your best to remain objective about the content you post
I LOVE THAT RANDAL CARLSON LINE!!! LOL!!!
As for why Academia refuses to except what this location is, is like when the Bosnian Pyramids were found... Not a gasp of shock or BOOM in the Academic Levels but snorts and snubs of disrespect and derision.
Absolutely fantastic video Ben! I learned about Gunung Padang many, many years back, but I appreciate your tenacity with detailed information and trying to get to a much more accurate understanding. This is why I’ve been subscribed to you for the last few odd years. Great Work. One day, I’m hoping to have the time and money to go on some of these trips.
Always interesting, thank you.
This was the most informative video, of Gunung Padang, that I have watched so far. I truly hope, excavation will be allowed to continue, without the politics, that are always associated, with finds, that make the teaching of the old paradigm, more difficult. This was really, an excellent, scientific report you presented here. Thanks for putting this together, Ben.
The excavation is political. Hilman Natawidjaja and Akbar were "given" the site by the former president.
What can we do to ensure this site gets the attention it deserves?
Amazing it survived the Toba and Krakatoa super volcano eruptions!
Thanks for your time and dedication!
Exactly, the Toba eruption prove how ancient this site and Indonesia as region. Then why mainstream archaeologist try to hide it.
When they lost 32000 liters of water while drilling, does that mean they accidentally flooded one of the underground chambers? Maybe that’s what the archeologists mean when they say “it shouldn’t be done this way”
The archeologists don’t believe there’s anything there. This is standard for geological surveys but the archeologists are more concerned about the stability of the structure you can see. They don’t care about the theoretical structures below.
Ben thank you so much for all the hard work you put into this channel!! Graham Handcock first got me into ancient civilizations and I’ve been obsessed ever since!! So glad to have found your channel!! Keep up the great work
Have they ever given even one piece of physical evidence of a lost civilization? Nope, all they do is give an excuse to why they think these ancients couldn't do anything, it sad and taking credit away from the civilizations that did amazing things, do you know how sad that is? And you believe it with no evidence
I will never believe what mainstream archaeologists say again
What Danny Hilman has discovered at this site is so fascinating
I am disgusting that mainstream archaeologists have stop him from exploring further
What are they scared of he's gonna find??
Why has mainstream got so power
I hope one day Danny gets to excavate further
Iv learnt so much from unchartedX
Thank you
How much would it cost to fund an exploration into the oldest chamber?
Also, what would the climate have been like in that area & elevation 27 thousand years ago?
they dont believe anything is down there so they wont, i remember seeing a video saying it used to be a volcano ( basically a debunk video for ancient apocalypse) and thats why there's chambers there
Get back to doing more of this style of video. Brilliant!!
8:23 Funny enough Nan Madol was the first ancient site that came to mind when I began watching the video.
Yes, understanding that a Worldwide Megolithic Society built these originally, & all other Cultures just picked up the pieces, & rebuilt these Sites, is quite well known.
I'm Indonesian but I've never been to Gunung Padang even though I actually live only a few hours from the site. And while watching the video I couldn't help but to realize how ashamed I really am of the response that comes from our local archeologists as well as the authorities when it comes to such findings - it made me wonder if our ancestor's stories don't mean a thing to them. Thank you for the video, now I have to sub to your channel!
What do you think about the archaeologists who have previously studied the site?
@@Vision_2 Well I just found out that they've admitted if the site is indeed man made. Never said a word about those who made an actual effort to study it by the way.
If they have drilled holes deep enough to identify underground chambers based on the drill resistance what is stopping them from dropping a camera with a light down the holes to take a look. Plumbers use snake cameras to identify blockages in sewer drains. Why can’t they use a longer version of this technology to see inaccessible areas of excavation sites to get real proof to see if a full excavation would be worth while?
I'm just working on our video on my Remote Viewing session on this target! The data that came through is amazing, and the fact that I worked this target last spring.. it's incredible evidence of the role Remote Viewing could play in helping ancient-architecture researchers, to guide their research, to help narrow down options, to help validate their hypotheses, etc.
Modern human is 800k years old. It would be very strange if humans didn't have any prior global populations. Why would we just chug along 790000 years and then suddenly start making stuff...
We know that We dont know shit
Even that is met with controversy in that we can't agree on that with religion and the Bible putting humanity's origins much shorter which doesn't make sense. I do think however we're making headway into understanding ourselves more or uncovering that history facts are being withheld from the governments around the world.
Also not mentioned (unless I missed it) are the many stones with a hole drilled through them. Each hole is perfectly round and the same diameter, appearing to be around 3", What were those used for? To support lodge poles or beam poles? Very intriguing.
An "Official Narrative" is like the Titanic. Its course is not easily changed. . .and then it hits an iceberg and look what happens.
I love you egyptian search but love your connection with stuff outside of egypt
With all the places of lava fields in the world, why do we not see basalt being created in stages?? Like building stages. Instead it seems that it's all millions of years old. With the hexagonal shapes I wonder how it relates to organic material that takes similar form. Like trees under a microscope, and other living material. Plus they petrifie? Thoughts
I have been eagerly anticipating your analysis on this site. Thank you, Ben!
💪💪💪 thank you ben 🤙
Congratulations for great work!
I'd love to see a general compilation of most buried shore sites under water.
We already know the ocean levels were much lower 10,000 years ago,
and this would help lock in corner pieces for a general timeline.
LiDAR can scan sea floors up to 300meters. We need to do more of that.
It would also explain more how people travelled back then and unlock new theories the bigger the structures we find.
At this point already I think we can put the mainstream narrative of the
"original" construction of the giza pyramids being only 3,000 years old to rest.
I wish there was more funding for these projects. Come on Elon, get into ocean exploration.
Call it SeaX with a very transparent "a" for the meme.
Thisnis super fascinating! Thank you so much for the video, because of this video my old obsession of old structures is now turned on again, I once felt hopeless because of the injustice that happened to truth seekers community, but I think there's hope for this.. Thank you, and God bless you..
Why doesn't anyone survey the surrounding bottom for an entrance ? It's obvious there is one.
The team has done a full survey of the surroundings, they found no such entrance.
Definition of a pyramid is geometric building with triangular sides meeting in a sharp point. Im not trying to be rude, and Im not saying anyone calling gunung padang a pyramid is wrong. But in my opinion it doesnt look that much like a pyramid. Hope we can get into the vold and get an exact date on the earliest culturial layer there! Great video as usual Ben, you keep dying you 😉
Excellent
Nice work Ben.
Mr hillman working on a hill
You can't write this.
One of my customers was called Mr nailer and made wooden pallets lol
Great work 👏
Always excited to be alive for another UnchartedX video!
This could have had an East - West orientation before the 12,000 yr pole shift.
An interesting subject, but was it a pole shift or a axis shift..?
@@steveo5295 This could have had an East - West orientation before the 12,000 yr pole shift.
Well, Hapgood suggested it was only the crust that slipped. However, The volcanic island chain of Hawaii which is over a hot magma plum is older than 12,000 yr. So maybe the shift is of the whole planet. The good news (or bad news if one isn’t prepared) is that it is soon to happen again and hopefully this time someone will take notes and photographs for posterity and future civilizations.
Always look forward to your videos Ben! Great as always 👌
I've heard both sides of the argument for Gunung Padang. The argument FOR human influence has actually done the work to obtain evidence. The argument AGAINST human influence is very dismissive and lazy. I looked into why it was such a dismissive argument and found the historical society was losing money to the site. It was an argument to maintain funding.
The argument AGAINST pointed out the weakness of the conclusions.
Waited for someone to discuss this site in full lenght, with the newest evidence gathered! Who could it done better than good old ben 🤝
Gunung Padang is the tip of the iceberg. SE Asia is covered with megalithic sites. I’m preparing to tour the Plain of Jars in northern Laos, then on to the Naka (Naga) caves in Thailand, all close together, then other sites further south. What interests me is that the remaining lids on the jars have animal figures identical to what can be found on islands in Indonesia. Pre Younger Dryas that area was all dry land. A continuous civilisation all the way south
there is a large megalith sites in bada plain in the island of sulawesi. indonesia.
Yes, and they are identical to those at the Plain of Jars in northern Laos, probably going back to when Sundaland was above water
Biggest enemies of uncovering ancient sites are few archaeologists who fails to acknowledge that human civilisation is older than the last known ice age. One such visionary is Zahi Hawas in Egypt.
Astonishing how in the academic communities, jealousy and gatekeeping invariably overwhelm any kind of curiosity.
Ben I admire your work and way so much.I hope to join you in 2025 on one of your tours.Just want to use this moment to thank you for every video and pod you have produced since I first found your channel in 2020.Cheers!
Yes, the wheels of archaeology grind slowly or as the saying goes one funeral at a time.
Very detailed and comprehensive footage, storyline that really understands the object of research and the problems currently being faced, & very elaborative explanations !
Keep up the good works Ben ! 👍🤠👍
It’s a shame that most science has become theology
Yes! Dogmatic, narrow and blinkered!
Top work Ben, keep it up mate, thank you
You are aware that the article has been retracted, aren't you?
Thanks Ben such a interesting site another one to go and check out it is a shame no more Archaeological work will be going on any time soon .
Made with pounding stones!
Thanks for yet another awesome video! Love from Sweden.
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Yes because of intelligence
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We care that's why 🎉
Gunung Padang is likely the center of the Eastern Province of Atlantis; the civilization founded by Ham, the son of Noah/Ziusudra who travelled to the East to rebuilt civilization after the flood. Matthew LaCroix is doing a documentary with Brien Foerster, Billy Carsen, and Paul Wallis regarding ancient civilizations between Peru and China, focusing specifically on Peru and Turkiye and the links between them.
His research covers the Genesis arcs of the religions of the past, and his specialty is cuneiform and proto-cuneiform. By his studies there were 3 major civilizations made after the Flood: One to the west, one to the center/south, and one to the East, centered around Egypt (the center of the world's mass on the surface). To the west went Shem, to build a great naval civilization to ply the oceans; to the East went Ham, to recover the Denisovan bloodlines; and to build from Ararat south stayed Japeth, who created the core of the Atlantis civilization, the central governing body in Egypt. The constructions of each civilization are visible along the 30th Parallel, where the north pole sits in northern Alaska; all megalithic and precise basalt, andesite, granite, and inorganic limestone interlocked without mortar.
According to the likeliest scenario based on myths and evidence, Atlantis collapsed due to internal strife; the Japeth civilization around the Mediterranean ended up fighting with the Shem civilization of the West (the naval and warlike civilization) and won, whereby shortly thereafter there was a great cataclysm. Egypt became the repository for long knowledge, and all 3 civilizations were destroyed. After the 900 years of the Younger Dryas only records and basic stoneworking technology remained; the surface of the Earth had changed completely, and new technologies were required to survive. Argiculture (evident since over 20,000 years ago) became THE mode of survival in a rapidly warming world, a world with far more water unbound in ice. Old ways and methods gave way to new as old teachings became obsolete.
These statements are evidenced not only in Solon's writings but also the work of the aforementioned historians. I am excited to see where all of it goes.
Thank you for your analysis' Ben!
Noah was just a rich guy who survived a flood and got written up. Lots of cultures around the world survived the myriad of great floods now well documented. The Pacific high culture is referred to as Lemuria while Atlantis reigned over the Atlantic basin.
Indonesia is a huge country and is actually the largest archipelago nation in the world. Being large and archipelagic, it is not surprising that there could be ancient kingdoms or culture that existed in different parts of the archipelago.
For some reason, I bet Dibble has been quadruple jabbed and boosted.
Thanks to Ben i have begun trying to incorporate "Bang on" into as many situations as possible. I get weird looks, but thats the price we pay being cultured gentleman.
i wonder then if there really is peer review. for an actual review you have to be unbiased and run your own experiment, tests, investigation. which will either confirm or refute or bring up further questions that need to be investigated, tested, ect. so yeah i wonder how much that has been "peer reviewed" actually is.
Thank you. In line with my thinking. Cheers and stay well.