Failed Recovery - We got STUCK!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ต.ค. 2024
- We were called out on a rescue on top of Skyline Drive. An ATV got stuck. So we set out to save some lives. Unfortunately when we got there things didn't go as planned. It was bitter cold but the views were amazing.
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I realize you already have tons of comments, so take this for what it's worth. I was stuck in the snow in an almost identical situation. No shovel, no tools except for a jack, no cell coverage, didn't bother to tell anyone where I was going or when I would be back, and high centered with only my right front tire touching the ground.
Here's what worked for me (and what I thought you were doing, at one point):
1) Jack up back of the truck as high as it would go.
2) Pack as much snow as I could into the holes below the tires
3) Lower the back tires onto the newly packed snow
4) Jack up the front of the truck as high as it would go
5) Pack as much snow as I could into the holes below the tires
6) Lower the front tires onto the newly packed snow
7) Repeat 1-6 as many times as necessary to get the truck off of its belly and the weight supported by the tires, and at or slightly above the track that I drove in on.
8) Smooth the path as necessary behind the tires to reduce the possibility of hitting a bump and making a new hole
9) *Gently* drive backwards and out of danger
If you are stuck in snow, usually a heavy foot on the gas is your worst enemy. The spinning tires just create heat, which melts/softens the snow and makes it more even slippery.
Congrats for not ending up on the evening news!
The most unprepared rescue team ever. 😜love your channel!
The trick to getting out of deep snow is to not spin your wheels. Rock the vehicle back and forth, at an idle or fast idle, by repatedly shifting from 1st/Drive to Reverse. Don't hit the brake and keep the revs low and constant. Time the shifts for that moment where movement stops, then the other way. Build a cadence. Rinse and repeat. First few times you will be moving less than an inch but each time you get more and more. Eventually you will be able to have enough momentum to break out. Totally different technique than getting out of deep sand.
Of course, once you are stuck such that your wheels just keep spinning no matter how little gas you give it, you’re screwed.
Another idea, whose success rate depends on the kind of snow, is to build a path back to safe ground by compacting the snow between your vehicle and said safe ground with your feet. It can take a while and you still need to get yourself unstuck first.
I've used the same technique in deep soft/powder sand driving a manual Nissan Patrol. It works. It just requires patience and persistence.
Pushing your foot to the floor as demonstrated never achieves anything, except digging holes.
@George Vinson The natives in Alaska have eleventeen different words for "snow".
I know what your saying, and in deep snow if you have the clearance its better to gun it to cut trail if your not light enough to sit on the top. Especially in powder
But if you spin the wheels fast and long enough you end on frozen ground and you're good. So just gun it until you get out
I love how real you guys are. The good and the bad. Thx!
Every time you mention OWEN, you should use a quick clip of Ann Ramsey from 'Throw Mama From The Train' yelling Owen. Unless they block you, it would be a funny 'hook' for Owen.
This was really cool to watch. (Sorry, unintended pun.) That was a good idea. Practical and inventive. Good job, Hill Billy!
Good video. Lots of lessons to be learned from this “failure”. Glad you got back safely. I’ve subscribed, and am looking forward to many more adventures.
Always supporting our Utah people. Thank you guys!
Hopefully y’all will keep a shovel with y’all at all times, glad it all ended well,enjoy the video and channel stay safe
A perfect cluster funk. Glad you got out. That poor spare tire 😢
Lol. Looks like fun.
Next time,
Put the jack on the centre of the rim of the spare, then hi lift up and push over out of ruts.
The spare doesn’t sink and gets at least 4” higher.
you guys rock, your attitude and how you problem solved being stuck was great. That looked so cold. hopefully you guys warmed up fast!
Glad you guys got out ok. Like you said, “ Beginner has to start somewhere. “ that’s how you learn Not to make the same mistakes. Need more lights. Great recovery of yourself, lol🤙😎
Now that’s thinking outside the “brain” box Hillbilly! Nice technique.
Glad you all made it back safe.
Watching your and Matt’s channel either makes me remember how hot living in Vegas was or How cold it can be at different elevations.
You guys always seem so lightly dressed for the cold?
Back here in the northern Midwest we drive around with shovels, sand or cat litter for traction, extra boots, coats, blankets and food just to get to work and back.
You just never know when you or someone else will need help or need to stay warm while waiting for help to come.
Take care and stay well guys!
Good luck guys ,you’ve got an awful lot to learn in the recovery business and need a better equipped rig .
All professionals had to start as a rookie! thanks for watching
I love how this is a youtube comment. I'm sure we're all experienced recovery agents after watching Matt. XD
@@RobbyLayton Maybe. But to go out without even a shovel? With a shovel you could have used the spare as a ground anchor and winched out in 15 minutes or less, without nearly destroying a tire.
Good on you for sharing the experience though.
@@RobbyLayton last month I got my tracks for my 4 wheeler. And we've gotten twice are normal snow fall for Dec. You should look into them for your side by side. I'm going places in snow I could never imagine going with tires. Just a thought.
Even Matts Offroad doesn't always seem to well equipped, but it usually works out. Trail Mater seems to be ready for everything he could face
You always feel great once you got yourself out of a stuck situation !
Learning curve. A few ride alongs with Matt or Fab Rats is in order.
That's why Hillbilly works for you, 2 equal minds. Greetings from Belgium.
Scary situation and dealt with successfully.
Many Many years ago I got stuck in a snowbank wheelin' in my 2WD mini-truck, took 4hrs of digging ourselves out with some 7/11 Big Gulp cups.
Using the spare tire under a drive wheel is brilliant! I so wish we had thought of that when we were stuck!
I have never seen someone do what you guys did with the spare tire. If I ever get stuck like that I will use that technique. Great video keep them coming
Hillbilly had that idea and I’m super glad he did
@@RobbyLayton There are TREADS for that.
Yea even Matt learned the hard way to break out the Snowcat for snow recoveries. Lots of luck!
Geweldig om te zien hoe jullie het doen met bijna niets in de auto 🤩👍👌✊ Groetjes uit Holland 👋🏼🌹🌹
I was the one that flipped that dump truck back over. Glad every one was ok
I think what got you out was not spinning the tires and rocking it back and forth. NEVER spin the tires in snow because you always go down, not ahead! Pack the snow down where you want the tires to go and use plenty of patience! Proper winter clothing helps too! Was a fun video to watch nonetheless!
Like I commented on Matt's channel, he was lucky to pull out this SUV from a sinkhole and in it,
his "Guardian Angel" and/or his over-all 'GoOD Karma' all worked overtime to get the (not 'sketchy' but DANGEROUS) recovery done.
For these types of getting stuck w/NO TREES, ROCKS to 'snatch' from, I call it a "Stake Snatch."
Consider this :
Figure out a way to drive into the hard soil/layers some sort of a tough strong 'stake' and then connect either a portable batterypack Winch, or even a cheap manual 1-2 Ton hand crank to move/get you out of whatever predicament.
;-)
This is why I learned to always take two vehicles and some ropes when servicing towers in the winter...
Great video Robbie but I got more recovery equipment in my Mall crawler Merry Christmas
Might be time to outfit that rescue rig with sum 4 traxx boards. They also serve as shovels in a pinch. Maybe a set of tire chains and worse case lower tire pressure. Good thinking of using the spare, I resorted to floor mats once ☺️ also a good thing to bring is a 500’ spool of rope to get ya to that next tree. Another great vid would be fabricated a winch anchor or snow anchor, with you plasma or CNC it be a short vid 😉😉
TRAXX would have been great! Floor mats? Sure!
I know this is an older video, but this buggy is badass man!
Genius using the spare and the winch like that.
good rescue , I learned something myself , don't leave home without a shovel and a Snicker's chocolate bar
You guys better-become Boy Scouts for a while, BE PREPARED!!! Being overconfident will get you nearly every time. Glad you were able to work yourselves out of that one it was a tough position for sure. Thanks for taking us along on your adventure!!! J.R.
Neat trick with the winch and spare wheel, I could see the same thing might work in soft mud or sand if you had no other options.
All has been said,you made it out on your own,great adventureThumbs up
That is how I taught myself how to drive in snow... Go out and play in it! Used that same mindset to teach my kids how to drive as well. My wife, ehh not so much. Soo I drive her anywhere she needs to go HAhahahaha! Good job on the self recovery!
The lesson should be don't the the rescuer, that needs to be rescued. If you goin to out on recoveries, YOU nee to be prepared. Shelter blankets, dried food, water, maybe even a small boat anchor!. Love the videos, but be safe, BE Prepared!.
Darn cold with no cabin and heater in that deep freezer !
Using the spare tire was awesome.
Option one: We use this trick in sand and dirt should be similar to snow I have just never had to in snow. Bury the tyre in the direction you want to go and winch to it. You can make a sand or snow wall and use the tyre flat surface for resistance. A slot or hole in the wall or into the hole to pull the tyre not lift it.
Anyway it gives you longer pulls for next time :) if you cannot do that as the snow is not there then
Option 2: The other thing you can do is pull the high lift apart and ratchet tie it to one rear wheel (if you have lockers and the ground is harder) go softly and you get about 1m movement every rotation but direction control is a little vague if you try go hard well wiplash and a flying piece of steel is not a good soloution
I had two y posts one on each side of the vehicle both rear tyres and a log strapped to the bumper and under the diff once. Winching against a flat rock under the water we could not see) anyway the front hub let go but the log and y posts (Warratah for the Kiwi's and Aussies) overcame the drag and got me out to where repairs could be done.
Good thing you not only had Hillbilly but his sharp brain with you. Glad you made it out but it sure looked cold riding in that thing.
Getting stuck in the snow like that is no biggy if you have a Pull-Pal with you. I've been stuck out in the west desert of Utah a few times without a tree or rock for 20 miles and had no problem getting out and on my way. I'm in my 60's and go on solo runs in the boonies all the time, but I wouldn't ever go offroad without my ground anchor!
The other trick that would have got you out quicker would be to bury the spare tire so it's standing up, put the winch hook in the center of it, and stomp snow in around it and winch yourself out. You could even have your buddies stand on top of it , lol.
1) Don't wheel with one vehicle
2) Turns out there is a reason for wireless winches
3) Make or buy a land anchor
Good job! Kudos for posting your screw ups too, so folks can learn!
Billy is quite the asset, great team work again 😉👍
You boys got in a tight spot but you guys got it done. Good job man. Thanks for sharing your videos with us.
Sometimes you have to improvise to get out of a tight spot. Thanks for watching!
@@RobbyLayton You guys didn’t have a whole lot to work with. improvised quite wisely. Thanks again
Been there myself in the same situation up on skyline. Wish I would of had hill Billy's brain with me then lol
Off road recovery is definitely has a learning curve to it. ;)
Robbie - Whenever you stop in snow, make sure to rock it back and forth a few times before you actually stop.
Good job Hillbilly way to go and perhaps the buggy could carry a couple scoop shovels and so quick chains and a round point shovel to dig and anchor hole and use the spare to pull your selves out
7:20 Time to call Matt LOL
Robby you just can't be serious lol... Too funny!!
I love your videos of stuff you do in the shop you guys do great work and you can tell you love your paint and body work please don't take this wrong I'd rather continue watching that kind of videos from you not the off road recovery keep up the good work looking forward to more of your videos
From Fairbanks, Alaska USA
Yo, guys, where is your winter clothes, gloves facemasks and boots? You might not have the -60 something temperature's we had last week, but cold is cold and I see some cold rescuers! Burrr!
Especially in that wide open vehicle and the wind chill going home! (What maybe -20 to -30 wind-chill?) I hope none of you get sick.
Glad you got yourself unstuck you may want to rethink on the supplies that you keep in your Jeep for the future
Almost had to Make a call to Matt? Glad you made it out safe.
Yall should carry a couple of mobile home tie downs the auger that twist down in the ground and a bar to spin it down for times theirs not a tree handy to winch to.
Hillbilly did what I said, the spare tire. I guess I am an old hillbilly because that was my first thought. Proud of that Hillbilly for sure 😊.
Just an idea... Maybe consider making a a grab and go emergency/recovery kit with the basics so you can throw it in whatever vehicle you end up in. Small 3/8 sae & metric socket set, basic wrench set, a couple ratchet straps, tow strap or tow rope, a few soft shackles, a folding shovel and a small spade shovel with D handle, hose clamp assortment, wire terminal assortment, couple pair of 10" pliers, wire strips/crimper, etc.
To start out with just get inexpensive stuff from harbor because your bound to lose or improvise with tools you have out in the field. Coming up with a bare Bones grab and go recovery kit may make for an interesting video.
Edit- Next time you get stuck in the snow like that try stretching winch line under the axes and bury your spare tire in the snow creating a snow anchor. A log chain buried in a loop works better but it didn't appear that you had a chain on you.
I don't get to go off road anymore, but I always had my Pul Pal when I did. Not sure if they even make them anymore. Glad y'all got out, sure looked cold.
Great video! Glad it was not worse! Stay safe and best wishes!
Thank you
That’s a cool area down there off skyline. I’ve gone deer hunting and camping down there with my pops since I was a kid. It’s a cold SOB when it starts getting this late in the fall.
Yes very cold
I dont care if you got stuck, your truck is wicked. Awesome
Best way to figure out what you need next time is to have things go sideways THIS time. Not ideal when on an actual call, but you shenanigan'd it out, and got back home. Snow is a nasty beast once it grabs you. Your instinct (as seen) is to go for the loud pedal, and that almost inevitably leaves you equally stuck, if not worse off. Best snow driving advice I was ever given was air down L-O-W, and drive like you don't want the snow to even know you are there. Also, just assume and be prepared to do a lot of digging if you are the only vehicle, and have limited winching options (which is a good assumption to go out with on any ride anyhow). Smartest decision of the day was to go with extra hands (legs, and backs), and not Lone Ranger it. A good set of tire chains are absolute gold too, but go for the style used on log skidders rather than on-the-road types you see used on transport trucks, and such. There is quite a difference. Cheers from Canada!
OMG! That was close… the spare wheel was a very good move.
we learn way more from our failure than we do from our successes.
All that we know is what does NOT work. Re think,hill billy.
New subscriber. Came here from Matt’s and Paul’s channels. How do you have time for recoveries with all the paint and body work you have going on? By the way, the music at the intro is much too loud. Video would be better without it.
You should carry a land anchor. They are pretty iffy in terms of effectiveness BUT if you got nothing else, they can help you winch out if your vehicle can help itself.
Yes, that was a lot of job there! Good that you made it!
You're not stuck if you can figure a way to get out.
You might want to invest in a set of tire chains if you are going to go play in the snow.
Good job 👍👍
Thats some interesting use of a spare tire 😂 man do I hate getting buried in snow.
Glad You got out,good job.
Hi Robby nice one ;). I would like to see you and your team buidling a rig for recoverys even if you are not doing many still is nice to have it also I would like to see the Robby Layton Nation trade mark on that build (maybe add some of Robby finesse which others do not really have )
You might be in luck! We want to do exactly that
So glad you guys came out of your problem everybody get stuck sometimes
I keep trying to tell Matt he should keep a boat anchor with him so he can us it to winch out. I saw where Rori had a big anchor but you will not need one the big. Let me know if you try it and if it works. Thanks keep up the good work.
Never give up great job yall and a wise man said once that he didn't fail 9,999 times to get it right he found out 9,999 ways it didn't work out💪👊😎
I love Hillbilly man!! You guys makes a dream team for real!!
I love wheeling in the snow, but my number one rule is to remember nature is stronger than me and shit happens will happen. I always take shovels, straps, blankets, food, water and attitude. This time the need for you to get out won, next time be prepared. I would hate to see your last video!!
Great adventure! Thanks for sharing!
Wow glad to see you guys got out ok. That could of got bad.
I take a couple buckets too. Haul sand or more snow to pack in my ruts to get out.
It wasn’t a failure it was a learning experience
Hillbilly is running a good second to big dinner 😂😂
Watch out Hillbilly can start his own biz / channel and take the recovery show to top of the world ! - hmmmm
Great adventure! It's not a failure if everyone got out alive and it made great video.
No one got frostbite.
Somebody’s getting a shovel for their birthday. Lol
Happy everyone made it home safe. But one question why wait till end of video to go in the shop with heat 😂😂😂😂
yes the spare under the jack has saved me many times land anchor just bounces off the ground but a copple horse shoe steel stakes drove into frozen ground 2ft apart leave 1ft out off the ground tieing the top of close est one to the bottom of the 2nt hook as low as you can on first one i use to use cut off torsion bars with a loop welded near the top to pull back out with winch old time wrecker trick
I'm new to the Robby Layton channel. It seems Robby is another Recovery person who does not carry a full complement of Recovery Gear.
I believe if I were going offroad where there are no trees I would invest in a land anchor so I always have a place to attach my winch, especially if you have to rescue myself. Also, exhaust air bag jacks are handy, inexpensive, and compact.
Oh and there should be a fold up shovel under the seats. Not sure it's still there but I'll have to check.
"City tires" 😂👍🏻👍🏻. Not quite sure what the Cummins comment was all about tho.....🤨
Big diesel trucks are heavy and tend to dig in, the torquer motors just seam to do that. If you watch Mat’s Off-Road Recovery you will lots of this !
You need a land anchor. Looks like a plow but directed to dig into ground as stress applied by a winch, works when no trees or rocks to tie off too.
ring ring.. Hello!Matt's recovery Matt's speaking. :D
Good one, 1st watch of channel ( From Matt's offroad & further work on the Banana & golden nugget ) Cool buggy ( bronco ? ) ...No snow chain's ??? although chains wouldnt totally help in that powder
Cool, nice job on the video and not breaking my buggy. Haha
If it's alright I may share this video on my web page.
We used to keep a fluke style anchor in our gear on our 4 wheelers and side by sides. They work good for areas with no trees to hook the winch to. Have used it many times to get out of snow and mud. Not sure how good they would work with a heavier vehicle.
just an old guy I use to carry a couple of broken axles cut a tip on one end you can pound them thru any thing with a sledgehammer just pound them down when done there cheep
Every ATV and 4 wheel drive vehicle needs a winch,a long metal stake and a big hammer.
At first I thought both passengers were in the front seat.😂🤣
Are you guys are rescued yourself reminded me about George Carlin bit he was a bit about some people being on speed and how they were going to save the world from the Invaders but there was nobody invading it so they invaded it up themselves and saved it from themselves good job😊
much bigger gnarlier softer tires, and more lift to clear them!! Should get Fab Rats to do a long arm setup :)