As a lifelong Canucks fan, I love Hughes. We've had some decent defensemen but he's on another level. My only fear is one day he'll run off to Jersey to play with his brothers.
Hughes went lower because of size. I think what we can prove is that size, while helpful, doesn’t guarantee success or failure in the NHL. Small guys can fail, big guys can fail. And unless you’re picked 1st or 2nd in a great draft, you’re probably at least a year or 2 out from playing in the league. In that time, a lot can change with 17 and 18 year olds. They can either grow into stars or stagnate. Quinn became one of the 3 best Defensemen in the NHL. I like Dahlin a lot, but Hughes has overcome his size challenges and I’d pick him in a redraft before Rasmus. It would be hard not to pick him 1st overall in hindsight, 3rd at the lowest.
@@Effigyy That's because size is very important in hockey, football, and basketball. The only major sport in NA that size doesn't matter too much is baseball.
Darling, Svec, Brady.....were all solid picks. KK, Hoyton , Zadina....are all questionable in hindsight. Hughes should have definitely gone to one of those teams. Montreal blew it BIG TIME!!
@@kevinkirk7570 the draft is tough, you just never know how players will turn out. Montreal did the right thing by letting Jesperi walk after the offer sheet.
Buffalo did just fine by drafting Dahlin. It's almost everything else that hasn't worked out for the Sabres. The Habs have made some pretty different choices in the draft, but it's sometimes hard to figure out how much of the problem is drafting and how much of it is bad development of prospects by Montreal. Hughes' size is a hard thing for GMs to overlook, no matter how much hopping up and down the scouts do at the draft table. In the history of the Canucks franchise they have never had a defenceman that was even remotely close to what Hughes is and he's not finished developing.
@@beastmtl nope. Quinn did very well in the playoffs. He'll get even better. He's better defensively than Dahlin too. Better than him in every way that matters.
I think also of the Sens’ having done well via having drafted Brady Tkachuk and Tim Stützle but very much, following their respective draft years, no playoff appearance just yet. I have to wonder if this coming season will see any combo of either forward and Dahlin wanting off his NHL Draft team, with Jack Eichel, who the Sabres had drafted 2nd in 2015, having already won a Stanley Cup with the Golden Knights’ team to which those Sabres would eventually trade him.
At least kotkaniemi scored some big goals in a cup final run, can't call the pick a complete failure. And now that Hutson is on the way it all worked out for everyone
^ copium. KK is downright bad and crippling the Canes with his contract. Wouldn't be surprised to see Nadeau usurp him in the lineup if he can't elevate his game this season
Watching this video I hadn’t realized the the Hughes Family was sitting 2 rows back from Zedina, with the look of “ I’ll show you “ Not taken anything away from Dalhin but Huggy is the best player in this draft!! GO CANUCKS GO!!!
Wow, that was an amazing draft. For me I would definitely think Quinn would leap frog Kotkaniemi, Zadina & likely Hayton. The other picks are very impactful to their teams. I think Zadina may be the only one that we may see leave the NHL to play in Europe. I hope I’m wrong, but he will need to find his game in San Jose! 😬
If Dahlin played on a better team he would easily be top 5 Norris every season....The guy can skate, shoot, hit, defend, score, has hands, size, and he's tough.....
yeah but hughes still skates better, defends better, has better hands. Only thing Dahlin can do is hit better. And don't forget, Hughes was lighting the league up when the canucks sucked too. So "better team" really doesn't have much to do with it.
Of course he goes #1. Dahlin is a very good D man but Quinn is better. Brady is a really really good player, but Quinn is better at what he does than Brady is at what he does. Unquestionably the best player from that draft.
Solid! Hayton, Jesperi and Zadina don’t even go top 10 anymore. Lots of middle, late round first rounders who have out performed them. Bouchard for example.
Kotkaniemi is the biggest flop in many years. Even now in a DEEEEP Carolina team he continues to slide…if he can get any lower. This was a dumbazz high pick! And thank you Carolina for STEALING him away from Montreal. He should be on his way back to a new career in Europe very soon! Someone should be fired from each team!
Hughes as a Captain in Vancouver is a JOKE.... Captains have Character....There are at least 3 players on that club that are hands down Character filled
@@TheOtherLeafFan True..... experienced, knowledgeable, calm when it is needed, honest, ability to TEACH .... yes to older..... Hopefully Management will realize before that is lost to retirement or free agency...... Leafs chose that .... SC 20....67
As a lifelong Canucks fan, I love Hughes. We've had some decent defensemen but he's on another level. My only fear is one day he'll run off to Jersey to play with his brothers.
Or maybe they come to him…
@@beyond_thebenchthat sounds way better
Lol one could only hope he comes to jersey
@@sonofspacechicken726 or his brothers come to Vancity. Van is a lot more of an attractive place than New Jersey.
I try not to think about that
Hughes went lower because of size. I think what we can prove is that size, while helpful, doesn’t guarantee success or failure in the NHL. Small guys can fail, big guys can fail. And unless you’re picked 1st or 2nd in a great draft, you’re probably at least a year or 2 out from playing in the league. In that time, a lot can change with 17 and 18 year olds. They can either grow into stars or stagnate. Quinn became one of the 3 best Defensemen in the NHL. I like Dahlin a lot, but Hughes has overcome his size challenges and I’d pick him in a redraft before Rasmus. It would be hard not to pick him 1st overall in hindsight, 3rd at the lowest.
Solid points! Can’t argue with a Norris 🏆
North American sports organizations are obsessed with big guys, they tend to overrate size over everything else
@@Effigyy That's because size is very important in hockey, football, and basketball. The only major sport in NA that size doesn't matter too much is baseball.
Plus Quinns skating is on another level. That kid can breaks players ankles.
Crazy how the canucks got the best active player in his draft class at #7.
Crazy indeed
we're so incredibly lucky to have hughes and the players around him. We would not be where we are today if it wasnt for jim benning
Quinns skating is on another level. That kid can breaks players ankles.
So silky
@@beyond_thebench facts
Detroit should have taken quinn hughes instead of zadina. rough for the red wings but great for Vancouver
Ya that’s a tough miss for Wings fans
Darling, Svec, Brady.....were all solid picks. KK, Hoyton , Zadina....are all questionable in hindsight. Hughes should have definitely gone to one of those teams. Montreal blew it BIG TIME!!
@@kevinkirk7570 the draft is tough, you just never know how players will turn out. Montreal did the right thing by letting Jesperi walk after the offer sheet.
@@beyond_thebenchThere is the draft lottery and then it’s actually a lottery again of sorts.
@@lenaforsgrenYep, draft position for the first 28 picks is based on the lottery.
Buffalo did just fine by drafting Dahlin. It's almost everything else that hasn't worked out for the Sabres. The Habs have made some pretty different choices in the draft, but it's sometimes hard to figure out how much of the problem is drafting and how much of it is bad development of prospects by Montreal. Hughes' size is a hard thing for GMs to overlook, no matter how much hopping up and down the scouts do at the draft table. In the history of the Canucks franchise they have never had a defenceman that was even remotely close to what Hughes is and he's not finished developing.
Idk man. If their was a redraft Quinn would go first overall and Dahlin would be second overall.
@@joeynova9896true, but Buffalo is cursed so if dahlin went to Vancouver I’m sure he’d have a Norris trophy by now
@@joeynova9896 Nope in playoff with tight space small defenceman lose value, Dahlin would be a stud in playoff so still the first.
@@beastmtl nope. Quinn did very well in the playoffs. He'll get even better. He's better defensively than Dahlin too. Better than him in every way that matters.
I think also of the Sens’ having done well via having drafted Brady Tkachuk and Tim Stützle but very much, following their respective draft years, no playoff appearance just yet. I have to wonder if this coming season will see any combo of either forward and Dahlin wanting off his NHL Draft team, with Jack Eichel, who the Sabres had drafted 2nd in 2015, having already won a Stanley Cup with the Golden Knights’ team to which those Sabres would eventually trade him.
Quinn’s IQ and edge-work is what makes him elite. He’s easily only of the best deaky players in the NHL
Elite edges!
At least kotkaniemi scored some big goals in a cup final run, can't call the pick a complete failure. And now that Hutson is on the way it all worked out for everyone
Ya he’s definitely not a failure. Great depth piece on a good roster. Has the ability to put up big games here n there.
@@beyond_thebench Imagine the Canadiens with Tkachuk though!
^ copium.
KK is downright bad and crippling the Canes with his contract. Wouldn't be surprised to see Nadeau usurp him in the lineup if he can't elevate his game this season
Watching this video I hadn’t realized the the Hughes Family was sitting 2 rows back from Zedina, with the look of “ I’ll show you “
Not taken anything away from Dalhin but Huggy is the best player in this draft!!
GO CANUCKS GO!!!
Vancouver got a great deal, he is the heart of the team.
Great pick!
Wow, that was an amazing draft. For me I would definitely think Quinn would leap frog Kotkaniemi, Zadina & likely Hayton. The other picks are very impactful to their teams. I think Zadina may be the only one that we may see leave the NHL to play in Europe. I hope I’m wrong, but he will need to find his game in San Jose! 😬
Decent draft ya! Hughes goes #1 for suuuure
If Dahlin played on a better team he would easily be top 5 Norris every season....The guy can skate, shoot, hit, defend, score, has hands, size, and he's tough.....
Agree, he’s been on some bad Buffalo teams
yeah but hughes still skates better, defends better, has better hands. Only thing Dahlin can do is hit better. And don't forget, Hughes was lighting the league up when the canucks sucked too. So "better team" really doesn't have much to do with it.
I think he IS top 5 it's just that as you said he sadly plays for a dog, of a franchise
@@mb7196 "lighting" it up, no, he didn't light up the league before this season.....
@@mikepette4422 i was being conservative not to get Canucks fans all up in arms hahaha
Brady T is best in class!
Gotta get him outta Ottawa tho
Of course he goes #1. Dahlin is a very good D man but Quinn is better. Brady is a really really good player, but Quinn is better at what he does than Brady is at what he does. Unquestionably the best player from that draft.
Well said, agree!
Redraft Quinn goes 1st then Brady, then Dhalin
Well, hind sight is 20/20 go Canucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Absolutely!
1st- Hughes
2nd- brady
3rd- dalin
4th- svechinkov
5th- hayton
6th- jesper
7th zedina
Solid! Hayton, Jesperi and Zadina don’t even go top 10 anymore. Lots of middle, late round first rounders who have out performed them. Bouchard for example.
Yeah I was just listing the top 7 and how those are in order
@@Mitchellweber_totally! Agree!
Jesper isn’t that bad. Hayton a bust
@@jonah.donohue you’d be shocked to know that both of their career highs in points in the NHL is 43…
Kotkaniemi is the biggest flop in many years. Even now in a DEEEEP Carolina team he continues to slide…if he can get any lower. This was a dumbazz high pick! And thank you Carolina for STEALING him away from Montreal. He should be on his way back to a new career in Europe very soon! Someone should be fired from each team!
I don’t think he’s the “biggest” flop in years. Hasn’t lived up to the height of his pick for sure though.
Redwings Utah and mtl Canadians could of picked up Quinn but they just shot em shelf in the foot 😂😂😂
Quinn could catch Brady Tkachuk at the top of the 2018 draft scoring list as a DEFENCEMAN. that's with Brady having an extra season's head start
Ya, feel bad for Brady in Ottawa. He’s built for playoffs.
@beyond_thebench hopefully we get to see him in the playoffs this year
@@ModernCaecae728 we won't
@@skoal91 you never know
KK , 6m , bottom six.
L hurricane
Ya not the best bang for your buck for sure.
the HABS srsly DUCK.... KK over TKACHUK :) this will HAUNT MTL for decades
It hurts for sure!
Poor Zadina
He’s still got a chance to prove himself!
zadina is out of the league now.. Sept 3 2024
Yep off to Switzerland! Hope he does well there!
you lost the game
Hughes as a Captain in Vancouver is a JOKE.... Captains have Character....There are at least 3 players on that club that are hands down Character filled
lol
Who do you think should’ve been captain? I think Hughes was a good choice
@@Firebeastplaysgames Miller hands down.... passion, courage, a natural leader
Millers kinda old
@@TheOtherLeafFan True..... experienced, knowledgeable, calm when it is needed, honest, ability to TEACH .... yes to older..... Hopefully Management will realize before that is lost to retirement or free agency...... Leafs chose that .... SC 20....67
Oh look,a leg injury, i wonder what team he was playing against... Oh Boston, Classic.......
😂
Svechikov?
Svechnikov, lil typo!